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4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I
currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 gears in both. The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower gears in the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 gears will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the 4.56 to fit.I need to find out the real answer. Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? Any help or advice would be great. Tom |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
Yes. I upgraded the stock 3.07 gearing to 4.56 in the D30 front and ran
with that configuration for several years before replacing the entire front-end on my 92YJ. 4.56s will fit the D30. Terry. "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 > gears in both. > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower gears in > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 gears > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the 4.56 to > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > Any help or advice would be great. > Tom |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
Yes. I upgraded the stock 3.07 gearing to 4.56 in the D30 front and ran
with that configuration for several years before replacing the entire front-end on my 92YJ. 4.56s will fit the D30. Terry. "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 > gears in both. > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower gears in > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 gears > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the 4.56 to > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > Any help or advice would be great. > Tom |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
Yes. I upgraded the stock 3.07 gearing to 4.56 in the D30 front and ran
with that configuration for several years before replacing the entire front-end on my 92YJ. 4.56s will fit the D30. Terry. "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 > gears in both. > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower gears in > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 gears > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the 4.56 to > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > Any help or advice would be great. > Tom |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done that.
-- JimG 80' CJ-7 258 CID 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 > gears in both. > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower gears in > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 gears > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the 4.56 to > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > Any help or advice would be great. > Tom |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done that.
-- JimG 80' CJ-7 258 CID 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 > gears in both. > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower gears in > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 gears > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the 4.56 to > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > Any help or advice would be great. > Tom |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done that.
-- JimG 80' CJ-7 258 CID 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 > gears in both. > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower gears in > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 gears > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the 4.56 to > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > Any help or advice would be great. > Tom |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
Hi Tom,
The Dana 30 will need a carrier change: http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt Now is the time to invest rear axle upgrade, because the 35's pinion will be too small for even stock tires: http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/Axle.html Or take a camera with you so you may add to my site at: http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- "Tom P." wrote: > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 > gears in both. > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower gears in > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 gears > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the 4.56 to > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > Any help or advice would be great. > Tom |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
Hi Tom,
The Dana 30 will need a carrier change: http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt Now is the time to invest rear axle upgrade, because the 35's pinion will be too small for even stock tires: http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/Axle.html Or take a camera with you so you may add to my site at: http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- "Tom P." wrote: > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 > gears in both. > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower gears in > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 gears > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the 4.56 to > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > Any help or advice would be great. > Tom |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
Hi Tom,
The Dana 30 will need a carrier change: http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt Now is the time to invest rear axle upgrade, because the 35's pinion will be too small for even stock tires: http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/Axle.html Or take a camera with you so you may add to my site at: http://www.----------.com/dana35c/ God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- "Tom P." wrote: > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 > gears in both. > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower gears in > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 gears > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the 4.56 to > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > Any help or advice would be great. > Tom |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to replace
the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P because I installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the side and spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? Terry 92YJ (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done that. > > -- > JimG > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 > > gears in both. > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower gears in > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 gears > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the 4.56 to > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > Any help or advice would be great. > > Tom > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to replace
the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P because I installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the side and spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? Terry 92YJ (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done that. > > -- > JimG > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 > > gears in both. > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower gears in > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 gears > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the 4.56 to > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > Any help or advice would be great. > > Tom > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to replace
the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P because I installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the side and spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? Terry 92YJ (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done that. > > -- > JimG > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 > > gears in both. > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower gears in > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 gears > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the 4.56 to > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > Any help or advice would be great. > > Tom > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. My
original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front and rear. JimG "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to replace > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P because I > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the side and > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > Terry 92YJ > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done that. > > > > -- > > JimG > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 > > > gears in both. > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower gears in > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 gears > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the 4.56 to > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > Tom > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. My
original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front and rear. JimG "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to replace > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P because I > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the side and > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > Terry 92YJ > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done that. > > > > -- > > JimG > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 > > > gears in both. > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower gears in > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 gears > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the 4.56 to > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > Tom > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. My
original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front and rear. JimG "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to replace > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P because I > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the side and > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > Terry 92YJ > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done that. > > > > -- > > JimG > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 > > > gears in both. > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower gears in > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 gears > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the 4.56 to > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > Tom > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to replace the
D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? Terry. "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. My > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front and > rear. > > JimG > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to replace > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P because I > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the side and > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > Terry 92YJ > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done that. > > > > > > -- > > > JimG > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 > > > > gears in both. > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower gears in > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 gears > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the 4.56 to > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to replace the
D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? Terry. "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. My > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front and > rear. > > JimG > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to replace > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P because I > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the side and > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > Terry 92YJ > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done that. > > > > > > -- > > > JimG > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 > > > > gears in both. > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower gears in > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 gears > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the 4.56 to > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to replace the
D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? Terry. "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. My > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front and > rear. > > JimG > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to replace > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P because I > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the side and > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > Terry 92YJ > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done that. > > > > > > -- > > > JimG > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 > > > > gears in both. > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower gears in > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 gears > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the 4.56 to > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same.
Did you see Bill's list? http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt JimG "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to replace the > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? > > Terry. > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. My > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front and > > rear. > > > > JimG > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to > replace > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P because > I > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the side > and > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > > > Terry 92YJ > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done that. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > JimG > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 > > > > > gears in both. > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower gears > in > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 gears > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the 4.56 > to > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same.
Did you see Bill's list? http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt JimG "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to replace the > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? > > Terry. > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. My > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front and > > rear. > > > > JimG > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to > replace > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P because > I > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the side > and > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > > > Terry 92YJ > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done that. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > JimG > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 > > > > > gears in both. > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower gears > in > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 gears > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the 4.56 > to > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same.
Did you see Bill's list? http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt JimG "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to replace the > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? > > Terry. > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. My > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front and > > rear. > > > > JimG > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to > replace > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P because > I > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the side > and > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > > > Terry 92YJ > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done that. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > JimG > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put 4.56 > > > > > gears in both. > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower gears > in > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 gears > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the 4.56 > to > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier in any
Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10, 4.56, etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's non-reverse cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year. -- -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny... > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same. > Did you see Bill's list? > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt > > JimG > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to replace > the > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? > > > > Terry. > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. > My > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front and > > > rear. > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to > > replace > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P > because > > I > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the side > > and > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > > > > > Terry 92YJ > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done > that. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > JimG > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put > 4.56 > > > > > > gears in both. > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower > gears > > in > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 > gears > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the > 4.56 > > to > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier in any
Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10, 4.56, etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's non-reverse cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year. -- -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny... > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same. > Did you see Bill's list? > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt > > JimG > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to replace > the > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? > > > > Terry. > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. > My > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front and > > > rear. > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to > > replace > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P > because > > I > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the side > > and > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > > > > > Terry 92YJ > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done > that. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > JimG > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put > 4.56 > > > > > > gears in both. > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower > gears > > in > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 > gears > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the > 4.56 > > to > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier in any
Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10, 4.56, etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's non-reverse cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year. -- -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny... > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same. > Did you see Bill's list? > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt > > JimG > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to replace > the > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? > > > > Terry. > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. > My > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front and > > > rear. > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to > > replace > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P > because > > I > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the side > > and > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > > > > > Terry 92YJ > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done > that. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > JimG > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put > 4.56 > > > > > > gears in both. > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower > gears > > in > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 > gears > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the > 4.56 > > to > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
I agree with you, Jerry.
JimG "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message news:i9IHb.31792$gN.19187@fed1read05... > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier in any > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10, 4.56, > etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's non-reverse > cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same > carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year. > > -- > -- > Jerry Bransford > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny... > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same. > > Did you see Bill's list? > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt > > > > JimG > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to replace > > the > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? > > > > > > Terry. > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. > > My > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front > and > > > > rear. > > > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to > > > replace > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P > > because > > > I > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the > side > > > and > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > > > > > > > Terry 92YJ > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put > > 4.56 > > > > > > > gears in both. > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower > > gears > > > in > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 > > gears > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like > I'm > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the > > 4.56 > > > to > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
I agree with you, Jerry.
JimG "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message news:i9IHb.31792$gN.19187@fed1read05... > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier in any > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10, 4.56, > etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's non-reverse > cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same > carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year. > > -- > -- > Jerry Bransford > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny... > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same. > > Did you see Bill's list? > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt > > > > JimG > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to replace > > the > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? > > > > > > Terry. > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. > > My > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front > and > > > > rear. > > > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to > > > replace > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P > > because > > > I > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the > side > > > and > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > > > > > > > Terry 92YJ > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put > > 4.56 > > > > > > > gears in both. > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower > > gears > > > in > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 > > gears > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like > I'm > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the > > 4.56 > > > to > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
I agree with you, Jerry.
JimG "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message news:i9IHb.31792$gN.19187@fed1read05... > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier in any > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10, 4.56, > etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's non-reverse > cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same > carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year. > > -- > -- > Jerry Bransford > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny... > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same. > > Did you see Bill's list? > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt > > > > JimG > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to replace > > the > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? > > > > > > Terry. > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. > > My > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front > and > > > > rear. > > > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to > > > replace > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P > > because > > > I > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the > side > > > and > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > > > > > > > Terry 92YJ > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put > > 4.56 > > > > > > > gears in both. > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower > > gears > > > in > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 > > gears > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like > I'm > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the > > 4.56 > > > to > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
Jim,
Yes, I saw Bill's list, and believe it to be absolutely correct -- that you will have to replace the carrier in most cases. But I'm also sure that replacing the carrier is not necessary if one is to also install a LockRight at the same time, since installation of the LockRight replaces the spider and side gears that live inside the carrier. These new LockRight spider and side gears are specifically for a given gearing. Taking out the stock carrier, I removed the 3.07 ring gear, removed the roll pin & cross shaft, dropped out the old spider/side gears, bolted the new 4.56 ring gear down on the stock carrier, installed the LockRight into the carrier (with the new spider/side gears), reinstalled the carrier in the D30, and all was well. Thanks, Terry. "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny... > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same. > Did you see Bill's list? > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt > > JimG > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to replace > the > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? > > > > Terry. > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. > My > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front and > > > rear. > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to > > replace > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P > because > > I > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the side > > and > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > > > > > Terry 92YJ > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done > that. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > JimG > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put > 4.56 > > > > > > gears in both. > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower > gears > > in > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 > gears > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the > 4.56 > > to > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
Jim,
Yes, I saw Bill's list, and believe it to be absolutely correct -- that you will have to replace the carrier in most cases. But I'm also sure that replacing the carrier is not necessary if one is to also install a LockRight at the same time, since installation of the LockRight replaces the spider and side gears that live inside the carrier. These new LockRight spider and side gears are specifically for a given gearing. Taking out the stock carrier, I removed the 3.07 ring gear, removed the roll pin & cross shaft, dropped out the old spider/side gears, bolted the new 4.56 ring gear down on the stock carrier, installed the LockRight into the carrier (with the new spider/side gears), reinstalled the carrier in the D30, and all was well. Thanks, Terry. "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny... > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same. > Did you see Bill's list? > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt > > JimG > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to replace > the > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? > > > > Terry. > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. > My > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front and > > > rear. > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to > > replace > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P > because > > I > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the side > > and > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > > > > > Terry 92YJ > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done > that. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > JimG > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put > 4.56 > > > > > > gears in both. > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower > gears > > in > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 > gears > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the > 4.56 > > to > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
Jim,
Yes, I saw Bill's list, and believe it to be absolutely correct -- that you will have to replace the carrier in most cases. But I'm also sure that replacing the carrier is not necessary if one is to also install a LockRight at the same time, since installation of the LockRight replaces the spider and side gears that live inside the carrier. These new LockRight spider and side gears are specifically for a given gearing. Taking out the stock carrier, I removed the 3.07 ring gear, removed the roll pin & cross shaft, dropped out the old spider/side gears, bolted the new 4.56 ring gear down on the stock carrier, installed the LockRight into the carrier (with the new spider/side gears), reinstalled the carrier in the D30, and all was well. Thanks, Terry. "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny... > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same. > Did you see Bill's list? > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt > > JimG > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to replace > the > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? > > > > Terry. > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. > My > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front and > > > rear. > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to > > replace > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P > because > > I > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the side > > and > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > > > > > Terry 92YJ > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done > that. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > JimG > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put > 4.56 > > > > > > gears in both. > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower > gears > > in > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 > gears > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like I'm > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the > 4.56 > > to > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
The Lock Right has nothing to do with the ring, pinion, and carrier
combination, it simply replaces the spider gears. The Lock Right part number is based on the axle and spline count, not the gear ratio. The 4.56 ring gear/pinion combination will not fit on the 3.07 carrier. There are other locker systems that replace the carrier, but I am not familiar with them. http://www.powertrax.com/lrinst.htm JimG "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OoIHb.22604$Pg1.16866@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > Jim, > > Yes, I saw Bill's list, and believe it to be absolutely correct -- that you > will have to replace the carrier in most cases. But I'm also sure that > replacing the carrier is not necessary if one is to also install a LockRight > at the same time, since installation of the LockRight replaces the spider > and side gears that live inside the carrier. These new LockRight spider and > side gears are specifically for a given gearing. > > Taking out the stock carrier, I removed the 3.07 ring gear, removed the roll > pin & cross shaft, dropped out the old spider/side gears, bolted the new > 4.56 ring gear down on the stock carrier, installed the LockRight into the > carrier (with the new spider/side gears), reinstalled the carrier in the > D30, and all was well. > > Thanks, > Terry. > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny... > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same. > > Did you see Bill's list? > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt > > > > JimG > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to replace > > the > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? > > > > > > Terry. > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. > > My > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front > and > > > > rear. > > > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to > > > replace > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P > > because > > > I > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the > side > > > and > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > > > > > > > Terry 92YJ > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put > > 4.56 > > > > > > > gears in both. > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower > > gears > > > in > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 > > gears > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like > I'm > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the > > 4.56 > > > to > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
The Lock Right has nothing to do with the ring, pinion, and carrier
combination, it simply replaces the spider gears. The Lock Right part number is based on the axle and spline count, not the gear ratio. The 4.56 ring gear/pinion combination will not fit on the 3.07 carrier. There are other locker systems that replace the carrier, but I am not familiar with them. http://www.powertrax.com/lrinst.htm JimG "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OoIHb.22604$Pg1.16866@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > Jim, > > Yes, I saw Bill's list, and believe it to be absolutely correct -- that you > will have to replace the carrier in most cases. But I'm also sure that > replacing the carrier is not necessary if one is to also install a LockRight > at the same time, since installation of the LockRight replaces the spider > and side gears that live inside the carrier. These new LockRight spider and > side gears are specifically for a given gearing. > > Taking out the stock carrier, I removed the 3.07 ring gear, removed the roll > pin & cross shaft, dropped out the old spider/side gears, bolted the new > 4.56 ring gear down on the stock carrier, installed the LockRight into the > carrier (with the new spider/side gears), reinstalled the carrier in the > D30, and all was well. > > Thanks, > Terry. > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny... > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same. > > Did you see Bill's list? > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt > > > > JimG > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to replace > > the > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? > > > > > > Terry. > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. > > My > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front > and > > > > rear. > > > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to > > > replace > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P > > because > > > I > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the > side > > > and > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > > > > > > > Terry 92YJ > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put > > 4.56 > > > > > > > gears in both. > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower > > gears > > > in > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 > > gears > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like > I'm > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the > > 4.56 > > > to > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
The Lock Right has nothing to do with the ring, pinion, and carrier
combination, it simply replaces the spider gears. The Lock Right part number is based on the axle and spline count, not the gear ratio. The 4.56 ring gear/pinion combination will not fit on the 3.07 carrier. There are other locker systems that replace the carrier, but I am not familiar with them. http://www.powertrax.com/lrinst.htm JimG "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:OoIHb.22604$Pg1.16866@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > Jim, > > Yes, I saw Bill's list, and believe it to be absolutely correct -- that you > will have to replace the carrier in most cases. But I'm also sure that > replacing the carrier is not necessary if one is to also install a LockRight > at the same time, since installation of the LockRight replaces the spider > and side gears that live inside the carrier. These new LockRight spider and > side gears are specifically for a given gearing. > > Taking out the stock carrier, I removed the 3.07 ring gear, removed the roll > pin & cross shaft, dropped out the old spider/side gears, bolted the new > 4.56 ring gear down on the stock carrier, installed the LockRight into the > carrier (with the new spider/side gears), reinstalled the carrier in the > D30, and all was well. > > Thanks, > Terry. > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny... > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same. > > Did you see Bill's list? > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt > > > > JimG > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to replace > > the > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? > > > > > > Terry. > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. > > My > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front > and > > > > rear. > > > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to > > > replace > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P > > because > > > I > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the > side > > > and > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > > > > > > > Terry 92YJ > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put > > 4.56 > > > > > > > gears in both. > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower > > gears > > > in > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 > > gears > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like > I'm > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the > > 4.56 > > > to > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
My 4.56 ring gear did fit on the stock carrier, and I successfully used the
combination I speak of for about 6 years, Jim. I know I'm not hallucinating (today) :)) Terry. "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message news:aKIHb.32196$A15.18821@news01.roc.ny... > The Lock Right has nothing to do with the ring, pinion, and carrier > combination, it simply replaces the spider gears. The Lock Right part > number is based on the axle and spline count, not the gear ratio. The 4.56 > ring gear/pinion combination will not fit on the 3.07 carrier. There are > other locker systems that replace the carrier, but I am not familiar with > them. > > http://www.powertrax.com/lrinst.htm > > JimG > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:OoIHb.22604$Pg1.16866@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > > Jim, > > > > Yes, I saw Bill's list, and believe it to be absolutely correct -- that > you > > will have to replace the carrier in most cases. But I'm also sure that > > replacing the carrier is not necessary if one is to also install a > LockRight > > at the same time, since installation of the LockRight replaces the spider > > and side gears that live inside the carrier. These new LockRight spider > and > > side gears are specifically for a given gearing. > > > > Taking out the stock carrier, I removed the 3.07 ring gear, removed the > roll > > pin & cross shaft, dropped out the old spider/side gears, bolted the new > > 4.56 ring gear down on the stock carrier, installed the LockRight into the > > carrier (with the new spider/side gears), reinstalled the carrier in the > > D30, and all was well. > > > > Thanks, > > Terry. > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny... > > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same. > > > Did you see Bill's list? > > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to > replace > > > the > > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a > > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? > > > > > > > > Terry. > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be > replaced. > > > My > > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front > > and > > > > > rear. > > > > > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to > > > > replace > > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P > > > because > > > > I > > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the > > side > > > > and > > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > > > > > > > > > Terry 92YJ > > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. > I > > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put > > > 4.56 > > > > > > > > gears in both. > > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower > > > gears > > > > in > > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 > > > gears > > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like > > I'm > > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the > > > 4.56 > > > > to > > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
My 4.56 ring gear did fit on the stock carrier, and I successfully used the
combination I speak of for about 6 years, Jim. I know I'm not hallucinating (today) :)) Terry. "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message news:aKIHb.32196$A15.18821@news01.roc.ny... > The Lock Right has nothing to do with the ring, pinion, and carrier > combination, it simply replaces the spider gears. The Lock Right part > number is based on the axle and spline count, not the gear ratio. The 4.56 > ring gear/pinion combination will not fit on the 3.07 carrier. There are > other locker systems that replace the carrier, but I am not familiar with > them. > > http://www.powertrax.com/lrinst.htm > > JimG > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:OoIHb.22604$Pg1.16866@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > > Jim, > > > > Yes, I saw Bill's list, and believe it to be absolutely correct -- that > you > > will have to replace the carrier in most cases. But I'm also sure that > > replacing the carrier is not necessary if one is to also install a > LockRight > > at the same time, since installation of the LockRight replaces the spider > > and side gears that live inside the carrier. These new LockRight spider > and > > side gears are specifically for a given gearing. > > > > Taking out the stock carrier, I removed the 3.07 ring gear, removed the > roll > > pin & cross shaft, dropped out the old spider/side gears, bolted the new > > 4.56 ring gear down on the stock carrier, installed the LockRight into the > > carrier (with the new spider/side gears), reinstalled the carrier in the > > D30, and all was well. > > > > Thanks, > > Terry. > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny... > > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same. > > > Did you see Bill's list? > > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to > replace > > > the > > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a > > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? > > > > > > > > Terry. > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be > replaced. > > > My > > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front > > and > > > > > rear. > > > > > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to > > > > replace > > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P > > > because > > > > I > > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the > > side > > > > and > > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > > > > > > > > > Terry 92YJ > > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. > I > > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put > > > 4.56 > > > > > > > > gears in both. > > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower > > > gears > > > > in > > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 > > > gears > > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like > > I'm > > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the > > > 4.56 > > > > to > > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
My 4.56 ring gear did fit on the stock carrier, and I successfully used the
combination I speak of for about 6 years, Jim. I know I'm not hallucinating (today) :)) Terry. "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message news:aKIHb.32196$A15.18821@news01.roc.ny... > The Lock Right has nothing to do with the ring, pinion, and carrier > combination, it simply replaces the spider gears. The Lock Right part > number is based on the axle and spline count, not the gear ratio. The 4.56 > ring gear/pinion combination will not fit on the 3.07 carrier. There are > other locker systems that replace the carrier, but I am not familiar with > them. > > http://www.powertrax.com/lrinst.htm > > JimG > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:OoIHb.22604$Pg1.16866@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > > Jim, > > > > Yes, I saw Bill's list, and believe it to be absolutely correct -- that > you > > will have to replace the carrier in most cases. But I'm also sure that > > replacing the carrier is not necessary if one is to also install a > LockRight > > at the same time, since installation of the LockRight replaces the spider > > and side gears that live inside the carrier. These new LockRight spider > and > > side gears are specifically for a given gearing. > > > > Taking out the stock carrier, I removed the 3.07 ring gear, removed the > roll > > pin & cross shaft, dropped out the old spider/side gears, bolted the new > > 4.56 ring gear down on the stock carrier, installed the LockRight into the > > carrier (with the new spider/side gears), reinstalled the carrier in the > > D30, and all was well. > > > > Thanks, > > Terry. > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny... > > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same. > > > Did you see Bill's list? > > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to > replace > > > the > > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a > > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? > > > > > > > > Terry. > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be > replaced. > > > My > > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front > > and > > > > > rear. > > > > > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to > > > > replace > > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P > > > because > > > > I > > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the > > side > > > > and > > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > > > > > > > > > Terry 92YJ > > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. > I > > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put > > > 4.56 > > > > > > > > gears in both. > > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower > > > gears > > > > in > > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 > > > gears > > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like > > I'm > > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the > > > 4.56 > > > > to > > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
Hey guys, I'm not suggesting anybody is wrong. All I'm saying is I don't
recall having to replace the carrier in my D30 whenever I made this swap back in spring of '96. The 4.56 ring bolted onto the stock carrier, and I used it until about 4 months ago. If I hadn't taken the old D30 to salvage last month, I'd go open it up and take a look. Both the CJ and the TJ use a non-reverse cut D30, whereas the YJ uses a reverse-cut. Maybe this is the difference -- I don't know. One thing is for sure: either it fit the stock carrier on my 92YJ or all those brain cells I destroyed at a younger age is starting to catch up with me!! :) Cheers, Terry. "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message news:i9IHb.31792$gN.19187@fed1read05... > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier in any > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10, 4.56, > etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's non-reverse > cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same > carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year. > > -- > -- > Jerry Bransford > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny... > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same. > > Did you see Bill's list? > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt > > > > JimG > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to replace > > the > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? > > > > > > Terry. > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. > > My > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front > and > > > > rear. > > > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to > > > replace > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P > > because > > > I > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the > side > > > and > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > > > > > > > Terry 92YJ > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put > > 4.56 > > > > > > > gears in both. > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower > > gears > > > in > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 > > gears > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like > I'm > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the > > 4.56 > > > to > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
Hey guys, I'm not suggesting anybody is wrong. All I'm saying is I don't
recall having to replace the carrier in my D30 whenever I made this swap back in spring of '96. The 4.56 ring bolted onto the stock carrier, and I used it until about 4 months ago. If I hadn't taken the old D30 to salvage last month, I'd go open it up and take a look. Both the CJ and the TJ use a non-reverse cut D30, whereas the YJ uses a reverse-cut. Maybe this is the difference -- I don't know. One thing is for sure: either it fit the stock carrier on my 92YJ or all those brain cells I destroyed at a younger age is starting to catch up with me!! :) Cheers, Terry. "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message news:i9IHb.31792$gN.19187@fed1read05... > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier in any > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10, 4.56, > etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's non-reverse > cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same > carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year. > > -- > -- > Jerry Bransford > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny... > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same. > > Did you see Bill's list? > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt > > > > JimG > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to replace > > the > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? > > > > > > Terry. > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. > > My > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front > and > > > > rear. > > > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to > > > replace > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P > > because > > > I > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the > side > > > and > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > > > > > > > Terry 92YJ > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put > > 4.56 > > > > > > > gears in both. > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower > > gears > > > in > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 > > gears > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like > I'm > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the > > 4.56 > > > to > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: 4.56 gears in a Dana 30 front
Hey guys, I'm not suggesting anybody is wrong. All I'm saying is I don't
recall having to replace the carrier in my D30 whenever I made this swap back in spring of '96. The 4.56 ring bolted onto the stock carrier, and I used it until about 4 months ago. If I hadn't taken the old D30 to salvage last month, I'd go open it up and take a look. Both the CJ and the TJ use a non-reverse cut D30, whereas the YJ uses a reverse-cut. Maybe this is the difference -- I don't know. One thing is for sure: either it fit the stock carrier on my 92YJ or all those brain cells I destroyed at a younger age is starting to catch up with me!! :) Cheers, Terry. "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message news:i9IHb.31792$gN.19187@fed1read05... > I can't imagine going from 3.07 to 4.56 without needing a new carrier in any > Dana axle. I believe any ratio 3.73 or lower (lower meaning 4.10, 4.56, > etc.) needs a new carrier, even in something that old. My TJ's non-reverse > cut D30 sure did when I went from 3.55 to 4.10... but I kept the same > carrier when converting from 4.10 to 4.88 earlier this year. > > -- > -- > Jerry Bransford > To email, remove 'me' from my email address > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > news:x3IHb.32188$HR4.13579@news01.roc.ny... > > I don't think there is any difference - all internal parts are the same. > > Did you see Bill's list? > > http://www.----------.com/tooth_count.txt > > > > JimG > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:zLHHb.22523$Pg1.19236@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net... > > > My original gear was 3.07 too, but I'm certain I did not have to replace > > the > > > D30 carrier in conjunction with using the LockRite. Maybe this is a > > > difference in the stock '80 vs '92 D30? > > > > > > Terry. > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > news:FzHHb.32183$iN4.2074@news01.roc.ny... > > > > If original gear is higher that 3.73, the carrier has to be replaced. > > My > > > > original gear was 3.07. I had to replace the carriers in both front > and > > > > rear. > > > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > > > "Terry Jeffrey" <twjeffrey@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > news:XZFHb.22399$Pg1.9205@newsread1.news.pas.earth link.net... > > > > > It's been a few years, but thinking back I'm sure I didn't have to > > > replace > > > > > the entire reverse-cut D30 carrier when I installed the 4.56 R&P > > because > > > I > > > > > installed a LockRight locker at the same time, which replaces the > side > > > and > > > > > spider gears. Didn't your LockRight install go this way too? > > > > > > > > > > Terry 92YJ > > > > > (now running dual D60s w/Detroits) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:pdFHb.32159$Wc4.17075@news01.roc.ny... > > > > > > You will have to get a new carrier for the D30, been there, done > > that. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > JimG > > > > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID > > > > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines > > > > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA > > > > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R > > > > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks > > > > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries > > > > > > > > > > > > "Tom P." <TPatzlaff@aol.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:dd809f71.0312281017.6ee22391@posting.google.c om... > > > > > > > I have an "88" wrangler with a Dana 35 rear and Dana 30 front. I > > > > > > > currently have 3.55 gears in both diffs. and would like to put > > 4.56 > > > > > > > gears in both. > > > > > > > The literature I can find says that if I have 3.55 or lower > > gears > > > in > > > > > > > the D35, I will be ok. But what I need to know is if the 4.56 > > gears > > > > > > > will fit in the D30 case? From what I can find it sounds like > I'm > > > > > > > going to need a housing with 3.73 or lower gears in it for the > > 4.56 > > > to > > > > > > > fit.I need to find out the real answer. > > > > > > > Has anyone out there put 4.56 gears in these size housings? > > > > > > > Any help or advice would be great. > > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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