91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
12-31-2004, 06:55 PM
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
Many thanks for the link, much better than the Haynes manual. I only backed
it off 1/4 turn, not 1/2.
30lb/ft seems much more like it.
Cheers Bill !
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41D5D5FC.4CE8CD3E@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> You missed the part about backing off the adjusting nut, so the
> bearing may run in grease and not metal to metal.
> http://members.***.net/----------/bearingAdjust.jpg You should be able
> to feel about an sixteenth to an eighth of an inch play at the tire's
> edge.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Well, I rotated the hub while I tightened the inner locknut to ensure it
was
> > seated properly. No play, and a lot less than 50lb/ft on it. The outer
> > locknut is tightened to 50 lb/ft. as specified.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
it off 1/4 turn, not 1/2.
30lb/ft seems much more like it.
Cheers Bill !
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41D5D5FC.4CE8CD3E@***.net...
> Hi Dave,
> You missed the part about backing off the adjusting nut, so the
> bearing may run in grease and not metal to metal.
> http://members.***.net/----------/bearingAdjust.jpg You should be able
> to feel about an sixteenth to an eighth of an inch play at the tire's
> edge.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Well, I rotated the hub while I tightened the inner locknut to ensure it
was
> > seated properly. No play, and a lot less than 50lb/ft on it. The outer
> > locknut is tightened to 50 lb/ft. as specified.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
01-04-2005, 12:43 PM
#62
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
Watch it carefully!
It 'will' back off loose for sure if you didn't use the right torque and
do it twice like the directions say.
I too thought that felt too tight on my CJ7 and did like you did only to
fast wear the whole works out... (If it starts tacking into the
wind...)
It won't seat right unless you over torque it first, then do it the
second time tighter than I thought 'felt' reasonable.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Many thanks for the link, much better than the Haynes manual. I only backed
> it off 1/4 turn, not 1/2.
> 30lb/ft seems much more like it.
>
> Cheers Bill !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41D5D5FC.4CE8CD3E@***.net...
> > Hi Dave,
> > You missed the part about backing off the adjusting nut, so the
> > bearing may run in grease and not metal to metal.
> > http://members.***.net/----------/bearingAdjust.jpg You should be able
> > to feel about an sixteenth to an eighth of an inch play at the tire's
> > edge.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Dave Milne wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, I rotated the hub while I tightened the inner locknut to ensure it
> was
> > > seated properly. No play, and a lot less than 50lb/ft on it. The outer
> > > locknut is tightened to 50 lb/ft. as specified.
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
It 'will' back off loose for sure if you didn't use the right torque and
do it twice like the directions say.
I too thought that felt too tight on my CJ7 and did like you did only to
fast wear the whole works out... (If it starts tacking into the
wind...)
It won't seat right unless you over torque it first, then do it the
second time tighter than I thought 'felt' reasonable.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Many thanks for the link, much better than the Haynes manual. I only backed
> it off 1/4 turn, not 1/2.
> 30lb/ft seems much more like it.
>
> Cheers Bill !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41D5D5FC.4CE8CD3E@***.net...
> > Hi Dave,
> > You missed the part about backing off the adjusting nut, so the
> > bearing may run in grease and not metal to metal.
> > http://members.***.net/----------/bearingAdjust.jpg You should be able
> > to feel about an sixteenth to an eighth of an inch play at the tire's
> > edge.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Dave Milne wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, I rotated the hub while I tightened the inner locknut to ensure it
> was
> > > seated properly. No play, and a lot less than 50lb/ft on it. The outer
> > > locknut is tightened to 50 lb/ft. as specified.
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
01-04-2005, 12:43 PM
#63
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
Watch it carefully!
It 'will' back off loose for sure if you didn't use the right torque and
do it twice like the directions say.
I too thought that felt too tight on my CJ7 and did like you did only to
fast wear the whole works out... (If it starts tacking into the
wind...)
It won't seat right unless you over torque it first, then do it the
second time tighter than I thought 'felt' reasonable.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Many thanks for the link, much better than the Haynes manual. I only backed
> it off 1/4 turn, not 1/2.
> 30lb/ft seems much more like it.
>
> Cheers Bill !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41D5D5FC.4CE8CD3E@***.net...
> > Hi Dave,
> > You missed the part about backing off the adjusting nut, so the
> > bearing may run in grease and not metal to metal.
> > http://members.***.net/----------/bearingAdjust.jpg You should be able
> > to feel about an sixteenth to an eighth of an inch play at the tire's
> > edge.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Dave Milne wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, I rotated the hub while I tightened the inner locknut to ensure it
> was
> > > seated properly. No play, and a lot less than 50lb/ft on it. The outer
> > > locknut is tightened to 50 lb/ft. as specified.
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
It 'will' back off loose for sure if you didn't use the right torque and
do it twice like the directions say.
I too thought that felt too tight on my CJ7 and did like you did only to
fast wear the whole works out... (If it starts tacking into the
wind...)
It won't seat right unless you over torque it first, then do it the
second time tighter than I thought 'felt' reasonable.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Many thanks for the link, much better than the Haynes manual. I only backed
> it off 1/4 turn, not 1/2.
> 30lb/ft seems much more like it.
>
> Cheers Bill !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41D5D5FC.4CE8CD3E@***.net...
> > Hi Dave,
> > You missed the part about backing off the adjusting nut, so the
> > bearing may run in grease and not metal to metal.
> > http://members.***.net/----------/bearingAdjust.jpg You should be able
> > to feel about an sixteenth to an eighth of an inch play at the tire's
> > edge.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Dave Milne wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, I rotated the hub while I tightened the inner locknut to ensure it
> was
> > > seated properly. No play, and a lot less than 50lb/ft on it. The outer
> > > locknut is tightened to 50 lb/ft. as specified.
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
01-04-2005, 12:43 PM
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
Watch it carefully!
It 'will' back off loose for sure if you didn't use the right torque and
do it twice like the directions say.
I too thought that felt too tight on my CJ7 and did like you did only to
fast wear the whole works out... (If it starts tacking into the
wind...)
It won't seat right unless you over torque it first, then do it the
second time tighter than I thought 'felt' reasonable.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Many thanks for the link, much better than the Haynes manual. I only backed
> it off 1/4 turn, not 1/2.
> 30lb/ft seems much more like it.
>
> Cheers Bill !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41D5D5FC.4CE8CD3E@***.net...
> > Hi Dave,
> > You missed the part about backing off the adjusting nut, so the
> > bearing may run in grease and not metal to metal.
> > http://members.***.net/----------/bearingAdjust.jpg You should be able
> > to feel about an sixteenth to an eighth of an inch play at the tire's
> > edge.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Dave Milne wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, I rotated the hub while I tightened the inner locknut to ensure it
> was
> > > seated properly. No play, and a lot less than 50lb/ft on it. The outer
> > > locknut is tightened to 50 lb/ft. as specified.
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
It 'will' back off loose for sure if you didn't use the right torque and
do it twice like the directions say.
I too thought that felt too tight on my CJ7 and did like you did only to
fast wear the whole works out... (If it starts tacking into the
wind...)
It won't seat right unless you over torque it first, then do it the
second time tighter than I thought 'felt' reasonable.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Many thanks for the link, much better than the Haynes manual. I only backed
> it off 1/4 turn, not 1/2.
> 30lb/ft seems much more like it.
>
> Cheers Bill !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41D5D5FC.4CE8CD3E@***.net...
> > Hi Dave,
> > You missed the part about backing off the adjusting nut, so the
> > bearing may run in grease and not metal to metal.
> > http://members.***.net/----------/bearingAdjust.jpg You should be able
> > to feel about an sixteenth to an eighth of an inch play at the tire's
> > edge.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Dave Milne wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, I rotated the hub while I tightened the inner locknut to ensure it
> was
> > > seated properly. No play, and a lot less than 50lb/ft on it. The outer
> > > locknut is tightened to 50 lb/ft. as specified.
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
01-04-2005, 05:40 PM
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
I re-did it exactly per Bill's instructions; the difference between the
Haynes Manual and Bill's instructions was that the Haynes manual said torque
it to 50 lb/ft and leave it there, while Bill's said torque to 50 lb/ft,
then back off and retorque to 30-40 lb/ft. There's more play in it than
there was when I did it, but it's quite an acceptable amount. I will watch
it though.
Cheers to you both.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41DAD5DD.2E8DC1E4@sympatico.ca...
> Watch it carefully!
>
> It 'will' back off loose for sure if you didn't use the right torque and
> do it twice like the directions say.
>
> I too thought that felt too tight on my CJ7 and did like you did only to
> fast wear the whole works out... (If it starts tacking into the
> wind...)
>
> It won't seat right unless you over torque it first, then do it the
> second time tighter than I thought 'felt' reasonable.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Haynes Manual and Bill's instructions was that the Haynes manual said torque
it to 50 lb/ft and leave it there, while Bill's said torque to 50 lb/ft,
then back off and retorque to 30-40 lb/ft. There's more play in it than
there was when I did it, but it's quite an acceptable amount. I will watch
it though.
Cheers to you both.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41DAD5DD.2E8DC1E4@sympatico.ca...
> Watch it carefully!
>
> It 'will' back off loose for sure if you didn't use the right torque and
> do it twice like the directions say.
>
> I too thought that felt too tight on my CJ7 and did like you did only to
> fast wear the whole works out... (If it starts tacking into the
> wind...)
>
> It won't seat right unless you over torque it first, then do it the
> second time tighter than I thought 'felt' reasonable.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
01-04-2005, 05:40 PM
#66
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
I re-did it exactly per Bill's instructions; the difference between the
Haynes Manual and Bill's instructions was that the Haynes manual said torque
it to 50 lb/ft and leave it there, while Bill's said torque to 50 lb/ft,
then back off and retorque to 30-40 lb/ft. There's more play in it than
there was when I did it, but it's quite an acceptable amount. I will watch
it though.
Cheers to you both.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41DAD5DD.2E8DC1E4@sympatico.ca...
> Watch it carefully!
>
> It 'will' back off loose for sure if you didn't use the right torque and
> do it twice like the directions say.
>
> I too thought that felt too tight on my CJ7 and did like you did only to
> fast wear the whole works out... (If it starts tacking into the
> wind...)
>
> It won't seat right unless you over torque it first, then do it the
> second time tighter than I thought 'felt' reasonable.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Haynes Manual and Bill's instructions was that the Haynes manual said torque
it to 50 lb/ft and leave it there, while Bill's said torque to 50 lb/ft,
then back off and retorque to 30-40 lb/ft. There's more play in it than
there was when I did it, but it's quite an acceptable amount. I will watch
it though.
Cheers to you both.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41DAD5DD.2E8DC1E4@sympatico.ca...
> Watch it carefully!
>
> It 'will' back off loose for sure if you didn't use the right torque and
> do it twice like the directions say.
>
> I too thought that felt too tight on my CJ7 and did like you did only to
> fast wear the whole works out... (If it starts tacking into the
> wind...)
>
> It won't seat right unless you over torque it first, then do it the
> second time tighter than I thought 'felt' reasonable.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
01-04-2005, 05:40 PM
#67
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
I re-did it exactly per Bill's instructions; the difference between the
Haynes Manual and Bill's instructions was that the Haynes manual said torque
it to 50 lb/ft and leave it there, while Bill's said torque to 50 lb/ft,
then back off and retorque to 30-40 lb/ft. There's more play in it than
there was when I did it, but it's quite an acceptable amount. I will watch
it though.
Cheers to you both.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41DAD5DD.2E8DC1E4@sympatico.ca...
> Watch it carefully!
>
> It 'will' back off loose for sure if you didn't use the right torque and
> do it twice like the directions say.
>
> I too thought that felt too tight on my CJ7 and did like you did only to
> fast wear the whole works out... (If it starts tacking into the
> wind...)
>
> It won't seat right unless you over torque it first, then do it the
> second time tighter than I thought 'felt' reasonable.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Haynes Manual and Bill's instructions was that the Haynes manual said torque
it to 50 lb/ft and leave it there, while Bill's said torque to 50 lb/ft,
then back off and retorque to 30-40 lb/ft. There's more play in it than
there was when I did it, but it's quite an acceptable amount. I will watch
it though.
Cheers to you both.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41DAD5DD.2E8DC1E4@sympatico.ca...
> Watch it carefully!
>
> It 'will' back off loose for sure if you didn't use the right torque and
> do it twice like the directions say.
>
> I too thought that felt too tight on my CJ7 and did like you did only to
> fast wear the whole works out... (If it starts tacking into the
> wind...)
>
> It won't seat right unless you over torque it first, then do it the
> second time tighter than I thought 'felt' reasonable.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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