'79 CJ5 intake/exhaust manifold gasket
04-10-2006, 11:02 AM
#21
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Posts: n/a
Re: '79 CJ5 intake/exhaust manifold gasket
If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
missing might be the problem.
btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
Ron
Mike Romain wrote:
> I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
> with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
> bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
> muffler guy grumbling about...
>
> It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
> 'donut' joint stays put.
>
> I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>
> Mike
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
>>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>>
>>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>>for my ZJ draglink.)
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>Ron
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal for
>>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing. (I
>>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>>>>
>>>>Ron
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a pattern
>>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the ends.
>>>>>
>>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a while.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>>>>>
>>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't. The
>>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the pipe
>>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the bell
>>>>>housing.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks is to
>>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I want
>>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do that
>>>>>>works better then other things ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold and
>>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron
I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
missing might be the problem.
btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
Ron
Mike Romain wrote:
> I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
> with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
> bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
> muffler guy grumbling about...
>
> It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
> 'donut' joint stays put.
>
> I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>
> Mike
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
>>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>>
>>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>>for my ZJ draglink.)
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>Ron
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal for
>>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing. (I
>>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>>>>
>>>>Ron
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a pattern
>>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the ends.
>>>>>
>>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a while.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>>>>>
>>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't. The
>>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the pipe
>>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the bell
>>>>>housing.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks is to
>>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I want
>>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do that
>>>>>>works better then other things ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold and
>>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron
04-10-2006, 11:02 AM
#22
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '79 CJ5 intake/exhaust manifold gasket
If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
missing might be the problem.
btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
Ron
Mike Romain wrote:
> I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
> with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
> bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
> muffler guy grumbling about...
>
> It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
> 'donut' joint stays put.
>
> I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>
> Mike
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
>>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>>
>>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>>for my ZJ draglink.)
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>Ron
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal for
>>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing. (I
>>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>>>>
>>>>Ron
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a pattern
>>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the ends.
>>>>>
>>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a while.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>>>>>
>>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't. The
>>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the pipe
>>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the bell
>>>>>housing.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks is to
>>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I want
>>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do that
>>>>>>works better then other things ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold and
>>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron
I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
missing might be the problem.
btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
Ron
Mike Romain wrote:
> I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
> with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
> bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
> muffler guy grumbling about...
>
> It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
> 'donut' joint stays put.
>
> I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>
> Mike
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
>>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>>
>>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>>for my ZJ draglink.)
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>Ron
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal for
>>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing. (I
>>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>>>>
>>>>Ron
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a pattern
>>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the ends.
>>>>>
>>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a while.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>>>>>
>>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't. The
>>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the pipe
>>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the bell
>>>>>housing.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks is to
>>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I want
>>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do that
>>>>>>works better then other things ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold and
>>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron
04-10-2006, 12:32 PM
#23
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Posts: n/a
Re: '79 CJ5 intake/exhaust manifold gasket
I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure.
I broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
I have posted the photo here:
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
wrench should even do it.
Mike
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>
> I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
> missing might be the problem.
>
> btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
> soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>
> Ron
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
> > with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
> > bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
> > muffler guy grumbling about...
> >
> > It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
> > 'donut' joint stays put.
> >
> > I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >
> >>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
> >>
> >>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
> >>for my ZJ draglink.)
> >>
> >>thanks,
> >>
> >>Ron
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
> >>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
> >>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal for
> >>>the clamping/bolting parts.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing. (I
> >>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
> >>>>
> >>>>Ron
> >>>>
> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a pattern
> >>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
> >>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the ends.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a while.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't. The
> >>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
> >>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the pipe
> >>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
> >>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the bell
> >>>>>housing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Mike
> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Hello all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks is to
> >>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I want
> >>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do that
> >>>>>>works better then other things ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold and
> >>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Ron
Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure.
I broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
I have posted the photo here:
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
wrench should even do it.
Mike
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>
> I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
> missing might be the problem.
>
> btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
> soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>
> Ron
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
> > with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
> > bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
> > muffler guy grumbling about...
> >
> > It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
> > 'donut' joint stays put.
> >
> > I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >
> >>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
> >>
> >>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
> >>for my ZJ draglink.)
> >>
> >>thanks,
> >>
> >>Ron
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
> >>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
> >>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal for
> >>>the clamping/bolting parts.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing. (I
> >>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
> >>>>
> >>>>Ron
> >>>>
> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a pattern
> >>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
> >>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the ends.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a while.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't. The
> >>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
> >>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the pipe
> >>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
> >>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the bell
> >>>>>housing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Mike
> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Hello all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks is to
> >>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I want
> >>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do that
> >>>>>>works better then other things ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold and
> >>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Ron
04-10-2006, 12:32 PM
#24
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '79 CJ5 intake/exhaust manifold gasket
I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure.
I broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
I have posted the photo here:
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
wrench should even do it.
Mike
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>
> I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
> missing might be the problem.
>
> btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
> soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>
> Ron
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
> > with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
> > bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
> > muffler guy grumbling about...
> >
> > It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
> > 'donut' joint stays put.
> >
> > I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >
> >>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
> >>
> >>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
> >>for my ZJ draglink.)
> >>
> >>thanks,
> >>
> >>Ron
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
> >>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
> >>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal for
> >>>the clamping/bolting parts.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing. (I
> >>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
> >>>>
> >>>>Ron
> >>>>
> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a pattern
> >>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
> >>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the ends.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a while.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't. The
> >>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
> >>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the pipe
> >>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
> >>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the bell
> >>>>>housing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Mike
> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Hello all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks is to
> >>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I want
> >>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do that
> >>>>>>works better then other things ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold and
> >>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Ron
Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure.
I broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
I have posted the photo here:
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
wrench should even do it.
Mike
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>
> I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
> missing might be the problem.
>
> btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
> soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>
> Ron
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
> > with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
> > bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
> > muffler guy grumbling about...
> >
> > It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
> > 'donut' joint stays put.
> >
> > I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >
> >>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
> >>
> >>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
> >>for my ZJ draglink.)
> >>
> >>thanks,
> >>
> >>Ron
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
> >>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
> >>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal for
> >>>the clamping/bolting parts.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing. (I
> >>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
> >>>>
> >>>>Ron
> >>>>
> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a pattern
> >>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
> >>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the ends.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a while.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't. The
> >>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
> >>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the pipe
> >>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
> >>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the bell
> >>>>>housing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Mike
> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Hello all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks is to
> >>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I want
> >>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do that
> >>>>>>works better then other things ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold and
> >>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Ron
04-10-2006, 12:32 PM
#25
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '79 CJ5 intake/exhaust manifold gasket
I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure.
I broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
I have posted the photo here:
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
wrench should even do it.
Mike
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>
> I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
> missing might be the problem.
>
> btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
> soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>
> Ron
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
> > with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
> > bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
> > muffler guy grumbling about...
> >
> > It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
> > 'donut' joint stays put.
> >
> > I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >
> >>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
> >>
> >>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
> >>for my ZJ draglink.)
> >>
> >>thanks,
> >>
> >>Ron
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
> >>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
> >>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal for
> >>>the clamping/bolting parts.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing. (I
> >>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
> >>>>
> >>>>Ron
> >>>>
> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a pattern
> >>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
> >>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the ends.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a while.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't. The
> >>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
> >>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the pipe
> >>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
> >>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the bell
> >>>>>housing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Mike
> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Hello all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks is to
> >>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I want
> >>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do that
> >>>>>>works better then other things ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold and
> >>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Ron
Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure.
I broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
I have posted the photo here:
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
wrench should even do it.
Mike
Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>
> I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
> missing might be the problem.
>
> btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
> soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>
> Ron
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
> > with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
> > bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
> > muffler guy grumbling about...
> >
> > It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
> > 'donut' joint stays put.
> >
> > I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >
> >>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
> >>
> >>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
> >>for my ZJ draglink.)
> >>
> >>thanks,
> >>
> >>Ron
> >>
> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
> >>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
> >>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal for
> >>>the clamping/bolting parts.
> >>>
> >>>Mike
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing. (I
> >>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
> >>>>
> >>>>Ron
> >>>>
> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a pattern
> >>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
> >>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the ends.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a while.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't. The
> >>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
> >>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the pipe
> >>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
> >>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the bell
> >>>>>housing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Mike
> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Hello all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks is to
> >>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I want
> >>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do that
> >>>>>>works better then other things ?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold and
> >>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Ron
04-10-2006, 04:15 PM
#26
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '79 CJ5 intake/exhaust manifold gasket
Mike have you been using Guinness to flush the radiator again?
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...90636987&idx=5
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:443A8897.5735D71D@sympatico.ca...
>I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
> Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure.
> I broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
> ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
>
> I have posted the photo here:
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>
> The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
> wrench should even do it.
>
> Mike
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>
>> If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>>
>> I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
>> missing might be the problem.
>>
>> btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
>> soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> > I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a
>> > strap
>> > with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
>> > bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
>> > muffler guy grumbling about...
>> >
>> > It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
>> > 'donut' joint stays put.
>> >
>> > I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>> >
>> >>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>> >>
>> >>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>> >>for my ZJ draglink.)
>> >>
>> >>thanks,
>> >>
>> >>Ron
>> >>
>> >>Mike Romain wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>> >>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>> >>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal
>> >>>for
>> >>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>> >>>
>> >>>Mike
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing.
>> >>>>(I
>> >>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Ron
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a
>> >>>>>pattern
>> >>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>> >>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the
>> >>>>>ends.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a
>> >>>>>while.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't.
>> >>>>>The
>> >>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>> >>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the
>> >>>>>pipe
>> >>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>> >>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the
>> >>>>>bell
>> >>>>>housing.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Mike
>> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>Hello all,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks
>> >>>>>>is to
>> >>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I
>> >>>>>>want
>> >>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do
>> >>>>>>that
>> >>>>>>works better then other things ?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold
>> >>>>>>and
>> >>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Ron
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...90636987&idx=5
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:443A8897.5735D71D@sympatico.ca...
>I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
> Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure.
> I broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
> ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
>
> I have posted the photo here:
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>
> The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
> wrench should even do it.
>
> Mike
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>
>> If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>>
>> I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
>> missing might be the problem.
>>
>> btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
>> soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> > I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a
>> > strap
>> > with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
>> > bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
>> > muffler guy grumbling about...
>> >
>> > It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
>> > 'donut' joint stays put.
>> >
>> > I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>> >
>> >>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>> >>
>> >>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>> >>for my ZJ draglink.)
>> >>
>> >>thanks,
>> >>
>> >>Ron
>> >>
>> >>Mike Romain wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>> >>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>> >>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal
>> >>>for
>> >>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>> >>>
>> >>>Mike
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing.
>> >>>>(I
>> >>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Ron
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a
>> >>>>>pattern
>> >>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>> >>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the
>> >>>>>ends.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a
>> >>>>>while.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't.
>> >>>>>The
>> >>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>> >>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the
>> >>>>>pipe
>> >>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>> >>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the
>> >>>>>bell
>> >>>>>housing.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Mike
>> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>Hello all,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks
>> >>>>>>is to
>> >>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I
>> >>>>>>want
>> >>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do
>> >>>>>>that
>> >>>>>>works better then other things ?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold
>> >>>>>>and
>> >>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Ron
04-10-2006, 04:15 PM
#27
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '79 CJ5 intake/exhaust manifold gasket
Mike have you been using Guinness to flush the radiator again?
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...90636987&idx=5
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:443A8897.5735D71D@sympatico.ca...
>I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
> Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure.
> I broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
> ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
>
> I have posted the photo here:
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>
> The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
> wrench should even do it.
>
> Mike
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>
>> If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>>
>> I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
>> missing might be the problem.
>>
>> btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
>> soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> > I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a
>> > strap
>> > with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
>> > bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
>> > muffler guy grumbling about...
>> >
>> > It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
>> > 'donut' joint stays put.
>> >
>> > I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>> >
>> >>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>> >>
>> >>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>> >>for my ZJ draglink.)
>> >>
>> >>thanks,
>> >>
>> >>Ron
>> >>
>> >>Mike Romain wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>> >>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>> >>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal
>> >>>for
>> >>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>> >>>
>> >>>Mike
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing.
>> >>>>(I
>> >>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Ron
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a
>> >>>>>pattern
>> >>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>> >>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the
>> >>>>>ends.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a
>> >>>>>while.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't.
>> >>>>>The
>> >>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>> >>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the
>> >>>>>pipe
>> >>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>> >>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the
>> >>>>>bell
>> >>>>>housing.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Mike
>> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>Hello all,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks
>> >>>>>>is to
>> >>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I
>> >>>>>>want
>> >>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do
>> >>>>>>that
>> >>>>>>works better then other things ?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold
>> >>>>>>and
>> >>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Ron
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...90636987&idx=5
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:443A8897.5735D71D@sympatico.ca...
>I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
> Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure.
> I broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
> ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
>
> I have posted the photo here:
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>
> The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
> wrench should even do it.
>
> Mike
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>
>> If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>>
>> I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
>> missing might be the problem.
>>
>> btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
>> soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> > I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a
>> > strap
>> > with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
>> > bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
>> > muffler guy grumbling about...
>> >
>> > It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
>> > 'donut' joint stays put.
>> >
>> > I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>> >
>> >>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>> >>
>> >>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>> >>for my ZJ draglink.)
>> >>
>> >>thanks,
>> >>
>> >>Ron
>> >>
>> >>Mike Romain wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>> >>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>> >>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal
>> >>>for
>> >>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>> >>>
>> >>>Mike
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing.
>> >>>>(I
>> >>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Ron
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a
>> >>>>>pattern
>> >>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>> >>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the
>> >>>>>ends.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a
>> >>>>>while.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't.
>> >>>>>The
>> >>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>> >>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the
>> >>>>>pipe
>> >>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>> >>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the
>> >>>>>bell
>> >>>>>housing.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Mike
>> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>Hello all,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks
>> >>>>>>is to
>> >>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I
>> >>>>>>want
>> >>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do
>> >>>>>>that
>> >>>>>>works better then other things ?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold
>> >>>>>>and
>> >>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Ron
04-10-2006, 04:15 PM
#28
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '79 CJ5 intake/exhaust manifold gasket
Mike have you been using Guinness to flush the radiator again?
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...90636987&idx=5
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:443A8897.5735D71D@sympatico.ca...
>I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
> Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure.
> I broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
> ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
>
> I have posted the photo here:
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>
> The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
> wrench should even do it.
>
> Mike
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>
>> If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>>
>> I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
>> missing might be the problem.
>>
>> btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
>> soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> > I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a
>> > strap
>> > with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
>> > bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
>> > muffler guy grumbling about...
>> >
>> > It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
>> > 'donut' joint stays put.
>> >
>> > I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>> >
>> >>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>> >>
>> >>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>> >>for my ZJ draglink.)
>> >>
>> >>thanks,
>> >>
>> >>Ron
>> >>
>> >>Mike Romain wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>> >>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>> >>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal
>> >>>for
>> >>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>> >>>
>> >>>Mike
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing.
>> >>>>(I
>> >>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Ron
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a
>> >>>>>pattern
>> >>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>> >>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the
>> >>>>>ends.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a
>> >>>>>while.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't.
>> >>>>>The
>> >>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>> >>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the
>> >>>>>pipe
>> >>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>> >>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the
>> >>>>>bell
>> >>>>>housing.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Mike
>> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>Hello all,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks
>> >>>>>>is to
>> >>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I
>> >>>>>>want
>> >>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do
>> >>>>>>that
>> >>>>>>works better then other things ?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold
>> >>>>>>and
>> >>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Ron
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...90636987&idx=5
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:443A8897.5735D71D@sympatico.ca...
>I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
> Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure.
> I broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
> ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
>
> I have posted the photo here:
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>
> The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
> wrench should even do it.
>
> Mike
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>
>> If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>>
>> I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
>> missing might be the problem.
>>
>> btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
>> soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>> > I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a
>> > strap
>> > with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
>> > bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
>> > muffler guy grumbling about...
>> >
>> > It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
>> > 'donut' joint stays put.
>> >
>> > I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> >
>> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>> >
>> >>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>> >>
>> >>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>> >>for my ZJ draglink.)
>> >>
>> >>thanks,
>> >>
>> >>Ron
>> >>
>> >>Mike Romain wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>> >>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>> >>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal
>> >>>for
>> >>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>> >>>
>> >>>Mike
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing.
>> >>>>(I
>> >>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Ron
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a
>> >>>>>pattern
>> >>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>> >>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the
>> >>>>>ends.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a
>> >>>>>while.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't.
>> >>>>>The
>> >>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>> >>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the
>> >>>>>pipe
>> >>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>> >>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the
>> >>>>>bell
>> >>>>>housing.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Mike
>> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> >>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> >>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>Hello all,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks
>> >>>>>>is to
>> >>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I
>> >>>>>>want
>> >>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do
>> >>>>>>that
>> >>>>>>works better then other things ?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold
>> >>>>>>and
>> >>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>Ron
04-10-2006, 04:52 PM
#29
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '79 CJ5 intake/exhaust manifold gasket
*S* That's what my spring activity is fix the CJ bfore I take it out.
thanks for the pics
Mike Romain wrote:
> I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
> Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure.
> I broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
> ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
>
> I have posted the photo here:
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>
> The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
> wrench should even do it.
>
> Mike
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
>>If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>>
>>I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
>>missing might be the problem.
>>
>>btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
>>soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>>
>>Ron
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
>>>with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
>>>bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
>>>muffler guy grumbling about...
>>>
>>>It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
>>>'donut' joint stays put.
>>>
>>>I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>>>>
>>>>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>>>>for my ZJ draglink.)
>>>>
>>>>thanks,
>>>>
>>>>Ron
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>>>>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>>>>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal for
>>>>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing. (I
>>>>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a pattern
>>>>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>>>>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the ends.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a while.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't. The
>>>>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>>>>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the pipe
>>>>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>>>>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the bell
>>>>>>>housing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks is to
>>>>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I want
>>>>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do that
>>>>>>>>works better then other things ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold and
>>>>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ron
thanks for the pics
Mike Romain wrote:
> I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
> Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure.
> I broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
> ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
>
> I have posted the photo here:
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>
> The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
> wrench should even do it.
>
> Mike
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
>>If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>>
>>I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
>>missing might be the problem.
>>
>>btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
>>soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>>
>>Ron
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
>>>with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
>>>bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
>>>muffler guy grumbling about...
>>>
>>>It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
>>>'donut' joint stays put.
>>>
>>>I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>>>>
>>>>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>>>>for my ZJ draglink.)
>>>>
>>>>thanks,
>>>>
>>>>Ron
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>>>>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>>>>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal for
>>>>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing. (I
>>>>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a pattern
>>>>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>>>>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the ends.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a while.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't. The
>>>>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>>>>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the pipe
>>>>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>>>>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the bell
>>>>>>>housing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks is to
>>>>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I want
>>>>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do that
>>>>>>>>works better then other things ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold and
>>>>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ron
04-10-2006, 04:52 PM
#30
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '79 CJ5 intake/exhaust manifold gasket
*S* That's what my spring activity is fix the CJ bfore I take it out.
thanks for the pics
Mike Romain wrote:
> I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
> Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure.
> I broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
> ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
>
> I have posted the photo here:
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>
> The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
> wrench should even do it.
>
> Mike
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
>>If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>>
>>I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
>>missing might be the problem.
>>
>>btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
>>soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>>
>>Ron
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
>>>with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
>>>bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
>>>muffler guy grumbling about...
>>>
>>>It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
>>>'donut' joint stays put.
>>>
>>>I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>>>>
>>>>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>>>>for my ZJ draglink.)
>>>>
>>>>thanks,
>>>>
>>>>Ron
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>>>>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>>>>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal for
>>>>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing. (I
>>>>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a pattern
>>>>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>>>>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the ends.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a while.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't. The
>>>>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>>>>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the pipe
>>>>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>>>>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the bell
>>>>>>>housing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks is to
>>>>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I want
>>>>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do that
>>>>>>>>works better then other things ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold and
>>>>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ron
thanks for the pics
Mike Romain wrote:
> I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
> Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure.
> I broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
> ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
>
> I have posted the photo here:
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>
> The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
> wrench should even do it.
>
> Mike
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
>>If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>>
>>I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
>>missing might be the problem.
>>
>>btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
>>soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>>
>>Ron
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
>>>with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
>>>bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
>>>muffler guy grumbling about...
>>>
>>>It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
>>>'donut' joint stays put.
>>>
>>>I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>>>>
>>>>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>>>>for my ZJ draglink.)
>>>>
>>>>thanks,
>>>>
>>>>Ron
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>>>>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>>>>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal for
>>>>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing. (I
>>>>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a pattern
>>>>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>>>>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the ends.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a while.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't. The
>>>>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>>>>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the pipe
>>>>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>>>>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the bell
>>>>>>>housing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks is to
>>>>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I want
>>>>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do that
>>>>>>>>works better then other things ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold and
>>>>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ron
