Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
 

Hi Dave,
You've got to find whatever pulled the axles and it's spacer back
against the spindle.
The fifty pounds is I'm sure, just to make sure any replace bearing
races are seated, then back off at least a quarter turn, knowing the
outer nut will take up about half that.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Fortunately the spindle was ok. The threads on the end were a bit worn, but
> a few turn on- turn offs of the lock nut sorted that out. The Haynes manual
> says tighten the inner locknut to 50 lb/ft ???? Surely this is nonsense ??.
> I tightened it until the slack was gone, same as you tighten any other
> taper-roller bearing, i.e about hand tight. As far as I can tell the problem
> was due to the drive cog being put on backwards, and scuffing the lock nut.
> I also think the outer locknut came loose. The timken bearings seemed fine,
> so I just repacked them with moly grease, and replaced the seal. If slack
> develops, I can always put in the new bearings later. I'm going to need a
> new drive cog.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:41D48617.CB2D2384@cox.net...
> > I think you'll find the spindle tube broken, that's the only way
> > the spacer would have been forced against. Still not a problem just
> > unbolt and replace it too.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Dave Milne wrote:
> > >
> > > There's a thought. I've a friend that can locate 2 complete waggy axles,
> but
> > > it isn't looking that bad so far :-)
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
 

Hi Dave,
You've got to find whatever pulled the axles and it's spacer back
against the spindle.
The fifty pounds is I'm sure, just to make sure any replace bearing
races are seated, then back off at least a quarter turn, knowing the
outer nut will take up about half that.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Fortunately the spindle was ok. The threads on the end were a bit worn, but
> a few turn on- turn offs of the lock nut sorted that out. The Haynes manual
> says tighten the inner locknut to 50 lb/ft ???? Surely this is nonsense ??.
> I tightened it until the slack was gone, same as you tighten any other
> taper-roller bearing, i.e about hand tight. As far as I can tell the problem
> was due to the drive cog being put on backwards, and scuffing the lock nut.
> I also think the outer locknut came loose. The timken bearings seemed fine,
> so I just repacked them with moly grease, and replaced the seal. If slack
> develops, I can always put in the new bearings later. I'm going to need a
> new drive cog.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:41D48617.CB2D2384@cox.net...
> > I think you'll find the spindle tube broken, that's the only way
> > the spacer would have been forced against. Still not a problem just
> > unbolt and replace it too.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Dave Milne wrote:
> > >
> > > There's a thought. I've a friend that can locate 2 complete waggy axles,
> but
> > > it isn't looking that bad so far :-)
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
 

Well, I rotated the hub while I tightened the inner locknut to ensure it was
seated properly. No play, and a lot less than 50lb/ft on it. The outer
locknut is tightened to 50 lb/ft. as specified.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41D5A900.E94C4C44@cox.net...
> Hi Dave,
> You've got to find whatever pulled the axles and it's spacer back
> against the spindle.
> The fifty pounds is I'm sure, just to make sure any replace bearing
> races are seated, then back off at least a quarter turn, knowing the
> outer nut will take up about half that.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
 

Well, I rotated the hub while I tightened the inner locknut to ensure it was
seated properly. No play, and a lot less than 50lb/ft on it. The outer
locknut is tightened to 50 lb/ft. as specified.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41D5A900.E94C4C44@cox.net...
> Hi Dave,
> You've got to find whatever pulled the axles and it's spacer back
> against the spindle.
> The fifty pounds is I'm sure, just to make sure any replace bearing
> races are seated, then back off at least a quarter turn, knowing the
> outer nut will take up about half that.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
 

Well, I rotated the hub while I tightened the inner locknut to ensure it was
seated properly. No play, and a lot less than 50lb/ft on it. The outer
locknut is tightened to 50 lb/ft. as specified.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41D5A900.E94C4C44@cox.net...
> Hi Dave,
> You've got to find whatever pulled the axles and it's spacer back
> against the spindle.
> The fifty pounds is I'm sure, just to make sure any replace bearing
> races are seated, then back off at least a quarter turn, knowing the
> outer nut will take up about half that.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
 

Hi Dave,
You missed the part about backing off the adjusting nut, so the
bearing may run in grease and not metal to metal.
http://members.cox.net/----------/bearingAdjust.jpg You should be able
to feel about an sixteenth to an eighth of an inch play at the tire's
edge.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Well, I rotated the hub while I tightened the inner locknut to ensure it was
> seated properly. No play, and a lot less than 50lb/ft on it. The outer
> locknut is tightened to 50 lb/ft. as specified.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
 

Hi Dave,
You missed the part about backing off the adjusting nut, so the
bearing may run in grease and not metal to metal.
http://members.cox.net/----------/bearingAdjust.jpg You should be able
to feel about an sixteenth to an eighth of an inch play at the tire's
edge.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Well, I rotated the hub while I tightened the inner locknut to ensure it was
> seated properly. No play, and a lot less than 50lb/ft on it. The outer
> locknut is tightened to 50 lb/ft. as specified.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
 

Hi Dave,
You missed the part about backing off the adjusting nut, so the
bearing may run in grease and not metal to metal.
http://members.cox.net/----------/bearingAdjust.jpg You should be able
to feel about an sixteenth to an eighth of an inch play at the tire's
edge.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Well, I rotated the hub while I tightened the inner locknut to ensure it was
> seated properly. No play, and a lot less than 50lb/ft on it. The outer
> locknut is tightened to 50 lb/ft. as specified.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
 

Many thanks for the link, much better than the Haynes manual. I only backed
it off 1/4 turn, not 1/2.
30lb/ft seems much more like it.

Cheers Bill !

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41D5D5FC.4CE8CD3E@cox.net...
> Hi Dave,
> You missed the part about backing off the adjusting nut, so the
> bearing may run in grease and not metal to metal.
> http://members.cox.net/----------/bearingAdjust.jpg You should be able
> to feel about an sixteenth to an eighth of an inch play at the tire's
> edge.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Well, I rotated the hub while I tightened the inner locknut to ensure it
was
> > seated properly. No play, and a lot less than 50lb/ft on it. The outer
> > locknut is tightened to 50 lb/ft. as specified.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

Re: 91 Wagoneer Wheel bearing replacement problems
 

Many thanks for the link, much better than the Haynes manual. I only backed
it off 1/4 turn, not 1/2.
30lb/ft seems much more like it.

Cheers Bill !

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:41D5D5FC.4CE8CD3E@cox.net...
> Hi Dave,
> You missed the part about backing off the adjusting nut, so the
> bearing may run in grease and not metal to metal.
> http://members.cox.net/----------/bearingAdjust.jpg You should be able
> to feel about an sixteenth to an eighth of an inch play at the tire's
> edge.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Dave Milne wrote:
> >
> > Well, I rotated the hub while I tightened the inner locknut to ensure it
was
> > seated properly. No play, and a lot less than 50lb/ft on it. The outer
> > locknut is tightened to 50 lb/ft. as specified.
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ