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Dave Milne 12-27-2004 08:41 AM

91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
 
I am having problems removing part of my front driver's side hub assembly on
my '91 Waggy. It's a Dana 44 6 lug without manual locking hubs.



Here is a pic of the dealer schematic:



http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/dealerSchematic.jpg



I removed the circlip / snap-ring.

Then I removed a 1" thick splined spacer ( looks like a cog as it splines
onto the axle shaft and also the axle)

Then I removed a 1" thick sleeve (doesn't seem to be shown on schematic).



http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/DSCN1920.JPG

http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/DSCN1921.JPG





Behind that is a piece of metal through which the axle shaft passes. It has
4 notches on the circumference which are chewed up.



http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer1.jpg

http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer2.jpg

http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer3.jpg



I'm guessing that it is the outer locknut (item 12 on the schematic) which
is removed with the Dana 44 hub socket ? Am I right ? The notches are
either too chewed up or to small for the hub socket to fit. I guess I'll
have to drive it out with a hammer and punch/chisel.



However it also appears that I am missing a spring (item 14 on the
schematic). I'm not sure where this spring could possibly fit if it existed
as the splined spacer (item 17) was tight against its snap ring. Is the
schematic wrong or am I really missing a spring ?



Thanks for any assistance guys.









Mike Romain 12-27-2004 09:24 AM

Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
 
That schematic looks to be showing you two different versions of the
hub. One uses a spacer in place of the spring by the looks of it.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I am having problems removing part of my front driver's side hub assembly on
> my '91 Waggy. It's a Dana 44 6 lug without manual locking hubs.
>
> Here is a pic of the dealer schematic:
>
> http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/dealerSchematic.jpg
>
> I removed the circlip / snap-ring.
>
> Then I removed a 1" thick splined spacer ( looks like a cog as it splines
> onto the axle shaft and also the axle)
>
> Then I removed a 1" thick sleeve (doesn't seem to be shown on schematic).
>
> http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/DSCN1920.JPG
>
> http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/DSCN1921.JPG
>
> Behind that is a piece of metal through which the axle shaft passes. It has
> 4 notches on the circumference which are chewed up.
>
> http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer1.jpg
>
> http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer2.jpg
>
> http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer3.jpg
>
> I'm guessing that it is the outer locknut (item 12 on the schematic) which
> is removed with the Dana 44 hub socket ? Am I right ? The notches are
> either too chewed up or to small for the hub socket to fit. I guess I'll
> have to drive it out with a hammer and punch/chisel.
>
> However it also appears that I am missing a spring (item 14 on the
> schematic). I'm not sure where this spring could possibly fit if it existed
> as the splined spacer (item 17) was tight against its snap ring. Is the
> schematic wrong or am I really missing a spring ?
>
> Thanks for any assistance guys.


Mike Romain 12-27-2004 09:24 AM

Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
 
That schematic looks to be showing you two different versions of the
hub. One uses a spacer in place of the spring by the looks of it.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I am having problems removing part of my front driver's side hub assembly on
> my '91 Waggy. It's a Dana 44 6 lug without manual locking hubs.
>
> Here is a pic of the dealer schematic:
>
> http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/dealerSchematic.jpg
>
> I removed the circlip / snap-ring.
>
> Then I removed a 1" thick splined spacer ( looks like a cog as it splines
> onto the axle shaft and also the axle)
>
> Then I removed a 1" thick sleeve (doesn't seem to be shown on schematic).
>
> http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/DSCN1920.JPG
>
> http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/DSCN1921.JPG
>
> Behind that is a piece of metal through which the axle shaft passes. It has
> 4 notches on the circumference which are chewed up.
>
> http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer1.jpg
>
> http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer2.jpg
>
> http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer3.jpg
>
> I'm guessing that it is the outer locknut (item 12 on the schematic) which
> is removed with the Dana 44 hub socket ? Am I right ? The notches are
> either too chewed up or to small for the hub socket to fit. I guess I'll
> have to drive it out with a hammer and punch/chisel.
>
> However it also appears that I am missing a spring (item 14 on the
> schematic). I'm not sure where this spring could possibly fit if it existed
> as the splined spacer (item 17) was tight against its snap ring. Is the
> schematic wrong or am I really missing a spring ?
>
> Thanks for any assistance guys.


Mike Romain 12-27-2004 09:24 AM

Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
 
That schematic looks to be showing you two different versions of the
hub. One uses a spacer in place of the spring by the looks of it.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> I am having problems removing part of my front driver's side hub assembly on
> my '91 Waggy. It's a Dana 44 6 lug without manual locking hubs.
>
> Here is a pic of the dealer schematic:
>
> http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/dealerSchematic.jpg
>
> I removed the circlip / snap-ring.
>
> Then I removed a 1" thick splined spacer ( looks like a cog as it splines
> onto the axle shaft and also the axle)
>
> Then I removed a 1" thick sleeve (doesn't seem to be shown on schematic).
>
> http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/DSCN1920.JPG
>
> http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/DSCN1921.JPG
>
> Behind that is a piece of metal through which the axle shaft passes. It has
> 4 notches on the circumference which are chewed up.
>
> http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer1.jpg
>
> http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer2.jpg
>
> http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer3.jpg
>
> I'm guessing that it is the outer locknut (item 12 on the schematic) which
> is removed with the Dana 44 hub socket ? Am I right ? The notches are
> either too chewed up or to small for the hub socket to fit. I guess I'll
> have to drive it out with a hammer and punch/chisel.
>
> However it also appears that I am missing a spring (item 14 on the
> schematic). I'm not sure where this spring could possibly fit if it existed
> as the splined spacer (item 17) was tight against its snap ring. Is the
> schematic wrong or am I really missing a spring ?
>
> Thanks for any assistance guys.


Dave Milne 12-27-2004 10:08 AM

Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
 
There wasn't a spacer there either - that was the strange thing.
I'm pretty confident that is the lock nut - it's on extremely tight, so I'll
have to smack it with an impact driver.

Dave

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41D01B0A.34BCA5BA@sympatico.ca...
> That schematic looks to be showing you two different versions of the
> hub. One uses a spacer in place of the spring by the looks of it.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I am having problems removing part of my front driver's side hub

assembly on
> > my '91 Waggy. It's a Dana 44 6 lug without manual locking hubs.
> >
> > Here is a pic of the dealer schematic:
> >
> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/dealerSchematic.jpg
> >
> > I removed the circlip / snap-ring.
> >
> > Then I removed a 1" thick splined spacer ( looks like a cog as it

splines
> > onto the axle shaft and also the axle)
> >
> > Then I removed a 1" thick sleeve (doesn't seem to be shown on

schematic).
> >
> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/DSCN1920.JPG
> >
> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/DSCN1921.JPG
> >
> > Behind that is a piece of metal through which the axle shaft passes. It

has
> > 4 notches on the circumference which are chewed up.
> >
> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer1.jpg
> >
> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer2.jpg
> >
> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer3.jpg
> >
> > I'm guessing that it is the outer locknut (item 12 on the schematic)

which
> > is removed with the Dana 44 hub socket ? Am I right ? The notches are
> > either too chewed up or to small for the hub socket to fit. I guess I'll
> > have to drive it out with a hammer and punch/chisel.
> >
> > However it also appears that I am missing a spring (item 14 on the
> > schematic). I'm not sure where this spring could possibly fit if it

existed
> > as the splined spacer (item 17) was tight against its snap ring. Is the
> > schematic wrong or am I really missing a spring ?
> >
> > Thanks for any assistance guys.




Dave Milne 12-27-2004 10:08 AM

Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
 
There wasn't a spacer there either - that was the strange thing.
I'm pretty confident that is the lock nut - it's on extremely tight, so I'll
have to smack it with an impact driver.

Dave

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41D01B0A.34BCA5BA@sympatico.ca...
> That schematic looks to be showing you two different versions of the
> hub. One uses a spacer in place of the spring by the looks of it.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I am having problems removing part of my front driver's side hub

assembly on
> > my '91 Waggy. It's a Dana 44 6 lug without manual locking hubs.
> >
> > Here is a pic of the dealer schematic:
> >
> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/dealerSchematic.jpg
> >
> > I removed the circlip / snap-ring.
> >
> > Then I removed a 1" thick splined spacer ( looks like a cog as it

splines
> > onto the axle shaft and also the axle)
> >
> > Then I removed a 1" thick sleeve (doesn't seem to be shown on

schematic).
> >
> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/DSCN1920.JPG
> >
> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/DSCN1921.JPG
> >
> > Behind that is a piece of metal through which the axle shaft passes. It

has
> > 4 notches on the circumference which are chewed up.
> >
> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer1.jpg
> >
> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer2.jpg
> >
> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer3.jpg
> >
> > I'm guessing that it is the outer locknut (item 12 on the schematic)

which
> > is removed with the Dana 44 hub socket ? Am I right ? The notches are
> > either too chewed up or to small for the hub socket to fit. I guess I'll
> > have to drive it out with a hammer and punch/chisel.
> >
> > However it also appears that I am missing a spring (item 14 on the
> > schematic). I'm not sure where this spring could possibly fit if it

existed
> > as the splined spacer (item 17) was tight against its snap ring. Is the
> > schematic wrong or am I really missing a spring ?
> >
> > Thanks for any assistance guys.




Dave Milne 12-27-2004 10:08 AM

Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
 
There wasn't a spacer there either - that was the strange thing.
I'm pretty confident that is the lock nut - it's on extremely tight, so I'll
have to smack it with an impact driver.

Dave

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41D01B0A.34BCA5BA@sympatico.ca...
> That schematic looks to be showing you two different versions of the
> hub. One uses a spacer in place of the spring by the looks of it.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > I am having problems removing part of my front driver's side hub

assembly on
> > my '91 Waggy. It's a Dana 44 6 lug without manual locking hubs.
> >
> > Here is a pic of the dealer schematic:
> >
> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/dealerSchematic.jpg
> >
> > I removed the circlip / snap-ring.
> >
> > Then I removed a 1" thick splined spacer ( looks like a cog as it

splines
> > onto the axle shaft and also the axle)
> >
> > Then I removed a 1" thick sleeve (doesn't seem to be shown on

schematic).
> >
> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/DSCN1920.JPG
> >
> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/DSCN1921.JPG
> >
> > Behind that is a piece of metal through which the axle shaft passes. It

has
> > 4 notches on the circumference which are chewed up.
> >
> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer1.jpg
> >
> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer2.jpg
> >
> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer3.jpg
> >
> > I'm guessing that it is the outer locknut (item 12 on the schematic)

which
> > is removed with the Dana 44 hub socket ? Am I right ? The notches are
> > either too chewed up or to small for the hub socket to fit. I guess I'll
> > have to drive it out with a hammer and punch/chisel.
> >
> > However it also appears that I am missing a spring (item 14 on the
> > schematic). I'm not sure where this spring could possibly fit if it

existed
> > as the splined spacer (item 17) was tight against its snap ring. Is the
> > schematic wrong or am I really missing a spring ?
> >
> > Thanks for any assistance guys.




Jeremy Hupe 12-29-2004 01:00 AM

Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
 
Also there are 2-3 different sizes of nuts that have been used over the
years between jeep, chevy, ford, etc. make sure you have the right sized
socket.

Jeremy


"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:JzVzd.7663$Ar5.6125@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> There wasn't a spacer there either - that was the strange thing.
> I'm pretty confident that is the lock nut - it's on extremely tight, so
> I'll
> have to smack it with an impact driver.
>
> Dave
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41D01B0A.34BCA5BA@sympatico.ca...
>> That schematic looks to be showing you two different versions of the
>> hub. One uses a spacer in place of the spring by the looks of it.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>> >
>> > I am having problems removing part of my front driver's side hub

> assembly on
>> > my '91 Waggy. It's a Dana 44 6 lug without manual locking hubs.
>> >
>> > Here is a pic of the dealer schematic:
>> >
>> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/dealerSchematic.jpg
>> >
>> > I removed the circlip / snap-ring.
>> >
>> > Then I removed a 1" thick splined spacer ( looks like a cog as it

> splines
>> > onto the axle shaft and also the axle)
>> >
>> > Then I removed a 1" thick sleeve (doesn't seem to be shown on

> schematic).
>> >
>> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/DSCN1920.JPG
>> >
>> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/DSCN1921.JPG
>> >
>> > Behind that is a piece of metal through which the axle shaft passes. It

> has
>> > 4 notches on the circumference which are chewed up.
>> >
>> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer1.jpg
>> >
>> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer2.jpg
>> >
>> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer3.jpg
>> >
>> > I'm guessing that it is the outer locknut (item 12 on the schematic)

> which
>> > is removed with the Dana 44 hub socket ? Am I right ? The notches are
>> > either too chewed up or to small for the hub socket to fit. I guess
>> > I'll
>> > have to drive it out with a hammer and punch/chisel.
>> >
>> > However it also appears that I am missing a spring (item 14 on the
>> > schematic). I'm not sure where this spring could possibly fit if it

> existed
>> > as the splined spacer (item 17) was tight against its snap ring. Is
>> > the
>> > schematic wrong or am I really missing a spring ?
>> >
>> > Thanks for any assistance guys.

>
>




Jeremy Hupe 12-29-2004 01:00 AM

Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
 
Also there are 2-3 different sizes of nuts that have been used over the
years between jeep, chevy, ford, etc. make sure you have the right sized
socket.

Jeremy


"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:JzVzd.7663$Ar5.6125@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> There wasn't a spacer there either - that was the strange thing.
> I'm pretty confident that is the lock nut - it's on extremely tight, so
> I'll
> have to smack it with an impact driver.
>
> Dave
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41D01B0A.34BCA5BA@sympatico.ca...
>> That schematic looks to be showing you two different versions of the
>> hub. One uses a spacer in place of the spring by the looks of it.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>> >
>> > I am having problems removing part of my front driver's side hub

> assembly on
>> > my '91 Waggy. It's a Dana 44 6 lug without manual locking hubs.
>> >
>> > Here is a pic of the dealer schematic:
>> >
>> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/dealerSchematic.jpg
>> >
>> > I removed the circlip / snap-ring.
>> >
>> > Then I removed a 1" thick splined spacer ( looks like a cog as it

> splines
>> > onto the axle shaft and also the axle)
>> >
>> > Then I removed a 1" thick sleeve (doesn't seem to be shown on

> schematic).
>> >
>> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/DSCN1920.JPG
>> >
>> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/DSCN1921.JPG
>> >
>> > Behind that is a piece of metal through which the axle shaft passes. It

> has
>> > 4 notches on the circumference which are chewed up.
>> >
>> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer1.jpg
>> >
>> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer2.jpg
>> >
>> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer3.jpg
>> >
>> > I'm guessing that it is the outer locknut (item 12 on the schematic)

> which
>> > is removed with the Dana 44 hub socket ? Am I right ? The notches are
>> > either too chewed up or to small for the hub socket to fit. I guess
>> > I'll
>> > have to drive it out with a hammer and punch/chisel.
>> >
>> > However it also appears that I am missing a spring (item 14 on the
>> > schematic). I'm not sure where this spring could possibly fit if it

> existed
>> > as the splined spacer (item 17) was tight against its snap ring. Is
>> > the
>> > schematic wrong or am I really missing a spring ?
>> >
>> > Thanks for any assistance guys.

>
>




Jeremy Hupe 12-29-2004 01:00 AM

Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
 
Also there are 2-3 different sizes of nuts that have been used over the
years between jeep, chevy, ford, etc. make sure you have the right sized
socket.

Jeremy


"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:JzVzd.7663$Ar5.6125@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> There wasn't a spacer there either - that was the strange thing.
> I'm pretty confident that is the lock nut - it's on extremely tight, so
> I'll
> have to smack it with an impact driver.
>
> Dave
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41D01B0A.34BCA5BA@sympatico.ca...
>> That schematic looks to be showing you two different versions of the
>> hub. One uses a spacer in place of the spring by the looks of it.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>> >
>> > I am having problems removing part of my front driver's side hub

> assembly on
>> > my '91 Waggy. It's a Dana 44 6 lug without manual locking hubs.
>> >
>> > Here is a pic of the dealer schematic:
>> >
>> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/dealerSchematic.jpg
>> >
>> > I removed the circlip / snap-ring.
>> >
>> > Then I removed a 1" thick splined spacer ( looks like a cog as it

> splines
>> > onto the axle shaft and also the axle)
>> >
>> > Then I removed a 1" thick sleeve (doesn't seem to be shown on

> schematic).
>> >
>> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/DSCN1920.JPG
>> >
>> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/DSCN1921.JPG
>> >
>> > Behind that is a piece of metal through which the axle shaft passes. It

> has
>> > 4 notches on the circumference which are chewed up.
>> >
>> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer1.jpg
>> >
>> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer2.jpg
>> >
>> > http://www.brintsoft.com/dave/retainer3.jpg
>> >
>> > I'm guessing that it is the outer locknut (item 12 on the schematic)

> which
>> > is removed with the Dana 44 hub socket ? Am I right ? The notches are
>> > either too chewed up or to small for the hub socket to fit. I guess
>> > I'll
>> > have to drive it out with a hammer and punch/chisel.
>> >
>> > However it also appears that I am missing a spring (item 14 on the
>> > schematic). I'm not sure where this spring could possibly fit if it

> existed
>> > as the splined spacer (item 17) was tight against its snap ring. Is
>> > the
>> > schematic wrong or am I really missing a spring ?
>> >
>> > Thanks for any assistance guys.

>
>





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