'86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
05-25-2006, 11:44 PM
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Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
We a agree to disagree.
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Earle Horton wrote:
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> Bill,
>
> Cheapass gasoline causes pinging under load, not dieseling.
>
> Earle
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Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Cheapass gasoline causes pinging under load, not dieseling.
>
> Earle
05-25-2006, 11:44 PM
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Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
We a agree to disagree.
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Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Cheapass gasoline causes pinging under load, not dieseling.
>
> Earle
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Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Cheapass gasoline causes pinging under load, not dieseling.
>
> Earle
05-25-2006, 11:44 PM
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Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
We a agree to disagree.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Cheapass gasoline causes pinging under load, not dieseling.
>
> Earle
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Cheapass gasoline causes pinging under load, not dieseling.
>
> Earle
05-26-2006, 01:37 AM
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Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
"Dieseling" as yours sounds like it is doing is often caused by a
build-up of carbon inside the combustion chambers. The carbon continues
to glow after the last combustion stroke which propels the engine in
another rotation again, which with a mechanical fuel pump keeps the fuel
going. Then the glowing carbon re-ignites the fuel mixture in place of
the spark plug again.
The cure, if this is the problem and it sounds like it is, is to get rid
of the carbon build-up. The easiest way to do this is to slowly (!!)
feed 12-16 ounces of plain water into the air intake as the engine is
running, keeping the RPMs up slightly. NO, this will NOT cause
hydrolock providing you feed the water in slowly and in a controlled
manner over a minute to two minutes. Just slowly trickle it and
maintain control over the water so you don't dump it in too quickly by
accident.
The water will scavenge the carbon deposits and though it may take more
than one treatment, this will leave the combustion chambers clean as a
whistle. No I didn't just make this up, this technique has been used at
least from the thirties or forties to get rid of carbon. The water
creates mini shock-waves that act to break the carbon up so it can be
ejected through the exhaust system.
Try it.
Jerry
Jay wrote:
> I just bought this Jeep a few weeks ago and it was running just fine.
> About a week after I got it, I realized it needed a new carb as the
> float was stuck in the current one. I replaced the carb with a rebuilt
> one and it was running just fine again. Now, maybe two weeks later,
> all of a sudden when I turn the ignition off when I get home, the
> engine shuts off then maybe a fraction of a second later it starts
> shaking like it wants to start up again (sort of like bucking?). I
> have noticed the shaking is directly related to the amount of time I
> have been driving for. If I run out for a few minutes, it might not
> shake at all when I turn it off. But if I go for a half hour long
> drive, when I go to turn it off, the engine starts shaking. Any ideas
> what could be going on? Any help at all would be greatly appreciated!
> I have a 1986 CJ7 73K, 5 speed manual with an inline 6. Thanks, Jason
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
build-up of carbon inside the combustion chambers. The carbon continues
to glow after the last combustion stroke which propels the engine in
another rotation again, which with a mechanical fuel pump keeps the fuel
going. Then the glowing carbon re-ignites the fuel mixture in place of
the spark plug again.
The cure, if this is the problem and it sounds like it is, is to get rid
of the carbon build-up. The easiest way to do this is to slowly (!!)
feed 12-16 ounces of plain water into the air intake as the engine is
running, keeping the RPMs up slightly. NO, this will NOT cause
hydrolock providing you feed the water in slowly and in a controlled
manner over a minute to two minutes. Just slowly trickle it and
maintain control over the water so you don't dump it in too quickly by
accident.
The water will scavenge the carbon deposits and though it may take more
than one treatment, this will leave the combustion chambers clean as a
whistle. No I didn't just make this up, this technique has been used at
least from the thirties or forties to get rid of carbon. The water
creates mini shock-waves that act to break the carbon up so it can be
ejected through the exhaust system.
Try it.
Jerry
Jay wrote:
> I just bought this Jeep a few weeks ago and it was running just fine.
> About a week after I got it, I realized it needed a new carb as the
> float was stuck in the current one. I replaced the carb with a rebuilt
> one and it was running just fine again. Now, maybe two weeks later,
> all of a sudden when I turn the ignition off when I get home, the
> engine shuts off then maybe a fraction of a second later it starts
> shaking like it wants to start up again (sort of like bucking?). I
> have noticed the shaking is directly related to the amount of time I
> have been driving for. If I run out for a few minutes, it might not
> shake at all when I turn it off. But if I go for a half hour long
> drive, when I go to turn it off, the engine starts shaking. Any ideas
> what could be going on? Any help at all would be greatly appreciated!
> I have a 1986 CJ7 73K, 5 speed manual with an inline 6. Thanks, Jason
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
05-26-2006, 01:37 AM
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Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
"Dieseling" as yours sounds like it is doing is often caused by a
build-up of carbon inside the combustion chambers. The carbon continues
to glow after the last combustion stroke which propels the engine in
another rotation again, which with a mechanical fuel pump keeps the fuel
going. Then the glowing carbon re-ignites the fuel mixture in place of
the spark plug again.
The cure, if this is the problem and it sounds like it is, is to get rid
of the carbon build-up. The easiest way to do this is to slowly (!!)
feed 12-16 ounces of plain water into the air intake as the engine is
running, keeping the RPMs up slightly. NO, this will NOT cause
hydrolock providing you feed the water in slowly and in a controlled
manner over a minute to two minutes. Just slowly trickle it and
maintain control over the water so you don't dump it in too quickly by
accident.
The water will scavenge the carbon deposits and though it may take more
than one treatment, this will leave the combustion chambers clean as a
whistle. No I didn't just make this up, this technique has been used at
least from the thirties or forties to get rid of carbon. The water
creates mini shock-waves that act to break the carbon up so it can be
ejected through the exhaust system.
Try it.
Jerry
Jay wrote:
> I just bought this Jeep a few weeks ago and it was running just fine.
> About a week after I got it, I realized it needed a new carb as the
> float was stuck in the current one. I replaced the carb with a rebuilt
> one and it was running just fine again. Now, maybe two weeks later,
> all of a sudden when I turn the ignition off when I get home, the
> engine shuts off then maybe a fraction of a second later it starts
> shaking like it wants to start up again (sort of like bucking?). I
> have noticed the shaking is directly related to the amount of time I
> have been driving for. If I run out for a few minutes, it might not
> shake at all when I turn it off. But if I go for a half hour long
> drive, when I go to turn it off, the engine starts shaking. Any ideas
> what could be going on? Any help at all would be greatly appreciated!
> I have a 1986 CJ7 73K, 5 speed manual with an inline 6. Thanks, Jason
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
build-up of carbon inside the combustion chambers. The carbon continues
to glow after the last combustion stroke which propels the engine in
another rotation again, which with a mechanical fuel pump keeps the fuel
going. Then the glowing carbon re-ignites the fuel mixture in place of
the spark plug again.
The cure, if this is the problem and it sounds like it is, is to get rid
of the carbon build-up. The easiest way to do this is to slowly (!!)
feed 12-16 ounces of plain water into the air intake as the engine is
running, keeping the RPMs up slightly. NO, this will NOT cause
hydrolock providing you feed the water in slowly and in a controlled
manner over a minute to two minutes. Just slowly trickle it and
maintain control over the water so you don't dump it in too quickly by
accident.
The water will scavenge the carbon deposits and though it may take more
than one treatment, this will leave the combustion chambers clean as a
whistle. No I didn't just make this up, this technique has been used at
least from the thirties or forties to get rid of carbon. The water
creates mini shock-waves that act to break the carbon up so it can be
ejected through the exhaust system.
Try it.
Jerry
Jay wrote:
> I just bought this Jeep a few weeks ago and it was running just fine.
> About a week after I got it, I realized it needed a new carb as the
> float was stuck in the current one. I replaced the carb with a rebuilt
> one and it was running just fine again. Now, maybe two weeks later,
> all of a sudden when I turn the ignition off when I get home, the
> engine shuts off then maybe a fraction of a second later it starts
> shaking like it wants to start up again (sort of like bucking?). I
> have noticed the shaking is directly related to the amount of time I
> have been driving for. If I run out for a few minutes, it might not
> shake at all when I turn it off. But if I go for a half hour long
> drive, when I go to turn it off, the engine starts shaking. Any ideas
> what could be going on? Any help at all would be greatly appreciated!
> I have a 1986 CJ7 73K, 5 speed manual with an inline 6. Thanks, Jason
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
05-26-2006, 01:37 AM
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Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
"Dieseling" as yours sounds like it is doing is often caused by a
build-up of carbon inside the combustion chambers. The carbon continues
to glow after the last combustion stroke which propels the engine in
another rotation again, which with a mechanical fuel pump keeps the fuel
going. Then the glowing carbon re-ignites the fuel mixture in place of
the spark plug again.
The cure, if this is the problem and it sounds like it is, is to get rid
of the carbon build-up. The easiest way to do this is to slowly (!!)
feed 12-16 ounces of plain water into the air intake as the engine is
running, keeping the RPMs up slightly. NO, this will NOT cause
hydrolock providing you feed the water in slowly and in a controlled
manner over a minute to two minutes. Just slowly trickle it and
maintain control over the water so you don't dump it in too quickly by
accident.
The water will scavenge the carbon deposits and though it may take more
than one treatment, this will leave the combustion chambers clean as a
whistle. No I didn't just make this up, this technique has been used at
least from the thirties or forties to get rid of carbon. The water
creates mini shock-waves that act to break the carbon up so it can be
ejected through the exhaust system.
Try it.
Jerry
Jay wrote:
> I just bought this Jeep a few weeks ago and it was running just fine.
> About a week after I got it, I realized it needed a new carb as the
> float was stuck in the current one. I replaced the carb with a rebuilt
> one and it was running just fine again. Now, maybe two weeks later,
> all of a sudden when I turn the ignition off when I get home, the
> engine shuts off then maybe a fraction of a second later it starts
> shaking like it wants to start up again (sort of like bucking?). I
> have noticed the shaking is directly related to the amount of time I
> have been driving for. If I run out for a few minutes, it might not
> shake at all when I turn it off. But if I go for a half hour long
> drive, when I go to turn it off, the engine starts shaking. Any ideas
> what could be going on? Any help at all would be greatly appreciated!
> I have a 1986 CJ7 73K, 5 speed manual with an inline 6. Thanks, Jason
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
build-up of carbon inside the combustion chambers. The carbon continues
to glow after the last combustion stroke which propels the engine in
another rotation again, which with a mechanical fuel pump keeps the fuel
going. Then the glowing carbon re-ignites the fuel mixture in place of
the spark plug again.
The cure, if this is the problem and it sounds like it is, is to get rid
of the carbon build-up. The easiest way to do this is to slowly (!!)
feed 12-16 ounces of plain water into the air intake as the engine is
running, keeping the RPMs up slightly. NO, this will NOT cause
hydrolock providing you feed the water in slowly and in a controlled
manner over a minute to two minutes. Just slowly trickle it and
maintain control over the water so you don't dump it in too quickly by
accident.
The water will scavenge the carbon deposits and though it may take more
than one treatment, this will leave the combustion chambers clean as a
whistle. No I didn't just make this up, this technique has been used at
least from the thirties or forties to get rid of carbon. The water
creates mini shock-waves that act to break the carbon up so it can be
ejected through the exhaust system.
Try it.
Jerry
Jay wrote:
> I just bought this Jeep a few weeks ago and it was running just fine.
> About a week after I got it, I realized it needed a new carb as the
> float was stuck in the current one. I replaced the carb with a rebuilt
> one and it was running just fine again. Now, maybe two weeks later,
> all of a sudden when I turn the ignition off when I get home, the
> engine shuts off then maybe a fraction of a second later it starts
> shaking like it wants to start up again (sort of like bucking?). I
> have noticed the shaking is directly related to the amount of time I
> have been driving for. If I run out for a few minutes, it might not
> shake at all when I turn it off. But if I go for a half hour long
> drive, when I go to turn it off, the engine starts shaking. Any ideas
> what could be going on? Any help at all would be greatly appreciated!
> I have a 1986 CJ7 73K, 5 speed manual with an inline 6. Thanks, Jason
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
05-26-2006, 07:59 AM
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Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
Would a spray-bottle work better than pouring it in? I have one I use to
check for bad plug wires. Mist under the hood at night and look for the
light-show.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:juwdg.1012$sP1.459@fed1read07...
> The cure, if this is the problem and it sounds like it is, is to get rid
> of the carbon build-up. The easiest way to do this is to slowly (!!)
> feed 12-16 ounces of plain water into the air intake as the engine is
> running, keeping the RPMs up slightly. NO, this will NOT cause
> hydrolock providing you feed the water in slowly and in a controlled
> manner over a minute to two minutes. Just slowly trickle it and
> maintain control over the water so you don't dump it in too quickly by
> accident.
check for bad plug wires. Mist under the hood at night and look for the
light-show.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:juwdg.1012$sP1.459@fed1read07...
> The cure, if this is the problem and it sounds like it is, is to get rid
> of the carbon build-up. The easiest way to do this is to slowly (!!)
> feed 12-16 ounces of plain water into the air intake as the engine is
> running, keeping the RPMs up slightly. NO, this will NOT cause
> hydrolock providing you feed the water in slowly and in a controlled
> manner over a minute to two minutes. Just slowly trickle it and
> maintain control over the water so you don't dump it in too quickly by
> accident.
05-26-2006, 07:59 AM
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Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
Would a spray-bottle work better than pouring it in? I have one I use to
check for bad plug wires. Mist under the hood at night and look for the
light-show.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:juwdg.1012$sP1.459@fed1read07...
> The cure, if this is the problem and it sounds like it is, is to get rid
> of the carbon build-up. The easiest way to do this is to slowly (!!)
> feed 12-16 ounces of plain water into the air intake as the engine is
> running, keeping the RPMs up slightly. NO, this will NOT cause
> hydrolock providing you feed the water in slowly and in a controlled
> manner over a minute to two minutes. Just slowly trickle it and
> maintain control over the water so you don't dump it in too quickly by
> accident.
check for bad plug wires. Mist under the hood at night and look for the
light-show.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:juwdg.1012$sP1.459@fed1read07...
> The cure, if this is the problem and it sounds like it is, is to get rid
> of the carbon build-up. The easiest way to do this is to slowly (!!)
> feed 12-16 ounces of plain water into the air intake as the engine is
> running, keeping the RPMs up slightly. NO, this will NOT cause
> hydrolock providing you feed the water in slowly and in a controlled
> manner over a minute to two minutes. Just slowly trickle it and
> maintain control over the water so you don't dump it in too quickly by
> accident.
05-26-2006, 07:59 AM
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Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
Would a spray-bottle work better than pouring it in? I have one I use to
check for bad plug wires. Mist under the hood at night and look for the
light-show.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:juwdg.1012$sP1.459@fed1read07...
> The cure, if this is the problem and it sounds like it is, is to get rid
> of the carbon build-up. The easiest way to do this is to slowly (!!)
> feed 12-16 ounces of plain water into the air intake as the engine is
> running, keeping the RPMs up slightly. NO, this will NOT cause
> hydrolock providing you feed the water in slowly and in a controlled
> manner over a minute to two minutes. Just slowly trickle it and
> maintain control over the water so you don't dump it in too quickly by
> accident.
check for bad plug wires. Mist under the hood at night and look for the
light-show.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:juwdg.1012$sP1.459@fed1read07...
> The cure, if this is the problem and it sounds like it is, is to get rid
> of the carbon build-up. The easiest way to do this is to slowly (!!)
> feed 12-16 ounces of plain water into the air intake as the engine is
> running, keeping the RPMs up slightly. NO, this will NOT cause
> hydrolock providing you feed the water in slowly and in a controlled
> manner over a minute to two minutes. Just slowly trickle it and
> maintain control over the water so you don't dump it in too quickly by
> accident.
05-26-2006, 08:13 AM
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Re: '86 CJ7 Shaking after ignition is turned off
No you need a steady slow stream of 'water' to shock the carbon off.
I have had excellent results using a pint of ATF instead of water to do
this. The ATF makes a massive cloud of smoke though. I have heard from
enough people about the water instead that I will use that next time and
see how it goes.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Steve Foley wrote:
>
> Would a spray-bottle work better than pouring it in? I have one I use to
> check for bad plug wires. Mist under the hood at night and look for the
> light-show.
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:juwdg.1012$sP1.459@fed1read07...
>
> > The cure, if this is the problem and it sounds like it is, is to get rid
> > of the carbon build-up. The easiest way to do this is to slowly (!!)
> > feed 12-16 ounces of plain water into the air intake as the engine is
> > running, keeping the RPMs up slightly. NO, this will NOT cause
> > hydrolock providing you feed the water in slowly and in a controlled
> > manner over a minute to two minutes. Just slowly trickle it and
> > maintain control over the water so you don't dump it in too quickly by
> > accident.
I have had excellent results using a pint of ATF instead of water to do
this. The ATF makes a massive cloud of smoke though. I have heard from
enough people about the water instead that I will use that next time and
see how it goes.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Steve Foley wrote:
>
> Would a spray-bottle work better than pouring it in? I have one I use to
> check for bad plug wires. Mist under the hood at night and look for the
> light-show.
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:juwdg.1012$sP1.459@fed1read07...
>
> > The cure, if this is the problem and it sounds like it is, is to get rid
> > of the carbon build-up. The easiest way to do this is to slowly (!!)
> > feed 12-16 ounces of plain water into the air intake as the engine is
> > running, keeping the RPMs up slightly. NO, this will NOT cause
> > hydrolock providing you feed the water in slowly and in a controlled
> > manner over a minute to two minutes. Just slowly trickle it and
> > maintain control over the water so you don't dump it in too quickly by
> > accident.