'93 Grand cherokee start problem.
10-09-2005, 10:30 PM
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Re: '93 Grand cherokee start problem.
Except for those models where it is on the driver's side. You can see it
from the top but is easier accessed from the bottom
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"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Ron Croonenberg proclaimed:
>
>> The article talks about an xj, zj's (early ones) have the same problem ?
>
> Yes. And later Grands.
>>
>> (Is the tdc sensor located on front of the engine, near the crankshaft ?
>> and ... how easy is it to replace it ?)
>
>
> For the 4.0
> On the driver side at the back of the engine...at the flywheel area
> just a bit to the fender side of the cover.
>
>
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"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Ron Croonenberg proclaimed:
>
>> The article talks about an xj, zj's (early ones) have the same problem ?
>
> Yes. And later Grands.
>>
>> (Is the tdc sensor located on front of the engine, near the crankshaft ?
>> and ... how easy is it to replace it ?)
>
>
> For the 4.0
> On the driver side at the back of the engine...at the flywheel area
> just a bit to the fender side of the cover.
>
>
10-09-2005, 10:30 PM
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Re: '93 Grand cherokee start problem.
Except for those models where it is on the driver's side. You can see it
from the top but is easier accessed from the bottom
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"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Ron Croonenberg proclaimed:
>
>> The article talks about an xj, zj's (early ones) have the same problem ?
>
> Yes. And later Grands.
>>
>> (Is the tdc sensor located on front of the engine, near the crankshaft ?
>> and ... how easy is it to replace it ?)
>
>
> For the 4.0
> On the driver side at the back of the engine...at the flywheel area
> just a bit to the fender side of the cover.
>
>
from the top but is easier accessed from the bottom
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"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Ron Croonenberg proclaimed:
>
>> The article talks about an xj, zj's (early ones) have the same problem ?
>
> Yes. And later Grands.
>>
>> (Is the tdc sensor located on front of the engine, near the crankshaft ?
>> and ... how easy is it to replace it ?)
>
>
> For the 4.0
> On the driver side at the back of the engine...at the flywheel area
> just a bit to the fender side of the cover.
>
>
10-09-2005, 10:32 PM
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Re: '93 Grand cherokee start problem.
Contact cleaner. sometimes it will scrape the contacts clean just taking
it on and off a couple times but the cleaner does a better job.
Actually I meant to say the TDC sensor.
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"Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Actualy that tps sensor came to mind. it seems like the same symptom
> when I floor the accelerator pedal and try to start it.
> I disconnected all the sensors to see what happened, and of course the pcm
> is full of codes now.
> I'll clean the tps sensor connections and see what's going on (what do I
> use on the plugs ? carburator cleaner, break cleaner ?
>
> **S broke my arm by trying to plug in the garagedoor opener. *S* The
> builder contractor did something wron.
> I stood on a big plastic tote instead of a ladder, tote collapsed arm
> broke. (and then I found out that a ladder is way less expensive then
> x-rays at the hospital)
>
> I'll check the tps sensor, thanks.
>
> Ron
>
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>> Did you inspect and clean the TPS sensor connections?
>>
>> What engine?
>>
>> Why did you break your arm? That is a pretty drastic way to get a few
>> days off work.
it on and off a couple times but the cleaner does a better job.
Actually I meant to say the TDC sensor.
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"Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Actualy that tps sensor came to mind. it seems like the same symptom
> when I floor the accelerator pedal and try to start it.
> I disconnected all the sensors to see what happened, and of course the pcm
> is full of codes now.
> I'll clean the tps sensor connections and see what's going on (what do I
> use on the plugs ? carburator cleaner, break cleaner ?
>
> **S broke my arm by trying to plug in the garagedoor opener. *S* The
> builder contractor did something wron.
> I stood on a big plastic tote instead of a ladder, tote collapsed arm
> broke. (and then I found out that a ladder is way less expensive then
> x-rays at the hospital)
>
> I'll check the tps sensor, thanks.
>
> Ron
>
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>> Did you inspect and clean the TPS sensor connections?
>>
>> What engine?
>>
>> Why did you break your arm? That is a pretty drastic way to get a few
>> days off work.
10-09-2005, 10:32 PM
#24
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Re: '93 Grand cherokee start problem.
Contact cleaner. sometimes it will scrape the contacts clean just taking
it on and off a couple times but the cleaner does a better job.
Actually I meant to say the TDC sensor.
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"Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Actualy that tps sensor came to mind. it seems like the same symptom
> when I floor the accelerator pedal and try to start it.
> I disconnected all the sensors to see what happened, and of course the pcm
> is full of codes now.
> I'll clean the tps sensor connections and see what's going on (what do I
> use on the plugs ? carburator cleaner, break cleaner ?
>
> **S broke my arm by trying to plug in the garagedoor opener. *S* The
> builder contractor did something wron.
> I stood on a big plastic tote instead of a ladder, tote collapsed arm
> broke. (and then I found out that a ladder is way less expensive then
> x-rays at the hospital)
>
> I'll check the tps sensor, thanks.
>
> Ron
>
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>> Did you inspect and clean the TPS sensor connections?
>>
>> What engine?
>>
>> Why did you break your arm? That is a pretty drastic way to get a few
>> days off work.
it on and off a couple times but the cleaner does a better job.
Actually I meant to say the TDC sensor.
--
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"Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
news:dicc6i$opl$1@news.csc.depauw.edu...
> Hi,
>
> Actualy that tps sensor came to mind. it seems like the same symptom
> when I floor the accelerator pedal and try to start it.
> I disconnected all the sensors to see what happened, and of course the pcm
> is full of codes now.
> I'll clean the tps sensor connections and see what's going on (what do I
> use on the plugs ? carburator cleaner, break cleaner ?
>
> **S broke my arm by trying to plug in the garagedoor opener. *S* The
> builder contractor did something wron.
> I stood on a big plastic tote instead of a ladder, tote collapsed arm
> broke. (and then I found out that a ladder is way less expensive then
> x-rays at the hospital)
>
> I'll check the tps sensor, thanks.
>
> Ron
>
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>> Did you inspect and clean the TPS sensor connections?
>>
>> What engine?
>>
>> Why did you break your arm? That is a pretty drastic way to get a few
>> days off work.
10-09-2005, 10:32 PM
#25
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Re: '93 Grand cherokee start problem.
Contact cleaner. sometimes it will scrape the contacts clean just taking
it on and off a couple times but the cleaner does a better job.
Actually I meant to say the TDC sensor.
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"Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
news:dicc6i$opl$1@news.csc.depauw.edu...
> Hi,
>
> Actualy that tps sensor came to mind. it seems like the same symptom
> when I floor the accelerator pedal and try to start it.
> I disconnected all the sensors to see what happened, and of course the pcm
> is full of codes now.
> I'll clean the tps sensor connections and see what's going on (what do I
> use on the plugs ? carburator cleaner, break cleaner ?
>
> **S broke my arm by trying to plug in the garagedoor opener. *S* The
> builder contractor did something wron.
> I stood on a big plastic tote instead of a ladder, tote collapsed arm
> broke. (and then I found out that a ladder is way less expensive then
> x-rays at the hospital)
>
> I'll check the tps sensor, thanks.
>
> Ron
>
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>> Did you inspect and clean the TPS sensor connections?
>>
>> What engine?
>>
>> Why did you break your arm? That is a pretty drastic way to get a few
>> days off work.
it on and off a couple times but the cleaner does a better job.
Actually I meant to say the TDC sensor.
--
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"Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
news:dicc6i$opl$1@news.csc.depauw.edu...
> Hi,
>
> Actualy that tps sensor came to mind. it seems like the same symptom
> when I floor the accelerator pedal and try to start it.
> I disconnected all the sensors to see what happened, and of course the pcm
> is full of codes now.
> I'll clean the tps sensor connections and see what's going on (what do I
> use on the plugs ? carburator cleaner, break cleaner ?
>
> **S broke my arm by trying to plug in the garagedoor opener. *S* The
> builder contractor did something wron.
> I stood on a big plastic tote instead of a ladder, tote collapsed arm
> broke. (and then I found out that a ladder is way less expensive then
> x-rays at the hospital)
>
> I'll check the tps sensor, thanks.
>
> Ron
>
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>> Did you inspect and clean the TPS sensor connections?
>>
>> What engine?
>>
>> Why did you break your arm? That is a pretty drastic way to get a few
>> days off work.
10-09-2005, 11:44 PM
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Re: '93 Grand cherokee start problem.
Ah..ok...
Well..I looked. the sensor itself is on te driver side it seems (it
looks like the same thing as in the shop mnual.
However I see the wires go from the sensor, over te bell housing the the
passenger side where there is a connector that hooks it up to the harness ?
thanks,
Ron
Billy Ray wrote:
> Contact cleaner. sometimes it will scrape the contacts clean just taking
> it on and off a couple times but the cleaner does a better job.
>
> Actually I meant to say the TDC sensor.
>
>
Well..I looked. the sensor itself is on te driver side it seems (it
looks like the same thing as in the shop mnual.
However I see the wires go from the sensor, over te bell housing the the
passenger side where there is a connector that hooks it up to the harness ?
thanks,
Ron
Billy Ray wrote:
> Contact cleaner. sometimes it will scrape the contacts clean just taking
> it on and off a couple times but the cleaner does a better job.
>
> Actually I meant to say the TDC sensor.
>
>
10-09-2005, 11:44 PM
#27
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Re: '93 Grand cherokee start problem.
Ah..ok...
Well..I looked. the sensor itself is on te driver side it seems (it
looks like the same thing as in the shop mnual.
However I see the wires go from the sensor, over te bell housing the the
passenger side where there is a connector that hooks it up to the harness ?
thanks,
Ron
Billy Ray wrote:
> Contact cleaner. sometimes it will scrape the contacts clean just taking
> it on and off a couple times but the cleaner does a better job.
>
> Actually I meant to say the TDC sensor.
>
>
Well..I looked. the sensor itself is on te driver side it seems (it
looks like the same thing as in the shop mnual.
However I see the wires go from the sensor, over te bell housing the the
passenger side where there is a connector that hooks it up to the harness ?
thanks,
Ron
Billy Ray wrote:
> Contact cleaner. sometimes it will scrape the contacts clean just taking
> it on and off a couple times but the cleaner does a better job.
>
> Actually I meant to say the TDC sensor.
>
>
10-09-2005, 11:44 PM
#28
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Re: '93 Grand cherokee start problem.
Ah..ok...
Well..I looked. the sensor itself is on te driver side it seems (it
looks like the same thing as in the shop mnual.
However I see the wires go from the sensor, over te bell housing the the
passenger side where there is a connector that hooks it up to the harness ?
thanks,
Ron
Billy Ray wrote:
> Contact cleaner. sometimes it will scrape the contacts clean just taking
> it on and off a couple times but the cleaner does a better job.
>
> Actually I meant to say the TDC sensor.
>
>
Well..I looked. the sensor itself is on te driver side it seems (it
looks like the same thing as in the shop mnual.
However I see the wires go from the sensor, over te bell housing the the
passenger side where there is a connector that hooks it up to the harness ?
thanks,
Ron
Billy Ray wrote:
> Contact cleaner. sometimes it will scrape the contacts clean just taking
> it on and off a couple times but the cleaner does a better job.
>
> Actually I meant to say the TDC sensor.
>
>
10-10-2005, 01:12 AM
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Re: '93 Grand cherokee start problem.
Well.... could be. Most of the other references have it on the passenger
side and I sure gave a good look there for it.
After taking a break and looking around underneath we found it on the
driver's side and the wiring ran up to a connector on the intake manifold.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2119338336
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"Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
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> Ah..ok...
>
> Well..I looked. the sensor itself is on te driver side it seems (it looks
> like the same thing as in the shop mnual.
> However I see the wires go from the sensor, over te bell housing the the
> passenger side where there is a connector that hooks it up to the harness
> ?
>
> thanks,
>
> Ron
>
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>> Contact cleaner. sometimes it will scrape the contacts clean just
>> taking it on and off a couple times but the cleaner does a better job.
>>
>> Actually I meant to say the TDC sensor.
>>
side and I sure gave a good look there for it.
After taking a break and looking around underneath we found it on the
driver's side and the wiring ran up to a connector on the intake manifold.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2119338336
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"Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
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> Ah..ok...
>
> Well..I looked. the sensor itself is on te driver side it seems (it looks
> like the same thing as in the shop mnual.
> However I see the wires go from the sensor, over te bell housing the the
> passenger side where there is a connector that hooks it up to the harness
> ?
>
> thanks,
>
> Ron
>
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>> Contact cleaner. sometimes it will scrape the contacts clean just
>> taking it on and off a couple times but the cleaner does a better job.
>>
>> Actually I meant to say the TDC sensor.
>>
10-10-2005, 01:12 AM
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Re: '93 Grand cherokee start problem.
Well.... could be. Most of the other references have it on the passenger
side and I sure gave a good look there for it.
After taking a break and looking around underneath we found it on the
driver's side and the wiring ran up to a connector on the intake manifold.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2119338336
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"Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
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> Ah..ok...
>
> Well..I looked. the sensor itself is on te driver side it seems (it looks
> like the same thing as in the shop mnual.
> However I see the wires go from the sensor, over te bell housing the the
> passenger side where there is a connector that hooks it up to the harness
> ?
>
> thanks,
>
> Ron
>
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>> Contact cleaner. sometimes it will scrape the contacts clean just
>> taking it on and off a couple times but the cleaner does a better job.
>>
>> Actually I meant to say the TDC sensor.
>>
side and I sure gave a good look there for it.
After taking a break and looking around underneath we found it on the
driver's side and the wiring ran up to a connector on the intake manifold.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2119338336
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"Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
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> Ah..ok...
>
> Well..I looked. the sensor itself is on te driver side it seems (it looks
> like the same thing as in the shop mnual.
> However I see the wires go from the sensor, over te bell housing the the
> passenger side where there is a connector that hooks it up to the harness
> ?
>
> thanks,
>
> Ron
>
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>> Contact cleaner. sometimes it will scrape the contacts clean just
>> taking it on and off a couple times but the cleaner does a better job.
>>
>> Actually I meant to say the TDC sensor.
>>