Just so you know, 'Every' time I cross water and I do a grease job as
soon as I get home, I get a whole 'lot' of water out of every u-joint!

I thought I would be 'smart' and put those heavy duty 'lifetime' non
grease joints in when I rebuilt it. Well, that was a mistake. They
'all died young. At one point I took 6 at once back for a refund.

One of the damn things only lasted 8 months. I had to take it apart for
something else and the caps were already full of that milky water/oil
mix crud.

If you have been using your Jeep under water and haven't greased it, you
should to a careful inspection of the u-joint caps for rust stains. All
of them. If the front axle u-joints are rust stained, that could be a
source for vibes.

Another strange source for vibes is the radiator fan. If it's clutch is
worn out, it can make the strangest vibe going that seems to come from
everywhere....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Troy wrote:
>
> Damn I should have done that today while I was under it. I'll try that
> tomorrow. So if the vibes do go away then the driveshaft would be the
> culprit? I noticed in the link Bill posted (thanks Bill!) that the
> driveshaft had a rubber boot around it where mine does not. I was
> underwater with the thing, and the driveshaft without the boots is splined
> and slides into the rest of the shaft, looks like water/mud could have
> gotten in there maybe? I can't imagine why I dont have the boot on it. The
> shop who installed the cv driveshaft is supposed to be reputable, it's a
> nationwide chain. (4wheelparts&more) but this was a while ago.
>
> I shouldn't give up I guess, as long as ya'll have stuff for me to check
> I'll keep checking.
>
> What else should I be trying here? Maybe if I can make a big list I'll
> spend all day trying things out.
>
> Troy

 

Just so you know, 'Every' time I cross water and I do a grease job as
soon as I get home, I get a whole 'lot' of water out of every u-joint!

I thought I would be 'smart' and put those heavy duty 'lifetime' non
grease joints in when I rebuilt it. Well, that was a mistake. They
'all died young. At one point I took 6 at once back for a refund.

One of the damn things only lasted 8 months. I had to take it apart for
something else and the caps were already full of that milky water/oil
mix crud.

If you have been using your Jeep under water and haven't greased it, you
should to a careful inspection of the u-joint caps for rust stains. All
of them. If the front axle u-joints are rust stained, that could be a
source for vibes.

Another strange source for vibes is the radiator fan. If it's clutch is
worn out, it can make the strangest vibe going that seems to come from
everywhere....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Troy wrote:
>
> Damn I should have done that today while I was under it. I'll try that
> tomorrow. So if the vibes do go away then the driveshaft would be the
> culprit? I noticed in the link Bill posted (thanks Bill!) that the
> driveshaft had a rubber boot around it where mine does not. I was
> underwater with the thing, and the driveshaft without the boots is splined
> and slides into the rest of the shaft, looks like water/mud could have
> gotten in there maybe? I can't imagine why I dont have the boot on it. The
> shop who installed the cv driveshaft is supposed to be reputable, it's a
> nationwide chain. (4wheelparts&more) but this was a while ago.
>
> I shouldn't give up I guess, as long as ya'll have stuff for me to check
> I'll keep checking.
>
> What else should I be trying here? Maybe if I can make a big list I'll
> spend all day trying things out.
>
> Troy

 

Just so you know, 'Every' time I cross water and I do a grease job as
soon as I get home, I get a whole 'lot' of water out of every u-joint!

I thought I would be 'smart' and put those heavy duty 'lifetime' non
grease joints in when I rebuilt it. Well, that was a mistake. They
'all died young. At one point I took 6 at once back for a refund.

One of the damn things only lasted 8 months. I had to take it apart for
something else and the caps were already full of that milky water/oil
mix crud.

If you have been using your Jeep under water and haven't greased it, you
should to a careful inspection of the u-joint caps for rust stains. All
of them. If the front axle u-joints are rust stained, that could be a
source for vibes.

Another strange source for vibes is the radiator fan. If it's clutch is
worn out, it can make the strangest vibe going that seems to come from
everywhere....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Troy wrote:
>
> Damn I should have done that today while I was under it. I'll try that
> tomorrow. So if the vibes do go away then the driveshaft would be the
> culprit? I noticed in the link Bill posted (thanks Bill!) that the
> driveshaft had a rubber boot around it where mine does not. I was
> underwater with the thing, and the driveshaft without the boots is splined
> and slides into the rest of the shaft, looks like water/mud could have
> gotten in there maybe? I can't imagine why I dont have the boot on it. The
> shop who installed the cv driveshaft is supposed to be reputable, it's a
> nationwide chain. (4wheelparts&more) but this was a while ago.
>
> I shouldn't give up I guess, as long as ya'll have stuff for me to check
> I'll keep checking.
>
> What else should I be trying here? Maybe if I can make a big list I'll
> spend all day trying things out.
>
> Troy

 

This is strange because driveline angle is your number one suspect, and
locker NEVER means lsd.

Earle

"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:6fOdnaxE6rwaZgTZnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> If it is I'll be pretty mad at the shop who worked on it. What else that
> gets me is that before I had the rear upper adjustable control arms, I
asked
> the last shop guy to check all the angles n stuff, and when I picked it up
> after he worked on it I asked if he checked the driveline angles and he
said
> Yup, everything is fine. Well before I added those control arms the
pinion
> was not pointing up at the transfer case like it should and I had more
vibes
> than I do now.
>
> Come to think of it, I also paid him to install a locker, and when I got
it
> back he had put in a limited slip... I took it back and told him locker,
as
> in Detroit Locker, and he said oops usually locker means a lsd? I'm not
> sure about how much he knows about jeep drivelines so I haven't been back
> since.
>
> Troy
>
>

 

This is strange because driveline angle is your number one suspect, and
locker NEVER means lsd.

Earle

"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:6fOdnaxE6rwaZgTZnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> If it is I'll be pretty mad at the shop who worked on it. What else that
> gets me is that before I had the rear upper adjustable control arms, I
asked
> the last shop guy to check all the angles n stuff, and when I picked it up
> after he worked on it I asked if he checked the driveline angles and he
said
> Yup, everything is fine. Well before I added those control arms the
pinion
> was not pointing up at the transfer case like it should and I had more
vibes
> than I do now.
>
> Come to think of it, I also paid him to install a locker, and when I got
it
> back he had put in a limited slip... I took it back and told him locker,
as
> in Detroit Locker, and he said oops usually locker means a lsd? I'm not
> sure about how much he knows about jeep drivelines so I haven't been back
> since.
>
> Troy
>
>

 

This is strange because driveline angle is your number one suspect, and
locker NEVER means lsd.

Earle

"Troy" <@ .> wrote in message
news:6fOdnaxE6rwaZgTZnZ2dnUVZ_oqdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> If it is I'll be pretty mad at the shop who worked on it. What else that
> gets me is that before I had the rear upper adjustable control arms, I
asked
> the last shop guy to check all the angles n stuff, and when I picked it up
> after he worked on it I asked if he checked the driveline angles and he
said
> Yup, everything is fine. Well before I added those control arms the
pinion
> was not pointing up at the transfer case like it should and I had more
vibes
> than I do now.
>
> Come to think of it, I also paid him to install a locker, and when I got
it
> back he had put in a limited slip... I took it back and told him locker,
as
> in Detroit Locker, and he said oops usually locker means a lsd? I'm not
> sure about how much he knows about jeep drivelines so I haven't been back
> since.
>
> Troy
>
>

 

Woohoo!

Today I went and removed the transfer case spacers and readjusted my rear
upper control arms and drove it. I think I got the angle pretty good
because the vibes weren't that bad, but still there. So I took it home and
removed the rear driveshaft. I noticed when it was off there was some ring
type piece just flappin around in the middle of the cv joint. I drove it to
where I can hit high speed and didn't have any vibes at all. I should have
taken that thing off first, the front one was a pain in the a$$.

I took the shaft to a different driveline shop just now. They called the
mech. in and he took one look at it and knew what it went on. So now I feel
alot better about leaving it there. He said the cv joint will have to be
replaced and he will check the ujoints out for me. Also he will add a
grease fitting on the driveshaft itself, this one didn't have one. I also
asked to have it balanced while its there. All for about $160 including
labor.

Thanks to all ya'll who told me what to do, lol. I'm gonna go crack open a
beer and finally get to rest for a few days until it's back, Monday.

Thanks again!

Troy

"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
news:9Djmg.26543$VE1.15862@newssvr14.news.prodigy. com...
> Now put the front shaft back on and pull off the rear shaft and drive it
> in 4wd.
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
> Troy wrote:
>> Heh I figured you wouldn't let me get off that easy. Luckily I guessed
>> you wouldn't so I did that. And I give up... the vibes are still there.
>> I'll let you know what the shop says when they get their hands on it.
>>
>> Troy

 

Woohoo!

Today I went and removed the transfer case spacers and readjusted my rear
upper control arms and drove it. I think I got the angle pretty good
because the vibes weren't that bad, but still there. So I took it home and
removed the rear driveshaft. I noticed when it was off there was some ring
type piece just flappin around in the middle of the cv joint. I drove it to
where I can hit high speed and didn't have any vibes at all. I should have
taken that thing off first, the front one was a pain in the a$$.

I took the shaft to a different driveline shop just now. They called the
mech. in and he took one look at it and knew what it went on. So now I feel
alot better about leaving it there. He said the cv joint will have to be
replaced and he will check the ujoints out for me. Also he will add a
grease fitting on the driveshaft itself, this one didn't have one. I also
asked to have it balanced while its there. All for about $160 including
labor.

Thanks to all ya'll who told me what to do, lol. I'm gonna go crack open a
beer and finally get to rest for a few days until it's back, Monday.

Thanks again!

Troy

"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
news:9Djmg.26543$VE1.15862@newssvr14.news.prodigy. com...
> Now put the front shaft back on and pull off the rear shaft and drive it
> in 4wd.
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
> Troy wrote:
>> Heh I figured you wouldn't let me get off that easy. Luckily I guessed
>> you wouldn't so I did that. And I give up... the vibes are still there.
>> I'll let you know what the shop says when they get their hands on it.
>>
>> Troy

 

Woohoo!

Today I went and removed the transfer case spacers and readjusted my rear
upper control arms and drove it. I think I got the angle pretty good
because the vibes weren't that bad, but still there. So I took it home and
removed the rear driveshaft. I noticed when it was off there was some ring
type piece just flappin around in the middle of the cv joint. I drove it to
where I can hit high speed and didn't have any vibes at all. I should have
taken that thing off first, the front one was a pain in the a$$.

I took the shaft to a different driveline shop just now. They called the
mech. in and he took one look at it and knew what it went on. So now I feel
alot better about leaving it there. He said the cv joint will have to be
replaced and he will check the ujoints out for me. Also he will add a
grease fitting on the driveshaft itself, this one didn't have one. I also
asked to have it balanced while its there. All for about $160 including
labor.

Thanks to all ya'll who told me what to do, lol. I'm gonna go crack open a
beer and finally get to rest for a few days until it's back, Monday.

Thanks again!

Troy

"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
news:9Djmg.26543$VE1.15862@newssvr14.news.prodigy. com...
> Now put the front shaft back on and pull off the rear shaft and drive it
> in 4wd.
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
> Troy wrote:
>> Heh I figured you wouldn't let me get off that easy. Luckily I guessed
>> you wouldn't so I did that. And I give up... the vibes are still there.
>> I'll let you know what the shop says when they get their hands on it.
>>
>> Troy

 

Cool, thanks for the follow up.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Troy wrote:
>
> Woohoo!
>
> Today I went and removed the transfer case spacers and readjusted my rear
> upper control arms and drove it. I think I got the angle pretty good
> because the vibes weren't that bad, but still there. So I took it home and
> removed the rear driveshaft. I noticed when it was off there was some ring
> type piece just flappin around in the middle of the cv joint. I drove it to
> where I can hit high speed and didn't have any vibes at all. I should have
> taken that thing off first, the front one was a pain in the a$$.
>
> I took the shaft to a different driveline shop just now. They called the
> mech. in and he took one look at it and knew what it went on. So now I feel
> alot better about leaving it there. He said the cv joint will have to be
> replaced and he will check the ujoints out for me. Also he will add a
> grease fitting on the driveshaft itself, this one didn't have one. I also
> asked to have it balanced while its there. All for about $160 including
> labor.
>
> Thanks to all ya'll who told me what to do, lol. I'm gonna go crack open a
> beer and finally get to rest for a few days until it's back, Monday.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Troy
>
> "twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:9Djmg.26543$VE1.15862@newssvr14.news.prodigy. com...
> > Now put the front shaft back on and pull off the rear shaft and drive it
> > in 4wd.
> >
> > tw
> > __________________________________________________ ___________________
> > 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> >
> > "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
> >
> > Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
> >
> > Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> > A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> > capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> > __________________________________________________ ___________________
> >
> > Troy wrote:
> >> Heh I figured you wouldn't let me get off that easy. Luckily I guessed
> >> you wouldn't so I did that. And I give up... the vibes are still there.
> >> I'll let you know what the shop says when they get their hands on it.
> >>
> >> Troy