4 inch suspension nitpicking
 

The lift on my tj right now came with 1 inch transfer case drop spacers, and
only replaced the lower control arms for the front and back. I had the SYE
kit added and a pair of adjustable upper rear control arms added so I could
get rid of the spacers and adjust my pinion angle. It has a cv driveshaft
also added. I've had vibrations at high speeds ever since an accident a
couple years ago and have been adjusting the pinion angle ever so often to
figure out a good spot.

Does anyone who lurks around here in the group actually have a 4 inch lift
and mess around with it? I'd like to hear what kind of setup you have and
how its riding and such. I'm considering getting rid of this lift kit if I
can't get it running smoothly at high speed.

Troy

Re: 4 inch suspension nitpicking
 

You might also try an adjustable rear trackbar to bring your rear axle
back into place, laterally. However, you didn't mention if the accident
was before or after the lift. Vibes due to accidents open up a whole can
of worms...could be a bent rim, bruised tire, tweaked anything...etc.
Are you SURE it is a driveline vibe??

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Troy wrote:
> The lift on my tj right now came with 1 inch transfer case drop spacers, and
> only replaced the lower control arms for the front and back. I had the SYE
> kit added and a pair of adjustable upper rear control arms added so I could
> get rid of the spacers and adjust my pinion angle. It has a cv driveshaft
> also added. I've had vibrations at high speeds ever since an accident a
> couple years ago and have been adjusting the pinion angle ever so often to
> figure out a good spot.
>
> Does anyone who lurks around here in the group actually have a 4 inch lift
> and mess around with it? I'd like to hear what kind of setup you have and
> how its riding and such. I'm considering getting rid of this lift kit if I
> can't get it running smoothly at high speed.
>
> Troy
>
>

Re: 4 inch suspension nitpicking
 

You might also try an adjustable rear trackbar to bring your rear axle
back into place, laterally. However, you didn't mention if the accident
was before or after the lift. Vibes due to accidents open up a whole can
of worms...could be a bent rim, bruised tire, tweaked anything...etc.
Are you SURE it is a driveline vibe??

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Troy wrote:
> The lift on my tj right now came with 1 inch transfer case drop spacers, and
> only replaced the lower control arms for the front and back. I had the SYE
> kit added and a pair of adjustable upper rear control arms added so I could
> get rid of the spacers and adjust my pinion angle. It has a cv driveshaft
> also added. I've had vibrations at high speeds ever since an accident a
> couple years ago and have been adjusting the pinion angle ever so often to
> figure out a good spot.
>
> Does anyone who lurks around here in the group actually have a 4 inch lift
> and mess around with it? I'd like to hear what kind of setup you have and
> how its riding and such. I'm considering getting rid of this lift kit if I
> can't get it running smoothly at high speed.
>
> Troy
>
>

Re: 4 inch suspension nitpicking
 

You might also try an adjustable rear trackbar to bring your rear axle
back into place, laterally. However, you didn't mention if the accident
was before or after the lift. Vibes due to accidents open up a whole can
of worms...could be a bent rim, bruised tire, tweaked anything...etc.
Are you SURE it is a driveline vibe??

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Troy wrote:
> The lift on my tj right now came with 1 inch transfer case drop spacers, and
> only replaced the lower control arms for the front and back. I had the SYE
> kit added and a pair of adjustable upper rear control arms added so I could
> get rid of the spacers and adjust my pinion angle. It has a cv driveshaft
> also added. I've had vibrations at high speeds ever since an accident a
> couple years ago and have been adjusting the pinion angle ever so often to
> figure out a good spot.
>
> Does anyone who lurks around here in the group actually have a 4 inch lift
> and mess around with it? I'd like to hear what kind of setup you have and
> how its riding and such. I'm considering getting rid of this lift kit if I
> can't get it running smoothly at high speed.
>
> Troy
>
>

Re: 4 inch suspension nitpicking
 

Ah I didn't think about the rear trackbar... I had drilled a hole in the
bracket for the front bar to adjust it and didn't do the back. That would
straighten out my driveshaft, I noticed it was a little to the left... The
vibes started after the accident. I spent an hour under there the other day
looking and grabbing parts and shaking and thinking.... and I think the lift
I bought is just crap.

The lower arms that came with the kit aren't adjustable... I think it was
designed so it HAD to have drop case spacers or need adjustable control arms
for the lower, which it didn't. So I guess since I know now what I didn't
then, can anyone recommend a long arm suspension for my TJ? 4 inches please

Troy

"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
news:Agrkg.24683$VE1.11515@newssvr14.news.prodigy. com...
> You might also try an adjustable rear trackbar to bring your rear axle
> back into place, laterally. However, you didn't mention if the accident
> was before or after the lift. Vibes due to accidents open up a whole can
> of worms...could be a bent rim, bruised tire, tweaked anything...etc. Are
> you SURE it is a driveline vibe??
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
> Troy wrote:
>> The lift on my tj right now came with 1 inch transfer case drop spacers,
>> and only replaced the lower control arms for the front and back. I had
>> the SYE kit added and a pair of adjustable upper rear control arms added
>> so I could get rid of the spacers and adjust my pinion angle. It has a
>> cv driveshaft also added. I've had vibrations at high speeds ever since
>> an accident a couple years ago and have been adjusting the pinion angle
>> ever so often to figure out a good spot.
>>
>> Does anyone who lurks around here in the group actually have a 4 inch
>> lift and mess around with it? I'd like to hear what kind of setup you
>> have and how its riding and such. I'm considering getting rid of this
>> lift kit if I can't get it running smoothly at high speed.
>>
>> Troy

Re: 4 inch suspension nitpicking
 

Ah I didn't think about the rear trackbar... I had drilled a hole in the
bracket for the front bar to adjust it and didn't do the back. That would
straighten out my driveshaft, I noticed it was a little to the left... The
vibes started after the accident. I spent an hour under there the other day
looking and grabbing parts and shaking and thinking.... and I think the lift
I bought is just crap.

The lower arms that came with the kit aren't adjustable... I think it was
designed so it HAD to have drop case spacers or need adjustable control arms
for the lower, which it didn't. So I guess since I know now what I didn't
then, can anyone recommend a long arm suspension for my TJ? 4 inches please

Troy

"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
news:Agrkg.24683$VE1.11515@newssvr14.news.prodigy. com...
> You might also try an adjustable rear trackbar to bring your rear axle
> back into place, laterally. However, you didn't mention if the accident
> was before or after the lift. Vibes due to accidents open up a whole can
> of worms...could be a bent rim, bruised tire, tweaked anything...etc. Are
> you SURE it is a driveline vibe??
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
> Troy wrote:
>> The lift on my tj right now came with 1 inch transfer case drop spacers,
>> and only replaced the lower control arms for the front and back. I had
>> the SYE kit added and a pair of adjustable upper rear control arms added
>> so I could get rid of the spacers and adjust my pinion angle. It has a
>> cv driveshaft also added. I've had vibrations at high speeds ever since
>> an accident a couple years ago and have been adjusting the pinion angle
>> ever so often to figure out a good spot.
>>
>> Does anyone who lurks around here in the group actually have a 4 inch
>> lift and mess around with it? I'd like to hear what kind of setup you
>> have and how its riding and such. I'm considering getting rid of this
>> lift kit if I can't get it running smoothly at high speed.
>>
>> Troy

Re: 4 inch suspension nitpicking
 

Ah I didn't think about the rear trackbar... I had drilled a hole in the
bracket for the front bar to adjust it and didn't do the back. That would
straighten out my driveshaft, I noticed it was a little to the left... The
vibes started after the accident. I spent an hour under there the other day
looking and grabbing parts and shaking and thinking.... and I think the lift
I bought is just crap.

The lower arms that came with the kit aren't adjustable... I think it was
designed so it HAD to have drop case spacers or need adjustable control arms
for the lower, which it didn't. So I guess since I know now what I didn't
then, can anyone recommend a long arm suspension for my TJ? 4 inches please

Troy

"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
news:Agrkg.24683$VE1.11515@newssvr14.news.prodigy. com...
> You might also try an adjustable rear trackbar to bring your rear axle
> back into place, laterally. However, you didn't mention if the accident
> was before or after the lift. Vibes due to accidents open up a whole can
> of worms...could be a bent rim, bruised tire, tweaked anything...etc. Are
> you SURE it is a driveline vibe??
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
> Troy wrote:
>> The lift on my tj right now came with 1 inch transfer case drop spacers,
>> and only replaced the lower control arms for the front and back. I had
>> the SYE kit added and a pair of adjustable upper rear control arms added
>> so I could get rid of the spacers and adjust my pinion angle. It has a
>> cv driveshaft also added. I've had vibrations at high speeds ever since
>> an accident a couple years ago and have been adjusting the pinion angle
>> ever so often to figure out a good spot.
>>
>> Does anyone who lurks around here in the group actually have a 4 inch
>> lift and mess around with it? I'd like to hear what kind of setup you
>> have and how its riding and such. I'm considering getting rid of this
>> lift kit if I can't get it running smoothly at high speed.
>>
>> Troy

Re: 4 inch suspension nitpicking
 

Describe your vibes. When do they occur (rpms, speed, acceleration,
deceleration? If this started just following an accident, I think it is
unlikely that these are driveline vibes.

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________


Troy wrote:
> Ah I didn't think about the rear trackbar... I had drilled a hole in the
> bracket for the front bar to adjust it and didn't do the back. That would
> straighten out my driveshaft, I noticed it was a little to the left... The
> vibes started after the accident. I spent an hour under there the other day
> looking and grabbing parts and shaking and thinking.... and I think the lift
> I bought is just crap.
>
> The lower arms that came with the kit aren't adjustable... I think it was
> designed so it HAD to have drop case spacers or need adjustable control arms
> for the lower, which it didn't. So I guess since I know now what I didn't
> then, can anyone recommend a long arm suspension for my TJ? 4 inches please
>
> Troy
>
> "twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:Agrkg.24683$VE1.11515@newssvr14.news.prodigy. com...
>
>>You might also try an adjustable rear trackbar to bring your rear axle
>>back into place, laterally. However, you didn't mention if the accident
>>was before or after the lift. Vibes due to accidents open up a whole can
>>of worms...could be a bent rim, bruised tire, tweaked anything...etc. Are
>>you SURE it is a driveline vibe??
>>
>>tw
>>________________________________________________ _____________________
>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>________________________________________________ _____________________
>>
>>Troy wrote:
>>
>>>The lift on my tj right now came with 1 inch transfer case drop spacers,
>>>and only replaced the lower control arms for the front and back. I had
>>>the SYE kit added and a pair of adjustable upper rear control arms added
>>>so I could get rid of the spacers and adjust my pinion angle. It has a
>>>cv driveshaft also added. I've had vibrations at high speeds ever since
>>>an accident a couple years ago and have been adjusting the pinion angle
>>>ever so often to figure out a good spot.
>>>
>>>Does anyone who lurks around here in the group actually have a 4 inch
>>>lift and mess around with it? I'd like to hear what kind of setup you
>>>have and how its riding and such. I'm considering getting rid of this
>>>lift kit if I can't get it running smoothly at high speed.
>>>
>>>Troy
>
>
>

Re: 4 inch suspension nitpicking
 

Describe your vibes. When do they occur (rpms, speed, acceleration,
deceleration? If this started just following an accident, I think it is
unlikely that these are driveline vibes.

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________


Troy wrote:
> Ah I didn't think about the rear trackbar... I had drilled a hole in the
> bracket for the front bar to adjust it and didn't do the back. That would
> straighten out my driveshaft, I noticed it was a little to the left... The
> vibes started after the accident. I spent an hour under there the other day
> looking and grabbing parts and shaking and thinking.... and I think the lift
> I bought is just crap.
>
> The lower arms that came with the kit aren't adjustable... I think it was
> designed so it HAD to have drop case spacers or need adjustable control arms
> for the lower, which it didn't. So I guess since I know now what I didn't
> then, can anyone recommend a long arm suspension for my TJ? 4 inches please
>
> Troy
>
> "twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:Agrkg.24683$VE1.11515@newssvr14.news.prodigy. com...
>
>>You might also try an adjustable rear trackbar to bring your rear axle
>>back into place, laterally. However, you didn't mention if the accident
>>was before or after the lift. Vibes due to accidents open up a whole can
>>of worms...could be a bent rim, bruised tire, tweaked anything...etc. Are
>>you SURE it is a driveline vibe??
>>
>>tw
>>________________________________________________ _____________________
>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>________________________________________________ _____________________
>>
>>Troy wrote:
>>
>>>The lift on my tj right now came with 1 inch transfer case drop spacers,
>>>and only replaced the lower control arms for the front and back. I had
>>>the SYE kit added and a pair of adjustable upper rear control arms added
>>>so I could get rid of the spacers and adjust my pinion angle. It has a
>>>cv driveshaft also added. I've had vibrations at high speeds ever since
>>>an accident a couple years ago and have been adjusting the pinion angle
>>>ever so often to figure out a good spot.
>>>
>>>Does anyone who lurks around here in the group actually have a 4 inch
>>>lift and mess around with it? I'd like to hear what kind of setup you
>>>have and how its riding and such. I'm considering getting rid of this
>>>lift kit if I can't get it running smoothly at high speed.
>>>
>>>Troy
>
>
>

Re: 4 inch suspension nitpicking
 

Describe your vibes. When do they occur (rpms, speed, acceleration,
deceleration? If this started just following an accident, I think it is
unlikely that these are driveline vibes.

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________


Troy wrote:
> Ah I didn't think about the rear trackbar... I had drilled a hole in the
> bracket for the front bar to adjust it and didn't do the back. That would
> straighten out my driveshaft, I noticed it was a little to the left... The
> vibes started after the accident. I spent an hour under there the other day
> looking and grabbing parts and shaking and thinking.... and I think the lift
> I bought is just crap.
>
> The lower arms that came with the kit aren't adjustable... I think it was
> designed so it HAD to have drop case spacers or need adjustable control arms
> for the lower, which it didn't. So I guess since I know now what I didn't
> then, can anyone recommend a long arm suspension for my TJ? 4 inches please
>
> Troy
>
> "twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:Agrkg.24683$VE1.11515@newssvr14.news.prodigy. com...
>
>>You might also try an adjustable rear trackbar to bring your rear axle
>>back into place, laterally. However, you didn't mention if the accident
>>was before or after the lift. Vibes due to accidents open up a whole can
>>of worms...could be a bent rim, bruised tire, tweaked anything...etc. Are
>>you SURE it is a driveline vibe??
>>
>>tw
>>________________________________________________ _____________________
>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>________________________________________________ _____________________
>>
>>Troy wrote:
>>
>>>The lift on my tj right now came with 1 inch transfer case drop spacers,
>>>and only replaced the lower control arms for the front and back. I had
>>>the SYE kit added and a pair of adjustable upper rear control arms added
>>>so I could get rid of the spacers and adjust my pinion angle. It has a
>>>cv driveshaft also added. I've had vibrations at high speeds ever since
>>>an accident a couple years ago and have been adjusting the pinion angle
>>>ever so often to figure out a good spot.
>>>
>>>Does anyone who lurks around here in the group actually have a 4 inch
>>>lift and mess around with it? I'd like to hear what kind of setup you
>>>have and how its riding and such. I'm considering getting rid of this
>>>lift kit if I can't get it running smoothly at high speed.
>>>
>>>Troy
>
>
>