134a Refrigerant
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Stephen Cowell wrote:
> "Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11c3ud5t58up943@corp.supernews.com...
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>>"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
>>news:r2jwe.6303$gm6.2995@trnddc05...
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>>>Freon is a *compound*.
>>
>>WRONG! "freon" is a brand.
>
>
> Well, he's obviously got you there... since it's a brand,
> it *can't* be a compound... we all know that. Once
> you brand it, then the molecules behave differently!
> __
> Steve
> .
>
Of course. thermal breakdown ;-)
I got a paper cut from a xerox. I had to put a bandaid on it after
wiping it off with a kleenex.
--
jeff
> "Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11c3ud5t58up943@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
>>news:r2jwe.6303$gm6.2995@trnddc05...
>>
>>>Freon is a *compound*.
>>
>>WRONG! "freon" is a brand.
>
>
> Well, he's obviously got you there... since it's a brand,
> it *can't* be a compound... we all know that. Once
> you brand it, then the molecules behave differently!
> __
> Steve
> .
>
Of course. thermal breakdown ;-)
I got a paper cut from a xerox. I had to put a bandaid on it after
wiping it off with a kleenex.
--
jeff
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Stephen Cowell wrote:
> "Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11c3ud5t58up943@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
>>news:r2jwe.6303$gm6.2995@trnddc05...
>>
>>>Freon is a *compound*.
>>
>>WRONG! "freon" is a brand.
>
>
> Well, he's obviously got you there... since it's a brand,
> it *can't* be a compound... we all know that. Once
> you brand it, then the molecules behave differently!
> __
> Steve
> .
>
Of course. thermal breakdown ;-)
I got a paper cut from a xerox. I had to put a bandaid on it after
wiping it off with a kleenex.
--
jeff
> "Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11c3ud5t58up943@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
>>news:r2jwe.6303$gm6.2995@trnddc05...
>>
>>>Freon is a *compound*.
>>
>>WRONG! "freon" is a brand.
>
>
> Well, he's obviously got you there... since it's a brand,
> it *can't* be a compound... we all know that. Once
> you brand it, then the molecules behave differently!
> __
> Steve
> .
>
Of course. thermal breakdown ;-)
I got a paper cut from a xerox. I had to put a bandaid on it after
wiping it off with a kleenex.
--
jeff
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Stephen Cowell wrote:
> "Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11c3ud5t58up943@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
>>news:r2jwe.6303$gm6.2995@trnddc05...
>>
>>>Freon is a *compound*.
>>
>>WRONG! "freon" is a brand.
>
>
> Well, he's obviously got you there... since it's a brand,
> it *can't* be a compound... we all know that. Once
> you brand it, then the molecules behave differently!
> __
> Steve
> .
>
Of course. thermal breakdown ;-)
I got a paper cut from a xerox. I had to put a bandaid on it after
wiping it off with a kleenex.
--
jeff
> "Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message news:11c3ud5t58up943@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
>>news:r2jwe.6303$gm6.2995@trnddc05...
>>
>>>Freon is a *compound*.
>>
>>WRONG! "freon" is a brand.
>
>
> Well, he's obviously got you there... since it's a brand,
> it *can't* be a compound... we all know that. Once
> you brand it, then the molecules behave differently!
> __
> Steve
> .
>
Of course. thermal breakdown ;-)
I got a paper cut from a xerox. I had to put a bandaid on it after
wiping it off with a kleenex.
--
jeff
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:Qygwe.1746$Ku6.1305@trnddc04...
>
>>Well, no ---- Sherlock! EXCEPT the conversation was about CFCs which are
>>MOLECULES! Come on Google boy, what is the atomic weight of Freon-12, and
>>what is it's element number?
>
>
> dont be stupid. refrigerant (non brand specific which you should know if
> youre who you insinuate you are) is made up of those same elements. when
> even one of them is heavier than air it will sink below it.
>
There are no puddles of dichlordifluoromethane laying around, as there
are no puddles of argon, CO2, or O2. How come? All are heavier than the
admixture we call "air".
DIFFUSION.
Here is a grade school level page on the subject:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ic/diffus.html
BTW, If you want to know how CFCs get to the stratosphere, look at the
thermal loops in tropical cumulonimbus formations. They can build and
carry hailstones the size of grapefruits.
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:Qygwe.1746$Ku6.1305@trnddc04...
>
>>Well, no ---- Sherlock! EXCEPT the conversation was about CFCs which are
>>MOLECULES! Come on Google boy, what is the atomic weight of Freon-12, and
>>what is it's element number?
>
>
> dont be stupid. refrigerant (non brand specific which you should know if
> youre who you insinuate you are) is made up of those same elements. when
> even one of them is heavier than air it will sink below it.
>
There are no puddles of dichlordifluoromethane laying around, as there
are no puddles of argon, CO2, or O2. How come? All are heavier than the
admixture we call "air".
DIFFUSION.
Here is a grade school level page on the subject:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ic/diffus.html
BTW, If you want to know how CFCs get to the stratosphere, look at the
thermal loops in tropical cumulonimbus formations. They can build and
carry hailstones the size of grapefruits.
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:Qygwe.1746$Ku6.1305@trnddc04...
>
>>Well, no ---- Sherlock! EXCEPT the conversation was about CFCs which are
>>MOLECULES! Come on Google boy, what is the atomic weight of Freon-12, and
>>what is it's element number?
>
>
> dont be stupid. refrigerant (non brand specific which you should know if
> youre who you insinuate you are) is made up of those same elements. when
> even one of them is heavier than air it will sink below it.
>
There are no puddles of dichlordifluoromethane laying around, as there
are no puddles of argon, CO2, or O2. How come? All are heavier than the
admixture we call "air".
DIFFUSION.
Here is a grade school level page on the subject:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ic/diffus.html
BTW, If you want to know how CFCs get to the stratosphere, look at the
thermal loops in tropical cumulonimbus formations. They can build and
carry hailstones the size of grapefruits.
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:Qygwe.1746$Ku6.1305@trnddc04...
>
>>Well, no ---- Sherlock! EXCEPT the conversation was about CFCs which are
>>MOLECULES! Come on Google boy, what is the atomic weight of Freon-12, and
>>what is it's element number?
>
>
> dont be stupid. refrigerant (non brand specific which you should know if
> youre who you insinuate you are) is made up of those same elements. when
> even one of them is heavier than air it will sink below it.
>
There are no puddles of dichlordifluoromethane laying around, as there
are no puddles of argon, CO2, or O2. How come? All are heavier than the
admixture we call "air".
DIFFUSION.
Here is a grade school level page on the subject:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ic/diffus.html
BTW, If you want to know how CFCs get to the stratosphere, look at the
thermal loops in tropical cumulonimbus formations. They can build and
carry hailstones the size of grapefruits.
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:Qygwe.1746$Ku6.1305@trnddc04...
>
>>Well, no ---- Sherlock! EXCEPT the conversation was about CFCs which are
>>MOLECULES! Come on Google boy, what is the atomic weight of Freon-12, and
>>what is it's element number?
>
>
> dont be stupid. refrigerant (non brand specific which you should know if
> youre who you insinuate you are) is made up of those same elements. when
> even one of them is heavier than air it will sink below it.
>
There are no puddles of dichlordifluoromethane laying around, as there
are no puddles of argon, CO2, or O2. How come? All are heavier than the
admixture we call "air".
DIFFUSION.
Here is a grade school level page on the subject:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ic/diffus.html
BTW, If you want to know how CFCs get to the stratosphere, look at the
thermal loops in tropical cumulonimbus formations. They can build and
carry hailstones the size of grapefruits.
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:Qygwe.1746$Ku6.1305@trnddc04...
>
>>Well, no ---- Sherlock! EXCEPT the conversation was about CFCs which are
>>MOLECULES! Come on Google boy, what is the atomic weight of Freon-12, and
>>what is it's element number?
>
>
> dont be stupid. refrigerant (non brand specific which you should know if
> youre who you insinuate you are) is made up of those same elements. when
> even one of them is heavier than air it will sink below it.
>
There are no puddles of dichlordifluoromethane laying around, as there
are no puddles of argon, CO2, or O2. How come? All are heavier than the
admixture we call "air".
DIFFUSION.
Here is a grade school level page on the subject:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ic/diffus.html
BTW, If you want to know how CFCs get to the stratosphere, look at the
thermal loops in tropical cumulonimbus formations. They can build and
carry hailstones the size of grapefruits.
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
Nathan W. Collier wrote:
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:Qygwe.1746$Ku6.1305@trnddc04...
>
>>Well, no ---- Sherlock! EXCEPT the conversation was about CFCs which are
>>MOLECULES! Come on Google boy, what is the atomic weight of Freon-12, and
>>what is it's element number?
>
>
> dont be stupid. refrigerant (non brand specific which you should know if
> youre who you insinuate you are) is made up of those same elements. when
> even one of them is heavier than air it will sink below it.
>
There are no puddles of dichlordifluoromethane laying around, as there
are no puddles of argon, CO2, or O2. How come? All are heavier than the
admixture we call "air".
DIFFUSION.
Here is a grade school level page on the subject:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ic/diffus.html
BTW, If you want to know how CFCs get to the stratosphere, look at the
thermal loops in tropical cumulonimbus formations. They can build and
carry hailstones the size of grapefruits.
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:Qygwe.1746$Ku6.1305@trnddc04...
>
>>Well, no ---- Sherlock! EXCEPT the conversation was about CFCs which are
>>MOLECULES! Come on Google boy, what is the atomic weight of Freon-12, and
>>what is it's element number?
>
>
> dont be stupid. refrigerant (non brand specific which you should know if
> youre who you insinuate you are) is made up of those same elements. when
> even one of them is heavier than air it will sink below it.
>
There are no puddles of dichlordifluoromethane laying around, as there
are no puddles of argon, CO2, or O2. How come? All are heavier than the
admixture we call "air".
DIFFUSION.
Here is a grade school level page on the subject:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...ic/diffus.html
BTW, If you want to know how CFCs get to the stratosphere, look at the
thermal loops in tropical cumulonimbus formations. They can build and
carry hailstones the size of grapefruits.
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:Qygwe.1746$Ku6.1305@trnddc04...
> > Well, no ---- Sherlock! EXCEPT the conversation was about CFCs which are
> > MOLECULES! Come on Google boy, what is the atomic weight of Freon-12,
and
> > what is it's element number?
>
> dont be stupid. refrigerant (non brand specific which you should know if
> youre who you insinuate you are) is made up of those same elements. when
> even one of them is heavier than air it will sink below it.
Just like the argon pool we're drowning in! Help!
__
Steve
..
Well heck, that means I've been wasting all this money on shielding gas for
the MIG welder when I needn't have! There's no pesky lighweight oxygen down
here on the ground to wreck my welds anyway!!!
/Peter
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhrwe.714$U61.475@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:11c3uafer0q9df3@corp.supernews.com...
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:Qygwe.1746$Ku6.1305@trnddc04...
> > Well, no ---- Sherlock! EXCEPT the conversation was about CFCs which are
> > MOLECULES! Come on Google boy, what is the atomic weight of Freon-12,
and
> > what is it's element number?
>
> dont be stupid. refrigerant (non brand specific which you should know if
> youre who you insinuate you are) is made up of those same elements. when
> even one of them is heavier than air it will sink below it.
Just like the argon pool we're drowning in! Help!
__
Steve
..
Well heck, that means I've been wasting all this money on shielding gas for
the MIG welder when I needn't have! There's no pesky lighweight oxygen down
here on the ground to wreck my welds anyway!!!
/Peter
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Re: 134a Refrigerant
"Stephen Cowell" <scowell@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhrwe.714$U61.475@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com. ..
"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
news:11c3uafer0q9df3@corp.supernews.com...
> "jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
> news:Qygwe.1746$Ku6.1305@trnddc04...
> > Well, no ---- Sherlock! EXCEPT the conversation was about CFCs which are
> > MOLECULES! Come on Google boy, what is the atomic weight of Freon-12,
and
> > what is it's element number?
>
> dont be stupid. refrigerant (non brand specific which you should know if
> youre who you insinuate you are) is made up of those same elements. when
> even one of them is heavier than air it will sink below it.
Just like the argon pool we're drowning in! Help!
__
Steve
..
Well heck, that means I've been wasting all this money on shielding gas for
the MIG welder when I needn't have! There's no pesky lighweight oxygen down
here on the ground to wreck my welds anyway!!!
/Peter