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Re: Oh crap still not working
The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40
will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best. Mike Troy wrote: > > So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and put it > back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a > multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and check it > out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get someone > to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I can > remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes have a > very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not. > > Troy > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca... > > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug > > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans > > half the connection..... > > > > Mike > > > > Troy wrote: > >> > >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was > >> near > >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it > >> off > >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and > >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get > >> to > >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it > >> from > >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it > >> turns > >> out. > >> > >> Troy > >> > >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@cox.net... > >> > Hi Troy, > >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the > >> > taped adjustment clearance: > >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html > >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > >> > > >> > Troy wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed. > >> >> > >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's > >> >> house, > >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see > >> >> if > >> >> it > >> >> cranks up. > >> >> > >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition > >> >> control > >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's > >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm > >> >> all > >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no > >> >> spark > >> >> while cranking. > >> >> > >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are: > >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with > >> >> contact, > >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the > >> >> test > >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong > >> >> and > >> >> not > >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would > >> >> give > >> >> and it held strong. > >> >> > >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will > >> >> crank > >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and > >> >> not > >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go > >> >> over > >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have > >> >> all > >> >> my > >> >> tools out with my multitester. > >> >> > >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was > >> >> considering > >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I > >> >> love > >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to > >> >> give > >> >> it > >> >> the boot. > >> >> > >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day > >> >> weekend, > >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my > >> >> rope > >> >> with this thing. > >> >> > >> >> Troy |
Re: Oh crap still not working
The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40
will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best. Mike Troy wrote: > > So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and put it > back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a > multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and check it > out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get someone > to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I can > remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes have a > very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not. > > Troy > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca... > > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug > > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans > > half the connection..... > > > > Mike > > > > Troy wrote: > >> > >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was > >> near > >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it > >> off > >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and > >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get > >> to > >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it > >> from > >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it > >> turns > >> out. > >> > >> Troy > >> > >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@cox.net... > >> > Hi Troy, > >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the > >> > taped adjustment clearance: > >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html > >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > >> > > >> > Troy wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed. > >> >> > >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's > >> >> house, > >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see > >> >> if > >> >> it > >> >> cranks up. > >> >> > >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition > >> >> control > >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's > >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm > >> >> all > >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no > >> >> spark > >> >> while cranking. > >> >> > >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are: > >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with > >> >> contact, > >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the > >> >> test > >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong > >> >> and > >> >> not > >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would > >> >> give > >> >> and it held strong. > >> >> > >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will > >> >> crank > >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and > >> >> not > >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go > >> >> over > >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have > >> >> all > >> >> my > >> >> tools out with my multitester. > >> >> > >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was > >> >> considering > >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I > >> >> love > >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to > >> >> give > >> >> it > >> >> the boot. > >> >> > >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day > >> >> weekend, > >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my > >> >> rope > >> >> with this thing. > >> >> > >> >> Troy |
Re: Oh crap still not working
The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40
will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best. Mike Troy wrote: > > So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and put it > back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a > multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and check it > out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get someone > to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I can > remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes have a > very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not. > > Troy > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca... > > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug > > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans > > half the connection..... > > > > Mike > > > > Troy wrote: > >> > >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was > >> near > >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it > >> off > >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and > >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get > >> to > >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it > >> from > >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it > >> turns > >> out. > >> > >> Troy > >> > >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@cox.net... > >> > Hi Troy, > >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the > >> > taped adjustment clearance: > >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html > >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > >> > > >> > Troy wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed. > >> >> > >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's > >> >> house, > >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see > >> >> if > >> >> it > >> >> cranks up. > >> >> > >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition > >> >> control > >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's > >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm > >> >> all > >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no > >> >> spark > >> >> while cranking. > >> >> > >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are: > >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with > >> >> contact, > >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the > >> >> test > >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong > >> >> and > >> >> not > >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would > >> >> give > >> >> and it held strong. > >> >> > >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will > >> >> crank > >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and > >> >> not > >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go > >> >> over > >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have > >> >> all > >> >> my > >> >> tools out with my multitester. > >> >> > >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was > >> >> considering > >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I > >> >> love > >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to > >> >> give > >> >> it > >> >> the boot. > >> >> > >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day > >> >> weekend, > >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my > >> >> rope > >> >> with this thing. > >> >> > >> >> Troy |
Re: Oh crap still not working
Shouldn't hurt.
That connection on the starter relay on the fender is easy to clean too. Mike Troy wrote: > > Oops, forgot to add: > > Since it is all grimey down there, would I damage anything by hosing it all > off with degreaser before I start working on it again? I mean spraying > directly from the top onto the sensor itself, would the degreaser mess up > the tranny if it goes through the hole? > > Troy > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca... > > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug > > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans > > half the connection..... > > > > Mike > > > > Troy wrote: > >> > >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was > >> near > >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it > >> off > >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and > >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get > >> to > >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it > >> from > >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it > >> turns > >> out. > >> > >> Troy > >> > >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@cox.net... > >> > Hi Troy, > >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the > >> > taped adjustment clearance: > >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html > >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > >> > > >> > Troy wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed. > >> >> > >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's > >> >> house, > >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see > >> >> if > >> >> it > >> >> cranks up. > >> >> > >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition > >> >> control > >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's > >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm > >> >> all > >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no > >> >> spark > >> >> while cranking. > >> >> > >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are: > >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with > >> >> contact, > >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the > >> >> test > >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong > >> >> and > >> >> not > >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would > >> >> give > >> >> and it held strong. > >> >> > >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will > >> >> crank > >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and > >> >> not > >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go > >> >> over > >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have > >> >> all > >> >> my > >> >> tools out with my multitester. > >> >> > >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was > >> >> considering > >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I > >> >> love > >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to > >> >> give > >> >> it > >> >> the boot. > >> >> > >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day > >> >> weekend, > >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my > >> >> rope > >> >> with this thing. > >> >> > >> >> Troy |
Re: Oh crap still not working
Shouldn't hurt.
That connection on the starter relay on the fender is easy to clean too. Mike Troy wrote: > > Oops, forgot to add: > > Since it is all grimey down there, would I damage anything by hosing it all > off with degreaser before I start working on it again? I mean spraying > directly from the top onto the sensor itself, would the degreaser mess up > the tranny if it goes through the hole? > > Troy > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca... > > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug > > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans > > half the connection..... > > > > Mike > > > > Troy wrote: > >> > >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was > >> near > >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it > >> off > >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and > >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get > >> to > >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it > >> from > >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it > >> turns > >> out. > >> > >> Troy > >> > >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@cox.net... > >> > Hi Troy, > >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the > >> > taped adjustment clearance: > >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html > >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > >> > > >> > Troy wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed. > >> >> > >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's > >> >> house, > >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see > >> >> if > >> >> it > >> >> cranks up. > >> >> > >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition > >> >> control > >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's > >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm > >> >> all > >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no > >> >> spark > >> >> while cranking. > >> >> > >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are: > >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with > >> >> contact, > >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the > >> >> test > >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong > >> >> and > >> >> not > >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would > >> >> give > >> >> and it held strong. > >> >> > >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will > >> >> crank > >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and > >> >> not > >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go > >> >> over > >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have > >> >> all > >> >> my > >> >> tools out with my multitester. > >> >> > >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was > >> >> considering > >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I > >> >> love > >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to > >> >> give > >> >> it > >> >> the boot. > >> >> > >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day > >> >> weekend, > >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my > >> >> rope > >> >> with this thing. > >> >> > >> >> Troy |
Re: Oh crap still not working
Shouldn't hurt.
That connection on the starter relay on the fender is easy to clean too. Mike Troy wrote: > > Oops, forgot to add: > > Since it is all grimey down there, would I damage anything by hosing it all > off with degreaser before I start working on it again? I mean spraying > directly from the top onto the sensor itself, would the degreaser mess up > the tranny if it goes through the hole? > > Troy > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca... > > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug > > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans > > half the connection..... > > > > Mike > > > > Troy wrote: > >> > >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was > >> near > >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it > >> off > >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and > >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get > >> to > >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it > >> from > >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it > >> turns > >> out. > >> > >> Troy > >> > >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@cox.net... > >> > Hi Troy, > >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the > >> > taped adjustment clearance: > >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html > >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > >> > > >> > Troy wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed. > >> >> > >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's > >> >> house, > >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see > >> >> if > >> >> it > >> >> cranks up. > >> >> > >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition > >> >> control > >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's > >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm > >> >> all > >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no > >> >> spark > >> >> while cranking. > >> >> > >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are: > >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with > >> >> contact, > >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the > >> >> test > >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong > >> >> and > >> >> not > >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would > >> >> give > >> >> and it held strong. > >> >> > >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will > >> >> crank > >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and > >> >> not > >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go > >> >> over > >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have > >> >> all > >> >> my > >> >> tools out with my multitester. > >> >> > >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was > >> >> considering > >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I > >> >> love > >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to > >> >> give > >> >> it > >> >> the boot. > >> >> > >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day > >> >> weekend, > >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my > >> >> rope > >> >> with this thing. > >> >> > >> >> Troy |
Re: Oh crap still not working
Shouldn't hurt.
That connection on the starter relay on the fender is easy to clean too. Mike Troy wrote: > > Oops, forgot to add: > > Since it is all grimey down there, would I damage anything by hosing it all > off with degreaser before I start working on it again? I mean spraying > directly from the top onto the sensor itself, would the degreaser mess up > the tranny if it goes through the hole? > > Troy > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca... > > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug > > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans > > half the connection..... > > > > Mike > > > > Troy wrote: > >> > >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was > >> near > >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it > >> off > >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it and > >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to get > >> to > >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold it > >> from > >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it > >> turns > >> out. > >> > >> Troy > >> > >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message > >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@cox.net... > >> > Hi Troy, > >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for the > >> > taped adjustment clearance: > >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html > >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > >> > > >> > Troy wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed. > >> >> > >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my brother's > >> >> house, > >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to see > >> >> if > >> >> it > >> >> cranks up. > >> >> > >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition > >> >> control > >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's > >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was warm > >> >> all > >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no > >> >> spark > >> >> while cranking. > >> >> > >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are: > >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with > >> >> contact, > >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed the > >> >> test > >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is strong > >> >> and > >> >> not > >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it would > >> >> give > >> >> and it held strong. > >> >> > >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it will > >> >> crank > >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot and > >> >> not > >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I go > >> >> over > >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and have > >> >> all > >> >> my > >> >> tools out with my multitester. > >> >> > >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was > >> >> considering > >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I > >> >> love > >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to > >> >> give > >> >> it > >> >> the boot. > >> >> > >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day > >> >> weekend, > >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of my > >> >> rope > >> >> with this thing. > >> >> > >> >> Troy |
Re: Oh crap still not working
OK so I get there and use a good spray cleaner on it, half a can to clean up
the mess where the cps was and a little for the plug. I was amazed at how clean it was under there. Everything went shiny. Noticed the wire was a bit close to the exhaust manifold so I arranged it away from everything metal that might hold heat against it. It has a thin tube around the 2 wires, maybe I should put more insulation around it? Drove the 10 miles home and parked it. Came back outside 30 minutes later and it wouldn't crank. I opened the hood and it was pretty hot in the engine compartment, then it hit me about disconnecting the electrical fan because I finally stopped it from overheating. The electrical fan was rigged to run all the time from the previous owner, and realized it blew straight across the exhaust manifold and even the cps sensor wire/area. I let it blow about 10 seconds and it cranked right up. I made a few test runs and it started every time. Either one or both of those helped enough to fix it for today. Tomorrow I will give it a good workout to see if its really fixed. Troy "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:44EF0268.51264A1C@sympatico.ca... > The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40 > will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best. > > Mike > > Troy wrote: >> >> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and put >> it >> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a >> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and check >> it >> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get >> someone >> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I can >> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes have >> a >> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not. >> >> Troy >> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca... >> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug >> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans >> > half the connection..... >> > >> > Mike >> > >> > Troy wrote: >> >> >> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was >> >> near >> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it >> >> off >> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it >> >> and >> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to >> >> get >> >> to >> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold >> >> it >> >> from >> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it >> >> turns >> >> out. >> >> >> >> Troy >> >> >> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@cox.net... >> >> > Hi Troy, >> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for >> >> > the >> >> > taped adjustment clearance: >> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html >> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >> >> > >> >> > Troy wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed. >> >> >> >> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my >> >> >> brother's >> >> >> house, >> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to >> >> >> see >> >> >> if >> >> >> it >> >> >> cranks up. >> >> >> >> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition >> >> >> control >> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's >> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was >> >> >> warm >> >> >> all >> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no >> >> >> spark >> >> >> while cranking. >> >> >> >> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are: >> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with >> >> >> contact, >> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed >> >> >> the >> >> >> test >> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is >> >> >> strong >> >> >> and >> >> >> not >> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it >> >> >> would >> >> >> give >> >> >> and it held strong. >> >> >> >> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it >> >> >> will >> >> >> crank >> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot >> >> >> and >> >> >> not >> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I >> >> >> go >> >> >> over >> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and >> >> >> have >> >> >> all >> >> >> my >> >> >> tools out with my multitester. >> >> >> >> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was >> >> >> considering >> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I >> >> >> love >> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to >> >> >> give >> >> >> it >> >> >> the boot. >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day >> >> >> weekend, >> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of >> >> >> my >> >> >> rope >> >> >> with this thing. >> >> >> >> >> >> Troy |
Re: Oh crap still not working
OK so I get there and use a good spray cleaner on it, half a can to clean up
the mess where the cps was and a little for the plug. I was amazed at how clean it was under there. Everything went shiny. Noticed the wire was a bit close to the exhaust manifold so I arranged it away from everything metal that might hold heat against it. It has a thin tube around the 2 wires, maybe I should put more insulation around it? Drove the 10 miles home and parked it. Came back outside 30 minutes later and it wouldn't crank. I opened the hood and it was pretty hot in the engine compartment, then it hit me about disconnecting the electrical fan because I finally stopped it from overheating. The electrical fan was rigged to run all the time from the previous owner, and realized it blew straight across the exhaust manifold and even the cps sensor wire/area. I let it blow about 10 seconds and it cranked right up. I made a few test runs and it started every time. Either one or both of those helped enough to fix it for today. Tomorrow I will give it a good workout to see if its really fixed. Troy "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:44EF0268.51264A1C@sympatico.ca... > The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40 > will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best. > > Mike > > Troy wrote: >> >> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and put >> it >> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a >> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and check >> it >> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get >> someone >> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I can >> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes have >> a >> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not. >> >> Troy >> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca... >> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug >> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans >> > half the connection..... >> > >> > Mike >> > >> > Troy wrote: >> >> >> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was >> >> near >> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it >> >> off >> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it >> >> and >> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to >> >> get >> >> to >> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold >> >> it >> >> from >> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it >> >> turns >> >> out. >> >> >> >> Troy >> >> >> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@cox.net... >> >> > Hi Troy, >> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for >> >> > the >> >> > taped adjustment clearance: >> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html >> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >> >> > >> >> > Troy wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed. >> >> >> >> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my >> >> >> brother's >> >> >> house, >> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to >> >> >> see >> >> >> if >> >> >> it >> >> >> cranks up. >> >> >> >> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition >> >> >> control >> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's >> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was >> >> >> warm >> >> >> all >> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no >> >> >> spark >> >> >> while cranking. >> >> >> >> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are: >> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with >> >> >> contact, >> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed >> >> >> the >> >> >> test >> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is >> >> >> strong >> >> >> and >> >> >> not >> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it >> >> >> would >> >> >> give >> >> >> and it held strong. >> >> >> >> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it >> >> >> will >> >> >> crank >> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot >> >> >> and >> >> >> not >> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I >> >> >> go >> >> >> over >> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and >> >> >> have >> >> >> all >> >> >> my >> >> >> tools out with my multitester. >> >> >> >> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was >> >> >> considering >> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I >> >> >> love >> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to >> >> >> give >> >> >> it >> >> >> the boot. >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day >> >> >> weekend, >> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of >> >> >> my >> >> >> rope >> >> >> with this thing. >> >> >> >> >> >> Troy |
Re: Oh crap still not working
OK so I get there and use a good spray cleaner on it, half a can to clean up
the mess where the cps was and a little for the plug. I was amazed at how clean it was under there. Everything went shiny. Noticed the wire was a bit close to the exhaust manifold so I arranged it away from everything metal that might hold heat against it. It has a thin tube around the 2 wires, maybe I should put more insulation around it? Drove the 10 miles home and parked it. Came back outside 30 minutes later and it wouldn't crank. I opened the hood and it was pretty hot in the engine compartment, then it hit me about disconnecting the electrical fan because I finally stopped it from overheating. The electrical fan was rigged to run all the time from the previous owner, and realized it blew straight across the exhaust manifold and even the cps sensor wire/area. I let it blow about 10 seconds and it cranked right up. I made a few test runs and it started every time. Either one or both of those helped enough to fix it for today. Tomorrow I will give it a good workout to see if its really fixed. Troy "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:44EF0268.51264A1C@sympatico.ca... > The connection can be cleaned from above without taking it off. WD40 > will work in a pinch, but a real spray contact cleaner is best. > > Mike > > Troy wrote: >> >> So I should take it off, thoroughly clean everything, everywhere, and put >> it >> back on? If it was damaged, isn't there a way to test it using a >> multitester? I'm going to leave here in 30 minutes to go over and check >> it >> out, but may have to leave it there for a few hours until I can get >> someone >> to take me back to drop me off so I can drive it home. From what I can >> remember it isn't adjustable like you said, but maybe the bolt holes have >> a >> very small amount of leeway I can use, but then again maybe not. >> >> Troy >> >> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message >> news:44EEFB21.5D6F98FF@sympatico.ca... >> > Yours is like mine with 2 bolts and no adjustment I believe. The plug >> > 'and' socket get dirty and they fail. Putting a new CPS in only cleans >> > half the connection..... >> > >> > Mike >> > >> > Troy wrote: >> >> >> >> Ya know in the back of my mind I was thinking about how grimey it was >> >> near >> >> there and if I maybe got some nasty stuff on it. I think I'll take it >> >> off >> >> tomorrow and check it out. I just had a hell of a time getting to it >> >> and >> >> had to buy a couple of 10 inch extensions and elbow for my ratchet to >> >> get >> >> to >> >> it from the bottom, while having my girlfriend with skinny arms hold >> >> it >> >> from >> >> the top. Maybe I could be adjusted a tad. I'll let ya'll know how it >> >> turns >> >> out. >> >> >> >> Troy >> >> >> >> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message >> >> news:44EE9703.26DCF71@cox.net... >> >> > Hi Troy, >> >> > I think you should recheck your Crankcase Position Sensor for >> >> > the >> >> > taped adjustment clearance: >> >> > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/cheroke...tdcsensor.html >> >> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O >> >> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ >> >> > >> >> > Troy wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Well now this has certainly gotten me pissed. >> >> >> >> >> >> After I replaced the control module I took the drive to my >> >> >> brother's >> >> >> house, >> >> >> 10 miles. I was inside for about 45 minutes and came out just to >> >> >> see >> >> >> if >> >> >> it >> >> >> cranks up. >> >> >> >> >> >> The thing was acting like it was before I replaced the ignition >> >> >> control >> >> >> module, crank but no start. By this time I imagine the engine's >> >> >> compartment, due to not moving and being thoroughly heated up was >> >> >> warm >> >> >> all >> >> >> over. I disconnected the spark plug wire from the coil and saw no >> >> >> spark >> >> >> while cranking. >> >> >> >> >> >> To recap, the parts I have already replaced are: >> >> >> CPS sensor, spark plugs, spark plug wires, distributor cap with >> >> >> contact, >> >> >> ignition coil, and today the ignition control module, which failed >> >> >> the >> >> >> test >> >> >> at autozone. The ground strap from the engine to the body is >> >> >> strong >> >> >> and >> >> >> not >> >> >> rusted. I was so mad I was yanking on it hard even to see if it >> >> >> would >> >> >> give >> >> >> and it held strong. >> >> >> >> >> >> When I make a trip like this, after I park it and turn it off it >> >> >> will >> >> >> crank >> >> >> up again, its just if I let it sit something must be getting hot >> >> >> and >> >> >> not >> >> >> giving me spark. Right now it's at his house and I'm sure when I >> >> >> go >> >> >> over >> >> >> there in the morning it will crank up for me to get it home and >> >> >> have >> >> >> all >> >> >> my >> >> >> tools out with my multitester. >> >> >> >> >> >> Now, does anyone have any advice n such for this thing? I was >> >> >> considering >> >> >> buying a honda as a daily driver as it would be easier on gas but I >> >> >> love >> >> >> this crappy xj however if it keeps giving me trouble I am going to >> >> >> give >> >> >> it >> >> >> the boot. >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm gonna bug my neighbor about it when he gets home from his 3 day >> >> >> weekend, >> >> >> but it would be awesome to fix it myself. I'm just at the end of >> >> >> my >> >> >> rope >> >> >> with this thing. >> >> >> >> >> >> Troy |
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