"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:Qygwe.1746$Ku6.1305@trnddc04...
> > Well, no ---- Sherlock! EXCEPT the conversation was about CFCs which are
> > MOLECULES! Come on Google boy, what is the atomic weight of Freon-12,
and
> > what is it's element number?
>
> dont be stupid. refrigerant (non brand specific which you should know if
> youre who you insinuate you are) is made up of those same elements. when
> even one of them is heavier than air it will sink below it.

Just like the argon pool we're drowning in! Help!
__
Steve
..

Well heck, that means I've been wasting all this money on shielding gas for
the MIG welder when I needn't have! There's no pesky lighweight oxygen down
here on the ground to wreck my welds anyway!!!

/Peter

 

Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:mkfwe.2711$dz6.2664@trnddc02...
>
>>BTW, O3 (Ozone) has a specific gravity of 1.66. How come there is an ozone
>>layer if it is "heavier than air"?
>
>
> i didnt say specific gravity. i said atomic weight. look on the table of
> elements.

Did you even take high school chemistry??? There is specific language
that has defined and agreed upon meanings. Specific gravity is the
correct term when discussing when relative weight of one entity (be it a
single atom, a mono atomic molecule, or a compound) in comparison to a
standard, in this case "air". This *IS* what you are saying when you
state that refrigerants are heavier than air.
>
>
>
> what are your specific credentials? if you claim to be within the
> refrigeration/hvac industry ive gotta question that will tell me if you know
> your *** from a hole in the ground.
>

I'm one of those engineers that you don't like. Five years of
engineering school for my BS, some additional grad school to round
things out a bit. Thermodynamics, fluid mechanics, heat transfer in
addition to three years each of chemistry and physics.

--
jeff

 

Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:mkfwe.2711$dz6.2664@trnddc02...
>
>>BTW, O3 (Ozone) has a specific gravity of 1.66. How come there is an ozone
>>layer if it is "heavier than air"?
>
>
> i didnt say specific gravity. i said atomic weight. look on the table of
> elements.

Did you even take high school chemistry??? There is specific language
that has defined and agreed upon meanings. Specific gravity is the
correct term when discussing when relative weight of one entity (be it a
single atom, a mono atomic molecule, or a compound) in comparison to a
standard, in this case "air". This *IS* what you are saying when you
state that refrigerants are heavier than air.
>
>
>
> what are your specific credentials? if you claim to be within the
> refrigeration/hvac industry ive gotta question that will tell me if you know
> your *** from a hole in the ground.
>

I'm one of those engineers that you don't like. Five years of
engineering school for my BS, some additional grad school to round
things out a bit. Thermodynamics, fluid mechanics, heat transfer in
addition to three years each of chemistry and physics.

--
jeff

 

Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:mkfwe.2711$dz6.2664@trnddc02...
>
>>BTW, O3 (Ozone) has a specific gravity of 1.66. How come there is an ozone
>>layer if it is "heavier than air"?
>
>
> i didnt say specific gravity. i said atomic weight. look on the table of
> elements.

Did you even take high school chemistry??? There is specific language
that has defined and agreed upon meanings. Specific gravity is the
correct term when discussing when relative weight of one entity (be it a
single atom, a mono atomic molecule, or a compound) in comparison to a
standard, in this case "air". This *IS* what you are saying when you
state that refrigerants are heavier than air.
>
>
>
> what are your specific credentials? if you claim to be within the
> refrigeration/hvac industry ive gotta question that will tell me if you know
> your *** from a hole in the ground.
>

I'm one of those engineers that you don't like. Five years of
engineering school for my BS, some additional grad school to round
things out a bit. Thermodynamics, fluid mechanics, heat transfer in
addition to three years each of chemistry and physics.

--
jeff

 

Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:mkfwe.2711$dz6.2664@trnddc02...
>
>>BTW, O3 (Ozone) has a specific gravity of 1.66. How come there is an ozone
>>layer if it is "heavier than air"?
>
>
> i didnt say specific gravity. i said atomic weight. look on the table of
> elements.

Did you even take high school chemistry??? There is specific language
that has defined and agreed upon meanings. Specific gravity is the
correct term when discussing when relative weight of one entity (be it a
single atom, a mono atomic molecule, or a compound) in comparison to a
standard, in this case "air". This *IS* what you are saying when you
state that refrigerants are heavier than air.
>
>
>
> what are your specific credentials? if you claim to be within the
> refrigeration/hvac industry ive gotta question that will tell me if you know
> your *** from a hole in the ground.
>

I'm one of those engineers that you don't like. Five years of
engineering school for my BS, some additional grad school to round
things out a bit. Thermodynamics, fluid mechanics, heat transfer in
addition to three years each of chemistry and physics.

--
jeff

 

"Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message news:23bb9$42c27775$422afe88$29864@FUSE.NET...
....
>I wrote:
> "Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote :
>> > Perhaps I am showing my age or reflecting on the "knowledge" based
>> > education I received in the pre-(wacko) environmentalist days by teachers
>> > who taught for the love of teaching and the sacred duty of passing
>> > education to the youth of our civilization and not the current generation
>> > of mal-content, long haired ,pinko, commie, liberal, tree hugging, volvo
>> > driving, teddy kennedy-eugene mccarthy- jimmy carter-clinton voting,
>> > perverts who went into teaching because it offered an automatic exemption
>> > from national service during the Vietnam war.

>> You're a *real* poopie-head... talk to your NeoCon buddies
>> about *exemptions*... cowards all. George Will, Pat Buchannan,
>> Bill O'Reilly, Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Bill Kristol, Rush Limbaugh,
>> Phil Gramm, Clarence Thomas, Newt Gingrich, Saxby Chambliss,
>> Bill Bennett, Ken Starr, Judd Gregg, John Ashcroft, Tom Delay...
>> ---- Cheney... deferred. Chickenhawks, we call them.

> I find it odd that Democrats are suddenly so very interested in the
> particulars of military service. They didn't seem to care during Clinton's
> electoral process.

Whimpering noted! Clinton didn't commit the country
to *war*, on trumped-up evidence... that's the '-hawk'
part of 'chickenhawk'. Impressive list, isn't it?

>> Let's talk for a minute about your buddy, Dennis Rader...
>> model citizen, though just like you, voted just like you,
>> looked just like you... the sickest f*ck out there. He's
>> your buddy... you deserve him.

You're not going to defend your *buddy*? He certainly
wasn't a "mal-content, long haired ,pinko, commie, liberal,
tree hugging, volvo-driving, teddy kennedy-eugene mccarthy-
jimmy carter-clinton voting, pervert(s)"... he was of the
much more dangerous kind, a RW wacko... like McVey
or Koresh. Strange how excesses on the Left are never
quite as awe-inspiring as those on the Right... Clinton's
pecker vs. Iraq, basically.
__
Steve
..

 

"Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message news:23bb9$42c27775$422afe88$29864@FUSE.NET...
....
>I wrote:
> "Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote :
>> > Perhaps I am showing my age or reflecting on the "knowledge" based
>> > education I received in the pre-(wacko) environmentalist days by teachers
>> > who taught for the love of teaching and the sacred duty of passing
>> > education to the youth of our civilization and not the current generation
>> > of mal-content, long haired ,pinko, commie, liberal, tree hugging, volvo
>> > driving, teddy kennedy-eugene mccarthy- jimmy carter-clinton voting,
>> > perverts who went into teaching because it offered an automatic exemption
>> > from national service during the Vietnam war.

>> You're a *real* poopie-head... talk to your NeoCon buddies
>> about *exemptions*... cowards all. George Will, Pat Buchannan,
>> Bill O'Reilly, Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Bill Kristol, Rush Limbaugh,
>> Phil Gramm, Clarence Thomas, Newt Gingrich, Saxby Chambliss,
>> Bill Bennett, Ken Starr, Judd Gregg, John Ashcroft, Tom Delay...
>> ---- Cheney... deferred. Chickenhawks, we call them.

> I find it odd that Democrats are suddenly so very interested in the
> particulars of military service. They didn't seem to care during Clinton's
> electoral process.

Whimpering noted! Clinton didn't commit the country
to *war*, on trumped-up evidence... that's the '-hawk'
part of 'chickenhawk'. Impressive list, isn't it?

>> Let's talk for a minute about your buddy, Dennis Rader...
>> model citizen, though just like you, voted just like you,
>> looked just like you... the sickest f*ck out there. He's
>> your buddy... you deserve him.

You're not going to defend your *buddy*? He certainly
wasn't a "mal-content, long haired ,pinko, commie, liberal,
tree hugging, volvo-driving, teddy kennedy-eugene mccarthy-
jimmy carter-clinton voting, pervert(s)"... he was of the
much more dangerous kind, a RW wacko... like McVey
or Koresh. Strange how excesses on the Left are never
quite as awe-inspiring as those on the Right... Clinton's
pecker vs. Iraq, basically.
__
Steve
..

 

"Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message news:23bb9$42c27775$422afe88$29864@FUSE.NET...
....
>I wrote:
> "Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote :
>> > Perhaps I am showing my age or reflecting on the "knowledge" based
>> > education I received in the pre-(wacko) environmentalist days by teachers
>> > who taught for the love of teaching and the sacred duty of passing
>> > education to the youth of our civilization and not the current generation
>> > of mal-content, long haired ,pinko, commie, liberal, tree hugging, volvo
>> > driving, teddy kennedy-eugene mccarthy- jimmy carter-clinton voting,
>> > perverts who went into teaching because it offered an automatic exemption
>> > from national service during the Vietnam war.

>> You're a *real* poopie-head... talk to your NeoCon buddies
>> about *exemptions*... cowards all. George Will, Pat Buchannan,
>> Bill O'Reilly, Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Bill Kristol, Rush Limbaugh,
>> Phil Gramm, Clarence Thomas, Newt Gingrich, Saxby Chambliss,
>> Bill Bennett, Ken Starr, Judd Gregg, John Ashcroft, Tom Delay...
>> ---- Cheney... deferred. Chickenhawks, we call them.

> I find it odd that Democrats are suddenly so very interested in the
> particulars of military service. They didn't seem to care during Clinton's
> electoral process.

Whimpering noted! Clinton didn't commit the country
to *war*, on trumped-up evidence... that's the '-hawk'
part of 'chickenhawk'. Impressive list, isn't it?

>> Let's talk for a minute about your buddy, Dennis Rader...
>> model citizen, though just like you, voted just like you,
>> looked just like you... the sickest f*ck out there. He's
>> your buddy... you deserve him.

You're not going to defend your *buddy*? He certainly
wasn't a "mal-content, long haired ,pinko, commie, liberal,
tree hugging, volvo-driving, teddy kennedy-eugene mccarthy-
jimmy carter-clinton voting, pervert(s)"... he was of the
much more dangerous kind, a RW wacko... like McVey
or Koresh. Strange how excesses on the Left are never
quite as awe-inspiring as those on the Right... Clinton's
pecker vs. Iraq, basically.
__
Steve
..

 

"Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote in message news:23bb9$42c27775$422afe88$29864@FUSE.NET...
....
>I wrote:
> "Billy Ray" <jpbSPAM357@junoSPAM.com> wrote :
>> > Perhaps I am showing my age or reflecting on the "knowledge" based
>> > education I received in the pre-(wacko) environmentalist days by teachers
>> > who taught for the love of teaching and the sacred duty of passing
>> > education to the youth of our civilization and not the current generation
>> > of mal-content, long haired ,pinko, commie, liberal, tree hugging, volvo
>> > driving, teddy kennedy-eugene mccarthy- jimmy carter-clinton voting,
>> > perverts who went into teaching because it offered an automatic exemption
>> > from national service during the Vietnam war.

>> You're a *real* poopie-head... talk to your NeoCon buddies
>> about *exemptions*... cowards all. George Will, Pat Buchannan,
>> Bill O'Reilly, Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, Bill Kristol, Rush Limbaugh,
>> Phil Gramm, Clarence Thomas, Newt Gingrich, Saxby Chambliss,
>> Bill Bennett, Ken Starr, Judd Gregg, John Ashcroft, Tom Delay...
>> ---- Cheney... deferred. Chickenhawks, we call them.

> I find it odd that Democrats are suddenly so very interested in the
> particulars of military service. They didn't seem to care during Clinton's
> electoral process.

Whimpering noted! Clinton didn't commit the country
to *war*, on trumped-up evidence... that's the '-hawk'
part of 'chickenhawk'. Impressive list, isn't it?

>> Let's talk for a minute about your buddy, Dennis Rader...
>> model citizen, though just like you, voted just like you,
>> looked just like you... the sickest f*ck out there. He's
>> your buddy... you deserve him.

You're not going to defend your *buddy*? He certainly
wasn't a "mal-content, long haired ,pinko, commie, liberal,
tree hugging, volvo-driving, teddy kennedy-eugene mccarthy-
jimmy carter-clinton voting, pervert(s)"... he was of the
much more dangerous kind, a RW wacko... like McVey
or Koresh. Strange how excesses on the Left are never
quite as awe-inspiring as those on the Right... Clinton's
pecker vs. Iraq, basically.
__
Steve
..

 

Steve isn't getting enough. I have seen the symptoms before, but thank God
never experienced them. I don't know why the rest of you boys insist on
playing with him.

Earle

"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:BRrwe.721$U61.413@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..

Well, let's all line up to kiss his ***! I've dealt with
enough millionaires to know that they can be losers
too... this one sounds like a prime example of an
-------, albeit a rich -------. Notice who hangs
around these types... draws 'em like flies.
__
Steve
..