"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11c6q4ibnfcr0fe@corp.supernews.com...
> "Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:zMrwe.720$U61.133@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
> > I know I'm right, Nate... so does everyone else.
>
> bandwagon argument might get you somewhere with preschoolers but it just
> doesnt fly here.

Where's the support? Aside from poor Bill, who thinks that
air can't cross the Equator... Who's stepped up to bat for
your theories?

> > If they don't make it to the atmosphere,
> > then they have to magically disappear, right?

Well? Do they disappear? Or do I get to put
*another* notch on the gunstock?

> i thought about you today stephen, and couldnt help but smile.

I am indeed touched... you think about me during the day!

> i was
> working on a system that had been installed improperly by my customer's
> former service company. at startup the HMC blew off due to improper
> welding. just under 600 pounds of hp80 vented and there was nothing i could
> do but valve off what i could until the CONCENTRATION of the hp80 reached a
> dangerous level and i had to evacuate the room. after it was all over i
> just couldnt help but grin, and not just because i knew i was getting ready
> to sell $5300 worth of refrigerant + my 40% mark up. i knew that telling
> you about this would probably make you cry.
>
> today 600 pounds of hp80 vented. cry stephen. :-)

Do you understand the difference wrt the ozone layer
between HFC, HCFC, and CFC? I don't get that you
do.... Suva is HCFC based, so it's *much* less of
a problem... that's why it's legal for you to install
new systems using it. Use some of that markup to
buy yourself a clue!
__
Steve
..

 

Stevie, I live in Silverton, CO, where the "insiders" are all insane,
mentally retarded, or both. They don't even consider themselves subject to
the laws of Colorado, which is libertarian by most people's standards. You
appear to be the kind of guy who really enjoys beating his head against a
wall. You should come up here and help me teach the local idiots some
respect, with your vast knowledge and all...

Earle

"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:e5Mwe.1063$U61.874@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com ...
....
Perhaps giving his remarks the clarity of objectivity? Being
an 'insider' hasn't done much for your grasp of the applicable
science, Nate... he drew a picture of the molecule in ASCII,
I thought that was pretty impressive! Perhaps he'll give us
an explanation of partial pressures, or Boyle's Law next.
Do the Carnot Cycle!


__
Steve
..

 

Stevie, I live in Silverton, CO, where the "insiders" are all insane,
mentally retarded, or both. They don't even consider themselves subject to
the laws of Colorado, which is libertarian by most people's standards. You
appear to be the kind of guy who really enjoys beating his head against a
wall. You should come up here and help me teach the local idiots some
respect, with your vast knowledge and all...

Earle

"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:e5Mwe.1063$U61.874@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com ...
....
Perhaps giving his remarks the clarity of objectivity? Being
an 'insider' hasn't done much for your grasp of the applicable
science, Nate... he drew a picture of the molecule in ASCII,
I thought that was pretty impressive! Perhaps he'll give us
an explanation of partial pressures, or Boyle's Law next.
Do the Carnot Cycle!


__
Steve
..

 

Stevie, I live in Silverton, CO, where the "insiders" are all insane,
mentally retarded, or both. They don't even consider themselves subject to
the laws of Colorado, which is libertarian by most people's standards. You
appear to be the kind of guy who really enjoys beating his head against a
wall. You should come up here and help me teach the local idiots some
respect, with your vast knowledge and all...

Earle

"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:e5Mwe.1063$U61.874@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com ...
....
Perhaps giving his remarks the clarity of objectivity? Being
an 'insider' hasn't done much for your grasp of the applicable
science, Nate... he drew a picture of the molecule in ASCII,
I thought that was pretty impressive! Perhaps he'll give us
an explanation of partial pressures, or Boyle's Law next.
Do the Carnot Cycle!


__
Steve
..

 

Stevie, I live in Silverton, CO, where the "insiders" are all insane,
mentally retarded, or both. They don't even consider themselves subject to
the laws of Colorado, which is libertarian by most people's standards. You
appear to be the kind of guy who really enjoys beating his head against a
wall. You should come up here and help me teach the local idiots some
respect, with your vast knowledge and all...

Earle

"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:e5Mwe.1063$U61.874@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com ...
....
Perhaps giving his remarks the clarity of objectivity? Being
an 'insider' hasn't done much for your grasp of the applicable
science, Nate... he drew a picture of the molecule in ASCII,
I thought that was pretty impressive! Perhaps he'll give us
an explanation of partial pressures, or Boyle's Law next.
Do the Carnot Cycle!


__
Steve
..

 

Stevie, your links make no mention of Chlorine or Fluorine which is what
we were arguing about in Chlorofluorocarbons and only confirm their
absents, even in the parts per million. Fortunately the atmosphere has
carbon, because that's what every living thing is made of. You can snow
a Snowbird, but you can't sh*t a Shitbird.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_atmosphere
>
> <>
> Heterosphere
> Below an altitude of about 100 km, the Earth's atmosphere has a more-or-less uniform composition (apart from water vapor) as described above. However, above about 100 km, the Earth's atmosphere begins to have a composition which varies with altitude. This is essentially because, in the absence of mixing, the density of a gas falls off exponentially with increasing altitude, but at a rate which depends on the molecular mass. Thus higher mass constituents, such as oxygen and nitrogen, fall off more quickly than lighter constituents such as helium, molecular hydrogen, and atomic hydrogen. Thus there is a layer, called the heterosphere, in which the earth's atmosphere has varying composition. As the altitude increases, the atmosphere is dominated successively by helium, molecular hydrogen, and atomic hydrogen. The precise altitude of the heterosphere and the layers it contains varies significantly with temperature.[2]
> </>
>
> http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...+layer&x=0&y=0
>
> <>
> Main Entry: ozone layer
> Function: noun
> : an atmospheric layer at heights of about 20 to 30 miles (32 to 48 kilometers) that is normally characterized by high ozone content which blocks most solar ultraviolet radiation from entry into the lower atmosphere
> </>
>
> I'm not going to expect you to believe this stuff...
> you don't have a history of that. Here it is,
> nonetheless.
> __
> Steve
> .

 

Stevie, your links make no mention of Chlorine or Fluorine which is what
we were arguing about in Chlorofluorocarbons and only confirm their
absents, even in the parts per million. Fortunately the atmosphere has
carbon, because that's what every living thing is made of. You can snow
a Snowbird, but you can't sh*t a Shitbird.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_atmosphere
>
> <>
> Heterosphere
> Below an altitude of about 100 km, the Earth's atmosphere has a more-or-less uniform composition (apart from water vapor) as described above. However, above about 100 km, the Earth's atmosphere begins to have a composition which varies with altitude. This is essentially because, in the absence of mixing, the density of a gas falls off exponentially with increasing altitude, but at a rate which depends on the molecular mass. Thus higher mass constituents, such as oxygen and nitrogen, fall off more quickly than lighter constituents such as helium, molecular hydrogen, and atomic hydrogen. Thus there is a layer, called the heterosphere, in which the earth's atmosphere has varying composition. As the altitude increases, the atmosphere is dominated successively by helium, molecular hydrogen, and atomic hydrogen. The precise altitude of the heterosphere and the layers it contains varies significantly with temperature.[2]
> </>
>
> http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...+layer&x=0&y=0
>
> <>
> Main Entry: ozone layer
> Function: noun
> : an atmospheric layer at heights of about 20 to 30 miles (32 to 48 kilometers) that is normally characterized by high ozone content which blocks most solar ultraviolet radiation from entry into the lower atmosphere
> </>
>
> I'm not going to expect you to believe this stuff...
> you don't have a history of that. Here it is,
> nonetheless.
> __
> Steve
> .

 

Stevie, your links make no mention of Chlorine or Fluorine which is what
we were arguing about in Chlorofluorocarbons and only confirm their
absents, even in the parts per million. Fortunately the atmosphere has
carbon, because that's what every living thing is made of. You can snow
a Snowbird, but you can't sh*t a Shitbird.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_atmosphere
>
> <>
> Heterosphere
> Below an altitude of about 100 km, the Earth's atmosphere has a more-or-less uniform composition (apart from water vapor) as described above. However, above about 100 km, the Earth's atmosphere begins to have a composition which varies with altitude. This is essentially because, in the absence of mixing, the density of a gas falls off exponentially with increasing altitude, but at a rate which depends on the molecular mass. Thus higher mass constituents, such as oxygen and nitrogen, fall off more quickly than lighter constituents such as helium, molecular hydrogen, and atomic hydrogen. Thus there is a layer, called the heterosphere, in which the earth's atmosphere has varying composition. As the altitude increases, the atmosphere is dominated successively by helium, molecular hydrogen, and atomic hydrogen. The precise altitude of the heterosphere and the layers it contains varies significantly with temperature.[2]
> </>
>
> http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...+layer&x=0&y=0
>
> <>
> Main Entry: ozone layer
> Function: noun
> : an atmospheric layer at heights of about 20 to 30 miles (32 to 48 kilometers) that is normally characterized by high ozone content which blocks most solar ultraviolet radiation from entry into the lower atmosphere
> </>
>
> I'm not going to expect you to believe this stuff...
> you don't have a history of that. Here it is,
> nonetheless.
> __
> Steve
> .

 

Stevie, your links make no mention of Chlorine or Fluorine which is what
we were arguing about in Chlorofluorocarbons and only confirm their
absents, even in the parts per million. Fortunately the atmosphere has
carbon, because that's what every living thing is made of. You can snow
a Snowbird, but you can't sh*t a Shitbird.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Stephen Cowell wrote:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_atmosphere
>
> <>
> Heterosphere
> Below an altitude of about 100 km, the Earth's atmosphere has a more-or-less uniform composition (apart from water vapor) as described above. However, above about 100 km, the Earth's atmosphere begins to have a composition which varies with altitude. This is essentially because, in the absence of mixing, the density of a gas falls off exponentially with increasing altitude, but at a rate which depends on the molecular mass. Thus higher mass constituents, such as oxygen and nitrogen, fall off more quickly than lighter constituents such as helium, molecular hydrogen, and atomic hydrogen. Thus there is a layer, called the heterosphere, in which the earth's atmosphere has varying composition. As the altitude increases, the atmosphere is dominated successively by helium, molecular hydrogen, and atomic hydrogen. The precise altitude of the heterosphere and the layers it contains varies significantly with temperature.[2]
> </>
>
> http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...+layer&x=0&y=0
>
> <>
> Main Entry: ozone layer
> Function: noun
> : an atmospheric layer at heights of about 20 to 30 miles (32 to 48 kilometers) that is normally characterized by high ozone content which blocks most solar ultraviolet radiation from entry into the lower atmosphere
> </>
>
> I'm not going to expect you to believe this stuff...
> you don't have a history of that. Here it is,
> nonetheless.
> __
> Steve
> .

 

Think a little harder, the sun is responsible for your wind and
everything on this earth including the ozone, that Stevie is so vain as
to think we may have any part in.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

jeff wrote:
>
> I know someone who lives in suburbia has a difficult time understanding
> the natural world, but from my perspective, environmentalism is not a
> liberal/conservative pivot point. It is about conserving the environment
> so that my children and grandchildren can hunt, fish, hike, camp and
> perhaps through this, gain some measure of their place in the universe.
> I grew up in western Pennsylvania at a time when strip mining was
> destroying all the deer habitat and the acid run off from them destroyed
> most of the trout streams. Indiscriminant use of DDT wiped out most of
> the native large birds to the point where hunting turkey and duck were
> not worth the effort. From the top of a hill it was easy to mark the
> direction to Pittsburgh from the sooty gray plume. Now 35 years later,
> due in large measure to laws such as the clean air act and clean water
> act I see a marked change for the better. The deer herd has come back,
> as have the fisheries. This morning I saw over a dozen turkeys in my
> back yard and I have ducks living in my pond. For these reasons I have
> no problem with some portion of my tax dollars going to fund the EPA.
> Without them we would have one continuous Love Canal from coast to coast.
>
> BTW, to answer your question in a manner that even the common layman can
> understand: Wind is responsible for atmospheric mixing. Think about it
> like a bottle of Italian salad dressing: In the cool quiet isolation of
> your refrigerator it separates. The heavy chunky bits settle to the
> bottom and the oil rises to the top. Shake it and it becomes a uniform
> mixture. This act of shaking is akin to the normal atmospheric
> turbulence called wind. Thermal kinetic energy imparts Brownian motion.
>
> --
> jeff