Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

I have driven in fog so thick, that you could not see 10 feet in front of
the vehicle with the headlights on. I still maintain that in dense fog, the
headlights reflect way too much light back into the driver's eyes.

Tom

"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:vrnpfsilerjhd3@corp.supernews.com...
>
snip
>
> That's not true at all, you need both fog lamps and head lights at the
same
> time to have enough light to see where you are going.
>
> Running with fog lamps alone does not provide enough light to see where
you
> are going. What fog lights do is light up the the fog from a different
angle
> than the head lights, which cuts the reflected light from the head lights.
> You need headlamps and fog lights at the same time.
>

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

Thanks Doug. It does say: "Front fog lamps shall not be used in
substitution of headlamps, when headlamps are required." I would think that
headlights would be required at night, so if it's a foggy night it looks
like it would be illegal to run fogs alone in Oklahoma.

I guess that just shows that some laws don't make sense (to me at least.)

:)

Tom

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:zMQub.5355$3z5.3775@okepread01...
> mabar did pass the time by typing:
> > Hi Doug:
> >
> > Can you point me to the Oklahoma law that says it's illegal to have fogs
on
> > along with high beams, and the law that says you cannot run fogs without
> > headlights.
> >
> > When driving in really dense fog, it's almost impossible to see if the
> > headlights are on. They reflect almost all the light back into the
driver's
> > eyes in dense fog. The purpose of fogs is to throw a wide, low beam
under
> > the fog so the light is not reflected back into the driver's eyes.
Running
> > with both fogs and headlights on defeats the purpose of fog lights.
>
> http://www.lsb.state.ok.us/okstatute...tuestitle.html
> §47-12-217. Auxiliary, fog, and off-road lamps.
>
> It's an .rtf file (MsWord will open it) Long and dull.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

Thanks Doug. It does say: "Front fog lamps shall not be used in
substitution of headlamps, when headlamps are required." I would think that
headlights would be required at night, so if it's a foggy night it looks
like it would be illegal to run fogs alone in Oklahoma.

I guess that just shows that some laws don't make sense (to me at least.)

:)

Tom

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:zMQub.5355$3z5.3775@okepread01...
> mabar did pass the time by typing:
> > Hi Doug:
> >
> > Can you point me to the Oklahoma law that says it's illegal to have fogs
on
> > along with high beams, and the law that says you cannot run fogs without
> > headlights.
> >
> > When driving in really dense fog, it's almost impossible to see if the
> > headlights are on. They reflect almost all the light back into the
driver's
> > eyes in dense fog. The purpose of fogs is to throw a wide, low beam
under
> > the fog so the light is not reflected back into the driver's eyes.
Running
> > with both fogs and headlights on defeats the purpose of fog lights.
>
> http://www.lsb.state.ok.us/okstatute...tuestitle.html
> §47-12-217. Auxiliary, fog, and off-road lamps.
>
> It's an .rtf file (MsWord will open it) Long and dull.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

Thanks Doug. It does say: "Front fog lamps shall not be used in
substitution of headlamps, when headlamps are required." I would think that
headlights would be required at night, so if it's a foggy night it looks
like it would be illegal to run fogs alone in Oklahoma.

I guess that just shows that some laws don't make sense (to me at least.)

:)

Tom

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:zMQub.5355$3z5.3775@okepread01...
> mabar did pass the time by typing:
> > Hi Doug:
> >
> > Can you point me to the Oklahoma law that says it's illegal to have fogs
on
> > along with high beams, and the law that says you cannot run fogs without
> > headlights.
> >
> > When driving in really dense fog, it's almost impossible to see if the
> > headlights are on. They reflect almost all the light back into the
driver's
> > eyes in dense fog. The purpose of fogs is to throw a wide, low beam
under
> > the fog so the light is not reflected back into the driver's eyes.
Running
> > with both fogs and headlights on defeats the purpose of fog lights.
>
> http://www.lsb.state.ok.us/okstatute...tuestitle.html
> §47-12-217. Auxiliary, fog, and off-road lamps.
>
> It's an .rtf file (MsWord will open it) Long and dull.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

mabar did pass the time by typing:
> Thanks Doug. It does say: "Front fog lamps shall not be used in
> substitution of headlamps, when headlamps are required." I would think that
> headlights would be required at night, so if it's a foggy night it looks
> like it would be illegal to run fogs alone in Oklahoma.
>
> I guess that just shows that some laws don't make sense (to me at least.)
>
> :)

We had a law here that said if the business didn't have a hitching post
in the front you could ride your horse in. Till someone did.

There are a few other "jems" in the laws here and I'd imagine other states
have their share as well.

--
DougW

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

mabar did pass the time by typing:
> Thanks Doug. It does say: "Front fog lamps shall not be used in
> substitution of headlamps, when headlamps are required." I would think that
> headlights would be required at night, so if it's a foggy night it looks
> like it would be illegal to run fogs alone in Oklahoma.
>
> I guess that just shows that some laws don't make sense (to me at least.)
>
> :)

We had a law here that said if the business didn't have a hitching post
in the front you could ride your horse in. Till someone did.

There are a few other "jems" in the laws here and I'd imagine other states
have their share as well.

--
DougW

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

mabar did pass the time by typing:
> Thanks Doug. It does say: "Front fog lamps shall not be used in
> substitution of headlamps, when headlamps are required." I would think that
> headlights would be required at night, so if it's a foggy night it looks
> like it would be illegal to run fogs alone in Oklahoma.
>
> I guess that just shows that some laws don't make sense (to me at least.)
>
> :)

We had a law here that said if the business didn't have a hitching post
in the front you could ride your horse in. Till someone did.

There are a few other "jems" in the laws here and I'd imagine other states
have their share as well.

--
DougW

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

CRWLR wrote:
>
> "mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com> wrote in message
> news:Bb-dnZlHnK7v4yaiRVn-jg@gbronline.com...
> > Hi Doug:
> >
> > Can you point me to the Oklahoma law that says it's illegal to have fogs
> on
> > along with high beams, and the law that says you cannot run fogs without
> > headlights.
> >
> > When driving in really dense fog, it's almost impossible to see if the
> > headlights are on. They reflect almost all the light back into the
> driver's
> > eyes in dense fog. The purpose of fogs is to throw a wide, low beam under
> > the fog so the light is not reflected back into the driver's eyes. Running
> > with both fogs and headlights on defeats the purpose of fog lights.
> >
>
> That's not true at all, you need both fog lamps and head lights at the same
> time to have enough light to see where you are going.
>
> Running with fog lamps alone does not provide enough light to see where you
> are going. What fog lights do is light up the the fog from a different angle
> than the head lights, which cuts the reflected light from the head lights.
> You need headlamps and fog lights at the same time.

They call that out driving the lights. You need that low beam on or you
won't have time to stop from the time the lights let you see something
coming.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

CRWLR wrote:
>
> "mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com> wrote in message
> news:Bb-dnZlHnK7v4yaiRVn-jg@gbronline.com...
> > Hi Doug:
> >
> > Can you point me to the Oklahoma law that says it's illegal to have fogs
> on
> > along with high beams, and the law that says you cannot run fogs without
> > headlights.
> >
> > When driving in really dense fog, it's almost impossible to see if the
> > headlights are on. They reflect almost all the light back into the
> driver's
> > eyes in dense fog. The purpose of fogs is to throw a wide, low beam under
> > the fog so the light is not reflected back into the driver's eyes. Running
> > with both fogs and headlights on defeats the purpose of fog lights.
> >
>
> That's not true at all, you need both fog lamps and head lights at the same
> time to have enough light to see where you are going.
>
> Running with fog lamps alone does not provide enough light to see where you
> are going. What fog lights do is light up the the fog from a different angle
> than the head lights, which cuts the reflected light from the head lights.
> You need headlamps and fog lights at the same time.

They call that out driving the lights. You need that low beam on or you
won't have time to stop from the time the lights let you see something
coming.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

CRWLR wrote:
>
> "mabar" <mabar@NOSPAMgbronline.com> wrote in message
> news:Bb-dnZlHnK7v4yaiRVn-jg@gbronline.com...
> > Hi Doug:
> >
> > Can you point me to the Oklahoma law that says it's illegal to have fogs
> on
> > along with high beams, and the law that says you cannot run fogs without
> > headlights.
> >
> > When driving in really dense fog, it's almost impossible to see if the
> > headlights are on. They reflect almost all the light back into the
> driver's
> > eyes in dense fog. The purpose of fogs is to throw a wide, low beam under
> > the fog so the light is not reflected back into the driver's eyes. Running
> > with both fogs and headlights on defeats the purpose of fog lights.
> >
>
> That's not true at all, you need both fog lamps and head lights at the same
> time to have enough light to see where you are going.
>
> Running with fog lamps alone does not provide enough light to see where you
> are going. What fog lights do is light up the the fog from a different angle
> than the head lights, which cuts the reflected light from the head lights.
> You need headlamps and fog lights at the same time.

They call that out driving the lights. You need that low beam on or you
won't have time to stop from the time the lights let you see something
coming.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's