76 CJ-5 questions.......
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Re: 76 CJ-5 questions.......
Ok, stock I believe there should be a nipple on the bottom of the air
filter intake snorkel. The venturi effect there sucks the fumes out of
the activated charcoal that is in the canister.
The canister has a $2.00 air filter on the bottom that is usually just
called an emissions filter. The old filter is a bugger to dig out and
then the new one just tucks in.
How are the wires? I had a miss and a sputter at idle the other day and
one of my plug wires had vibrated loose. Plugged it back and it purrs
again.
Mike
Steve G wrote:
>
> > That is the 'charcoal' canister or gas tank vent I was talking about. I
> > can't see the purge valve in your photo. What kind does it have on it?
> > You have the line that says 'carb bowl', one that says 'Tank' one that
> > maybe says 'purge?' Are there any more off the top?
>
> Nope, i took it completly out of its bracket.. only 3 ports on it..
> Tank...Carb Bowl...Purge
>
> >
> > Where does the 'purge' line go to? Does it just go to the snorkel end
> > of the air filter?
>
> about 6" worth of hose open to fresh air
>
> > I would open it to look for signs of arcing at the contacts. If the
> > rotor is a mis match, the cap will arc out fast and show burn marks or
> > buildup on the contacts. This can cause sputtering.
> >
> Looks clean on the edge of the button and the inside of the cap
filter intake snorkel. The venturi effect there sucks the fumes out of
the activated charcoal that is in the canister.
The canister has a $2.00 air filter on the bottom that is usually just
called an emissions filter. The old filter is a bugger to dig out and
then the new one just tucks in.
How are the wires? I had a miss and a sputter at idle the other day and
one of my plug wires had vibrated loose. Plugged it back and it purrs
again.
Mike
Steve G wrote:
>
> > That is the 'charcoal' canister or gas tank vent I was talking about. I
> > can't see the purge valve in your photo. What kind does it have on it?
> > You have the line that says 'carb bowl', one that says 'Tank' one that
> > maybe says 'purge?' Are there any more off the top?
>
> Nope, i took it completly out of its bracket.. only 3 ports on it..
> Tank...Carb Bowl...Purge
>
> >
> > Where does the 'purge' line go to? Does it just go to the snorkel end
> > of the air filter?
>
> about 6" worth of hose open to fresh air
>
> > I would open it to look for signs of arcing at the contacts. If the
> > rotor is a mis match, the cap will arc out fast and show burn marks or
> > buildup on the contacts. This can cause sputtering.
> >
> Looks clean on the edge of the button and the inside of the cap
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Re: 76 CJ-5 questions.......
PMFJI on this again. I looked at the evap system on my resto '76 CJ5 this
afternoon and dug out the original Carter carb, which was replaced with a
Weber.
There are 3 hoses from the canister. (Later years 4 hoses, with a vacuum
control for the purge.) One small hose vents the tank (mine has a green
plastic hose that runs along the from from the tank vent valve) and another
small hose purges the canister (on a stocker runs it to a venturi port at
the very end of the air horn on the air cleaner. I run the purge line on
mine to a port on the side of the Weber.) These should be marked on the
canister itself.
Finally, there's a big bowl vent hose, which is the large one that should
run from the carb to the big port on the canister.
What I've noticed on a lot of these old rigs is that the air cleaners are
replaced with either an aftermarket unit, or one from a later year Jeep, and
the purge line is left open, like on his. This allows the canister to get
saturated, but even worse lets moisture & crap to get drawn into the
canister, if not all the way back into the tank.
FWIW, I tried to get a replacement canister a few years ago and never did
find one. I did replace the little gauze filter at the bottom of the thing,
which is a simple Fram part.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43272485.E53A6CCA@sympatico.ca...
> Ok, stock I believe there should be a nipple on the bottom of the air
> filter intake snorkel. The venturi effect there sucks the fumes out of
> the activated charcoal that is in the canister.
>
> The canister has a $2.00 air filter on the bottom that is usually just
> called an emissions filter. The old filter is a bugger to dig out and
> then the new one just tucks in.
>
> How are the wires? I had a miss and a sputter at idle the other day and
> one of my plug wires had vibrated loose. Plugged it back and it purrs
> again.
>
> Mike
>
> Steve G wrote:
>>
>> > That is the 'charcoal' canister or gas tank vent I was talking about.
>> > I
>> > can't see the purge valve in your photo. What kind does it have on it?
>> > You have the line that says 'carb bowl', one that says 'Tank' one that
>> > maybe says 'purge?' Are there any more off the top?
>>
>> Nope, i took it completly out of its bracket.. only 3 ports on it..
>> Tank...Carb Bowl...Purge
>>
>> >
>> > Where does the 'purge' line go to? Does it just go to the snorkel end
>> > of the air filter?
>>
>> about 6" worth of hose open to fresh air
>>
>> > I would open it to look for signs of arcing at the contacts. If the
>> > rotor is a mis match, the cap will arc out fast and show burn marks or
>> > buildup on the contacts. This can cause sputtering.
>> >
>> Looks clean on the edge of the button and the inside of the cap
afternoon and dug out the original Carter carb, which was replaced with a
Weber.
There are 3 hoses from the canister. (Later years 4 hoses, with a vacuum
control for the purge.) One small hose vents the tank (mine has a green
plastic hose that runs along the from from the tank vent valve) and another
small hose purges the canister (on a stocker runs it to a venturi port at
the very end of the air horn on the air cleaner. I run the purge line on
mine to a port on the side of the Weber.) These should be marked on the
canister itself.
Finally, there's a big bowl vent hose, which is the large one that should
run from the carb to the big port on the canister.
What I've noticed on a lot of these old rigs is that the air cleaners are
replaced with either an aftermarket unit, or one from a later year Jeep, and
the purge line is left open, like on his. This allows the canister to get
saturated, but even worse lets moisture & crap to get drawn into the
canister, if not all the way back into the tank.
FWIW, I tried to get a replacement canister a few years ago and never did
find one. I did replace the little gauze filter at the bottom of the thing,
which is a simple Fram part.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43272485.E53A6CCA@sympatico.ca...
> Ok, stock I believe there should be a nipple on the bottom of the air
> filter intake snorkel. The venturi effect there sucks the fumes out of
> the activated charcoal that is in the canister.
>
> The canister has a $2.00 air filter on the bottom that is usually just
> called an emissions filter. The old filter is a bugger to dig out and
> then the new one just tucks in.
>
> How are the wires? I had a miss and a sputter at idle the other day and
> one of my plug wires had vibrated loose. Plugged it back and it purrs
> again.
>
> Mike
>
> Steve G wrote:
>>
>> > That is the 'charcoal' canister or gas tank vent I was talking about.
>> > I
>> > can't see the purge valve in your photo. What kind does it have on it?
>> > You have the line that says 'carb bowl', one that says 'Tank' one that
>> > maybe says 'purge?' Are there any more off the top?
>>
>> Nope, i took it completly out of its bracket.. only 3 ports on it..
>> Tank...Carb Bowl...Purge
>>
>> >
>> > Where does the 'purge' line go to? Does it just go to the snorkel end
>> > of the air filter?
>>
>> about 6" worth of hose open to fresh air
>>
>> > I would open it to look for signs of arcing at the contacts. If the
>> > rotor is a mis match, the cap will arc out fast and show burn marks or
>> > buildup on the contacts. This can cause sputtering.
>> >
>> Looks clean on the edge of the button and the inside of the cap
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Re: 76 CJ-5 questions.......
PMFJI on this again. I looked at the evap system on my resto '76 CJ5 this
afternoon and dug out the original Carter carb, which was replaced with a
Weber.
There are 3 hoses from the canister. (Later years 4 hoses, with a vacuum
control for the purge.) One small hose vents the tank (mine has a green
plastic hose that runs along the from from the tank vent valve) and another
small hose purges the canister (on a stocker runs it to a venturi port at
the very end of the air horn on the air cleaner. I run the purge line on
mine to a port on the side of the Weber.) These should be marked on the
canister itself.
Finally, there's a big bowl vent hose, which is the large one that should
run from the carb to the big port on the canister.
What I've noticed on a lot of these old rigs is that the air cleaners are
replaced with either an aftermarket unit, or one from a later year Jeep, and
the purge line is left open, like on his. This allows the canister to get
saturated, but even worse lets moisture & crap to get drawn into the
canister, if not all the way back into the tank.
FWIW, I tried to get a replacement canister a few years ago and never did
find one. I did replace the little gauze filter at the bottom of the thing,
which is a simple Fram part.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43272485.E53A6CCA@sympatico.ca...
> Ok, stock I believe there should be a nipple on the bottom of the air
> filter intake snorkel. The venturi effect there sucks the fumes out of
> the activated charcoal that is in the canister.
>
> The canister has a $2.00 air filter on the bottom that is usually just
> called an emissions filter. The old filter is a bugger to dig out and
> then the new one just tucks in.
>
> How are the wires? I had a miss and a sputter at idle the other day and
> one of my plug wires had vibrated loose. Plugged it back and it purrs
> again.
>
> Mike
>
> Steve G wrote:
>>
>> > That is the 'charcoal' canister or gas tank vent I was talking about.
>> > I
>> > can't see the purge valve in your photo. What kind does it have on it?
>> > You have the line that says 'carb bowl', one that says 'Tank' one that
>> > maybe says 'purge?' Are there any more off the top?
>>
>> Nope, i took it completly out of its bracket.. only 3 ports on it..
>> Tank...Carb Bowl...Purge
>>
>> >
>> > Where does the 'purge' line go to? Does it just go to the snorkel end
>> > of the air filter?
>>
>> about 6" worth of hose open to fresh air
>>
>> > I would open it to look for signs of arcing at the contacts. If the
>> > rotor is a mis match, the cap will arc out fast and show burn marks or
>> > buildup on the contacts. This can cause sputtering.
>> >
>> Looks clean on the edge of the button and the inside of the cap
afternoon and dug out the original Carter carb, which was replaced with a
Weber.
There are 3 hoses from the canister. (Later years 4 hoses, with a vacuum
control for the purge.) One small hose vents the tank (mine has a green
plastic hose that runs along the from from the tank vent valve) and another
small hose purges the canister (on a stocker runs it to a venturi port at
the very end of the air horn on the air cleaner. I run the purge line on
mine to a port on the side of the Weber.) These should be marked on the
canister itself.
Finally, there's a big bowl vent hose, which is the large one that should
run from the carb to the big port on the canister.
What I've noticed on a lot of these old rigs is that the air cleaners are
replaced with either an aftermarket unit, or one from a later year Jeep, and
the purge line is left open, like on his. This allows the canister to get
saturated, but even worse lets moisture & crap to get drawn into the
canister, if not all the way back into the tank.
FWIW, I tried to get a replacement canister a few years ago and never did
find one. I did replace the little gauze filter at the bottom of the thing,
which is a simple Fram part.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43272485.E53A6CCA@sympatico.ca...
> Ok, stock I believe there should be a nipple on the bottom of the air
> filter intake snorkel. The venturi effect there sucks the fumes out of
> the activated charcoal that is in the canister.
>
> The canister has a $2.00 air filter on the bottom that is usually just
> called an emissions filter. The old filter is a bugger to dig out and
> then the new one just tucks in.
>
> How are the wires? I had a miss and a sputter at idle the other day and
> one of my plug wires had vibrated loose. Plugged it back and it purrs
> again.
>
> Mike
>
> Steve G wrote:
>>
>> > That is the 'charcoal' canister or gas tank vent I was talking about.
>> > I
>> > can't see the purge valve in your photo. What kind does it have on it?
>> > You have the line that says 'carb bowl', one that says 'Tank' one that
>> > maybe says 'purge?' Are there any more off the top?
>>
>> Nope, i took it completly out of its bracket.. only 3 ports on it..
>> Tank...Carb Bowl...Purge
>>
>> >
>> > Where does the 'purge' line go to? Does it just go to the snorkel end
>> > of the air filter?
>>
>> about 6" worth of hose open to fresh air
>>
>> > I would open it to look for signs of arcing at the contacts. If the
>> > rotor is a mis match, the cap will arc out fast and show burn marks or
>> > buildup on the contacts. This can cause sputtering.
>> >
>> Looks clean on the edge of the button and the inside of the cap
#84
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Re: 76 CJ-5 questions.......
PMFJI on this again. I looked at the evap system on my resto '76 CJ5 this
afternoon and dug out the original Carter carb, which was replaced with a
Weber.
There are 3 hoses from the canister. (Later years 4 hoses, with a vacuum
control for the purge.) One small hose vents the tank (mine has a green
plastic hose that runs along the from from the tank vent valve) and another
small hose purges the canister (on a stocker runs it to a venturi port at
the very end of the air horn on the air cleaner. I run the purge line on
mine to a port on the side of the Weber.) These should be marked on the
canister itself.
Finally, there's a big bowl vent hose, which is the large one that should
run from the carb to the big port on the canister.
What I've noticed on a lot of these old rigs is that the air cleaners are
replaced with either an aftermarket unit, or one from a later year Jeep, and
the purge line is left open, like on his. This allows the canister to get
saturated, but even worse lets moisture & crap to get drawn into the
canister, if not all the way back into the tank.
FWIW, I tried to get a replacement canister a few years ago and never did
find one. I did replace the little gauze filter at the bottom of the thing,
which is a simple Fram part.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43272485.E53A6CCA@sympatico.ca...
> Ok, stock I believe there should be a nipple on the bottom of the air
> filter intake snorkel. The venturi effect there sucks the fumes out of
> the activated charcoal that is in the canister.
>
> The canister has a $2.00 air filter on the bottom that is usually just
> called an emissions filter. The old filter is a bugger to dig out and
> then the new one just tucks in.
>
> How are the wires? I had a miss and a sputter at idle the other day and
> one of my plug wires had vibrated loose. Plugged it back and it purrs
> again.
>
> Mike
>
> Steve G wrote:
>>
>> > That is the 'charcoal' canister or gas tank vent I was talking about.
>> > I
>> > can't see the purge valve in your photo. What kind does it have on it?
>> > You have the line that says 'carb bowl', one that says 'Tank' one that
>> > maybe says 'purge?' Are there any more off the top?
>>
>> Nope, i took it completly out of its bracket.. only 3 ports on it..
>> Tank...Carb Bowl...Purge
>>
>> >
>> > Where does the 'purge' line go to? Does it just go to the snorkel end
>> > of the air filter?
>>
>> about 6" worth of hose open to fresh air
>>
>> > I would open it to look for signs of arcing at the contacts. If the
>> > rotor is a mis match, the cap will arc out fast and show burn marks or
>> > buildup on the contacts. This can cause sputtering.
>> >
>> Looks clean on the edge of the button and the inside of the cap
afternoon and dug out the original Carter carb, which was replaced with a
Weber.
There are 3 hoses from the canister. (Later years 4 hoses, with a vacuum
control for the purge.) One small hose vents the tank (mine has a green
plastic hose that runs along the from from the tank vent valve) and another
small hose purges the canister (on a stocker runs it to a venturi port at
the very end of the air horn on the air cleaner. I run the purge line on
mine to a port on the side of the Weber.) These should be marked on the
canister itself.
Finally, there's a big bowl vent hose, which is the large one that should
run from the carb to the big port on the canister.
What I've noticed on a lot of these old rigs is that the air cleaners are
replaced with either an aftermarket unit, or one from a later year Jeep, and
the purge line is left open, like on his. This allows the canister to get
saturated, but even worse lets moisture & crap to get drawn into the
canister, if not all the way back into the tank.
FWIW, I tried to get a replacement canister a few years ago and never did
find one. I did replace the little gauze filter at the bottom of the thing,
which is a simple Fram part.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43272485.E53A6CCA@sympatico.ca...
> Ok, stock I believe there should be a nipple on the bottom of the air
> filter intake snorkel. The venturi effect there sucks the fumes out of
> the activated charcoal that is in the canister.
>
> The canister has a $2.00 air filter on the bottom that is usually just
> called an emissions filter. The old filter is a bugger to dig out and
> then the new one just tucks in.
>
> How are the wires? I had a miss and a sputter at idle the other day and
> one of my plug wires had vibrated loose. Plugged it back and it purrs
> again.
>
> Mike
>
> Steve G wrote:
>>
>> > That is the 'charcoal' canister or gas tank vent I was talking about.
>> > I
>> > can't see the purge valve in your photo. What kind does it have on it?
>> > You have the line that says 'carb bowl', one that says 'Tank' one that
>> > maybe says 'purge?' Are there any more off the top?
>>
>> Nope, i took it completly out of its bracket.. only 3 ports on it..
>> Tank...Carb Bowl...Purge
>>
>> >
>> > Where does the 'purge' line go to? Does it just go to the snorkel end
>> > of the air filter?
>>
>> about 6" worth of hose open to fresh air
>>
>> > I would open it to look for signs of arcing at the contacts. If the
>> > rotor is a mis match, the cap will arc out fast and show burn marks or
>> > buildup on the contacts. This can cause sputtering.
>> >
>> Looks clean on the edge of the button and the inside of the cap
#85
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Re: 76 CJ-5 questions.......
PMFJI on this again. I looked at the evap system on my resto '76 CJ5 this
afternoon and dug out the original Carter carb, which was replaced with a
Weber.
There are 3 hoses from the canister. (Later years 4 hoses, with a vacuum
control for the purge.) One small hose vents the tank (mine has a green
plastic hose that runs along the from from the tank vent valve) and another
small hose purges the canister (on a stocker runs it to a venturi port at
the very end of the air horn on the air cleaner. I run the purge line on
mine to a port on the side of the Weber.) These should be marked on the
canister itself.
Finally, there's a big bowl vent hose, which is the large one that should
run from the carb to the big port on the canister.
What I've noticed on a lot of these old rigs is that the air cleaners are
replaced with either an aftermarket unit, or one from a later year Jeep, and
the purge line is left open, like on his. This allows the canister to get
saturated, but even worse lets moisture & crap to get drawn into the
canister, if not all the way back into the tank.
FWIW, I tried to get a replacement canister a few years ago and never did
find one. I did replace the little gauze filter at the bottom of the thing,
which is a simple Fram part.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43272485.E53A6CCA@sympatico.ca...
> Ok, stock I believe there should be a nipple on the bottom of the air
> filter intake snorkel. The venturi effect there sucks the fumes out of
> the activated charcoal that is in the canister.
>
> The canister has a $2.00 air filter on the bottom that is usually just
> called an emissions filter. The old filter is a bugger to dig out and
> then the new one just tucks in.
>
> How are the wires? I had a miss and a sputter at idle the other day and
> one of my plug wires had vibrated loose. Plugged it back and it purrs
> again.
>
> Mike
>
> Steve G wrote:
>>
>> > That is the 'charcoal' canister or gas tank vent I was talking about.
>> > I
>> > can't see the purge valve in your photo. What kind does it have on it?
>> > You have the line that says 'carb bowl', one that says 'Tank' one that
>> > maybe says 'purge?' Are there any more off the top?
>>
>> Nope, i took it completly out of its bracket.. only 3 ports on it..
>> Tank...Carb Bowl...Purge
>>
>> >
>> > Where does the 'purge' line go to? Does it just go to the snorkel end
>> > of the air filter?
>>
>> about 6" worth of hose open to fresh air
>>
>> > I would open it to look for signs of arcing at the contacts. If the
>> > rotor is a mis match, the cap will arc out fast and show burn marks or
>> > buildup on the contacts. This can cause sputtering.
>> >
>> Looks clean on the edge of the button and the inside of the cap
afternoon and dug out the original Carter carb, which was replaced with a
Weber.
There are 3 hoses from the canister. (Later years 4 hoses, with a vacuum
control for the purge.) One small hose vents the tank (mine has a green
plastic hose that runs along the from from the tank vent valve) and another
small hose purges the canister (on a stocker runs it to a venturi port at
the very end of the air horn on the air cleaner. I run the purge line on
mine to a port on the side of the Weber.) These should be marked on the
canister itself.
Finally, there's a big bowl vent hose, which is the large one that should
run from the carb to the big port on the canister.
What I've noticed on a lot of these old rigs is that the air cleaners are
replaced with either an aftermarket unit, or one from a later year Jeep, and
the purge line is left open, like on his. This allows the canister to get
saturated, but even worse lets moisture & crap to get drawn into the
canister, if not all the way back into the tank.
FWIW, I tried to get a replacement canister a few years ago and never did
find one. I did replace the little gauze filter at the bottom of the thing,
which is a simple Fram part.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43272485.E53A6CCA@sympatico.ca...
> Ok, stock I believe there should be a nipple on the bottom of the air
> filter intake snorkel. The venturi effect there sucks the fumes out of
> the activated charcoal that is in the canister.
>
> The canister has a $2.00 air filter on the bottom that is usually just
> called an emissions filter. The old filter is a bugger to dig out and
> then the new one just tucks in.
>
> How are the wires? I had a miss and a sputter at idle the other day and
> one of my plug wires had vibrated loose. Plugged it back and it purrs
> again.
>
> Mike
>
> Steve G wrote:
>>
>> > That is the 'charcoal' canister or gas tank vent I was talking about.
>> > I
>> > can't see the purge valve in your photo. What kind does it have on it?
>> > You have the line that says 'carb bowl', one that says 'Tank' one that
>> > maybe says 'purge?' Are there any more off the top?
>>
>> Nope, i took it completly out of its bracket.. only 3 ports on it..
>> Tank...Carb Bowl...Purge
>>
>> >
>> > Where does the 'purge' line go to? Does it just go to the snorkel end
>> > of the air filter?
>>
>> about 6" worth of hose open to fresh air
>>
>> > I would open it to look for signs of arcing at the contacts. If the
>> > rotor is a mis match, the cap will arc out fast and show burn marks or
>> > buildup on the contacts. This can cause sputtering.
>> >
>> Looks clean on the edge of the button and the inside of the cap
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