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Re: 96 GC don't start
Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is scan tools it
get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their is various cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket computer available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one...... I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting expensive. Pat -- LE CLONE 279 Notre-Dame Gatineau, Qc J8P 1K6 (819) 643-0511 SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 le-clone@bellnet.ca www.leclone.com "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06... > mic canic did pass the time by typing: > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one > > This might help. > http://members.cox.net/wilsond/cps/ > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil. > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start > in the first two to three engine revolutions. > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... ? > >> > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
That is screaming bad ground still to me!
The computer wiring harness has a main ground tag on a bolt on the rear passenger side. There are 3 or 4 small black wires there. To complete this computer ground circuit, the mesh strap from the back of the engine head to the firewall has to be is good shape. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Le CLone wrote: > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is scan tools it > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their is various > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket computer > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one...... > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting expensive. > > Pat > > -- > LE CLONE > > 279 Notre-Dame > Gatineau, Qc > J8P 1K6 > (819) 643-0511 > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > www.leclone.com > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06... > > mic canic did pass the time by typing: > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one > > > > This might help. > > http://members.cox.net/wilsond/cps/ > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil. > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start > > in the first two to three engine revolutions. > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... > ? > > >> > > > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
That is screaming bad ground still to me!
The computer wiring harness has a main ground tag on a bolt on the rear passenger side. There are 3 or 4 small black wires there. To complete this computer ground circuit, the mesh strap from the back of the engine head to the firewall has to be is good shape. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Le CLone wrote: > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is scan tools it > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their is various > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket computer > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one...... > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting expensive. > > Pat > > -- > LE CLONE > > 279 Notre-Dame > Gatineau, Qc > J8P 1K6 > (819) 643-0511 > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > www.leclone.com > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06... > > mic canic did pass the time by typing: > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one > > > > This might help. > > http://members.cox.net/wilsond/cps/ > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil. > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start > > in the first two to three engine revolutions. > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... > ? > > >> > > > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
As per the mechanic it might be a faulty ignition cable going to the ECM
that has caused the ECM to died... he his tracing the cable to find any damage. Im totally lost in this now and it will cost me a lot to fix. too bad the damm thing did not burn to the ground. "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:418B98DF.2CA10D73@sympatico.ca... > That is screaming bad ground still to me! > > The computer wiring harness has a main ground tag on a bolt on the rear > passenger side. There are 3 or 4 small black wires there. To complete > this computer ground circuit, the mesh strap from the back of the engine > head to the firewall has to be is good shape. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is scan tools it > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their is various > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket computer > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one...... > > > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting expensive. > > > > Pat > > > > -- > > LE CLONE > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > Gatineau, Qc > > J8P 1K6 > > (819) 643-0511 > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > www.leclone.com > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06... > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing: > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one > > > > > > This might help. > > > http://members.cox.net/wilsond/cps/ > > > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil. > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions. > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... > > ? > > > >> > > > > > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
As per the mechanic it might be a faulty ignition cable going to the ECM
that has caused the ECM to died... he his tracing the cable to find any damage. Im totally lost in this now and it will cost me a lot to fix. too bad the damm thing did not burn to the ground. "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:418B98DF.2CA10D73@sympatico.ca... > That is screaming bad ground still to me! > > The computer wiring harness has a main ground tag on a bolt on the rear > passenger side. There are 3 or 4 small black wires there. To complete > this computer ground circuit, the mesh strap from the back of the engine > head to the firewall has to be is good shape. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is scan tools it > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their is various > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket computer > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one...... > > > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting expensive. > > > > Pat > > > > -- > > LE CLONE > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > Gatineau, Qc > > J8P 1K6 > > (819) 643-0511 > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > www.leclone.com > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06... > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing: > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one > > > > > > This might help. > > > http://members.cox.net/wilsond/cps/ > > > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil. > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions. > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... > > ? > > > >> > > > > > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they have limited
software that interfaces with the vehicle i see it all the time with snapon even take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run Le CLone wrote: > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is scan tools it > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their is various > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket computer > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one...... > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting expensive. > > Pat > > -- > LE CLONE > > 279 Notre-Dame > Gatineau, Qc > J8P 1K6 > (819) 643-0511 > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > www.leclone.com > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06... > > mic canic did pass the time by typing: > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one > > > > This might help. > > http://members.cox.net/wilsond/cps/ > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil. > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start > > in the first two to three engine revolutions. > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... > ? > > >> > > > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they have limited
software that interfaces with the vehicle i see it all the time with snapon even take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run Le CLone wrote: > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is scan tools it > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their is various > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket computer > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one...... > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting expensive. > > Pat > > -- > LE CLONE > > 279 Notre-Dame > Gatineau, Qc > J8P 1K6 > (819) 643-0511 > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > www.leclone.com > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06... > > mic canic did pass the time by typing: > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one > > > > This might help. > > http://members.cox.net/wilsond/cps/ > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil. > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start > > in the first two to three engine revolutions. > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... > ? > > >> > > > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not start !!!!!
now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in electric..... pat -- -- LE CLONE 279 Notre-Dame Gatineau, Qc J8P 1K6 (819) 643-0511 SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 le-clone@bellnet.ca www.leclone.com "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message news:418CB96C.A135C40A@cac.net... > careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they have limited > software that interfaces with the vehicle > i see it all the time with snapon even > take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run > > Le CLone wrote: > > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is scan tools it > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their is various > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket computer > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one...... > > > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting expensive. > > > > Pat > > > > -- > > LE CLONE > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > Gatineau, Qc > > J8P 1K6 > > (819) 643-0511 > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > www.leclone.com > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06... > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing: > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one > > > > > > This might help. > > > http://members.cox.net/wilsond/cps/ > > > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil. > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions. > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... > > ? > > > >> > > > > > > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not start !!!!!
now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in electric..... pat -- -- LE CLONE 279 Notre-Dame Gatineau, Qc J8P 1K6 (819) 643-0511 SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 le-clone@bellnet.ca www.leclone.com "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message news:418CB96C.A135C40A@cac.net... > careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they have limited > software that interfaces with the vehicle > i see it all the time with snapon even > take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run > > Le CLone wrote: > > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is scan tools it > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their is various > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket computer > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one...... > > > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting expensive. > > > > Pat > > > > -- > > LE CLONE > > > > 279 Notre-Dame > > Gatineau, Qc > > J8P 1K6 > > (819) 643-0511 > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca > > www.leclone.com > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06... > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing: > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one > > > > > > This might help. > > > http://members.cox.net/wilsond/cps/ > > > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil. > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions. > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote: > > > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or spark... > > ? > > > >> > > > > > > > |
Re: 96 GC don't start
Bummer, it took two thousand dollars worth of trial and errors by
the time my Brother replaced his Crankshaft Position Sensor, for the first of three Jeeps with that same problem. Another starting position for the computer is the Camshaft position Sensor in the distributor. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Le CLone wrote: > > well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not start !!!!! > now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in > electric..... > > pat > > -- > -- > LE CLONE > > 279 Notre-Dame > Gatineau, Qc > J8P 1K6 > (819) 643-0511 > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511 |
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