Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

mabar did pass the time by typing:

> It is NOT, repeat NOT illegal to have your fog lights on along with your
> high beams. In fact in Ohio, you can have a total of 5 lights on the front
> of a vehicle lighted while on a roadway. They can be headlights, along with
> any combination of auxiliary lights, fogs included.


Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on in
Oklahoma. Except if your off-road. Technically, defeating the interlock
is also illegal. But as anyone might suspect it's not enforced unless you
do something to irritate the police and they are looking for writeups.

It's also illegal to run the fogs without headlights. I almost got a ticket
for that but fortunately the cop bought my story of a blown fuse. In reality
I moved the relays power fuse from constant 12v to the lowbeam line.
(I had it set up so it could be run legally and bypassed by moving the fuse)

In Oklahoma it's three lights max (four if you have dual headlamps). All
others and all lights above 3' off the ground must be covered while on the
roadways. (also not heavily enforced)

> When driving off-road, especially on dark forest trails or roads, I use my
> high beams and fogs to get as much light as possible. The fogs are
> especially good for lighting the sides of the road to help avoid deer, etc.

Agreed.

--
DougW

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

mabar did pass the time by typing:

> It is NOT, repeat NOT illegal to have your fog lights on along with your
> high beams. In fact in Ohio, you can have a total of 5 lights on the front
> of a vehicle lighted while on a roadway. They can be headlights, along with
> any combination of auxiliary lights, fogs included.


Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on in
Oklahoma. Except if your off-road. Technically, defeating the interlock
is also illegal. But as anyone might suspect it's not enforced unless you
do something to irritate the police and they are looking for writeups.

It's also illegal to run the fogs without headlights. I almost got a ticket
for that but fortunately the cop bought my story of a blown fuse. In reality
I moved the relays power fuse from constant 12v to the lowbeam line.
(I had it set up so it could be run legally and bypassed by moving the fuse)

In Oklahoma it's three lights max (four if you have dual headlamps). All
others and all lights above 3' off the ground must be covered while on the
roadways. (also not heavily enforced)

> When driving off-road, especially on dark forest trails or roads, I use my
> high beams and fogs to get as much light as possible. The fogs are
> especially good for lighting the sides of the road to help avoid deer, etc.

Agreed.

--
DougW

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

mabar did pass the time by typing:

> It is NOT, repeat NOT illegal to have your fog lights on along with your
> high beams. In fact in Ohio, you can have a total of 5 lights on the front
> of a vehicle lighted while on a roadway. They can be headlights, along with
> any combination of auxiliary lights, fogs included.


Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on in
Oklahoma. Except if your off-road. Technically, defeating the interlock
is also illegal. But as anyone might suspect it's not enforced unless you
do something to irritate the police and they are looking for writeups.

It's also illegal to run the fogs without headlights. I almost got a ticket
for that but fortunately the cop bought my story of a blown fuse. In reality
I moved the relays power fuse from constant 12v to the lowbeam line.
(I had it set up so it could be run legally and bypassed by moving the fuse)

In Oklahoma it's three lights max (four if you have dual headlamps). All
others and all lights above 3' off the ground must be covered while on the
roadways. (also not heavily enforced)

> When driving off-road, especially on dark forest trails or roads, I use my
> high beams and fogs to get as much light as possible. The fogs are
> especially good for lighting the sides of the road to help avoid deer, etc.

Agreed.

--
DougW

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

Approximately 11/18/03 13:29, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:

> I'm another that rewire their stock fog lights to also light with
> the high beams. High beams are the only way to go on a lonely twisting
> mountain road, but without the side lighting the fog lights give, I
> can't tell where in the road I am or if the high lights that are not
> reflecting off of any thing means I'm about to drive off a cliff.

Isn't it easier to just put a good set of relays at the lights
and wire them so the low beam comes on even when the high beam
does? The low beam usually has a much brighter and wider pattern
than a fog... not that it is hard to also set up so the fogs
come on as well.

--
My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

Approximately 11/18/03 13:29, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:

> I'm another that rewire their stock fog lights to also light with
> the high beams. High beams are the only way to go on a lonely twisting
> mountain road, but without the side lighting the fog lights give, I
> can't tell where in the road I am or if the high lights that are not
> reflecting off of any thing means I'm about to drive off a cliff.

Isn't it easier to just put a good set of relays at the lights
and wire them so the low beam comes on even when the high beam
does? The low beam usually has a much brighter and wider pattern
than a fog... not that it is hard to also set up so the fogs
come on as well.

--
My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

Approximately 11/18/03 13:29, L.W.(ßill) ------ III uttered for posterity:

> I'm another that rewire their stock fog lights to also light with
> the high beams. High beams are the only way to go on a lonely twisting
> mountain road, but without the side lighting the fog lights give, I
> can't tell where in the road I am or if the high lights that are not
> reflecting off of any thing means I'm about to drive off a cliff.

Isn't it easier to just put a good set of relays at the lights
and wire them so the low beam comes on even when the high beam
does? The low beam usually has a much brighter and wider pattern
than a fog... not that it is hard to also set up so the fogs
come on as well.

--
My governor can kick your governor's ass

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

> Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on in
> Oklahoma.

Same in California. I figured with a name like that, the questioner was in
San Francisco.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

> Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on in
> Oklahoma.

Same in California. I figured with a name like that, the questioner was in
San Francisco.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

> Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on in
> Oklahoma.

Same in California. I figured with a name like that, the questioner was in
San Francisco.

--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: 2000 Jeep Wrangler Fog Light Mod Questions
 

I do not have a problem with people that add lights and the necessary wiring
to a vehicle.. there are light bars out there made for the job.. four KC's
on top will scare bears and deer, and can be angled to cover huge amounts of
ground.. a far more satisfactory solution than bending contacts on relays..

I will apologize for the 'idiot' label, but the 'I like to drive at high
speed... and now I have found a way to ensure that all front lights show
regardless of high/low beam' was like a red rag to a bull.. combine this
with a poster who asked if it was ok to fit 185/65-15's on Cherokee
Pepperpot rims, and you have a picture of how other road users see 4x4/SUV
divers and offroaders.. full of arrogance and with little or no respect for
safety of themselves or others, nature conservancy or the law..

I will go sit in my corner now and consider taking a happy pill.. lol



--
History is only the past if we choose to do nothing about it..

"Paul Calman" <spam@trap.com> wrote in message
news:bpejr1$1nl4bf$1@ID-87669.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Some of us aren't in Ohio. It's illegal to have fogs and high-beams on
in
> > Oklahoma.
>
> Same in California. I figured with a name like that, the questioner was in
> San Francisco.
>
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>