Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

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Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

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> the Smegma Breath handle is that I will probably get more dates :).

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Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

I checked out the link you provided along with the part number 6314 and
found the following description:

Quad Beam headlight conversion kit - keeps low beams on when high beams are
activated. Works with most pre-2000 GM's (old body style) and 2003 full
size GM's.

The description sounds as if it is for GM products only. 1) Is this what I
need for my 2000 Wrangler and 2) from the picture, it appears that the kit
is for one light, meaning that I will need to buy 2 kits (one per light)?



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FBABE25.863E8237@cox.net...
> I thought I was the only one whom wired low and high beams
> together. I worried a little about whether my alternator would keep up
> idling over the dunes, but they never dimmed:
> http://----------.com/comphill.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> mabar wrote:
> >
> > I have read this entire thread and can't understand why you got some of
> > those nasty responses. You asked a legitimate question. It's true that
fog
> > lights are designed to be able to see better in fog. Adjusted properly,
they
> > throw a wide, low beam and are much more effective in fog than regular
> > headlights. In heavy fog, you should slow down, and use your fogs along
with
> > your parking lights, NOT headlights. Headlights can be blinding in heavy
fog
> > because so much light is reflected back into the driver's eyes.
> >
> > Your question was not about fog, it was about using the fogs with the
high
> > beams.
> >
> > It is NOT, repeat NOT illegal to have your fog lights on along with your
> > high beams. In fact in Ohio, you can have a total of 5 lights on the
front
> > of a vehicle lighted while on a roadway. They can be headlights, along
with
> > any combination of auxiliary lights, fogs included.
> >
> > When driving off-road, especially on dark forest trails or roads, I use
my
> > high beams and fogs to get as much light as possible. The fogs are
> > especially good for lighting the sides of the road to help avoid deer,
etc.
> >
> > Here are the directions for getting your fogs to work with your high
beams:
> >
> > On the '01 or '02 TJ, to get the fog lights to stay on with the high
beams,
> > follow these instructions:
> >
> > Find the #35 fog lamp relay inside the main fuse box, which is on the
> > passenger side of the engine under the hood. The relay is clearly
marked on
> > a diagram on the inside cover of the main fuse box.
> >
> > Pull the relay straight up and out of the socket. Carefully and slowly
bend
> > the #1 pin (it's marked) 180 degrees around to the side of the plastic
> > relay, so it will not make contact with its female socket when the relay
is
> > re-inserted.
> >
> > Re-insert the relay and you're done. You can now turn on the fogs with
> > either low beam or high beam headlights.
> >
> > On 1997-2000 TJs the relay is located behind the glove box door. You
remove
> > the glove box door and pull relay #2 (the one on the right) and bend pin
#1
> > (it's labeled.) Put the relay back in and test. If you have no fogs you
> > pulled the wrong relay. Just switch them and it should work.
> >
> > On another subject, for those who want more light when the bright
headlights
> > are on, install a KC Hilites Quad Beam Conversion Kit. It's part #6314
at
> > www.kchilites.com. This allows the low beam filaments to stay on along
with
> > the high beam filaments. The factory setup turns off the low filament
when
> > high beams are turned on. It works for 2-headlight systems and
4-headlight
> > systems. I did this on my 1994 Chevy Van, 1999 Chevy Van and my 2002 TJ.
> > Works great.
> >
> > Tom

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

I checked out the link you provided along with the part number 6314 and
found the following description:

Quad Beam headlight conversion kit - keeps low beams on when high beams are
activated. Works with most pre-2000 GM's (old body style) and 2003 full
size GM's.

The description sounds as if it is for GM products only. 1) Is this what I
need for my 2000 Wrangler and 2) from the picture, it appears that the kit
is for one light, meaning that I will need to buy 2 kits (one per light)?



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FBABE25.863E8237@cox.net...
> I thought I was the only one whom wired low and high beams
> together. I worried a little about whether my alternator would keep up
> idling over the dunes, but they never dimmed:
> http://----------.com/comphill.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> mabar wrote:
> >
> > I have read this entire thread and can't understand why you got some of
> > those nasty responses. You asked a legitimate question. It's true that
fog
> > lights are designed to be able to see better in fog. Adjusted properly,
they
> > throw a wide, low beam and are much more effective in fog than regular
> > headlights. In heavy fog, you should slow down, and use your fogs along
with
> > your parking lights, NOT headlights. Headlights can be blinding in heavy
fog
> > because so much light is reflected back into the driver's eyes.
> >
> > Your question was not about fog, it was about using the fogs with the
high
> > beams.
> >
> > It is NOT, repeat NOT illegal to have your fog lights on along with your
> > high beams. In fact in Ohio, you can have a total of 5 lights on the
front
> > of a vehicle lighted while on a roadway. They can be headlights, along
with
> > any combination of auxiliary lights, fogs included.
> >
> > When driving off-road, especially on dark forest trails or roads, I use
my
> > high beams and fogs to get as much light as possible. The fogs are
> > especially good for lighting the sides of the road to help avoid deer,
etc.
> >
> > Here are the directions for getting your fogs to work with your high
beams:
> >
> > On the '01 or '02 TJ, to get the fog lights to stay on with the high
beams,
> > follow these instructions:
> >
> > Find the #35 fog lamp relay inside the main fuse box, which is on the
> > passenger side of the engine under the hood. The relay is clearly
marked on
> > a diagram on the inside cover of the main fuse box.
> >
> > Pull the relay straight up and out of the socket. Carefully and slowly
bend
> > the #1 pin (it's marked) 180 degrees around to the side of the plastic
> > relay, so it will not make contact with its female socket when the relay
is
> > re-inserted.
> >
> > Re-insert the relay and you're done. You can now turn on the fogs with
> > either low beam or high beam headlights.
> >
> > On 1997-2000 TJs the relay is located behind the glove box door. You
remove
> > the glove box door and pull relay #2 (the one on the right) and bend pin
#1
> > (it's labeled.) Put the relay back in and test. If you have no fogs you
> > pulled the wrong relay. Just switch them and it should work.
> >
> > On another subject, for those who want more light when the bright
headlights
> > are on, install a KC Hilites Quad Beam Conversion Kit. It's part #6314
at
> > www.kchilites.com. This allows the low beam filaments to stay on along
with
> > the high beam filaments. The factory setup turns off the low filament
when
> > high beams are turned on. It works for 2-headlight systems and
4-headlight
> > systems. I did this on my 1994 Chevy Van, 1999 Chevy Van and my 2002 TJ.
> > Works great.
> >
> > Tom

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

I checked out the link you provided along with the part number 6314 and
found the following description:

Quad Beam headlight conversion kit - keeps low beams on when high beams are
activated. Works with most pre-2000 GM's (old body style) and 2003 full
size GM's.

The description sounds as if it is for GM products only. 1) Is this what I
need for my 2000 Wrangler and 2) from the picture, it appears that the kit
is for one light, meaning that I will need to buy 2 kits (one per light)?



"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3FBABE25.863E8237@cox.net...
> I thought I was the only one whom wired low and high beams
> together. I worried a little about whether my alternator would keep up
> idling over the dunes, but they never dimmed:
> http://----------.com/comphill.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> mabar wrote:
> >
> > I have read this entire thread and can't understand why you got some of
> > those nasty responses. You asked a legitimate question. It's true that
fog
> > lights are designed to be able to see better in fog. Adjusted properly,
they
> > throw a wide, low beam and are much more effective in fog than regular
> > headlights. In heavy fog, you should slow down, and use your fogs along
with
> > your parking lights, NOT headlights. Headlights can be blinding in heavy
fog
> > because so much light is reflected back into the driver's eyes.
> >
> > Your question was not about fog, it was about using the fogs with the
high
> > beams.
> >
> > It is NOT, repeat NOT illegal to have your fog lights on along with your
> > high beams. In fact in Ohio, you can have a total of 5 lights on the
front
> > of a vehicle lighted while on a roadway. They can be headlights, along
with
> > any combination of auxiliary lights, fogs included.
> >
> > When driving off-road, especially on dark forest trails or roads, I use
my
> > high beams and fogs to get as much light as possible. The fogs are
> > especially good for lighting the sides of the road to help avoid deer,
etc.
> >
> > Here are the directions for getting your fogs to work with your high
beams:
> >
> > On the '01 or '02 TJ, to get the fog lights to stay on with the high
beams,
> > follow these instructions:
> >
> > Find the #35 fog lamp relay inside the main fuse box, which is on the
> > passenger side of the engine under the hood. The relay is clearly
marked on
> > a diagram on the inside cover of the main fuse box.
> >
> > Pull the relay straight up and out of the socket. Carefully and slowly
bend
> > the #1 pin (it's marked) 180 degrees around to the side of the plastic
> > relay, so it will not make contact with its female socket when the relay
is
> > re-inserted.
> >
> > Re-insert the relay and you're done. You can now turn on the fogs with
> > either low beam or high beam headlights.
> >
> > On 1997-2000 TJs the relay is located behind the glove box door. You
remove
> > the glove box door and pull relay #2 (the one on the right) and bend pin
#1
> > (it's labeled.) Put the relay back in and test. If you have no fogs you
> > pulled the wrong relay. Just switch them and it should work.
> >
> > On another subject, for those who want more light when the bright
headlights
> > are on, install a KC Hilites Quad Beam Conversion Kit. It's part #6314
at
> > www.kchilites.com. This allows the low beam filaments to stay on along
with
> > the high beam filaments. The factory setup turns off the low filament
when
> > high beams are turned on. It works for 2-headlight systems and
4-headlight
> > systems. I did this on my 1994 Chevy Van, 1999 Chevy Van and my 2002 TJ.
> > Works great.
> >
> > Tom

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

I'm not sure why part #6314 is described that way. I used that part number
(only need one kit) on my '02 TJ and it works fine.

You could call KC Hilites at 928-635-2607, or contact them by email at:
http://www.kchilites.com/contact.html
and double check with them before ordering.

Tom


"JeePenn" <tchilson@penn.com> wrote in message
news:z4Nub.8067$Rk5.4829@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> I checked out the link you provided along with the part number 6314 and
> found the following description:
>
> Quad Beam headlight conversion kit - keeps low beams on when high beams
are
> activated. Works with most pre-2000 GM's (old body style) and 2003 full
> size GM's.
>
> The description sounds as if it is for GM products only. 1) Is this what
I
> need for my 2000 Wrangler and 2) from the picture, it appears that the kit
> is for one light, meaning that I will need to buy 2 kits (one per light)?
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3FBABE25.863E8237@cox.net...
> > I thought I was the only one whom wired low and high beams
> > together. I worried a little about whether my alternator would keep up
> > idling over the dunes, but they never dimmed:
> > http://----------.com/comphill.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > mabar wrote:
> > >
> > > I have read this entire thread and can't understand why you got some
of
> > > those nasty responses. You asked a legitimate question. It's true that
> fog
> > > lights are designed to be able to see better in fog. Adjusted
properly,
> they
> > > throw a wide, low beam and are much more effective in fog than regular
> > > headlights. In heavy fog, you should slow down, and use your fogs
along
> with
> > > your parking lights, NOT headlights. Headlights can be blinding in
heavy
> fog
> > > because so much light is reflected back into the driver's eyes.
> > >
> > > Your question was not about fog, it was about using the fogs with the

> high
> > > beams.
> > >
> > > It is NOT, repeat NOT illegal to have your fog lights on along with
your
> > > high beams. In fact in Ohio, you can have a total of 5 lights on the
> front
> > > of a vehicle lighted while on a roadway. They can be headlights, along
> with
> > > any combination of auxiliary lights, fogs included.
> > >
> > > When driving off-road, especially on dark forest trails or roads, I
use
> my
> > > high beams and fogs to get as much light as possible. The fogs are
> > > especially good for lighting the sides of the road to help avoid deer,
> etc.
> > >
> > > Here are the directions for getting your fogs to work with your high
> beams:
> > >
> > > On the '01 or '02 TJ, to get the fog lights to stay on with the high
> beams,
> > > follow these instructions:
> > >
> > > Find the #35 fog lamp relay inside the main fuse box, which is on the
> > > passenger side of the engine under the hood. The relay is clearly
> marked on
> > > a diagram on the inside cover of the main fuse box.
> > >
> > > Pull the relay straight up and out of the socket. Carefully and slowly
> bend
> > > the #1 pin (it's marked) 180 degrees around to the side of the plastic
> > > relay, so it will not make contact with its female socket when the
relay
> is
> > > re-inserted.
> > >
> > > Re-insert the relay and you're done. You can now turn on the fogs with
> > > either low beam or high beam headlights.
> > >
> > > On 1997-2000 TJs the relay is located behind the glove box door. You
> remove
> > > the glove box door and pull relay #2 (the one on the right) and bend
pin
> #1
> > > (it's labeled.) Put the relay back in and test. If you have no fogs
you
> > > pulled the wrong relay. Just switch them and it should work.
> > >
> > > On another subject, for those who want more light when the bright
> headlights
> > > are on, install a KC Hilites Quad Beam Conversion Kit. It's part #6314
> at
> > > www.kchilites.com. This allows the low beam filaments to stay on along
> with
> > > the high beam filaments. The factory setup turns off the low filament
> when
> > > high beams are turned on. It works for 2-headlight systems and
> 4-headlight
> > > systems. I did this on my 1994 Chevy Van, 1999 Chevy Van and my 2002
TJ.
> > > Works great.
> > >
> > > Tom
>
>

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

I'm not sure why part #6314 is described that way. I used that part number
(only need one kit) on my '02 TJ and it works fine.

You could call KC Hilites at 928-635-2607, or contact them by email at:
http://www.kchilites.com/contact.html
and double check with them before ordering.

Tom


"JeePenn" <tchilson@penn.com> wrote in message
news:z4Nub.8067$Rk5.4829@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> I checked out the link you provided along with the part number 6314 and
> found the following description:
>
> Quad Beam headlight conversion kit - keeps low beams on when high beams
are
> activated. Works with most pre-2000 GM's (old body style) and 2003 full
> size GM's.
>
> The description sounds as if it is for GM products only. 1) Is this what
I
> need for my 2000 Wrangler and 2) from the picture, it appears that the kit
> is for one light, meaning that I will need to buy 2 kits (one per light)?
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3FBABE25.863E8237@cox.net...
> > I thought I was the only one whom wired low and high beams
> > together. I worried a little about whether my alternator would keep up
> > idling over the dunes, but they never dimmed:
> > http://----------.com/comphill.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > mabar wrote:
> > >
> > > I have read this entire thread and can't understand why you got some
of
> > > those nasty responses. You asked a legitimate question. It's true that
> fog
> > > lights are designed to be able to see better in fog. Adjusted
properly,
> they
> > > throw a wide, low beam and are much more effective in fog than regular
> > > headlights. In heavy fog, you should slow down, and use your fogs
along
> with
> > > your parking lights, NOT headlights. Headlights can be blinding in
heavy
> fog
> > > because so much light is reflected back into the driver's eyes.
> > >
> > > Your question was not about fog, it was about using the fogs with the

> high
> > > beams.
> > >
> > > It is NOT, repeat NOT illegal to have your fog lights on along with
your
> > > high beams. In fact in Ohio, you can have a total of 5 lights on the
> front
> > > of a vehicle lighted while on a roadway. They can be headlights, along
> with
> > > any combination of auxiliary lights, fogs included.
> > >
> > > When driving off-road, especially on dark forest trails or roads, I
use
> my
> > > high beams and fogs to get as much light as possible. The fogs are
> > > especially good for lighting the sides of the road to help avoid deer,
> etc.
> > >
> > > Here are the directions for getting your fogs to work with your high
> beams:
> > >
> > > On the '01 or '02 TJ, to get the fog lights to stay on with the high
> beams,
> > > follow these instructions:
> > >
> > > Find the #35 fog lamp relay inside the main fuse box, which is on the
> > > passenger side of the engine under the hood. The relay is clearly
> marked on
> > > a diagram on the inside cover of the main fuse box.
> > >
> > > Pull the relay straight up and out of the socket. Carefully and slowly
> bend
> > > the #1 pin (it's marked) 180 degrees around to the side of the plastic
> > > relay, so it will not make contact with its female socket when the
relay
> is
> > > re-inserted.
> > >
> > > Re-insert the relay and you're done. You can now turn on the fogs with
> > > either low beam or high beam headlights.
> > >
> > > On 1997-2000 TJs the relay is located behind the glove box door. You
> remove
> > > the glove box door and pull relay #2 (the one on the right) and bend
pin
> #1
> > > (it's labeled.) Put the relay back in and test. If you have no fogs
you
> > > pulled the wrong relay. Just switch them and it should work.
> > >
> > > On another subject, for those who want more light when the bright
> headlights
> > > are on, install a KC Hilites Quad Beam Conversion Kit. It's part #6314
> at
> > > www.kchilites.com. This allows the low beam filaments to stay on along
> with
> > > the high beam filaments. The factory setup turns off the low filament
> when
> > > high beams are turned on. It works for 2-headlight systems and
> 4-headlight
> > > systems. I did this on my 1994 Chevy Van, 1999 Chevy Van and my 2002
TJ.
> > > Works great.
> > >
> > > Tom
>
>

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

I'm not sure why part #6314 is described that way. I used that part number
(only need one kit) on my '02 TJ and it works fine.

You could call KC Hilites at 928-635-2607, or contact them by email at:
http://www.kchilites.com/contact.html
and double check with them before ordering.

Tom


"JeePenn" <tchilson@penn.com> wrote in message
news:z4Nub.8067$Rk5.4829@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> I checked out the link you provided along with the part number 6314 and
> found the following description:
>
> Quad Beam headlight conversion kit - keeps low beams on when high beams
are
> activated. Works with most pre-2000 GM's (old body style) and 2003 full
> size GM's.
>
> The description sounds as if it is for GM products only. 1) Is this what
I
> need for my 2000 Wrangler and 2) from the picture, it appears that the kit
> is for one light, meaning that I will need to buy 2 kits (one per light)?
>
>
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:3FBABE25.863E8237@cox.net...
> > I thought I was the only one whom wired low and high beams
> > together. I worried a little about whether my alternator would keep up
> > idling over the dunes, but they never dimmed:
> > http://----------.com/comphill.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:--------------------
> >
> > mabar wrote:
> > >
> > > I have read this entire thread and can't understand why you got some
of
> > > those nasty responses. You asked a legitimate question. It's true that
> fog
> > > lights are designed to be able to see better in fog. Adjusted
properly,
> they
> > > throw a wide, low beam and are much more effective in fog than regular
> > > headlights. In heavy fog, you should slow down, and use your fogs
along
> with
> > > your parking lights, NOT headlights. Headlights can be blinding in
heavy
> fog
> > > because so much light is reflected back into the driver's eyes.
> > >
> > > Your question was not about fog, it was about using the fogs with the

> high
> > > beams.
> > >
> > > It is NOT, repeat NOT illegal to have your fog lights on along with
your
> > > high beams. In fact in Ohio, you can have a total of 5 lights on the
> front
> > > of a vehicle lighted while on a roadway. They can be headlights, along
> with
> > > any combination of auxiliary lights, fogs included.
> > >
> > > When driving off-road, especially on dark forest trails or roads, I
use
> my
> > > high beams and fogs to get as much light as possible. The fogs are
> > > especially good for lighting the sides of the road to help avoid deer,
> etc.
> > >
> > > Here are the directions for getting your fogs to work with your high
> beams:
> > >
> > > On the '01 or '02 TJ, to get the fog lights to stay on with the high
> beams,
> > > follow these instructions:
> > >
> > > Find the #35 fog lamp relay inside the main fuse box, which is on the
> > > passenger side of the engine under the hood. The relay is clearly
> marked on
> > > a diagram on the inside cover of the main fuse box.
> > >
> > > Pull the relay straight up and out of the socket. Carefully and slowly
> bend
> > > the #1 pin (it's marked) 180 degrees around to the side of the plastic
> > > relay, so it will not make contact with its female socket when the
relay
> is
> > > re-inserted.
> > >
> > > Re-insert the relay and you're done. You can now turn on the fogs with
> > > either low beam or high beam headlights.
> > >
> > > On 1997-2000 TJs the relay is located behind the glove box door. You
> remove
> > > the glove box door and pull relay #2 (the one on the right) and bend
pin
> #1
> > > (it's labeled.) Put the relay back in and test. If you have no fogs
you
> > > pulled the wrong relay. Just switch them and it should work.
> > >
> > > On another subject, for those who want more light when the bright
> headlights
> > > are on, install a KC Hilites Quad Beam Conversion Kit. It's part #6314
> at
> > > www.kchilites.com. This allows the low beam filaments to stay on along
> with
> > > the high beam filaments. The factory setup turns off the low filament
> when
> > > high beams are turned on. It works for 2-headlight systems and
> 4-headlight
> > > systems. I did this on my 1994 Chevy Van, 1999 Chevy Van and my 2002
TJ.
> > > Works great.
> > >
> > > Tom
>
>

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

Better be careful when picking a new handle. Bill complained a few weeks ago
about a person changing his handle. He prefers that we all use our real
name.

:)

Tom

"Smegma Breath" <tchilson@penn.com> wrote in message
news:xkLub.7977$Rk5.7950@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
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> I guess I will just have to come up with a new 'handle' and toss out the
> name Smegma Breath. Maybe something Jeep related (all suggestions will be
> appreciated).
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