Oh crap still not working
 

Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.

After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's house,
10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see if it
cranks up.

The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition control
module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm all
over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no spark
while cranking.

To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with contact,
ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the test
at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong and not
rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would give
and it held strong.

When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will crank
up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and not
giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go over
there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have all my
tools out with my multitester.

Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was considering
buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I love
this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to give it
the boot.

I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day weekend,
but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my rope
with this thing.

Troy

Re: Oh crap still not working
 

Mike Romain, I found something you posted in 2000, could this relate to my
problem even though it's an automatic and the other guy's was a stick? I'm
also thinking of replacing that ground strap in any case, I have found an
extra in my toolbox, must be magic

Troy

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...2e67902584c0de

>That sounds to me like a bad starting circuit.

>With the key in the start position and the starter cranking, the coil gets
>it's positive power from the starter solenoid.


>With the key in the run position, the coil gets it's positive power from
>the ballast resistor circuit.


>I would clean the connections on the starter solenoid first.


>Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail 88 Cherokee 235
>AT's

Re: Oh crap still not working
 

Mike Romain, I found something you posted in 2000, could this relate to my
problem even though it's an automatic and the other guy's was a stick? I'm
also thinking of replacing that ground strap in any case, I have found an
extra in my toolbox, must be magic

Troy

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...2e67902584c0de

>That sounds to me like a bad starting circuit.

>With the key in the start position and the starter cranking, the coil gets
>it's positive power from the starter solenoid.


>With the key in the run position, the coil gets it's positive power from
>the ballast resistor circuit.


>I would clean the connections on the starter solenoid first.


>Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail 88 Cherokee 235
>AT's

Re: Oh crap still not working
 

Mike Romain, I found something you posted in 2000, could this relate to my
problem even though it's an automatic and the other guy's was a stick? I'm
also thinking of replacing that ground strap in any case, I have found an
extra in my toolbox, must be magic

Troy

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...2e67902584c0de

>That sounds to me like a bad starting circuit.

>With the key in the start position and the starter cranking, the coil gets
>it's positive power from the starter solenoid.


>With the key in the run position, the coil gets it's positive power from
>the ballast resistor circuit.


>I would clean the connections on the starter solenoid first.


>Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail 88 Cherokee 235
>AT's

Re: Oh crap still not working
 

Mike Romain, I found something you posted in 2000, could this relate to my
problem even though it's an automatic and the other guy's was a stick? I'm
also thinking of replacing that ground strap in any case, I have found an
extra in my toolbox, must be magic

Troy

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...2e67902584c0de

>That sounds to me like a bad starting circuit.

>With the key in the start position and the starter cranking, the coil gets
>it's positive power from the starter solenoid.


>With the key in the run position, the coil gets it's positive power from
>the ballast resistor circuit.


>I would clean the connections on the starter solenoid first.


>Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail 88 Cherokee 235
>AT's

Re: Oh crap still not working
 

Hi Troy,
I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the
taped adjustment clearance:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Troy wrote:
>
> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>
> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's house,
> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see if it
> cranks up.
>
> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition control
> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm all
> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no spark
> while cranking.
>
> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with contact,
> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the test
> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong and not
> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would give
> and it held strong.
>
> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will crank
> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and not
> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go over
> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have all my
> tools out with my multitester.
>
> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was considering
> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I love
> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to give it
> the boot.
>
> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day weekend,
> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my rope
> with this thing.
>
> Troy

Re: Oh crap still not working
 

Hi Troy,
I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the
taped adjustment clearance:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Troy wrote:
>
> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>
> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's house,
> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see if it
> cranks up.
>
> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition control
> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm all
> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no spark
> while cranking.
>
> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with contact,
> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the test
> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong and not
> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would give
> and it held strong.
>
> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will crank
> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and not
> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go over
> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have all my
> tools out with my multitester.
>
> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was considering
> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I love
> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to give it
> the boot.
>
> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day weekend,
> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my rope
> with this thing.
>
> Troy

Re: Oh crap still not working
 

Hi Troy,
I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the
taped adjustment clearance:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Troy wrote:
>
> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>
> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's house,
> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see if it
> cranks up.
>
> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition control
> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm all
> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no spark
> while cranking.
>
> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with contact,
> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the test
> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong and not
> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would give
> and it held strong.
>
> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will crank
> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and not
> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go over
> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have all my
> tools out with my multitester.
>
> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was considering
> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I love
> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to give it
> the boot.
>
> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day weekend,
> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my rope
> with this thing.
>
> Troy

Re: Oh crap still not working
 

Hi Troy,
I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the
taped adjustment clearance:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Troy wrote:
>
> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>
> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's house,
> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see if it
> cranks up.
>
> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition control
> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm all
> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no spark
> while cranking.
>
> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with contact,
> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the test
> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong and not
> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would give
> and it held strong.
>
> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will crank
> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and not
> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go over
> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have all my
> tools out with my multitester.
>
> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was considering
> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I love
> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to give it
> the boot.
>
> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day weekend,
> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my rope
> with this thing.
>
> Troy

Re: Oh crap still not working
 

Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was near
there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it off
tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and
had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get to
it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it from
the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it turns
out.

Troy


"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:44EE9703.26DCF71@cox.net...
> Hi Troy,
> I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the
> taped adjustment clearance:
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Troy wrote:
>>
>> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed.
>>
>> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's
>> house,
>> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see if
>> it
>> cranks up.
>>
>> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition control
>> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's
>> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm
>> all
>> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no spark
>> while cranking.
>>
>> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are:
>> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with contact,
>> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the
>> test
>> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong and
>> not
>> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would
>> give
>> and it held strong.
>>
>> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will
>> crank
>> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and not
>> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go over
>> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have all
>> my
>> tools out with my multitester.
>>
>> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was
>> considering
>> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I love
>> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to give
>> it
>> the boot.
>>
>> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day
>> weekend,
>> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my rope
>> with this thing.
>>
>> Troy