'93 Grand cherokee start problem.
10-09-2005, 08:25 PM
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Re: '93 Grand cherokee start problem.
The article talks about an xj, zj's (early ones) have the same problem ?
(Is the tdc sensor located on front of the engine, near the crankshaft
? and ... how easy is it to replace it ?)
thanks,
Ron
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Ninety nine percent of the time it will be the Crankshaft Position
> Sensor, throwing your computer into the limp mode:
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>sorry for the late response. I broke my arm and busy at work.
>>
>>I still have a problem starting my ZJ. When it is cold it just starts
>>fine. When it is at "operating temp" it will not start. When it is kinda
>>warm it will start, but very rough, like it is out of fuel and then it
>>dies. ( I replaced all sparkplugs, sparkplug wires, cap+rotor and
>>fuelfilter. I cleaned the throttlebody and idle control motor/plunger.
>>
>>To me it seems like a sensor that's broken ? The engine is at operating
>>temp and the pcm doesn't know that ? I unplugged a few sensors to see
>>what happens. like the map sensor, tps, the idle control motor... and
>>the motor will run rough for a bit. When I unplug the "intake manifold
>>air temp sensor" nothing happens (but maybe that's normal)
>>
>>any ideas what it could be (and in case of a sensor check/test it) ?
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>Ron
(Is the tdc sensor located on front of the engine, near the crankshaft
? and ... how easy is it to replace it ?)
thanks,
Ron
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Ninety nine percent of the time it will be the Crankshaft Position
> Sensor, throwing your computer into the limp mode:
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>sorry for the late response. I broke my arm and busy at work.
>>
>>I still have a problem starting my ZJ. When it is cold it just starts
>>fine. When it is at "operating temp" it will not start. When it is kinda
>>warm it will start, but very rough, like it is out of fuel and then it
>>dies. ( I replaced all sparkplugs, sparkplug wires, cap+rotor and
>>fuelfilter. I cleaned the throttlebody and idle control motor/plunger.
>>
>>To me it seems like a sensor that's broken ? The engine is at operating
>>temp and the pcm doesn't know that ? I unplugged a few sensors to see
>>what happens. like the map sensor, tps, the idle control motor... and
>>the motor will run rough for a bit. When I unplug the "intake manifold
>>air temp sensor" nothing happens (but maybe that's normal)
>>
>>any ideas what it could be (and in case of a sensor check/test it) ?
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>Ron
10-09-2005, 08:25 PM
#12
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Re: '93 Grand cherokee start problem.
The article talks about an xj, zj's (early ones) have the same problem ?
(Is the tdc sensor located on front of the engine, near the crankshaft
? and ... how easy is it to replace it ?)
thanks,
Ron
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Ninety nine percent of the time it will be the Crankshaft Position
> Sensor, throwing your computer into the limp mode:
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>sorry for the late response. I broke my arm and busy at work.
>>
>>I still have a problem starting my ZJ. When it is cold it just starts
>>fine. When it is at "operating temp" it will not start. When it is kinda
>>warm it will start, but very rough, like it is out of fuel and then it
>>dies. ( I replaced all sparkplugs, sparkplug wires, cap+rotor and
>>fuelfilter. I cleaned the throttlebody and idle control motor/plunger.
>>
>>To me it seems like a sensor that's broken ? The engine is at operating
>>temp and the pcm doesn't know that ? I unplugged a few sensors to see
>>what happens. like the map sensor, tps, the idle control motor... and
>>the motor will run rough for a bit. When I unplug the "intake manifold
>>air temp sensor" nothing happens (but maybe that's normal)
>>
>>any ideas what it could be (and in case of a sensor check/test it) ?
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>Ron
(Is the tdc sensor located on front of the engine, near the crankshaft
? and ... how easy is it to replace it ?)
thanks,
Ron
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Ninety nine percent of the time it will be the Crankshaft Position
> Sensor, throwing your computer into the limp mode:
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>sorry for the late response. I broke my arm and busy at work.
>>
>>I still have a problem starting my ZJ. When it is cold it just starts
>>fine. When it is at "operating temp" it will not start. When it is kinda
>>warm it will start, but very rough, like it is out of fuel and then it
>>dies. ( I replaced all sparkplugs, sparkplug wires, cap+rotor and
>>fuelfilter. I cleaned the throttlebody and idle control motor/plunger.
>>
>>To me it seems like a sensor that's broken ? The engine is at operating
>>temp and the pcm doesn't know that ? I unplugged a few sensors to see
>>what happens. like the map sensor, tps, the idle control motor... and
>>the motor will run rough for a bit. When I unplug the "intake manifold
>>air temp sensor" nothing happens (but maybe that's normal)
>>
>>any ideas what it could be (and in case of a sensor check/test it) ?
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>Ron
10-09-2005, 08:25 PM
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Re: '93 Grand cherokee start problem.
The article talks about an xj, zj's (early ones) have the same problem ?
(Is the tdc sensor located on front of the engine, near the crankshaft
? and ... how easy is it to replace it ?)
thanks,
Ron
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Ninety nine percent of the time it will be the Crankshaft Position
> Sensor, throwing your computer into the limp mode:
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>sorry for the late response. I broke my arm and busy at work.
>>
>>I still have a problem starting my ZJ. When it is cold it just starts
>>fine. When it is at "operating temp" it will not start. When it is kinda
>>warm it will start, but very rough, like it is out of fuel and then it
>>dies. ( I replaced all sparkplugs, sparkplug wires, cap+rotor and
>>fuelfilter. I cleaned the throttlebody and idle control motor/plunger.
>>
>>To me it seems like a sensor that's broken ? The engine is at operating
>>temp and the pcm doesn't know that ? I unplugged a few sensors to see
>>what happens. like the map sensor, tps, the idle control motor... and
>>the motor will run rough for a bit. When I unplug the "intake manifold
>>air temp sensor" nothing happens (but maybe that's normal)
>>
>>any ideas what it could be (and in case of a sensor check/test it) ?
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>Ron
(Is the tdc sensor located on front of the engine, near the crankshaft
? and ... how easy is it to replace it ?)
thanks,
Ron
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Ninety nine percent of the time it will be the Crankshaft Position
> Sensor, throwing your computer into the limp mode:
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>sorry for the late response. I broke my arm and busy at work.
>>
>>I still have a problem starting my ZJ. When it is cold it just starts
>>fine. When it is at "operating temp" it will not start. When it is kinda
>>warm it will start, but very rough, like it is out of fuel and then it
>>dies. ( I replaced all sparkplugs, sparkplug wires, cap+rotor and
>>fuelfilter. I cleaned the throttlebody and idle control motor/plunger.
>>
>>To me it seems like a sensor that's broken ? The engine is at operating
>>temp and the pcm doesn't know that ? I unplugged a few sensors to see
>>what happens. like the map sensor, tps, the idle control motor... and
>>the motor will run rough for a bit. When I unplug the "intake manifold
>>air temp sensor" nothing happens (but maybe that's normal)
>>
>>any ideas what it could be (and in case of a sensor check/test it) ?
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>Ron
10-09-2005, 09:34 PM
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Re: '93 Grand cherokee start problem.
Ron Croonenberg proclaimed:
> The article talks about an xj, zj's (early ones) have the same problem ?
Yes. And later Grands.
>
> (Is the tdc sensor located on front of the engine, near the crankshaft
> ? and ... how easy is it to replace it ?)
For the 4.0
On the driver side at the back of the engine...at the flywheel area
just a bit to the fender side of the cover.
> The article talks about an xj, zj's (early ones) have the same problem ?
Yes. And later Grands.
>
> (Is the tdc sensor located on front of the engine, near the crankshaft
> ? and ... how easy is it to replace it ?)
For the 4.0
On the driver side at the back of the engine...at the flywheel area
just a bit to the fender side of the cover.
10-09-2005, 09:34 PM
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Re: '93 Grand cherokee start problem.
Ron Croonenberg proclaimed:
> The article talks about an xj, zj's (early ones) have the same problem ?
Yes. And later Grands.
>
> (Is the tdc sensor located on front of the engine, near the crankshaft
> ? and ... how easy is it to replace it ?)
For the 4.0
On the driver side at the back of the engine...at the flywheel area
just a bit to the fender side of the cover.
> The article talks about an xj, zj's (early ones) have the same problem ?
Yes. And later Grands.
>
> (Is the tdc sensor located on front of the engine, near the crankshaft
> ? and ... how easy is it to replace it ?)
For the 4.0
On the driver side at the back of the engine...at the flywheel area
just a bit to the fender side of the cover.
10-09-2005, 09:34 PM
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Re: '93 Grand cherokee start problem.
Ron Croonenberg proclaimed:
> The article talks about an xj, zj's (early ones) have the same problem ?
Yes. And later Grands.
>
> (Is the tdc sensor located on front of the engine, near the crankshaft
> ? and ... how easy is it to replace it ?)
For the 4.0
On the driver side at the back of the engine...at the flywheel area
just a bit to the fender side of the cover.
> The article talks about an xj, zj's (early ones) have the same problem ?
Yes. And later Grands.
>
> (Is the tdc sensor located on front of the engine, near the crankshaft
> ? and ... how easy is it to replace it ?)
For the 4.0
On the driver side at the back of the engine...at the flywheel area
just a bit to the fender side of the cover.
10-09-2005, 09:45 PM
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Re: '93 Grand cherokee start problem.
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God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> The article talks about an xj, zj's (early ones) have the same problem ?
>
> (Is the tdc sensor located on front of the engine, near the crankshaft
> ? and ... how easy is it to replace it ?)
>
> thanks,
>
> Ron
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> The article talks about an xj, zj's (early ones) have the same problem ?
>
> (Is the tdc sensor located on front of the engine, near the crankshaft
> ? and ... how easy is it to replace it ?)
>
> thanks,
>
> Ron
10-09-2005, 09:45 PM
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Re: '93 Grand cherokee start problem.
http://members.***.net/wilsond/Fixes...tml#CPSdetails
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> The article talks about an xj, zj's (early ones) have the same problem ?
>
> (Is the tdc sensor located on front of the engine, near the crankshaft
> ? and ... how easy is it to replace it ?)
>
> thanks,
>
> Ron
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> The article talks about an xj, zj's (early ones) have the same problem ?
>
> (Is the tdc sensor located on front of the engine, near the crankshaft
> ? and ... how easy is it to replace it ?)
>
> thanks,
>
> Ron
10-09-2005, 09:45 PM
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Re: '93 Grand cherokee start problem.
http://members.***.net/wilsond/Fixes...tml#CPSdetails
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> The article talks about an xj, zj's (early ones) have the same problem ?
>
> (Is the tdc sensor located on front of the engine, near the crankshaft
> ? and ... how easy is it to replace it ?)
>
> thanks,
>
> Ron
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> The article talks about an xj, zj's (early ones) have the same problem ?
>
> (Is the tdc sensor located on front of the engine, near the crankshaft
> ? and ... how easy is it to replace it ?)
>
> thanks,
>
> Ron
10-09-2005, 10:30 PM
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Re: '93 Grand cherokee start problem.
Except for those models where it is on the driver's side. You can see it
from the top but is easier accessed from the bottom
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> Ron Croonenberg proclaimed:
>
>> The article talks about an xj, zj's (early ones) have the same problem ?
>
> Yes. And later Grands.
>>
>> (Is the tdc sensor located on front of the engine, near the crankshaft ?
>> and ... how easy is it to replace it ?)
>
>
> For the 4.0
> On the driver side at the back of the engine...at the flywheel area
> just a bit to the fender side of the cover.
>
>
from the top but is easier accessed from the bottom
--
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Ron Croonenberg proclaimed:
>
>> The article talks about an xj, zj's (early ones) have the same problem ?
>
> Yes. And later Grands.
>>
>> (Is the tdc sensor located on front of the engine, near the crankshaft ?
>> and ... how easy is it to replace it ?)
>
>
> For the 4.0
> On the driver side at the back of the engine...at the flywheel area
> just a bit to the fender side of the cover.
>
>