Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
Hi Terry,
Supply and demand, if he was going the other way he'd get a used carrier for free. Tom's running a Dana 35c with the 4.56 smaller opinion, far less than 32" tires or he'll be sending me pictures to: http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Terry Jeffrey wrote: > > Sounds good, Tom. But that price sounds a little high for the carrier. > What size tires are you planning to run with those 4.56s? > > Terry. |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
Hi Terry,
Supply and demand, if he was going the other way he'd get a used carrier for free. Tom's running a Dana 35c with the 4.56 smaller opinion, far less than 32" tires or he'll be sending me pictures to: http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Terry Jeffrey wrote: > > Sounds good, Tom. But that price sounds a little high for the carrier. > What size tires are you planning to run with those 4.56s? > > Terry. |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
Hi Terry,
Supply and demand, if he was going the other way he'd get a used carrier for free. Tom's running a Dana 35c with the 4.56 smaller opinion, far less than 32" tires or he'll be sending me pictures to: http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Terry Jeffrey wrote: > > Sounds good, Tom. But that price sounds a little high for the carrier. > What size tires are you planning to run with those 4.56s? > > Terry. |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
$200 for the new carrier???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha , those guys are just yankin' your chain... or if they're serious, they're giving you a royal reaming. I never paid more than $60 for a brand new carrier in my life and that includes for the Dana 30 that I bought my last carrier for. Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message news:dd809f71.0312291846.2d607f8a@posting.google.c om... > Hello, > I just left the local 4 Wheel Drive Wholesalers shop and they told me > I definitely need a new carrier, and my current lock-right locker will > work just fine with the new carrier. I guess the bolt pattern or > something is different, the new carrier is around $200.00 plus cost > of the new gear set and master install kit. > Thanks for for the feedback and advice! > Tom > > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<orLHb.23377$Pg1.22505@newsread1.news.pas.ear thlink.net>... > > Hey guys, I'm not suggesting anybody is wrong. All I'm saying is I don't > > recall having to replace the carrier in my D30 whenever I made this swap > > back in spring of '96. The 4.56 ring bolted onto the stock carrier, and I > > used it until about 4 months ago. If I hadn't taken the old D30 to salvage > > last month, I'd go open it up and take a look. Both the CJ and the TJ use a > > non-reverse cut D30, whereas the YJ uses a reverse-cut. Maybe this is the > > difference -- I don't know. One thing is for sure: either it fit the stock > > carrier on my 92YJ or all those brain cells I destroyed at a younger age is > > starting to catch up with me!! :) > > > > Cheers, > > Terry. > > > > > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > > news:i9IHb.31792$gN.19187@fed1read05... > > > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier in > > any > > > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10, 4.56, > > > etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's > > non-reverse > > > cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same > > > carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year. > > > > > > -- > > > -- > > > Jerry Bransford > > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny... > > > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same. > > > > Did you see Bill's list? > > > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt > > > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > > > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to > > replace > > the > > > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a > > > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? > > > > > > > > > > Terry. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be > > replaced. > > My > > > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front > > and > > > > > > rear. > > > > > > > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to > > replace > > > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P > > because > > I > > > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the > > side > > and > > > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terry 92YJ > > > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. > > I > > > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put > > 4.56 > > > > > > > > > gears in both. > > > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower > > gears > > in > > > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 > > gears > > > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like > > I'm > > > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the > > 4.56 > > to > > > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
$200 for the new carrier???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha , those guys are just yankin' your chain... or if they're serious, they're giving you a royal reaming. I never paid more than $60 for a brand new carrier in my life and that includes for the Dana 30 that I bought my last carrier for. Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message news:dd809f71.0312291846.2d607f8a@posting.google.c om... > Hello, > I just left the local 4 Wheel Drive Wholesalers shop and they told me > I definitely need a new carrier, and my current lock-right locker will > work just fine with the new carrier. I guess the bolt pattern or > something is different, the new carrier is around $200.00 plus cost > of the new gear set and master install kit. > Thanks for for the feedback and advice! > Tom > > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<orLHb.23377$Pg1.22505@newsread1.news.pas.ear thlink.net>... > > Hey guys, I'm not suggesting anybody is wrong. All I'm saying is I don't > > recall having to replace the carrier in my D30 whenever I made this swap > > back in spring of '96. The 4.56 ring bolted onto the stock carrier, and I > > used it until about 4 months ago. If I hadn't taken the old D30 to salvage > > last month, I'd go open it up and take a look. Both the CJ and the TJ use a > > non-reverse cut D30, whereas the YJ uses a reverse-cut. Maybe this is the > > difference -- I don't know. One thing is for sure: either it fit the stock > > carrier on my 92YJ or all those brain cells I destroyed at a younger age is > > starting to catch up with me!! :) > > > > Cheers, > > Terry. > > > > > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > > news:i9IHb.31792$gN.19187@fed1read05... > > > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier in > > any > > > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10, 4.56, > > > etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's > > non-reverse > > > cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same > > > carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year. > > > > > > -- > > > -- > > > Jerry Bransford > > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny... > > > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same. > > > > Did you see Bill's list? > > > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt > > > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > > > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to > > replace > > the > > > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a > > > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? > > > > > > > > > > Terry. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be > > replaced. > > My > > > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front > > and > > > > > > rear. > > > > > > > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to > > replace > > > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P > > because > > I > > > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the > > side > > and > > > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terry 92YJ > > > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. > > I > > > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put > > 4.56 > > > > > > > > > gears in both. > > > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower > > gears > > in > > > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 > > gears > > > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like > > I'm > > > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the > > 4.56 > > to > > > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
$200 for the new carrier???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha , those guys are just yankin' your chain... or if they're serious, they're giving you a royal reaming. I never paid more than $60 for a brand new carrier in my life and that includes for the Dana 30 that I bought my last carrier for. Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message news:dd809f71.0312291846.2d607f8a@posting.google.c om... > Hello, > I just left the local 4 Wheel Drive Wholesalers shop and they told me > I definitely need a new carrier, and my current lock-right locker will > work just fine with the new carrier. I guess the bolt pattern or > something is different, the new carrier is around $200.00 plus cost > of the new gear set and master install kit. > Thanks for for the feedback and advice! > Tom > > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<orLHb.23377$Pg1.22505@newsread1.news.pas.ear thlink.net>... > > Hey guys, I'm not suggesting anybody is wrong. All I'm saying is I don't > > recall having to replace the carrier in my D30 whenever I made this swap > > back in spring of '96. The 4.56 ring bolted onto the stock carrier, and I > > used it until about 4 months ago. If I hadn't taken the old D30 to salvage > > last month, I'd go open it up and take a look. Both the CJ and the TJ use a > > non-reverse cut D30, whereas the YJ uses a reverse-cut. Maybe this is the > > difference -- I don't know. One thing is for sure: either it fit the stock > > carrier on my 92YJ or all those brain cells I destroyed at a younger age is > > starting to catch up with me!! :) > > > > Cheers, > > Terry. > > > > > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message > > news:i9IHb.31792$gN.19187@fed1read05... > > > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier in > > any > > > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10, 4.56, > > > etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's > > non-reverse > > > cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same > > > carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year. > > > > > > -- > > > -- > > > Jerry Bransford > > > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny... > > > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same. > > > > Did you see Bill's list? > > > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt > > > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > > > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to > > replace > > the > > > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a > > > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? > > > > > > > > > > Terry. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be > > replaced. > > My > > > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front > > and > > > > > > rear. > > > > > > > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to > > replace > > > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P > > because > > I > > > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the > > side > > and > > > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Terry 92YJ > > > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. > > I > > > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put > > 4.56 > > > > > > > > > gears in both. > > > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower > > gears > > in > > > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 > > gears > > > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like > > I'm > > > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the > > 4.56 > > to > > > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
"Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Au0Ib.10847$lo3.8157@newsread2.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > > All those drugs you did as a kid are starting to catch up with you. You > had > > to replace the carrier or the 4.56 ring gear would not have fit. > > > > That seems to be the consensus! :). If so, I should still have the old > carrier in my pile of Jeep parts. When I get over this head cold and the > outside temp gets above 20 degrees I might go search for it. > > By the way - no drugs for me, my friend. Drinking heavily used to be the > routine though, especially during my college and military years. The good > old days! > Ah yes, the Good Old Days. |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
"Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Au0Ib.10847$lo3.8157@newsread2.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > > All those drugs you did as a kid are starting to catch up with you. You > had > > to replace the carrier or the 4.56 ring gear would not have fit. > > > > That seems to be the consensus! :). If so, I should still have the old > carrier in my pile of Jeep parts. When I get over this head cold and the > outside temp gets above 20 degrees I might go search for it. > > By the way - no drugs for me, my friend. Drinking heavily used to be the > routine though, especially during my college and military years. The good > old days! > Ah yes, the Good Old Days. |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
"Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Au0Ib.10847$lo3.8157@newsread2.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > > All those drugs you did as a kid are starting to catch up with you. You > had > > to replace the carrier or the 4.56 ring gear would not have fit. > > > > That seems to be the consensus! :). If so, I should still have the old > carrier in my pile of Jeep parts. When I get over this head cold and the > outside temp gets above 20 degrees I might go search for it. > > By the way - no drugs for me, my friend. Drinking heavily used to be the > routine though, especially during my college and military years. The good > old days! > Ah yes, the Good Old Days. |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
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