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Re: Oh crap still not working
Heh yeah to be honest I was about to trade it in for a Honda, even though
they wouldn't have given me squat for it I was so tired of it. I had to break the salesman's heart today and tell him no thanks and that I got it running and it was good for another 150k miles (hopefully) Troy "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:92177$44f0d81d$48311eaf$2927@FUSE.NET... > See..... good thing can happen ! > > "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message > news:B5-dndKTYvr4SW3ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >> Well either cleaning the sensor really well or pluggin back in the fan or >> both seems to have worked. I just drove it like a bat outta hell and >> parked it, started it, left it there for 30 minutes, started it, left it >> there for an hour, started it. >> >> Now I'll just have to let time tell if its really fixed. Unfortunately >> now with it's track record of leaving me stranded nobody will ride with >> me anymore. >> >> Troy >> >> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message >> news:67ydnb--38GW8nLZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com... >>> OK so I get there and use a good spray cleaner on it, half a can to >>> clean up the mess where the cps was and a little for the plug. I was >>> amazed at how clean it was under there. Everything went shiny. Noticed >>> the wire was a bit close to the exhaust manifold so I arranged it away >>> from everything metal that might hold heat against it. It has a thin >>> tube around the 2 wires, maybe I should put more insulation around it? >>> Drove the 10 miles home and parked it. Came back outside 30 minutes >>> later and it wouldn't crank. I opened the hood and it was pretty hot in >>> the engine compartment, then it hit me about disconnecting the >>> electrical fan because I finally stopped it from overheating. >>> >>> The electrical fan was rigged to run all the time from the previous >>> owner, and realized it blew straight across the exhaust manifold and >>> even the cps sensor wire/area. I let it blow about 10 seconds and it >>> cranked right up. I made a few test runs and it started every time. >>> >>> Either one or both of those helped enough to fix it for today. Tomorrow >>> I will give it a good workout to see if its really fixed. >>> >>> Troy >>> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>> news:44EF0268.51264A1C@sympatico.ca... >>>> The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40 >>>> will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> Troy wrote: >>>>> >>>>> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and >>>>> put it >>>>> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a >>>>> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and >>>>> check it >>>>> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get >>>>> someone >>>>> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I >>>>> can >>>>> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes >>>>> have a >>>>> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not. >>>>> >>>>> Troy >>>>> >>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>>>> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca... >>>>> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The >>>>> > plug >>>>> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only >>>>> > cleans >>>>> > half the connection..... >>>>> > >>>>> > Mike >>>>> > >>>>> > Troy wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it >>>>> >> was >>>>> >> near >>>>> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take >>>>> >> it >>>>> >> off >>>>> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to >>>>> >> it and >>>>> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet >>>>> >> to get >>>>> >> to >>>>> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms >>>>> >> hold it >>>>> >> from >>>>> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how >>>>> >> it >>>>> >> turns >>>>> >> out. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Troy >>>>> >> >>>>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >>>>> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@cox.net... >>>>> >> > Hi Troy, >>>>> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for >>>>> >> > the >>>>> >> > taped adjustment clearance: >>>>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html >>>>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >>>>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Troy wrote: >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my >>>>> >> >> brother's >>>>> >> >> house, >>>>> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just >>>>> >> >> to see >>>>> >> >> if >>>>> >> >> it >>>>> >> >> cranks up. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition >>>>> >> >> control >>>>> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's >>>>> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up >>>>> >> >> was warm >>>>> >> >> all >>>>> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw >>>>> >> >> no >>>>> >> >> spark >>>>> >> >> while cranking. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are: >>>>> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with >>>>> >> >> contact, >>>>> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which >>>>> >> >> failed the >>>>> >> >> test >>>>> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is >>>>> >> >> strong >>>>> >> >> and >>>>> >> >> not >>>>> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it >>>>> >> >> would >>>>> >> >> give >>>>> >> >> and it held strong. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it >>>>> >> >> will >>>>> >> >> crank >>>>> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot >>>>> >> >> and >>>>> >> >> not >>>>> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when >>>>> >> >> I go >>>>> >> >> over >>>>> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and >>>>> >> >> have >>>>> >> >> all >>>>> >> >> my >>>>> >> >> tools out with my multitester. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was >>>>> >> >> considering >>>>> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas >>>>> >> >> but I >>>>> >> >> love >>>>> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going >>>>> >> >> to >>>>> >> >> give >>>>> >> >> it >>>>> >> >> the boot. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 >>>>> >> >> day >>>>> >> >> weekend, >>>>> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end >>>>> >> >> of my >>>>> >> >> rope >>>>> >> >> with this thing. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Troy >>> >>> >> >> > > |
Re: Oh crap still not working
Heh yeah to be honest I was about to trade it in for a Honda, even though
they wouldn't have given me squat for it I was so tired of it. I had to break the salesman's heart today and tell him no thanks and that I got it running and it was good for another 150k miles (hopefully) Troy "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:92177$44f0d81d$48311eaf$2927@FUSE.NET... > See..... good thing can happen ! > > "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message > news:B5-dndKTYvr4SW3ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >> Well either cleaning the sensor really well or pluggin back in the fan or >> both seems to have worked. I just drove it like a bat outta hell and >> parked it, started it, left it there for 30 minutes, started it, left it >> there for an hour, started it. >> >> Now I'll just have to let time tell if its really fixed. Unfortunately >> now with it's track record of leaving me stranded nobody will ride with >> me anymore. >> >> Troy >> >> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message >> news:67ydnb--38GW8nLZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com... >>> OK so I get there and use a good spray cleaner on it, half a can to >>> clean up the mess where the cps was and a little for the plug. I was >>> amazed at how clean it was under there. Everything went shiny. Noticed >>> the wire was a bit close to the exhaust manifold so I arranged it away >>> from everything metal that might hold heat against it. It has a thin >>> tube around the 2 wires, maybe I should put more insulation around it? >>> Drove the 10 miles home and parked it. Came back outside 30 minutes >>> later and it wouldn't crank. I opened the hood and it was pretty hot in >>> the engine compartment, then it hit me about disconnecting the >>> electrical fan because I finally stopped it from overheating. >>> >>> The electrical fan was rigged to run all the time from the previous >>> owner, and realized it blew straight across the exhaust manifold and >>> even the cps sensor wire/area. I let it blow about 10 seconds and it >>> cranked right up. I made a few test runs and it started every time. >>> >>> Either one or both of those helped enough to fix it for today. Tomorrow >>> I will give it a good workout to see if its really fixed. >>> >>> Troy >>> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>> news:44EF0268.51264A1C@sympatico.ca... >>>> The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40 >>>> will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> Troy wrote: >>>>> >>>>> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and >>>>> put it >>>>> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a >>>>> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and >>>>> check it >>>>> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get >>>>> someone >>>>> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I >>>>> can >>>>> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes >>>>> have a >>>>> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not. >>>>> >>>>> Troy >>>>> >>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>>>> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca... >>>>> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The >>>>> > plug >>>>> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only >>>>> > cleans >>>>> > half the connection..... >>>>> > >>>>> > Mike >>>>> > >>>>> > Troy wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it >>>>> >> was >>>>> >> near >>>>> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take >>>>> >> it >>>>> >> off >>>>> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to >>>>> >> it and >>>>> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet >>>>> >> to get >>>>> >> to >>>>> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms >>>>> >> hold it >>>>> >> from >>>>> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how >>>>> >> it >>>>> >> turns >>>>> >> out. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Troy >>>>> >> >>>>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >>>>> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@cox.net... >>>>> >> > Hi Troy, >>>>> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for >>>>> >> > the >>>>> >> > taped adjustment clearance: >>>>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html >>>>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >>>>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Troy wrote: >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my >>>>> >> >> brother's >>>>> >> >> house, >>>>> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just >>>>> >> >> to see >>>>> >> >> if >>>>> >> >> it >>>>> >> >> cranks up. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition >>>>> >> >> control >>>>> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's >>>>> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up >>>>> >> >> was warm >>>>> >> >> all >>>>> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw >>>>> >> >> no >>>>> >> >> spark >>>>> >> >> while cranking. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are: >>>>> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with >>>>> >> >> contact, >>>>> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which >>>>> >> >> failed the >>>>> >> >> test >>>>> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is >>>>> >> >> strong >>>>> >> >> and >>>>> >> >> not >>>>> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it >>>>> >> >> would >>>>> >> >> give >>>>> >> >> and it held strong. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it >>>>> >> >> will >>>>> >> >> crank >>>>> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot >>>>> >> >> and >>>>> >> >> not >>>>> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when >>>>> >> >> I go >>>>> >> >> over >>>>> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and >>>>> >> >> have >>>>> >> >> all >>>>> >> >> my >>>>> >> >> tools out with my multitester. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was >>>>> >> >> considering >>>>> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas >>>>> >> >> but I >>>>> >> >> love >>>>> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going >>>>> >> >> to >>>>> >> >> give >>>>> >> >> it >>>>> >> >> the boot. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 >>>>> >> >> day >>>>> >> >> weekend, >>>>> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end >>>>> >> >> of my >>>>> >> >> rope >>>>> >> >> with this thing. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Troy >>> >>> >> >> > > |
Re: Oh crap still not working
Heh yeah to be honest I was about to trade it in for a Honda, even though
they wouldn't have given me squat for it I was so tired of it. I had to break the salesman's heart today and tell him no thanks and that I got it running and it was good for another 150k miles (hopefully) Troy "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:92177$44f0d81d$48311eaf$2927@FUSE.NET... > See..... good thing can happen ! > > "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message > news:B5-dndKTYvr4SW3ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >> Well either cleaning the sensor really well or pluggin back in the fan or >> both seems to have worked. I just drove it like a bat outta hell and >> parked it, started it, left it there for 30 minutes, started it, left it >> there for an hour, started it. >> >> Now I'll just have to let time tell if its really fixed. Unfortunately >> now with it's track record of leaving me stranded nobody will ride with >> me anymore. >> >> Troy >> >> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message >> news:67ydnb--38GW8nLZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com... >>> OK so I get there and use a good spray cleaner on it, half a can to >>> clean up the mess where the cps was and a little for the plug. I was >>> amazed at how clean it was under there. Everything went shiny. Noticed >>> the wire was a bit close to the exhaust manifold so I arranged it away >>> from everything metal that might hold heat against it. It has a thin >>> tube around the 2 wires, maybe I should put more insulation around it? >>> Drove the 10 miles home and parked it. Came back outside 30 minutes >>> later and it wouldn't crank. I opened the hood and it was pretty hot in >>> the engine compartment, then it hit me about disconnecting the >>> electrical fan because I finally stopped it from overheating. >>> >>> The electrical fan was rigged to run all the time from the previous >>> owner, and realized it blew straight across the exhaust manifold and >>> even the cps sensor wire/area. I let it blow about 10 seconds and it >>> cranked right up. I made a few test runs and it started every time. >>> >>> Either one or both of those helped enough to fix it for today. Tomorrow >>> I will give it a good workout to see if its really fixed. >>> >>> Troy >>> >>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>> news:44EF0268.51264A1C@sympatico.ca... >>>> The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40 >>>> will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> Troy wrote: >>>>> >>>>> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and >>>>> put it >>>>> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a >>>>> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and >>>>> check it >>>>> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get >>>>> someone >>>>> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I >>>>> can >>>>> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes >>>>> have a >>>>> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not. >>>>> >>>>> Troy >>>>> >>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>>>> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca... >>>>> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The >>>>> > plug >>>>> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only >>>>> > cleans >>>>> > half the connection..... >>>>> > >>>>> > Mike >>>>> > >>>>> > Troy wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it >>>>> >> was >>>>> >> near >>>>> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take >>>>> >> it >>>>> >> off >>>>> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to >>>>> >> it and >>>>> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet >>>>> >> to get >>>>> >> to >>>>> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms >>>>> >> hold it >>>>> >> from >>>>> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how >>>>> >> it >>>>> >> turns >>>>> >> out. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Troy >>>>> >> >>>>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >>>>> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@cox.net... >>>>> >> > Hi Troy, >>>>> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for >>>>> >> > the >>>>> >> > taped adjustment clearance: >>>>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html >>>>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >>>>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Troy wrote: >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my >>>>> >> >> brother's >>>>> >> >> house, >>>>> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just >>>>> >> >> to see >>>>> >> >> if >>>>> >> >> it >>>>> >> >> cranks up. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition >>>>> >> >> control >>>>> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's >>>>> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up >>>>> >> >> was warm >>>>> >> >> all >>>>> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw >>>>> >> >> no >>>>> >> >> spark >>>>> >> >> while cranking. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are: >>>>> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with >>>>> >> >> contact, >>>>> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which >>>>> >> >> failed the >>>>> >> >> test >>>>> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is >>>>> >> >> strong >>>>> >> >> and >>>>> >> >> not >>>>> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it >>>>> >> >> would >>>>> >> >> give >>>>> >> >> and it held strong. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it >>>>> >> >> will >>>>> >> >> crank >>>>> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot >>>>> >> >> and >>>>> >> >> not >>>>> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when >>>>> >> >> I go >>>>> >> >> over >>>>> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and >>>>> >> >> have >>>>> >> >> all >>>>> >> >> my >>>>> >> >> tools out with my multitester. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was >>>>> >> >> considering >>>>> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas >>>>> >> >> but I >>>>> >> >> love >>>>> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going >>>>> >> >> to >>>>> >> >> give >>>>> >> >> it >>>>> >> >> the boot. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 >>>>> >> >> day >>>>> >> >> weekend, >>>>> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end >>>>> >> >> of my >>>>> >> >> rope >>>>> >> >> with this thing. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Troy >>> >>> >> >> > > |
Re: Oh crap still not working
I meant that it was good that no one was bothering you for rides but it
running now is good also.....<g> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message news:P4OdncMZ15fPe23ZnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > Heh yeah to be honest I was about to trade it in for a Honda, even though > they wouldn't have given me squat for it I was so tired of it. I had to > break the salesman's heart today and tell him no thanks and that I got it > running and it was good for another 150k miles (hopefully) > > Troy > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > news:92177$44f0d81d$48311eaf$2927@FUSE.NET... >> See..... good thing can happen ! >> >> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message >> news:B5-dndKTYvr4SW3ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >>> Well either cleaning the sensor really well or pluggin back in the fan >>> or both seems to have worked. I just drove it like a bat outta hell and >>> parked it, started it, left it there for 30 minutes, started it, left it >>> there for an hour, started it. >>> >>> Now I'll just have to let time tell if its really fixed. Unfortunately >>> now with it's track record of leaving me stranded nobody will ride with >>> me anymore. >>> >>> Troy >>> >>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message >>> news:67ydnb--38GW8nLZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com... >>>> OK so I get there and use a good spray cleaner on it, half a can to >>>> clean up the mess where the cps was and a little for the plug. I was >>>> amazed at how clean it was under there. Everything went shiny. >>>> Noticed the wire was a bit close to the exhaust manifold so I arranged >>>> it away from everything metal that might hold heat against it. It has >>>> a thin tube around the 2 wires, maybe I should put more insulation >>>> around it? Drove the 10 miles home and parked it. Came back outside 30 >>>> minutes later and it wouldn't crank. I opened the hood and it was >>>> pretty hot in the engine compartment, then it hit me about >>>> disconnecting the electrical fan because I finally stopped it from >>>> overheating. >>>> >>>> The electrical fan was rigged to run all the time from the previous >>>> owner, and realized it blew straight across the exhaust manifold and >>>> even the cps sensor wire/area. I let it blow about 10 seconds and it >>>> cranked right up. I made a few test runs and it started every time. >>>> >>>> Either one or both of those helped enough to fix it for today. >>>> Tomorrow I will give it a good workout to see if its really fixed. >>>> >>>> Troy >>>> >>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>>> news:44EF0268.51264A1C@sympatico.ca... >>>>> The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40 >>>>> will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best. >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> Troy wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and >>>>>> put it >>>>>> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a >>>>>> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and >>>>>> check it >>>>>> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get >>>>>> someone >>>>>> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I >>>>>> can >>>>>> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes >>>>>> have a >>>>>> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not. >>>>>> >>>>>> Troy >>>>>> >>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>>>>> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca... >>>>>> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The >>>>>> > plug >>>>>> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only >>>>>> > cleans >>>>>> > half the connection..... >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Mike >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Troy wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it >>>>>> >> was >>>>>> >> near >>>>>> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll >>>>>> >> take it >>>>>> >> off >>>>>> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to >>>>>> >> it and >>>>>> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet >>>>>> >> to get >>>>>> >> to >>>>>> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms >>>>>> >> hold it >>>>>> >> from >>>>>> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know >>>>>> >> how it >>>>>> >> turns >>>>>> >> out. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Troy >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >>>>>> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@cox.net... >>>>>> >> > Hi Troy, >>>>>> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor >>>>>> >> > for the >>>>>> >> > taped adjustment clearance: >>>>>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html >>>>>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >>>>>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > Troy wrote: >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my >>>>>> >> >> brother's >>>>>> >> >> house, >>>>>> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just >>>>>> >> >> to see >>>>>> >> >> if >>>>>> >> >> it >>>>>> >> >> cranks up. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition >>>>>> >> >> control >>>>>> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the >>>>>> >> >> engine's >>>>>> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up >>>>>> >> >> was warm >>>>>> >> >> all >>>>>> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw >>>>>> >> >> no >>>>>> >> >> spark >>>>>> >> >> while cranking. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are: >>>>>> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with >>>>>> >> >> contact, >>>>>> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which >>>>>> >> >> failed the >>>>>> >> >> test >>>>>> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is >>>>>> >> >> strong >>>>>> >> >> and >>>>>> >> >> not >>>>>> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if >>>>>> >> >> it would >>>>>> >> >> give >>>>>> >> >> and it held strong. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off >>>>>> >> >> it will >>>>>> >> >> crank >>>>>> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting >>>>>> >> >> hot and >>>>>> >> >> not >>>>>> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when >>>>>> >> >> I go >>>>>> >> >> over >>>>>> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and >>>>>> >> >> have >>>>>> >> >> all >>>>>> >> >> my >>>>>> >> >> tools out with my multitester. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was >>>>>> >> >> considering >>>>>> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas >>>>>> >> >> but I >>>>>> >> >> love >>>>>> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going >>>>>> >> >> to >>>>>> >> >> give >>>>>> >> >> it >>>>>> >> >> the boot. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 >>>>>> >> >> day >>>>>> >> >> weekend, >>>>>> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end >>>>>> >> >> of my >>>>>> >> >> rope >>>>>> >> >> with this thing. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> Troy >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |
Re: Oh crap still not working
I meant that it was good that no one was bothering you for rides but it
running now is good also.....<g> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message news:P4OdncMZ15fPe23ZnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > Heh yeah to be honest I was about to trade it in for a Honda, even though > they wouldn't have given me squat for it I was so tired of it. I had to > break the salesman's heart today and tell him no thanks and that I got it > running and it was good for another 150k miles (hopefully) > > Troy > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > news:92177$44f0d81d$48311eaf$2927@FUSE.NET... >> See..... good thing can happen ! >> >> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message >> news:B5-dndKTYvr4SW3ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >>> Well either cleaning the sensor really well or pluggin back in the fan >>> or both seems to have worked. I just drove it like a bat outta hell and >>> parked it, started it, left it there for 30 minutes, started it, left it >>> there for an hour, started it. >>> >>> Now I'll just have to let time tell if its really fixed. Unfortunately >>> now with it's track record of leaving me stranded nobody will ride with >>> me anymore. >>> >>> Troy >>> >>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message >>> news:67ydnb--38GW8nLZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com... >>>> OK so I get there and use a good spray cleaner on it, half a can to >>>> clean up the mess where the cps was and a little for the plug. I was >>>> amazed at how clean it was under there. Everything went shiny. >>>> Noticed the wire was a bit close to the exhaust manifold so I arranged >>>> it away from everything metal that might hold heat against it. It has >>>> a thin tube around the 2 wires, maybe I should put more insulation >>>> around it? Drove the 10 miles home and parked it. Came back outside 30 >>>> minutes later and it wouldn't crank. I opened the hood and it was >>>> pretty hot in the engine compartment, then it hit me about >>>> disconnecting the electrical fan because I finally stopped it from >>>> overheating. >>>> >>>> The electrical fan was rigged to run all the time from the previous >>>> owner, and realized it blew straight across the exhaust manifold and >>>> even the cps sensor wire/area. I let it blow about 10 seconds and it >>>> cranked right up. I made a few test runs and it started every time. >>>> >>>> Either one or both of those helped enough to fix it for today. >>>> Tomorrow I will give it a good workout to see if its really fixed. >>>> >>>> Troy >>>> >>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>>> news:44EF0268.51264A1C@sympatico.ca... >>>>> The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40 >>>>> will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best. >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> Troy wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and >>>>>> put it >>>>>> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a >>>>>> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and >>>>>> check it >>>>>> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get >>>>>> someone >>>>>> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I >>>>>> can >>>>>> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes >>>>>> have a >>>>>> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not. >>>>>> >>>>>> Troy >>>>>> >>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>>>>> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca... >>>>>> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The >>>>>> > plug >>>>>> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only >>>>>> > cleans >>>>>> > half the connection..... >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Mike >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Troy wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it >>>>>> >> was >>>>>> >> near >>>>>> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll >>>>>> >> take it >>>>>> >> off >>>>>> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to >>>>>> >> it and >>>>>> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet >>>>>> >> to get >>>>>> >> to >>>>>> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms >>>>>> >> hold it >>>>>> >> from >>>>>> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know >>>>>> >> how it >>>>>> >> turns >>>>>> >> out. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Troy >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >>>>>> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@cox.net... >>>>>> >> > Hi Troy, >>>>>> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor >>>>>> >> > for the >>>>>> >> > taped adjustment clearance: >>>>>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html >>>>>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >>>>>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > Troy wrote: >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my >>>>>> >> >> brother's >>>>>> >> >> house, >>>>>> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just >>>>>> >> >> to see >>>>>> >> >> if >>>>>> >> >> it >>>>>> >> >> cranks up. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition >>>>>> >> >> control >>>>>> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the >>>>>> >> >> engine's >>>>>> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up >>>>>> >> >> was warm >>>>>> >> >> all >>>>>> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw >>>>>> >> >> no >>>>>> >> >> spark >>>>>> >> >> while cranking. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are: >>>>>> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with >>>>>> >> >> contact, >>>>>> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which >>>>>> >> >> failed the >>>>>> >> >> test >>>>>> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is >>>>>> >> >> strong >>>>>> >> >> and >>>>>> >> >> not >>>>>> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if >>>>>> >> >> it would >>>>>> >> >> give >>>>>> >> >> and it held strong. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off >>>>>> >> >> it will >>>>>> >> >> crank >>>>>> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting >>>>>> >> >> hot and >>>>>> >> >> not >>>>>> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when >>>>>> >> >> I go >>>>>> >> >> over >>>>>> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and >>>>>> >> >> have >>>>>> >> >> all >>>>>> >> >> my >>>>>> >> >> tools out with my multitester. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was >>>>>> >> >> considering >>>>>> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas >>>>>> >> >> but I >>>>>> >> >> love >>>>>> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going >>>>>> >> >> to >>>>>> >> >> give >>>>>> >> >> it >>>>>> >> >> the boot. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 >>>>>> >> >> day >>>>>> >> >> weekend, >>>>>> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end >>>>>> >> >> of my >>>>>> >> >> rope >>>>>> >> >> with this thing. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> Troy >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |
Re: Oh crap still not working
I meant that it was good that no one was bothering you for rides but it
running now is good also.....<g> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message news:P4OdncMZ15fPe23ZnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > Heh yeah to be honest I was about to trade it in for a Honda, even though > they wouldn't have given me squat for it I was so tired of it. I had to > break the salesman's heart today and tell him no thanks and that I got it > running and it was good for another 150k miles (hopefully) > > Troy > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > news:92177$44f0d81d$48311eaf$2927@FUSE.NET... >> See..... good thing can happen ! >> >> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message >> news:B5-dndKTYvr4SW3ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >>> Well either cleaning the sensor really well or pluggin back in the fan >>> or both seems to have worked. I just drove it like a bat outta hell and >>> parked it, started it, left it there for 30 minutes, started it, left it >>> there for an hour, started it. >>> >>> Now I'll just have to let time tell if its really fixed. Unfortunately >>> now with it's track record of leaving me stranded nobody will ride with >>> me anymore. >>> >>> Troy >>> >>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message >>> news:67ydnb--38GW8nLZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com... >>>> OK so I get there and use a good spray cleaner on it, half a can to >>>> clean up the mess where the cps was and a little for the plug. I was >>>> amazed at how clean it was under there. Everything went shiny. >>>> Noticed the wire was a bit close to the exhaust manifold so I arranged >>>> it away from everything metal that might hold heat against it. It has >>>> a thin tube around the 2 wires, maybe I should put more insulation >>>> around it? Drove the 10 miles home and parked it. Came back outside 30 >>>> minutes later and it wouldn't crank. I opened the hood and it was >>>> pretty hot in the engine compartment, then it hit me about >>>> disconnecting the electrical fan because I finally stopped it from >>>> overheating. >>>> >>>> The electrical fan was rigged to run all the time from the previous >>>> owner, and realized it blew straight across the exhaust manifold and >>>> even the cps sensor wire/area. I let it blow about 10 seconds and it >>>> cranked right up. I made a few test runs and it started every time. >>>> >>>> Either one or both of those helped enough to fix it for today. >>>> Tomorrow I will give it a good workout to see if its really fixed. >>>> >>>> Troy >>>> >>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>>> news:44EF0268.51264A1C@sympatico.ca... >>>>> The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40 >>>>> will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best. >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> Troy wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and >>>>>> put it >>>>>> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a >>>>>> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and >>>>>> check it >>>>>> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get >>>>>> someone >>>>>> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I >>>>>> can >>>>>> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes >>>>>> have a >>>>>> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not. >>>>>> >>>>>> Troy >>>>>> >>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>>>>> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca... >>>>>> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The >>>>>> > plug >>>>>> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only >>>>>> > cleans >>>>>> > half the connection..... >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Mike >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Troy wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it >>>>>> >> was >>>>>> >> near >>>>>> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll >>>>>> >> take it >>>>>> >> off >>>>>> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to >>>>>> >> it and >>>>>> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet >>>>>> >> to get >>>>>> >> to >>>>>> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms >>>>>> >> hold it >>>>>> >> from >>>>>> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know >>>>>> >> how it >>>>>> >> turns >>>>>> >> out. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Troy >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >>>>>> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@cox.net... >>>>>> >> > Hi Troy, >>>>>> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor >>>>>> >> > for the >>>>>> >> > taped adjustment clearance: >>>>>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html >>>>>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >>>>>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > Troy wrote: >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my >>>>>> >> >> brother's >>>>>> >> >> house, >>>>>> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just >>>>>> >> >> to see >>>>>> >> >> if >>>>>> >> >> it >>>>>> >> >> cranks up. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition >>>>>> >> >> control >>>>>> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the >>>>>> >> >> engine's >>>>>> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up >>>>>> >> >> was warm >>>>>> >> >> all >>>>>> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw >>>>>> >> >> no >>>>>> >> >> spark >>>>>> >> >> while cranking. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are: >>>>>> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with >>>>>> >> >> contact, >>>>>> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which >>>>>> >> >> failed the >>>>>> >> >> test >>>>>> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is >>>>>> >> >> strong >>>>>> >> >> and >>>>>> >> >> not >>>>>> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if >>>>>> >> >> it would >>>>>> >> >> give >>>>>> >> >> and it held strong. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off >>>>>> >> >> it will >>>>>> >> >> crank >>>>>> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting >>>>>> >> >> hot and >>>>>> >> >> not >>>>>> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when >>>>>> >> >> I go >>>>>> >> >> over >>>>>> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and >>>>>> >> >> have >>>>>> >> >> all >>>>>> >> >> my >>>>>> >> >> tools out with my multitester. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was >>>>>> >> >> considering >>>>>> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas >>>>>> >> >> but I >>>>>> >> >> love >>>>>> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going >>>>>> >> >> to >>>>>> >> >> give >>>>>> >> >> it >>>>>> >> >> the boot. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 >>>>>> >> >> day >>>>>> >> >> weekend, >>>>>> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end >>>>>> >> >> of my >>>>>> >> >> rope >>>>>> >> >> with this thing. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> Troy >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |
Re: Oh crap still not working
I meant that it was good that no one was bothering you for rides but it
running now is good also.....<g> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message news:P4OdncMZ15fPe23ZnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > Heh yeah to be honest I was about to trade it in for a Honda, even though > they wouldn't have given me squat for it I was so tired of it. I had to > break the salesman's heart today and tell him no thanks and that I got it > running and it was good for another 150k miles (hopefully) > > Troy > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message > news:92177$44f0d81d$48311eaf$2927@FUSE.NET... >> See..... good thing can happen ! >> >> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message >> news:B5-dndKTYvr4SW3ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >>> Well either cleaning the sensor really well or pluggin back in the fan >>> or both seems to have worked. I just drove it like a bat outta hell and >>> parked it, started it, left it there for 30 minutes, started it, left it >>> there for an hour, started it. >>> >>> Now I'll just have to let time tell if its really fixed. Unfortunately >>> now with it's track record of leaving me stranded nobody will ride with >>> me anymore. >>> >>> Troy >>> >>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message >>> news:67ydnb--38GW8nLZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com... >>>> OK so I get there and use a good spray cleaner on it, half a can to >>>> clean up the mess where the cps was and a little for the plug. I was >>>> amazed at how clean it was under there. Everything went shiny. >>>> Noticed the wire was a bit close to the exhaust manifold so I arranged >>>> it away from everything metal that might hold heat against it. It has >>>> a thin tube around the 2 wires, maybe I should put more insulation >>>> around it? Drove the 10 miles home and parked it. Came back outside 30 >>>> minutes later and it wouldn't crank. I opened the hood and it was >>>> pretty hot in the engine compartment, then it hit me about >>>> disconnecting the electrical fan because I finally stopped it from >>>> overheating. >>>> >>>> The electrical fan was rigged to run all the time from the previous >>>> owner, and realized it blew straight across the exhaust manifold and >>>> even the cps sensor wire/area. I let it blow about 10 seconds and it >>>> cranked right up. I made a few test runs and it started every time. >>>> >>>> Either one or both of those helped enough to fix it for today. >>>> Tomorrow I will give it a good workout to see if its really fixed. >>>> >>>> Troy >>>> >>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>>> news:44EF0268.51264A1C@sympatico.ca... >>>>> The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40 >>>>> will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best. >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> Troy wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and >>>>>> put it >>>>>> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a >>>>>> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and >>>>>> check it >>>>>> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get >>>>>> someone >>>>>> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I >>>>>> can >>>>>> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes >>>>>> have a >>>>>> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not. >>>>>> >>>>>> Troy >>>>>> >>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>>>>> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca... >>>>>> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The >>>>>> > plug >>>>>> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only >>>>>> > cleans >>>>>> > half the connection..... >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Mike >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Troy wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it >>>>>> >> was >>>>>> >> near >>>>>> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll >>>>>> >> take it >>>>>> >> off >>>>>> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to >>>>>> >> it and >>>>>> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet >>>>>> >> to get >>>>>> >> to >>>>>> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms >>>>>> >> hold it >>>>>> >> from >>>>>> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know >>>>>> >> how it >>>>>> >> turns >>>>>> >> out. >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Troy >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >>>>>> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@cox.net... >>>>>> >> > Hi Troy, >>>>>> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor >>>>>> >> > for the >>>>>> >> > taped adjustment clearance: >>>>>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html >>>>>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >>>>>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> >> > Troy wrote: >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my >>>>>> >> >> brother's >>>>>> >> >> house, >>>>>> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just >>>>>> >> >> to see >>>>>> >> >> if >>>>>> >> >> it >>>>>> >> >> cranks up. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition >>>>>> >> >> control >>>>>> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the >>>>>> >> >> engine's >>>>>> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up >>>>>> >> >> was warm >>>>>> >> >> all >>>>>> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw >>>>>> >> >> no >>>>>> >> >> spark >>>>>> >> >> while cranking. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are: >>>>>> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with >>>>>> >> >> contact, >>>>>> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which >>>>>> >> >> failed the >>>>>> >> >> test >>>>>> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is >>>>>> >> >> strong >>>>>> >> >> and >>>>>> >> >> not >>>>>> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if >>>>>> >> >> it would >>>>>> >> >> give >>>>>> >> >> and it held strong. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off >>>>>> >> >> it will >>>>>> >> >> crank >>>>>> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting >>>>>> >> >> hot and >>>>>> >> >> not >>>>>> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when >>>>>> >> >> I go >>>>>> >> >> over >>>>>> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and >>>>>> >> >> have >>>>>> >> >> all >>>>>> >> >> my >>>>>> >> >> tools out with my multitester. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was >>>>>> >> >> considering >>>>>> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas >>>>>> >> >> but I >>>>>> >> >> love >>>>>> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going >>>>>> >> >> to >>>>>> >> >> give >>>>>> >> >> it >>>>>> >> >> the boot. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 >>>>>> >> >> day >>>>>> >> >> weekend, >>>>>> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end >>>>>> >> >> of my >>>>>> >> >> rope >>>>>> >> >> with this thing. >>>>>> >> >> >>>>>> >> >> Troy >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |
Re: Oh crap still not working
HA!
Troy "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:5ebf3$44f11a12$48311eaf$6035@FUSE.NET... >I meant that it was good that no one was bothering you for rides but it >running now is good also.....<g> > > > > > "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message > news:P4OdncMZ15fPe23ZnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >> Heh yeah to be honest I was about to trade it in for a Honda, even though >> they wouldn't have given me squat for it I was so tired of it. I had to >> break the salesman's heart today and tell him no thanks and that I got it >> running and it was good for another 150k miles (hopefully) >> >> Troy >> >> >> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message >> news:92177$44f0d81d$48311eaf$2927@FUSE.NET... >>> See..... good thing can happen ! >>> >>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message >>> news:B5-dndKTYvr4SW3ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >>>> Well either cleaning the sensor really well or pluggin back in the fan >>>> or both seems to have worked. I just drove it like a bat outta hell >>>> and parked it, started it, left it there for 30 minutes, started it, >>>> left it there for an hour, started it. >>>> >>>> Now I'll just have to let time tell if its really fixed. Unfortunately >>>> now with it's track record of leaving me stranded nobody will ride with >>>> me anymore. >>>> >>>> Troy >>>> >>>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message >>>> news:67ydnb--38GW8nLZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com... >>>>> OK so I get there and use a good spray cleaner on it, half a can to >>>>> clean up the mess where the cps was and a little for the plug. I was >>>>> amazed at how clean it was under there. Everything went shiny. >>>>> Noticed the wire was a bit close to the exhaust manifold so I arranged >>>>> it away from everything metal that might hold heat against it. It has >>>>> a thin tube around the 2 wires, maybe I should put more insulation >>>>> around it? Drove the 10 miles home and parked it. Came back outside >>>>> 30 minutes later and it wouldn't crank. I opened the hood and it was >>>>> pretty hot in the engine compartment, then it hit me about >>>>> disconnecting the electrical fan because I finally stopped it from >>>>> overheating. >>>>> >>>>> The electrical fan was rigged to run all the time from the previous >>>>> owner, and realized it blew straight across the exhaust manifold and >>>>> even the cps sensor wire/area. I let it blow about 10 seconds and it >>>>> cranked right up. I made a few test runs and it started every time. >>>>> >>>>> Either one or both of those helped enough to fix it for today. >>>>> Tomorrow I will give it a good workout to see if its really fixed. >>>>> >>>>> Troy >>>>> >>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>>>> news:44EF0268.51264A1C@sympatico.ca... >>>>>> The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40 >>>>>> will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> Troy wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, >>>>>>> and put it >>>>>>> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a >>>>>>> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and >>>>>>> check it >>>>>>> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get >>>>>>> someone >>>>>>> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes >>>>>>> have a >>>>>>> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Troy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca... >>>>>>> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The >>>>>>> > plug >>>>>>> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only >>>>>>> > cleans >>>>>>> > half the connection..... >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Mike >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Troy wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it >>>>>>> >> was >>>>>>> >> near >>>>>>> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll >>>>>>> >> take it >>>>>>> >> off >>>>>>> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting >>>>>>> >> to it and >>>>>>> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my >>>>>>> >> ratchet to get >>>>>>> >> to >>>>>>> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms >>>>>>> >> hold it >>>>>>> >> from >>>>>>> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know >>>>>>> >> how it >>>>>>> >> turns >>>>>>> >> out. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Troy >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >>>>>>> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@cox.net... >>>>>>> >> > Hi Troy, >>>>>>> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor >>>>>>> >> > for the >>>>>>> >> > taped adjustment clearance: >>>>>>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html >>>>>>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >>>>>>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > Troy wrote: >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my >>>>>>> >> >> brother's >>>>>>> >> >> house, >>>>>>> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just >>>>>>> >> >> to see >>>>>>> >> >> if >>>>>>> >> >> it >>>>>>> >> >> cranks up. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the >>>>>>> >> >> ignition >>>>>>> >> >> control >>>>>>> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the >>>>>>> >> >> engine's >>>>>>> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up >>>>>>> >> >> was warm >>>>>>> >> >> all >>>>>>> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and >>>>>>> >> >> saw no >>>>>>> >> >> spark >>>>>>> >> >> while cranking. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are: >>>>>>> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap >>>>>>> >> >> with >>>>>>> >> >> contact, >>>>>>> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which >>>>>>> >> >> failed the >>>>>>> >> >> test >>>>>>> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is >>>>>>> >> >> strong >>>>>>> >> >> and >>>>>>> >> >> not >>>>>>> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if >>>>>>> >> >> it would >>>>>>> >> >> give >>>>>>> >> >> and it held strong. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off >>>>>>> >> >> it will >>>>>>> >> >> crank >>>>>>> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting >>>>>>> >> >> hot and >>>>>>> >> >> not >>>>>>> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure >>>>>>> >> >> when I go >>>>>>> >> >> over >>>>>>> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home >>>>>>> >> >> and have >>>>>>> >> >> all >>>>>>> >> >> my >>>>>>> >> >> tools out with my multitester. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was >>>>>>> >> >> considering >>>>>>> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas >>>>>>> >> >> but I >>>>>>> >> >> love >>>>>>> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am >>>>>>> >> >> going to >>>>>>> >> >> give >>>>>>> >> >> it >>>>>>> >> >> the boot. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his >>>>>>> >> >> 3 day >>>>>>> >> >> weekend, >>>>>>> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end >>>>>>> >> >> of my >>>>>>> >> >> rope >>>>>>> >> >> with this thing. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> Troy >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |
Re: Oh crap still not working
HA!
Troy "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:5ebf3$44f11a12$48311eaf$6035@FUSE.NET... >I meant that it was good that no one was bothering you for rides but it >running now is good also.....<g> > > > > > "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message > news:P4OdncMZ15fPe23ZnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >> Heh yeah to be honest I was about to trade it in for a Honda, even though >> they wouldn't have given me squat for it I was so tired of it. I had to >> break the salesman's heart today and tell him no thanks and that I got it >> running and it was good for another 150k miles (hopefully) >> >> Troy >> >> >> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message >> news:92177$44f0d81d$48311eaf$2927@FUSE.NET... >>> See..... good thing can happen ! >>> >>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message >>> news:B5-dndKTYvr4SW3ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >>>> Well either cleaning the sensor really well or pluggin back in the fan >>>> or both seems to have worked. I just drove it like a bat outta hell >>>> and parked it, started it, left it there for 30 minutes, started it, >>>> left it there for an hour, started it. >>>> >>>> Now I'll just have to let time tell if its really fixed. Unfortunately >>>> now with it's track record of leaving me stranded nobody will ride with >>>> me anymore. >>>> >>>> Troy >>>> >>>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message >>>> news:67ydnb--38GW8nLZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com... >>>>> OK so I get there and use a good spray cleaner on it, half a can to >>>>> clean up the mess where the cps was and a little for the plug. I was >>>>> amazed at how clean it was under there. Everything went shiny. >>>>> Noticed the wire was a bit close to the exhaust manifold so I arranged >>>>> it away from everything metal that might hold heat against it. It has >>>>> a thin tube around the 2 wires, maybe I should put more insulation >>>>> around it? Drove the 10 miles home and parked it. Came back outside >>>>> 30 minutes later and it wouldn't crank. I opened the hood and it was >>>>> pretty hot in the engine compartment, then it hit me about >>>>> disconnecting the electrical fan because I finally stopped it from >>>>> overheating. >>>>> >>>>> The electrical fan was rigged to run all the time from the previous >>>>> owner, and realized it blew straight across the exhaust manifold and >>>>> even the cps sensor wire/area. I let it blow about 10 seconds and it >>>>> cranked right up. I made a few test runs and it started every time. >>>>> >>>>> Either one or both of those helped enough to fix it for today. >>>>> Tomorrow I will give it a good workout to see if its really fixed. >>>>> >>>>> Troy >>>>> >>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>>>> news:44EF0268.51264A1C@sympatico.ca... >>>>>> The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40 >>>>>> will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> Troy wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, >>>>>>> and put it >>>>>>> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a >>>>>>> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and >>>>>>> check it >>>>>>> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get >>>>>>> someone >>>>>>> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes >>>>>>> have a >>>>>>> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Troy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca... >>>>>>> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The >>>>>>> > plug >>>>>>> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only >>>>>>> > cleans >>>>>>> > half the connection..... >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Mike >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Troy wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it >>>>>>> >> was >>>>>>> >> near >>>>>>> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll >>>>>>> >> take it >>>>>>> >> off >>>>>>> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting >>>>>>> >> to it and >>>>>>> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my >>>>>>> >> ratchet to get >>>>>>> >> to >>>>>>> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms >>>>>>> >> hold it >>>>>>> >> from >>>>>>> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know >>>>>>> >> how it >>>>>>> >> turns >>>>>>> >> out. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Troy >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >>>>>>> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@cox.net... >>>>>>> >> > Hi Troy, >>>>>>> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor >>>>>>> >> > for the >>>>>>> >> > taped adjustment clearance: >>>>>>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html >>>>>>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >>>>>>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > Troy wrote: >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my >>>>>>> >> >> brother's >>>>>>> >> >> house, >>>>>>> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just >>>>>>> >> >> to see >>>>>>> >> >> if >>>>>>> >> >> it >>>>>>> >> >> cranks up. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the >>>>>>> >> >> ignition >>>>>>> >> >> control >>>>>>> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the >>>>>>> >> >> engine's >>>>>>> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up >>>>>>> >> >> was warm >>>>>>> >> >> all >>>>>>> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and >>>>>>> >> >> saw no >>>>>>> >> >> spark >>>>>>> >> >> while cranking. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are: >>>>>>> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap >>>>>>> >> >> with >>>>>>> >> >> contact, >>>>>>> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which >>>>>>> >> >> failed the >>>>>>> >> >> test >>>>>>> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is >>>>>>> >> >> strong >>>>>>> >> >> and >>>>>>> >> >> not >>>>>>> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if >>>>>>> >> >> it would >>>>>>> >> >> give >>>>>>> >> >> and it held strong. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off >>>>>>> >> >> it will >>>>>>> >> >> crank >>>>>>> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting >>>>>>> >> >> hot and >>>>>>> >> >> not >>>>>>> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure >>>>>>> >> >> when I go >>>>>>> >> >> over >>>>>>> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home >>>>>>> >> >> and have >>>>>>> >> >> all >>>>>>> >> >> my >>>>>>> >> >> tools out with my multitester. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was >>>>>>> >> >> considering >>>>>>> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas >>>>>>> >> >> but I >>>>>>> >> >> love >>>>>>> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am >>>>>>> >> >> going to >>>>>>> >> >> give >>>>>>> >> >> it >>>>>>> >> >> the boot. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his >>>>>>> >> >> 3 day >>>>>>> >> >> weekend, >>>>>>> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end >>>>>>> >> >> of my >>>>>>> >> >> rope >>>>>>> >> >> with this thing. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> Troy >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |
Re: Oh crap still not working
HA!
Troy "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:5ebf3$44f11a12$48311eaf$6035@FUSE.NET... >I meant that it was good that no one was bothering you for rides but it >running now is good also.....<g> > > > > > "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message > news:P4OdncMZ15fPe23ZnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@comcast.com. .. >> Heh yeah to be honest I was about to trade it in for a Honda, even though >> they wouldn't have given me squat for it I was so tired of it. I had to >> break the salesman's heart today and tell him no thanks and that I got it >> running and it was good for another 150k miles (hopefully) >> >> Troy >> >> >> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message >> news:92177$44f0d81d$48311eaf$2927@FUSE.NET... >>> See..... good thing can happen ! >>> >>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message >>> news:B5-dndKTYvr4SW3ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >>>> Well either cleaning the sensor really well or pluggin back in the fan >>>> or both seems to have worked. I just drove it like a bat outta hell >>>> and parked it, started it, left it there for 30 minutes, started it, >>>> left it there for an hour, started it. >>>> >>>> Now I'll just have to let time tell if its really fixed. Unfortunately >>>> now with it's track record of leaving me stranded nobody will ride with >>>> me anymore. >>>> >>>> Troy >>>> >>>> "Troy" <@ .> wrote in message >>>> news:67ydnb--38GW8nLZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com... >>>>> OK so I get there and use a good spray cleaner on it, half a can to >>>>> clean up the mess where the cps was and a little for the plug. I was >>>>> amazed at how clean it was under there. Everything went shiny. >>>>> Noticed the wire was a bit close to the exhaust manifold so I arranged >>>>> it away from everything metal that might hold heat against it. It has >>>>> a thin tube around the 2 wires, maybe I should put more insulation >>>>> around it? Drove the 10 miles home and parked it. Came back outside >>>>> 30 minutes later and it wouldn't crank. I opened the hood and it was >>>>> pretty hot in the engine compartment, then it hit me about >>>>> disconnecting the electrical fan because I finally stopped it from >>>>> overheating. >>>>> >>>>> The electrical fan was rigged to run all the time from the previous >>>>> owner, and realized it blew straight across the exhaust manifold and >>>>> even the cps sensor wire/area. I let it blow about 10 seconds and it >>>>> cranked right up. I made a few test runs and it started every time. >>>>> >>>>> Either one or both of those helped enough to fix it for today. >>>>> Tomorrow I will give it a good workout to see if its really fixed. >>>>> >>>>> Troy >>>>> >>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>>>> news:44EF0268.51264A1C@sympatico.ca... >>>>>> The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40 >>>>>> will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> Troy wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, >>>>>>> and put it >>>>>>> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a >>>>>>> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and >>>>>>> check it >>>>>>> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get >>>>>>> someone >>>>>>> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes >>>>>>> have a >>>>>>> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Troy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca... >>>>>>> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The >>>>>>> > plug >>>>>>> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only >>>>>>> > cleans >>>>>>> > half the connection..... >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Mike >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Troy wrote: >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it >>>>>>> >> was >>>>>>> >> near >>>>>>> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll >>>>>>> >> take it >>>>>>> >> off >>>>>>> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting >>>>>>> >> to it and >>>>>>> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my >>>>>>> >> ratchet to get >>>>>>> >> to >>>>>>> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms >>>>>>> >> hold it >>>>>>> >> from >>>>>>> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know >>>>>>> >> how it >>>>>>> >> turns >>>>>>> >> out. >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Troy >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >>>>>>> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@cox.net... >>>>>>> >> > Hi Troy, >>>>>>> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor >>>>>>> >> > for the >>>>>>> >> > taped adjustment clearance: >>>>>>> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html >>>>>>> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >>>>>>> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > Troy wrote: >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my >>>>>>> >> >> brother's >>>>>>> >> >> house, >>>>>>> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just >>>>>>> >> >> to see >>>>>>> >> >> if >>>>>>> >> >> it >>>>>>> >> >> cranks up. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the >>>>>>> >> >> ignition >>>>>>> >> >> control >>>>>>> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the >>>>>>> >> >> engine's >>>>>>> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up >>>>>>> >> >> was warm >>>>>>> >> >> all >>>>>>> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and >>>>>>> >> >> saw no >>>>>>> >> >> spark >>>>>>> >> >> while cranking. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are: >>>>>>> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap >>>>>>> >> >> with >>>>>>> >> >> contact, >>>>>>> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which >>>>>>> >> >> failed the >>>>>>> >> >> test >>>>>>> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is >>>>>>> >> >> strong >>>>>>> >> >> and >>>>>>> >> >> not >>>>>>> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if >>>>>>> >> >> it would >>>>>>> >> >> give >>>>>>> >> >> and it held strong. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off >>>>>>> >> >> it will >>>>>>> >> >> crank >>>>>>> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting >>>>>>> >> >> hot and >>>>>>> >> >> not >>>>>>> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure >>>>>>> >> >> when I go >>>>>>> >> >> over >>>>>>> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home >>>>>>> >> >> and have >>>>>>> >> >> all >>>>>>> >> >> my >>>>>>> >> >> tools out with my multitester. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was >>>>>>> >> >> considering >>>>>>> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas >>>>>>> >> >> but I >>>>>>> >> >> love >>>>>>> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am >>>>>>> >> >> going to >>>>>>> >> >> give >>>>>>> >> >> it >>>>>>> >> >> the boot. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his >>>>>>> >> >> 3 day >>>>>>> >> >> weekend, >>>>>>> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end >>>>>>> >> >> of my >>>>>>> >> >> rope >>>>>>> >> >> with this thing. >>>>>>> >> >> >>>>>>> >> >> Troy >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > |
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