'79 CJ5 intake/exhaust manifold gasket
04-10-2006, 04:52 PM
#31
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Re: '79 CJ5 intake/exhaust manifold gasket
*S* That's what my spring activity is fix the CJ bfore I take it out.
thanks for the pics
Mike Romain wrote:
> I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
> Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure.
> I broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
> ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
>
> I have posted the photo here:
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>
> The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
> wrench should even do it.
>
> Mike
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
>>If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>>
>>I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
>>missing might be the problem.
>>
>>btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
>>soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>>
>>Ron
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
>>>with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
>>>bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
>>>muffler guy grumbling about...
>>>
>>>It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
>>>'donut' joint stays put.
>>>
>>>I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>>>>
>>>>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>>>>for my ZJ draglink.)
>>>>
>>>>thanks,
>>>>
>>>>Ron
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>>>>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>>>>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal for
>>>>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing. (I
>>>>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a pattern
>>>>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>>>>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the ends.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a while.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't. The
>>>>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>>>>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the pipe
>>>>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>>>>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the bell
>>>>>>>housing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks is to
>>>>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I want
>>>>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do that
>>>>>>>>works better then other things ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold and
>>>>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ron
thanks for the pics
Mike Romain wrote:
> I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
> Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure.
> I broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
> ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
>
> I have posted the photo here:
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>
> The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
> wrench should even do it.
>
> Mike
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
>>If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>>
>>I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
>>missing might be the problem.
>>
>>btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
>>soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>>
>>Ron
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
>>>with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
>>>bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
>>>muffler guy grumbling about...
>>>
>>>It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
>>>'donut' joint stays put.
>>>
>>>I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>>>>
>>>>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>>>>for my ZJ draglink.)
>>>>
>>>>thanks,
>>>>
>>>>Ron
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>>>>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>>>>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal for
>>>>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing. (I
>>>>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a pattern
>>>>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>>>>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the ends.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a while.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't. The
>>>>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>>>>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the pipe
>>>>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>>>>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the bell
>>>>>>>housing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks is to
>>>>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I want
>>>>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do that
>>>>>>>>works better then other things ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold and
>>>>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ron
04-10-2006, 08:07 PM
#32
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Posts: n/a
Re: '79 CJ5 intake/exhaust manifold gasket
It will take you a lot longer to drive to the auto-parts store to buy the
bracket than it will to install it.
"Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
news:e1eghu$v3$1@news.csc.depauw.edu...
> *S* That's what my spring activity is fix the CJ bfore I take it out.
>
> thanks for the pics
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
>> Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure. I
>> broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
>> ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
>>
>> I have posted the photo here:
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>>
>> The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
>> wrench should even do it.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>
>>>If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>>>
>>>I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
>>>missing might be the problem.
>>>
>>>btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
>>>soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>>>
>>>Ron
>>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
>>>>with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
>>>>bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
>>>>muffler guy grumbling about...
>>>>
>>>>It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
>>>>'donut' joint stays put.
>>>>
>>>>I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>>>>>
>>>>>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>>>>>for my ZJ draglink.)
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>>>>>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>>>>>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing.
>>>>>>>(I
>>>>>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a
>>>>>>>>pattern
>>>>>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>>>>>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the
>>>>>>>>ends.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a
>>>>>>>>while.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't.
>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>>>>>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the
>>>>>>>>pipe
>>>>>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>>>>>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the
>>>>>>>>bell
>>>>>>>>housing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks
>>>>>>>>>is to
>>>>>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I
>>>>>>>>>want
>>>>>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do
>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>works better then other things ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold
>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Ron
bracket than it will to install it.
"Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
news:e1eghu$v3$1@news.csc.depauw.edu...
> *S* That's what my spring activity is fix the CJ bfore I take it out.
>
> thanks for the pics
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
>> Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure. I
>> broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
>> ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
>>
>> I have posted the photo here:
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>>
>> The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
>> wrench should even do it.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>
>>>If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>>>
>>>I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
>>>missing might be the problem.
>>>
>>>btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
>>>soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>>>
>>>Ron
>>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
>>>>with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
>>>>bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
>>>>muffler guy grumbling about...
>>>>
>>>>It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
>>>>'donut' joint stays put.
>>>>
>>>>I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>>>>>
>>>>>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>>>>>for my ZJ draglink.)
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>>>>>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>>>>>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing.
>>>>>>>(I
>>>>>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a
>>>>>>>>pattern
>>>>>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>>>>>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the
>>>>>>>>ends.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a
>>>>>>>>while.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't.
>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>>>>>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the
>>>>>>>>pipe
>>>>>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>>>>>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the
>>>>>>>>bell
>>>>>>>>housing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks
>>>>>>>>>is to
>>>>>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I
>>>>>>>>>want
>>>>>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do
>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>works better then other things ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold
>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Ron
04-10-2006, 08:07 PM
#33
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '79 CJ5 intake/exhaust manifold gasket
It will take you a lot longer to drive to the auto-parts store to buy the
bracket than it will to install it.
"Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
news:e1eghu$v3$1@news.csc.depauw.edu...
> *S* That's what my spring activity is fix the CJ bfore I take it out.
>
> thanks for the pics
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
>> Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure. I
>> broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
>> ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
>>
>> I have posted the photo here:
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>>
>> The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
>> wrench should even do it.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>
>>>If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>>>
>>>I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
>>>missing might be the problem.
>>>
>>>btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
>>>soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>>>
>>>Ron
>>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
>>>>with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
>>>>bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
>>>>muffler guy grumbling about...
>>>>
>>>>It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
>>>>'donut' joint stays put.
>>>>
>>>>I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>>>>>
>>>>>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>>>>>for my ZJ draglink.)
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>>>>>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>>>>>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing.
>>>>>>>(I
>>>>>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a
>>>>>>>>pattern
>>>>>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>>>>>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the
>>>>>>>>ends.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a
>>>>>>>>while.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't.
>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>>>>>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the
>>>>>>>>pipe
>>>>>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>>>>>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the
>>>>>>>>bell
>>>>>>>>housing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks
>>>>>>>>>is to
>>>>>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I
>>>>>>>>>want
>>>>>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do
>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>works better then other things ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold
>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Ron
bracket than it will to install it.
"Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
news:e1eghu$v3$1@news.csc.depauw.edu...
> *S* That's what my spring activity is fix the CJ bfore I take it out.
>
> thanks for the pics
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
>> Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure. I
>> broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
>> ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
>>
>> I have posted the photo here:
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>>
>> The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
>> wrench should even do it.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>
>>>If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>>>
>>>I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
>>>missing might be the problem.
>>>
>>>btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
>>>soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>>>
>>>Ron
>>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
>>>>with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
>>>>bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
>>>>muffler guy grumbling about...
>>>>
>>>>It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
>>>>'donut' joint stays put.
>>>>
>>>>I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>>>>>
>>>>>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>>>>>for my ZJ draglink.)
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>>>>>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>>>>>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing.
>>>>>>>(I
>>>>>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a
>>>>>>>>pattern
>>>>>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>>>>>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the
>>>>>>>>ends.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a
>>>>>>>>while.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't.
>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>>>>>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the
>>>>>>>>pipe
>>>>>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>>>>>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the
>>>>>>>>bell
>>>>>>>>housing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks
>>>>>>>>>is to
>>>>>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I
>>>>>>>>>want
>>>>>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do
>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>works better then other things ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold
>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Ron
04-10-2006, 08:07 PM
#34
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '79 CJ5 intake/exhaust manifold gasket
It will take you a lot longer to drive to the auto-parts store to buy the
bracket than it will to install it.
"Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
news:e1eghu$v3$1@news.csc.depauw.edu...
> *S* That's what my spring activity is fix the CJ bfore I take it out.
>
> thanks for the pics
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
>> Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure. I
>> broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
>> ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
>>
>> I have posted the photo here:
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>>
>> The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
>> wrench should even do it.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>
>>>If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>>>
>>>I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
>>>missing might be the problem.
>>>
>>>btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
>>>soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>>>
>>>Ron
>>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
>>>>with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
>>>>bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
>>>>muffler guy grumbling about...
>>>>
>>>>It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
>>>>'donut' joint stays put.
>>>>
>>>>I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>>>>>
>>>>>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>>>>>for my ZJ draglink.)
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>>>>>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>>>>>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing.
>>>>>>>(I
>>>>>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a
>>>>>>>>pattern
>>>>>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>>>>>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the
>>>>>>>>ends.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a
>>>>>>>>while.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't.
>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>>>>>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the
>>>>>>>>pipe
>>>>>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>>>>>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the
>>>>>>>>bell
>>>>>>>>housing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks
>>>>>>>>>is to
>>>>>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I
>>>>>>>>>want
>>>>>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do
>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>works better then other things ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold
>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Ron
bracket than it will to install it.
"Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
news:e1eghu$v3$1@news.csc.depauw.edu...
> *S* That's what my spring activity is fix the CJ bfore I take it out.
>
> thanks for the pics
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
>> Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure. I
>> broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
>> ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
>>
>> I have posted the photo here:
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>>
>> The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
>> wrench should even do it.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>
>>>If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>>>
>>>I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
>>>missing might be the problem.
>>>
>>>btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
>>>soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>>>
>>>Ron
>>>
>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
>>>>with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
>>>>bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
>>>>muffler guy grumbling about...
>>>>
>>>>It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
>>>>'donut' joint stays put.
>>>>
>>>>I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>>>>>
>>>>>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>>>>>for my ZJ draglink.)
>>>>>
>>>>>thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>>>>>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>>>>>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing.
>>>>>>>(I
>>>>>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a
>>>>>>>>pattern
>>>>>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>>>>>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the
>>>>>>>>ends.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a
>>>>>>>>while.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't.
>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>>>>>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the
>>>>>>>>pipe
>>>>>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>>>>>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the
>>>>>>>>bell
>>>>>>>>housing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks
>>>>>>>>>is to
>>>>>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I
>>>>>>>>>want
>>>>>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do
>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>works better then other things ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold
>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Ron
04-11-2006, 08:57 AM
#35
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '79 CJ5 intake/exhaust manifold gasket
Hmm, I guess more of it should have gone in the rad instead of me eh?
Mike
billy ray wrote:
>
> Mike have you been using Guinness to flush the radiator again?
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...90636987&idx=5
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:443A8897.5735D71D@sympatico.ca...
> >I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
> > Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure.
> > I broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
> > ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
> >
> > I have posted the photo here:
> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
> >
> > The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
> > wrench should even do it.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>
> >> If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
> >>
> >> I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
> >> missing might be the problem.
> >>
> >> btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
> >> soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
> >>
> >> Ron
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> > I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a
> >> > strap
> >> > with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
> >> > bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
> >> > muffler guy grumbling about...
> >> >
> >> > It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
> >> > 'donut' joint stays put.
> >> >
> >> > I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
> >> >>
> >> >>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
> >> >>for my ZJ draglink.)
> >> >>
> >> >>thanks,
> >> >>
> >> >>Ron
> >> >>
> >> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
> >> >>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
> >> >>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal
> >> >>>for
> >> >>>the clamping/bolting parts.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Mike
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing.
> >> >>>>(I
> >> >>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Ron
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a
> >> >>>>>pattern
> >> >>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
> >> >>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the
> >> >>>>>ends.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a
> >> >>>>>while.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't.
> >> >>>>>The
> >> >>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
> >> >>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the
> >> >>>>>pipe
> >> >>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
> >> >>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the
> >> >>>>>bell
> >> >>>>>housing.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Mike
> >> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> >>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> >>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Hello all,
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks
> >> >>>>>>is to
> >> >>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I
> >> >>>>>>want
> >> >>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do
> >> >>>>>>that
> >> >>>>>>works better then other things ?
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold
> >> >>>>>>and
> >> >>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Ron
Mike
billy ray wrote:
>
> Mike have you been using Guinness to flush the radiator again?
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...90636987&idx=5
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:443A8897.5735D71D@sympatico.ca...
> >I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
> > Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure.
> > I broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
> > ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
> >
> > I have posted the photo here:
> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
> >
> > The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
> > wrench should even do it.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>
> >> If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
> >>
> >> I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
> >> missing might be the problem.
> >>
> >> btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
> >> soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
> >>
> >> Ron
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> > I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a
> >> > strap
> >> > with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
> >> > bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
> >> > muffler guy grumbling about...
> >> >
> >> > It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
> >> > 'donut' joint stays put.
> >> >
> >> > I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
> >> >>
> >> >>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
> >> >>for my ZJ draglink.)
> >> >>
> >> >>thanks,
> >> >>
> >> >>Ron
> >> >>
> >> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
> >> >>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
> >> >>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal
> >> >>>for
> >> >>>the clamping/bolting parts.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Mike
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing.
> >> >>>>(I
> >> >>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Ron
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a
> >> >>>>>pattern
> >> >>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
> >> >>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the
> >> >>>>>ends.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a
> >> >>>>>while.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't.
> >> >>>>>The
> >> >>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
> >> >>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the
> >> >>>>>pipe
> >> >>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
> >> >>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the
> >> >>>>>bell
> >> >>>>>housing.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Mike
> >> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> >>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> >>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Hello all,
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks
> >> >>>>>>is to
> >> >>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I
> >> >>>>>>want
> >> >>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do
> >> >>>>>>that
> >> >>>>>>works better then other things ?
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold
> >> >>>>>>and
> >> >>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Ron
04-11-2006, 08:57 AM
#36
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '79 CJ5 intake/exhaust manifold gasket
Hmm, I guess more of it should have gone in the rad instead of me eh?
Mike
billy ray wrote:
>
> Mike have you been using Guinness to flush the radiator again?
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...90636987&idx=5
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:443A8897.5735D71D@sympatico.ca...
> >I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
> > Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure.
> > I broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
> > ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
> >
> > I have posted the photo here:
> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
> >
> > The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
> > wrench should even do it.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>
> >> If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
> >>
> >> I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
> >> missing might be the problem.
> >>
> >> btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
> >> soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
> >>
> >> Ron
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> > I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a
> >> > strap
> >> > with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
> >> > bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
> >> > muffler guy grumbling about...
> >> >
> >> > It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
> >> > 'donut' joint stays put.
> >> >
> >> > I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
> >> >>
> >> >>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
> >> >>for my ZJ draglink.)
> >> >>
> >> >>thanks,
> >> >>
> >> >>Ron
> >> >>
> >> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
> >> >>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
> >> >>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal
> >> >>>for
> >> >>>the clamping/bolting parts.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Mike
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing.
> >> >>>>(I
> >> >>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Ron
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a
> >> >>>>>pattern
> >> >>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
> >> >>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the
> >> >>>>>ends.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a
> >> >>>>>while.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't.
> >> >>>>>The
> >> >>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
> >> >>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the
> >> >>>>>pipe
> >> >>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
> >> >>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the
> >> >>>>>bell
> >> >>>>>housing.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Mike
> >> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> >>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> >>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Hello all,
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks
> >> >>>>>>is to
> >> >>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I
> >> >>>>>>want
> >> >>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do
> >> >>>>>>that
> >> >>>>>>works better then other things ?
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold
> >> >>>>>>and
> >> >>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Ron
Mike
billy ray wrote:
>
> Mike have you been using Guinness to flush the radiator again?
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...90636987&idx=5
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:443A8897.5735D71D@sympatico.ca...
> >I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
> > Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure.
> > I broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
> > ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
> >
> > I have posted the photo here:
> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
> >
> > The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
> > wrench should even do it.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>
> >> If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
> >>
> >> I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
> >> missing might be the problem.
> >>
> >> btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
> >> soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
> >>
> >> Ron
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> > I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a
> >> > strap
> >> > with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
> >> > bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
> >> > muffler guy grumbling about...
> >> >
> >> > It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
> >> > 'donut' joint stays put.
> >> >
> >> > I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
> >> >>
> >> >>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
> >> >>for my ZJ draglink.)
> >> >>
> >> >>thanks,
> >> >>
> >> >>Ron
> >> >>
> >> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
> >> >>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
> >> >>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal
> >> >>>for
> >> >>>the clamping/bolting parts.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Mike
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing.
> >> >>>>(I
> >> >>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Ron
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a
> >> >>>>>pattern
> >> >>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
> >> >>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the
> >> >>>>>ends.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a
> >> >>>>>while.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't.
> >> >>>>>The
> >> >>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
> >> >>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the
> >> >>>>>pipe
> >> >>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
> >> >>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the
> >> >>>>>bell
> >> >>>>>housing.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Mike
> >> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> >>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> >>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Hello all,
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks
> >> >>>>>>is to
> >> >>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I
> >> >>>>>>want
> >> >>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do
> >> >>>>>>that
> >> >>>>>>works better then other things ?
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold
> >> >>>>>>and
> >> >>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Ron
04-11-2006, 08:57 AM
#37
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '79 CJ5 intake/exhaust manifold gasket
Hmm, I guess more of it should have gone in the rad instead of me eh?
Mike
billy ray wrote:
>
> Mike have you been using Guinness to flush the radiator again?
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...90636987&idx=5
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:443A8897.5735D71D@sympatico.ca...
> >I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
> > Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure.
> > I broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
> > ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
> >
> > I have posted the photo here:
> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
> >
> > The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
> > wrench should even do it.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>
> >> If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
> >>
> >> I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
> >> missing might be the problem.
> >>
> >> btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
> >> soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
> >>
> >> Ron
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> > I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a
> >> > strap
> >> > with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
> >> > bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
> >> > muffler guy grumbling about...
> >> >
> >> > It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
> >> > 'donut' joint stays put.
> >> >
> >> > I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
> >> >>
> >> >>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
> >> >>for my ZJ draglink.)
> >> >>
> >> >>thanks,
> >> >>
> >> >>Ron
> >> >>
> >> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
> >> >>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
> >> >>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal
> >> >>>for
> >> >>>the clamping/bolting parts.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Mike
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing.
> >> >>>>(I
> >> >>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Ron
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a
> >> >>>>>pattern
> >> >>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
> >> >>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the
> >> >>>>>ends.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a
> >> >>>>>while.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't.
> >> >>>>>The
> >> >>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
> >> >>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the
> >> >>>>>pipe
> >> >>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
> >> >>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the
> >> >>>>>bell
> >> >>>>>housing.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Mike
> >> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> >>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> >>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Hello all,
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks
> >> >>>>>>is to
> >> >>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I
> >> >>>>>>want
> >> >>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do
> >> >>>>>>that
> >> >>>>>>works better then other things ?
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold
> >> >>>>>>and
> >> >>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Ron
Mike
billy ray wrote:
>
> Mike have you been using Guinness to flush the radiator again?
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...90636987&idx=5
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:443A8897.5735D71D@sympatico.ca...
> >I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
> > Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure.
> > I broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
> > ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
> >
> > I have posted the photo here:
> > http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
> >
> > The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
> > wrench should even do it.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >>
> >> If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
> >>
> >> I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
> >> missing might be the problem.
> >>
> >> btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
> >> soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
> >>
> >> Ron
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >> > I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a
> >> > strap
> >> > with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
> >> > bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
> >> > muffler guy grumbling about...
> >> >
> >> > It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
> >> > 'donut' joint stays put.
> >> >
> >> > I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
> >> >
> >> > Mike
> >> >
> >> > Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
> >> >>
> >> >>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
> >> >>for my ZJ draglink.)
> >> >>
> >> >>thanks,
> >> >>
> >> >>Ron
> >> >>
> >> >>Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
> >> >>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
> >> >>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal
> >> >>>for
> >> >>>the clamping/bolting parts.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Mike
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing.
> >> >>>>(I
> >> >>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Ron
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Mike Romain wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a
> >> >>>>>pattern
> >> >>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
> >> >>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the
> >> >>>>>ends.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a
> >> >>>>>while.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't.
> >> >>>>>The
> >> >>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
> >> >>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the
> >> >>>>>pipe
> >> >>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
> >> >>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the
> >> >>>>>bell
> >> >>>>>housing.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Mike
> >> >>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> >>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> >>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Hello all,
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks
> >> >>>>>>is to
> >> >>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I
> >> >>>>>>want
> >> >>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do
> >> >>>>>>that
> >> >>>>>>works better then other things ?
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold
> >> >>>>>>and
> >> >>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>Ron
04-14-2006, 09:34 PM
#38
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '79 CJ5 intake/exhaust manifold gasket
hmmm.. with airtools in my case probably....
I live 1.7 miles away from work, and the parts store is half way.
Scraping my windshield in winter takes 3 times longer then actually
driving to work.
But it's that's easy to install...thanks...
billy ray wrote:
> It will take you a lot longer to drive to the auto-parts store to buy the
> bracket than it will to install it.
>
>
> "Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
> news:e1eghu$v3$1@news.csc.depauw.edu...
>
>>*S* That's what my spring activity is fix the CJ bfore I take it out.
>>
>>thanks for the pics
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
>>>Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure. I
>>>broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
>>>ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
>>>
>>>I have posted the photo here:
>>>http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>>>
>>>The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
>>>wrench should even do it.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>>>>
>>>>I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
>>>>missing might be the problem.
>>>>
>>>>btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
>>>>soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>>>>
>>>>Ron
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
>>>>>with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
>>>>>bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
>>>>>muffler guy grumbling about...
>>>>>
>>>>>It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
>>>>>'donut' joint stays put.
>>>>>
>>>>>I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>>>>>>for my ZJ draglink.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>>>>>>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>>>>>>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing.
>>>>>>>>(I
>>>>>>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a
>>>>>>>>>pattern
>>>>>>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>>>>>>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the
>>>>>>>>>ends.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a
>>>>>>>>>while.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't.
>>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>>>>>>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the
>>>>>>>>>pipe
>>>>>>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>>>>>>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the
>>>>>>>>>bell
>>>>>>>>>housing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks
>>>>>>>>>>is to
>>>>>>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I
>>>>>>>>>>want
>>>>>>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do
>>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>works better then other things ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold
>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Ron
>
>
>
I live 1.7 miles away from work, and the parts store is half way.
Scraping my windshield in winter takes 3 times longer then actually
driving to work.
But it's that's easy to install...thanks...
billy ray wrote:
> It will take you a lot longer to drive to the auto-parts store to buy the
> bracket than it will to install it.
>
>
> "Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
> news:e1eghu$v3$1@news.csc.depauw.edu...
>
>>*S* That's what my spring activity is fix the CJ bfore I take it out.
>>
>>thanks for the pics
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
>>>Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure. I
>>>broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
>>>ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
>>>
>>>I have posted the photo here:
>>>http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>>>
>>>The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
>>>wrench should even do it.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>>>>
>>>>I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
>>>>missing might be the problem.
>>>>
>>>>btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
>>>>soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>>>>
>>>>Ron
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
>>>>>with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
>>>>>bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
>>>>>muffler guy grumbling about...
>>>>>
>>>>>It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
>>>>>'donut' joint stays put.
>>>>>
>>>>>I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>>>>>>for my ZJ draglink.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>>>>>>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>>>>>>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing.
>>>>>>>>(I
>>>>>>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a
>>>>>>>>>pattern
>>>>>>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>>>>>>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the
>>>>>>>>>ends.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a
>>>>>>>>>while.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't.
>>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>>>>>>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the
>>>>>>>>>pipe
>>>>>>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>>>>>>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the
>>>>>>>>>bell
>>>>>>>>>housing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks
>>>>>>>>>>is to
>>>>>>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I
>>>>>>>>>>want
>>>>>>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do
>>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>works better then other things ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold
>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Ron
>
>
>
04-14-2006, 09:34 PM
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '79 CJ5 intake/exhaust manifold gasket
hmmm.. with airtools in my case probably....
I live 1.7 miles away from work, and the parts store is half way.
Scraping my windshield in winter takes 3 times longer then actually
driving to work.
But it's that's easy to install...thanks...
billy ray wrote:
> It will take you a lot longer to drive to the auto-parts store to buy the
> bracket than it will to install it.
>
>
> "Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
> news:e1eghu$v3$1@news.csc.depauw.edu...
>
>>*S* That's what my spring activity is fix the CJ bfore I take it out.
>>
>>thanks for the pics
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
>>>Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure. I
>>>broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
>>>ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
>>>
>>>I have posted the photo here:
>>>http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>>>
>>>The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
>>>wrench should even do it.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>>>>
>>>>I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
>>>>missing might be the problem.
>>>>
>>>>btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
>>>>soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>>>>
>>>>Ron
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
>>>>>with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
>>>>>bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
>>>>>muffler guy grumbling about...
>>>>>
>>>>>It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
>>>>>'donut' joint stays put.
>>>>>
>>>>>I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>>>>>>for my ZJ draglink.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>>>>>>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>>>>>>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing.
>>>>>>>>(I
>>>>>>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a
>>>>>>>>>pattern
>>>>>>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>>>>>>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the
>>>>>>>>>ends.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a
>>>>>>>>>while.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't.
>>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>>>>>>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the
>>>>>>>>>pipe
>>>>>>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>>>>>>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the
>>>>>>>>>bell
>>>>>>>>>housing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks
>>>>>>>>>>is to
>>>>>>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I
>>>>>>>>>>want
>>>>>>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do
>>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>works better then other things ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold
>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Ron
>
>
>
I live 1.7 miles away from work, and the parts store is half way.
Scraping my windshield in winter takes 3 times longer then actually
driving to work.
But it's that's easy to install...thanks...
billy ray wrote:
> It will take you a lot longer to drive to the auto-parts store to buy the
> bracket than it will to install it.
>
>
> "Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
> news:e1eghu$v3$1@news.csc.depauw.edu...
>
>>*S* That's what my spring activity is fix the CJ bfore I take it out.
>>
>>thanks for the pics
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
>>>Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure. I
>>>broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
>>>ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
>>>
>>>I have posted the photo here:
>>>http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>>>
>>>The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
>>>wrench should even do it.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>>>>
>>>>I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
>>>>missing might be the problem.
>>>>
>>>>btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
>>>>soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>>>>
>>>>Ron
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
>>>>>with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
>>>>>bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
>>>>>muffler guy grumbling about...
>>>>>
>>>>>It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
>>>>>'donut' joint stays put.
>>>>>
>>>>>I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>>>>>>for my ZJ draglink.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>>>>>>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>>>>>>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing.
>>>>>>>>(I
>>>>>>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a
>>>>>>>>>pattern
>>>>>>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>>>>>>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the
>>>>>>>>>ends.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a
>>>>>>>>>while.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't.
>>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>>>>>>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the
>>>>>>>>>pipe
>>>>>>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>>>>>>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the
>>>>>>>>>bell
>>>>>>>>>housing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks
>>>>>>>>>>is to
>>>>>>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I
>>>>>>>>>>want
>>>>>>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do
>>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>works better then other things ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold
>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Ron
>
>
>
04-14-2006, 09:34 PM
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '79 CJ5 intake/exhaust manifold gasket
hmmm.. with airtools in my case probably....
I live 1.7 miles away from work, and the parts store is half way.
Scraping my windshield in winter takes 3 times longer then actually
driving to work.
But it's that's easy to install...thanks...
billy ray wrote:
> It will take you a lot longer to drive to the auto-parts store to buy the
> bracket than it will to install it.
>
>
> "Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
> news:e1eghu$v3$1@news.csc.depauw.edu...
>
>>*S* That's what my spring activity is fix the CJ bfore I take it out.
>>
>>thanks for the pics
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
>>>Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure. I
>>>broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
>>>ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
>>>
>>>I have posted the photo here:
>>>http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>>>
>>>The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
>>>wrench should even do it.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>>>>
>>>>I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
>>>>missing might be the problem.
>>>>
>>>>btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
>>>>soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>>>>
>>>>Ron
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
>>>>>with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
>>>>>bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
>>>>>muffler guy grumbling about...
>>>>>
>>>>>It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
>>>>>'donut' joint stays put.
>>>>>
>>>>>I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>>>>>>for my ZJ draglink.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>>>>>>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>>>>>>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing.
>>>>>>>>(I
>>>>>>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a
>>>>>>>>>pattern
>>>>>>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>>>>>>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the
>>>>>>>>>ends.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a
>>>>>>>>>while.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't.
>>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>>>>>>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the
>>>>>>>>>pipe
>>>>>>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>>>>>>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the
>>>>>>>>>bell
>>>>>>>>>housing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks
>>>>>>>>>>is to
>>>>>>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I
>>>>>>>>>>want
>>>>>>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do
>>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>works better then other things ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold
>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Ron
>
>
>
I live 1.7 miles away from work, and the parts store is half way.
Scraping my windshield in winter takes 3 times longer then actually
driving to work.
But it's that's easy to install...thanks...
billy ray wrote:
> It will take you a lot longer to drive to the auto-parts store to buy the
> bracket than it will to install it.
>
>
> "Ron Croonenberg" <ronc@depauw.edu> wrote in message
> news:e1eghu$v3$1@news.csc.depauw.edu...
>
>>*S* That's what my spring activity is fix the CJ bfore I take it out.
>>
>>thanks for the pics
>>
>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>>I did take a photo of mine and noticed it needs attention pretty quick.
>>>Well it's broke and I don't have a leak 'yet' but soon will I am sure. I
>>>broke/shattered that engine mount and the twisting seems to have
>>>ripped the hanger. Something else to fix...
>>>
>>>I have posted the photo here:
>>>http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>>>
>>>The nuts on the studs for the pipe should be brass. A soak and a normal
>>>wrench should even do it.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>
>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If it is opretty straight forward then that's ok.
>>>>
>>>>I have been fighting an exhaust leak several times. Soo that hanger
>>>>missing might be the problem.
>>>>
>>>>btw, are there some tricks to get the pipe of the manyfold ? other then
>>>>soak it in oil for a while and use an airgun ?
>>>>
>>>>Ron
>>>>
>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I just have a universal one on. It has a clamp for the pipe and a strap
>>>>>with holes punched in it. I used a large washer on either side and one
>>>>>bell housing bolt. I believe there is a stock bracket I once heard the
>>>>>muffler guy grumbling about...
>>>>>
>>>>>It just keeps the pipe moving in tune with the engine so the manifold
>>>>>'donut' joint stays put.
>>>>>
>>>>>I could take a photo and email it to you if you would like.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>what does the hanger near teh bellhousing look like ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(You guys have been very helpfull in sending links to pictures
>>>>>>for my ZJ draglink.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes, you can use one of those rubber strap type universal hangers. I
>>>>>>>have compared the auto parts stores hangers with ones from a muffler
>>>>>>>shop and the muffler shop ones are thicker rubber and thicker metal
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>the clamping/bolting parts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ahhh...ok... I think I am missing that hanger near the bellhousing.
>>>>>>>>(I
>>>>>>>>am pretty sure it is missing. Can those be found after market ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Ron
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Mike Romain wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>All the ones I have seen will tighten up just fine. There is a
>>>>>>>>>pattern
>>>>>>>>>to tightening it down, the same as if you were doing a head gasket.
>>>>>>>>>Start in the middle and do a circular spiral pattern out to the
>>>>>>>>>ends.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I also find they need a second torque down after running it for a
>>>>>>>>>while.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I think I used a 'felpro' (sp?) gasket.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The exhaust pipe fitting might have a donut gasket, but most don't.
>>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>>flange is preformed on the manifold. The trick to keeping that one
>>>>>>>>>tight is to have a good solid hanger at the bell housing. If the
>>>>>>>>>pipe
>>>>>>>>>runs free to the muffler, it will be swingy and always leak. There
>>>>>>>>>should be a hanger right by the clutch bell crank linkage on the
>>>>>>>>>bell
>>>>>>>>>housing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Mike
>>>>>>>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>>>>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>>>>>>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>>>>>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>>>>>>>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I know that a permanent solution for intake/exhaust manifold leaks
>>>>>>>>>>is to
>>>>>>>>>>go to headers. But I want to do an engine swap at some point so I
>>>>>>>>>>want
>>>>>>>>>>to mess with it for a bit longer.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Is there some specific gasket, or something else, one can use/do
>>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>works better then other things ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I have a leak between manifold and engine and/or exhaust manifold
>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>exhaust pipe (probably both)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Ron
>
>
>
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