91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
#31
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
Hi Dave,
Bummer, that does look bad. I had a spindle crack and bend up,
loosening the bearings, making the snap ring and inner spline that the
lock ring slides on, the only thing holding the wheel. Which in your
case must be turning with the wheel and wearing into yours. I still
can't image it peed enough to lock up, though. I have had to take a
torch and cut the nut and race off a couple of two wheel drive cars.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Bill,
> Thanks for the link - always good to see another few photos.
>
> Yes, you understood me - it is the outer locknut is the one I can't remove.
>
> The part in your link says "A screw driver is placed in the reses of the
> nut, and a hammer hits it. This is done several times to losen the nut
> untill removed.Tip: Buy a Axle Nut socket if your doing this more and a
> couple times"
>
> If you look in my link ( http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer1.jpg ) you
> will see how chewed up it is with someone else's efforts with screw drivers
> and hammers. Also, something has worn the crap out of the face of it (
> compare it to the one in your link
> http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/images...nut_washer.jpg )
> .
> Well, I've got the tool and it ain't budging. Not even with an impact driver
> on the socket, and I hit it hard.
>
> btw, I thought it was the *inner* locknut that has the pin that locates in
> the "axle nut washer" ?
>
> Dave
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41D338D7.30C9CF88@***.net...
> > Hi Dave,
> > I'm not understanding your problem, the outer lock nut is just over
> > finger tight, if we torqued it much tighter, say at ten pounds would
> > shear the little interlocking pin that sits crossways in the keyed
> > washer between the nuts: http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/Mr.N44.htm
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Dave Milne wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm positive it is the right one, although the tool Im using was
> advertised
> > > for a Ford Bronco/Wagoneer. It's a perfect fit for the replacement
> locknut
> > > that the dealer supplied (marked Wagoneer), but this nut as you can see
> from
> > > the photos is badly mashed , so it fits but somewhat loosely. It didn't
> pop
> > > out when whacked with the impact driver. I've got a new punch to try,
> but
> > > I'm convinced it's going to have to be a drill/chisel job.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > "Jeremy Hupe" <jhupeSPAM@cableone.net> wrote in message
> > > news:10t4hvf2l163mbd@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > Also there are 2-3 different sizes of nuts that have been used over
> the
> > > > years between jeep, chevy, ford, etc. make sure you have the right
> sized
> > > > socket.
> > > >
> > > > Jeremy
Bummer, that does look bad. I had a spindle crack and bend up,
loosening the bearings, making the snap ring and inner spline that the
lock ring slides on, the only thing holding the wheel. Which in your
case must be turning with the wheel and wearing into yours. I still
can't image it peed enough to lock up, though. I have had to take a
torch and cut the nut and race off a couple of two wheel drive cars.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Bill,
> Thanks for the link - always good to see another few photos.
>
> Yes, you understood me - it is the outer locknut is the one I can't remove.
>
> The part in your link says "A screw driver is placed in the reses of the
> nut, and a hammer hits it. This is done several times to losen the nut
> untill removed.Tip: Buy a Axle Nut socket if your doing this more and a
> couple times"
>
> If you look in my link ( http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer1.jpg ) you
> will see how chewed up it is with someone else's efforts with screw drivers
> and hammers. Also, something has worn the crap out of the face of it (
> compare it to the one in your link
> http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/images...nut_washer.jpg )
> .
> Well, I've got the tool and it ain't budging. Not even with an impact driver
> on the socket, and I hit it hard.
>
> btw, I thought it was the *inner* locknut that has the pin that locates in
> the "axle nut washer" ?
>
> Dave
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:41D338D7.30C9CF88@***.net...
> > Hi Dave,
> > I'm not understanding your problem, the outer lock nut is just over
> > finger tight, if we torqued it much tighter, say at ten pounds would
> > shear the little interlocking pin that sits crossways in the keyed
> > washer between the nuts: http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/Mr.N44.htm
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Dave Milne wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm positive it is the right one, although the tool Im using was
> advertised
> > > for a Ford Bronco/Wagoneer. It's a perfect fit for the replacement
> locknut
> > > that the dealer supplied (marked Wagoneer), but this nut as you can see
> from
> > > the photos is badly mashed , so it fits but somewhat loosely. It didn't
> pop
> > > out when whacked with the impact driver. I've got a new punch to try,
> but
> > > I'm convinced it's going to have to be a drill/chisel job.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > "Jeremy Hupe" <jhupeSPAM@cableone.net> wrote in message
> > > news:10t4hvf2l163mbd@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > Also there are 2-3 different sizes of nuts that have been used over
> the
> > > > years between jeep, chevy, ford, etc. make sure you have the right
> sized
> > > > socket.
> > > >
> > > > Jeremy
#32
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
Maybe switch to a cheater bar, as the socket is so big it'll take
up most of the energy of an impact.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
mike92105 wrote:
>
> How much air pressure are you using for the air hammer, try increasing air
> pressure to as much as possible.
up most of the energy of an impact.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
mike92105 wrote:
>
> How much air pressure are you using for the air hammer, try increasing air
> pressure to as much as possible.
#33
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
Maybe switch to a cheater bar, as the socket is so big it'll take
up most of the energy of an impact.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
mike92105 wrote:
>
> How much air pressure are you using for the air hammer, try increasing air
> pressure to as much as possible.
up most of the energy of an impact.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
mike92105 wrote:
>
> How much air pressure are you using for the air hammer, try increasing air
> pressure to as much as possible.
#34
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
Maybe switch to a cheater bar, as the socket is so big it'll take
up most of the energy of an impact.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
mike92105 wrote:
>
> How much air pressure are you using for the air hammer, try increasing air
> pressure to as much as possible.
up most of the energy of an impact.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
mike92105 wrote:
>
> How much air pressure are you using for the air hammer, try increasing air
> pressure to as much as possible.
#35
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
Got it off with a BGF and a steel punch. It was on so tight, that it died a
horrible
death rather than unscrew:
http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/brokenLocknut_40.JPG
The last piece of the 4 hung on so tenaciously, that it required a chisel.
Will continue tomorrow (it gets fully dark at 4pm here and starts getting
dark about 3:15pm).
I suspect the hub thread might be chewed, but I'll wait until I've got the
whole thing off and cleaned. I wouldn't count on being able to get another
hub inside 2 weeks ; probably a special order from the US or DCs Belgian
warehouse.
Dave Milne
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41D39B77.4925CF10@***.net...
> Maybe switch to a cheater bar, as the socket is so big it'll take
> up most of the energy of an impact.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> mike92105 wrote:
> >
> > How much air pressure are you using for the air hammer, try increasing
air
> > pressure to as much as possible.
horrible
death rather than unscrew:
http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/brokenLocknut_40.JPG
The last piece of the 4 hung on so tenaciously, that it required a chisel.
Will continue tomorrow (it gets fully dark at 4pm here and starts getting
dark about 3:15pm).
I suspect the hub thread might be chewed, but I'll wait until I've got the
whole thing off and cleaned. I wouldn't count on being able to get another
hub inside 2 weeks ; probably a special order from the US or DCs Belgian
warehouse.
Dave Milne
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41D39B77.4925CF10@***.net...
> Maybe switch to a cheater bar, as the socket is so big it'll take
> up most of the energy of an impact.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> mike92105 wrote:
> >
> > How much air pressure are you using for the air hammer, try increasing
air
> > pressure to as much as possible.
#36
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
Got it off with a BGF and a steel punch. It was on so tight, that it died a
horrible
death rather than unscrew:
http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/brokenLocknut_40.JPG
The last piece of the 4 hung on so tenaciously, that it required a chisel.
Will continue tomorrow (it gets fully dark at 4pm here and starts getting
dark about 3:15pm).
I suspect the hub thread might be chewed, but I'll wait until I've got the
whole thing off and cleaned. I wouldn't count on being able to get another
hub inside 2 weeks ; probably a special order from the US or DCs Belgian
warehouse.
Dave Milne
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41D39B77.4925CF10@***.net...
> Maybe switch to a cheater bar, as the socket is so big it'll take
> up most of the energy of an impact.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> mike92105 wrote:
> >
> > How much air pressure are you using for the air hammer, try increasing
air
> > pressure to as much as possible.
horrible
death rather than unscrew:
http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/brokenLocknut_40.JPG
The last piece of the 4 hung on so tenaciously, that it required a chisel.
Will continue tomorrow (it gets fully dark at 4pm here and starts getting
dark about 3:15pm).
I suspect the hub thread might be chewed, but I'll wait until I've got the
whole thing off and cleaned. I wouldn't count on being able to get another
hub inside 2 weeks ; probably a special order from the US or DCs Belgian
warehouse.
Dave Milne
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41D39B77.4925CF10@***.net...
> Maybe switch to a cheater bar, as the socket is so big it'll take
> up most of the energy of an impact.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> mike92105 wrote:
> >
> > How much air pressure are you using for the air hammer, try increasing
air
> > pressure to as much as possible.
#37
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
Got it off with a BGF and a steel punch. It was on so tight, that it died a
horrible
death rather than unscrew:
http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/brokenLocknut_40.JPG
The last piece of the 4 hung on so tenaciously, that it required a chisel.
Will continue tomorrow (it gets fully dark at 4pm here and starts getting
dark about 3:15pm).
I suspect the hub thread might be chewed, but I'll wait until I've got the
whole thing off and cleaned. I wouldn't count on being able to get another
hub inside 2 weeks ; probably a special order from the US or DCs Belgian
warehouse.
Dave Milne
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41D39B77.4925CF10@***.net...
> Maybe switch to a cheater bar, as the socket is so big it'll take
> up most of the energy of an impact.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> mike92105 wrote:
> >
> > How much air pressure are you using for the air hammer, try increasing
air
> > pressure to as much as possible.
horrible
death rather than unscrew:
http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/brokenLocknut_40.JPG
The last piece of the 4 hung on so tenaciously, that it required a chisel.
Will continue tomorrow (it gets fully dark at 4pm here and starts getting
dark about 3:15pm).
I suspect the hub thread might be chewed, but I'll wait until I've got the
whole thing off and cleaned. I wouldn't count on being able to get another
hub inside 2 weeks ; probably a special order from the US or DCs Belgian
warehouse.
Dave Milne
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41D39B77.4925CF10@***.net...
> Maybe switch to a cheater bar, as the socket is so big it'll take
> up most of the energy of an impact.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> mike92105 wrote:
> >
> > How much air pressure are you using for the air hammer, try increasing
air
> > pressure to as much as possible.
#38
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
Hi Dave,
Check the bone yards around US Military bases for their dependent's
wrecks and take the guts out of any Ford, GM, or Dodge.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Got it off with a BGF and a steel punch. It was on so tight, that it died a
> horrible
> death rather than unscrew:
> http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/brokenLocknut_40.JPG
>
> The last piece of the 4 hung on so tenaciously, that it required a chisel.
>
> Will continue tomorrow (it gets fully dark at 4pm here and starts getting
> dark about 3:15pm).
> I suspect the hub thread might be chewed, but I'll wait until I've got the
> whole thing off and cleaned. I wouldn't count on being able to get another
> hub inside 2 weeks ; probably a special order from the US or DCs Belgian
> warehouse.
>
> Dave Milne
Check the bone yards around US Military bases for their dependent's
wrecks and take the guts out of any Ford, GM, or Dodge.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Got it off with a BGF and a steel punch. It was on so tight, that it died a
> horrible
> death rather than unscrew:
> http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/brokenLocknut_40.JPG
>
> The last piece of the 4 hung on so tenaciously, that it required a chisel.
>
> Will continue tomorrow (it gets fully dark at 4pm here and starts getting
> dark about 3:15pm).
> I suspect the hub thread might be chewed, but I'll wait until I've got the
> whole thing off and cleaned. I wouldn't count on being able to get another
> hub inside 2 weeks ; probably a special order from the US or DCs Belgian
> warehouse.
>
> Dave Milne
#39
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
Hi Dave,
Check the bone yards around US Military bases for their dependent's
wrecks and take the guts out of any Ford, GM, or Dodge.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Got it off with a BGF and a steel punch. It was on so tight, that it died a
> horrible
> death rather than unscrew:
> http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/brokenLocknut_40.JPG
>
> The last piece of the 4 hung on so tenaciously, that it required a chisel.
>
> Will continue tomorrow (it gets fully dark at 4pm here and starts getting
> dark about 3:15pm).
> I suspect the hub thread might be chewed, but I'll wait until I've got the
> whole thing off and cleaned. I wouldn't count on being able to get another
> hub inside 2 weeks ; probably a special order from the US or DCs Belgian
> warehouse.
>
> Dave Milne
Check the bone yards around US Military bases for their dependent's
wrecks and take the guts out of any Ford, GM, or Dodge.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Got it off with a BGF and a steel punch. It was on so tight, that it died a
> horrible
> death rather than unscrew:
> http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/brokenLocknut_40.JPG
>
> The last piece of the 4 hung on so tenaciously, that it required a chisel.
>
> Will continue tomorrow (it gets fully dark at 4pm here and starts getting
> dark about 3:15pm).
> I suspect the hub thread might be chewed, but I'll wait until I've got the
> whole thing off and cleaned. I wouldn't count on being able to get another
> hub inside 2 weeks ; probably a special order from the US or DCs Belgian
> warehouse.
>
> Dave Milne
#40
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Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
Hi Dave,
Check the bone yards around US Military bases for their dependent's
wrecks and take the guts out of any Ford, GM, or Dodge.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Got it off with a BGF and a steel punch. It was on so tight, that it died a
> horrible
> death rather than unscrew:
> http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/brokenLocknut_40.JPG
>
> The last piece of the 4 hung on so tenaciously, that it required a chisel.
>
> Will continue tomorrow (it gets fully dark at 4pm here and starts getting
> dark about 3:15pm).
> I suspect the hub thread might be chewed, but I'll wait until I've got the
> whole thing off and cleaned. I wouldn't count on being able to get another
> hub inside 2 weeks ; probably a special order from the US or DCs Belgian
> warehouse.
>
> Dave Milne
Check the bone yards around US Military bases for their dependent's
wrecks and take the guts out of any Ford, GM, or Dodge.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Got it off with a BGF and a steel punch. It was on so tight, that it died a
> horrible
> death rather than unscrew:
> http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/brokenLocknut_40.JPG
>
> The last piece of the 4 hung on so tenaciously, that it required a chisel.
>
> Will continue tomorrow (it gets fully dark at 4pm here and starts getting
> dark about 3:15pm).
> I suspect the hub thread might be chewed, but I'll wait until I've got the
> whole thing off and cleaned. I wouldn't count on being able to get another
> hub inside 2 weeks ; probably a special order from the US or DCs Belgian
> warehouse.
>
> Dave Milne