134a Refrigerant
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And I gave you the compound Atomic weights they are 6, 9, & 17 Or
Carbon, Fluorine, and Chlorine, if you couldn't figure it out.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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jeff wrote:
>
> Freon is a *compound*. Bill's pointing out the periodic chart of
> *elements* only exposes his ignorance on the subject. Freon is not an
> "element" and you cannot talk about it's atomic weight because it is not
> an atom, it is a molecule. You can talk about it's molecular weight, or
> the atomic weight of it's constituent atoms, and their fraction by
> weight, which is what you have provided.
>
> F
> |
> Cl--C--F
> |
> Cl
>
> --
> jeff
Carbon, Fluorine, and Chlorine, if you couldn't figure it out.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
jeff wrote:
>
> Freon is a *compound*. Bill's pointing out the periodic chart of
> *elements* only exposes his ignorance on the subject. Freon is not an
> "element" and you cannot talk about it's atomic weight because it is not
> an atom, it is a molecule. You can talk about it's molecular weight, or
> the atomic weight of it's constituent atoms, and their fraction by
> weight, which is what you have provided.
>
> F
> |
> Cl--C--F
> |
> Cl
>
> --
> jeff
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So, Rich, it has been some 23 days and several hundred posts. Have you
learned where you can find more R134a? With the information here, you should
be able to make some on your kitchen stove ...
"Rich Hampel" <RhmpL33@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:040620051246550985%RhmpL33@nospam.net...
> OK, perhaps the eco-***** have done us in again.
> In the NE yesterday I tried to get some R134a ..... and NO ONE in
> western NJ, Eastern Penna. or Delaware has any ...... ???????
> I can get it online from Florida .... at about 400% above the 'normal'
> price.
> I know the manufacturer, duPont, has had problems in production and
> legal - as they are appraently having GREAT legal problems with all
> their Fluorine based products. The production problems started last
> year but duPont advised that all would be 'remedied' by December 2004.
>
> Any suggestions; or, should I just bite the bullet and find some
> bootleg R12 and switch back?
learned where you can find more R134a? With the information here, you should
be able to make some on your kitchen stove ...
"Rich Hampel" <RhmpL33@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:040620051246550985%RhmpL33@nospam.net...
> OK, perhaps the eco-***** have done us in again.
> In the NE yesterday I tried to get some R134a ..... and NO ONE in
> western NJ, Eastern Penna. or Delaware has any ...... ???????
> I can get it online from Florida .... at about 400% above the 'normal'
> price.
> I know the manufacturer, duPont, has had problems in production and
> legal - as they are appraently having GREAT legal problems with all
> their Fluorine based products. The production problems started last
> year but duPont advised that all would be 'remedied' by December 2004.
>
> Any suggestions; or, should I just bite the bullet and find some
> bootleg R12 and switch back?
Guest
Posts: n/a
So, Rich, it has been some 23 days and several hundred posts. Have you
learned where you can find more R134a? With the information here, you should
be able to make some on your kitchen stove ...
"Rich Hampel" <RhmpL33@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:040620051246550985%RhmpL33@nospam.net...
> OK, perhaps the eco-***** have done us in again.
> In the NE yesterday I tried to get some R134a ..... and NO ONE in
> western NJ, Eastern Penna. or Delaware has any ...... ???????
> I can get it online from Florida .... at about 400% above the 'normal'
> price.
> I know the manufacturer, duPont, has had problems in production and
> legal - as they are appraently having GREAT legal problems with all
> their Fluorine based products. The production problems started last
> year but duPont advised that all would be 'remedied' by December 2004.
>
> Any suggestions; or, should I just bite the bullet and find some
> bootleg R12 and switch back?
learned where you can find more R134a? With the information here, you should
be able to make some on your kitchen stove ...
"Rich Hampel" <RhmpL33@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:040620051246550985%RhmpL33@nospam.net...
> OK, perhaps the eco-***** have done us in again.
> In the NE yesterday I tried to get some R134a ..... and NO ONE in
> western NJ, Eastern Penna. or Delaware has any ...... ???????
> I can get it online from Florida .... at about 400% above the 'normal'
> price.
> I know the manufacturer, duPont, has had problems in production and
> legal - as they are appraently having GREAT legal problems with all
> their Fluorine based products. The production problems started last
> year but duPont advised that all would be 'remedied' by December 2004.
>
> Any suggestions; or, should I just bite the bullet and find some
> bootleg R12 and switch back?
Guest
Posts: n/a
So, Rich, it has been some 23 days and several hundred posts. Have you
learned where you can find more R134a? With the information here, you should
be able to make some on your kitchen stove ...
"Rich Hampel" <RhmpL33@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:040620051246550985%RhmpL33@nospam.net...
> OK, perhaps the eco-***** have done us in again.
> In the NE yesterday I tried to get some R134a ..... and NO ONE in
> western NJ, Eastern Penna. or Delaware has any ...... ???????
> I can get it online from Florida .... at about 400% above the 'normal'
> price.
> I know the manufacturer, duPont, has had problems in production and
> legal - as they are appraently having GREAT legal problems with all
> their Fluorine based products. The production problems started last
> year but duPont advised that all would be 'remedied' by December 2004.
>
> Any suggestions; or, should I just bite the bullet and find some
> bootleg R12 and switch back?
learned where you can find more R134a? With the information here, you should
be able to make some on your kitchen stove ...
"Rich Hampel" <RhmpL33@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:040620051246550985%RhmpL33@nospam.net...
> OK, perhaps the eco-***** have done us in again.
> In the NE yesterday I tried to get some R134a ..... and NO ONE in
> western NJ, Eastern Penna. or Delaware has any ...... ???????
> I can get it online from Florida .... at about 400% above the 'normal'
> price.
> I know the manufacturer, duPont, has had problems in production and
> legal - as they are appraently having GREAT legal problems with all
> their Fluorine based products. The production problems started last
> year but duPont advised that all would be 'remedied' by December 2004.
>
> Any suggestions; or, should I just bite the bullet and find some
> bootleg R12 and switch back?
Guest
Posts: n/a
So, Rich, it has been some 23 days and several hundred posts. Have you
learned where you can find more R134a? With the information here, you should
be able to make some on your kitchen stove ...
"Rich Hampel" <RhmpL33@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:040620051246550985%RhmpL33@nospam.net...
> OK, perhaps the eco-***** have done us in again.
> In the NE yesterday I tried to get some R134a ..... and NO ONE in
> western NJ, Eastern Penna. or Delaware has any ...... ???????
> I can get it online from Florida .... at about 400% above the 'normal'
> price.
> I know the manufacturer, duPont, has had problems in production and
> legal - as they are appraently having GREAT legal problems with all
> their Fluorine based products. The production problems started last
> year but duPont advised that all would be 'remedied' by December 2004.
>
> Any suggestions; or, should I just bite the bullet and find some
> bootleg R12 and switch back?
learned where you can find more R134a? With the information here, you should
be able to make some on your kitchen stove ...
"Rich Hampel" <RhmpL33@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:040620051246550985%RhmpL33@nospam.net...
> OK, perhaps the eco-***** have done us in again.
> In the NE yesterday I tried to get some R134a ..... and NO ONE in
> western NJ, Eastern Penna. or Delaware has any ...... ???????
> I can get it online from Florida .... at about 400% above the 'normal'
> price.
> I know the manufacturer, duPont, has had problems in production and
> legal - as they are appraently having GREAT legal problems with all
> their Fluorine based products. The production problems started last
> year but duPont advised that all would be 'remedied' by December 2004.
>
> Any suggestions; or, should I just bite the bullet and find some
> bootleg R12 and switch back?
Guest
Posts: n/a
I knew what Bill meant as did everyone else with one exception.
"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
news:r2jwe.6303$gm6.2995@trnddc05...
> Freon is a *compound*. Bill's pointing out the periodic chart of
> *elements* only exposes his ignorance on the subject. Freon is not an
> "element" and you cannot talk about it's atomic weight because it is not
> an atom, it is a molecule. You can talk about it's molecular weight, or
> the atomic weight of it's constituent atoms, and their fraction by weight,
> which is what you have provided.
>
> F
> |
> Cl--C--F
> |
> Cl
>
>
> --
> jeff
>
>
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>> Composition of FREON-12:
>> Density (g/cm3) = 1.12000E+00
>> Mean Excitation Energy (eV) = 143.000000
>>
>> COMPOSITION:
>>
>> Atomic number Fraction by weight
>> 6 0.099335
>> 9 0.314247
>> 17 0.586418
>>
>> Refrigerant R12 (Freon-12-CCl2F2)
>>
>> R-12 is a very popular refrigerant. It is a colorless, almost odorless
>> liquid with a boiling
>> The composition of Freon R-12 is Carbon, Chlorine, and Fluorine
>>
"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
news:r2jwe.6303$gm6.2995@trnddc05...
> Freon is a *compound*. Bill's pointing out the periodic chart of
> *elements* only exposes his ignorance on the subject. Freon is not an
> "element" and you cannot talk about it's atomic weight because it is not
> an atom, it is a molecule. You can talk about it's molecular weight, or
> the atomic weight of it's constituent atoms, and their fraction by weight,
> which is what you have provided.
>
> F
> |
> Cl--C--F
> |
> Cl
>
>
> --
> jeff
>
>
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>> Composition of FREON-12:
>> Density (g/cm3) = 1.12000E+00
>> Mean Excitation Energy (eV) = 143.000000
>>
>> COMPOSITION:
>>
>> Atomic number Fraction by weight
>> 6 0.099335
>> 9 0.314247
>> 17 0.586418
>>
>> Refrigerant R12 (Freon-12-CCl2F2)
>>
>> R-12 is a very popular refrigerant. It is a colorless, almost odorless
>> liquid with a boiling
>> The composition of Freon R-12 is Carbon, Chlorine, and Fluorine
>>
Guest
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I knew what Bill meant as did everyone else with one exception.
"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
news:r2jwe.6303$gm6.2995@trnddc05...
> Freon is a *compound*. Bill's pointing out the periodic chart of
> *elements* only exposes his ignorance on the subject. Freon is not an
> "element" and you cannot talk about it's atomic weight because it is not
> an atom, it is a molecule. You can talk about it's molecular weight, or
> the atomic weight of it's constituent atoms, and their fraction by weight,
> which is what you have provided.
>
> F
> |
> Cl--C--F
> |
> Cl
>
>
> --
> jeff
>
>
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>> Composition of FREON-12:
>> Density (g/cm3) = 1.12000E+00
>> Mean Excitation Energy (eV) = 143.000000
>>
>> COMPOSITION:
>>
>> Atomic number Fraction by weight
>> 6 0.099335
>> 9 0.314247
>> 17 0.586418
>>
>> Refrigerant R12 (Freon-12-CCl2F2)
>>
>> R-12 is a very popular refrigerant. It is a colorless, almost odorless
>> liquid with a boiling
>> The composition of Freon R-12 is Carbon, Chlorine, and Fluorine
>>
"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
news:r2jwe.6303$gm6.2995@trnddc05...
> Freon is a *compound*. Bill's pointing out the periodic chart of
> *elements* only exposes his ignorance on the subject. Freon is not an
> "element" and you cannot talk about it's atomic weight because it is not
> an atom, it is a molecule. You can talk about it's molecular weight, or
> the atomic weight of it's constituent atoms, and their fraction by weight,
> which is what you have provided.
>
> F
> |
> Cl--C--F
> |
> Cl
>
>
> --
> jeff
>
>
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>> Composition of FREON-12:
>> Density (g/cm3) = 1.12000E+00
>> Mean Excitation Energy (eV) = 143.000000
>>
>> COMPOSITION:
>>
>> Atomic number Fraction by weight
>> 6 0.099335
>> 9 0.314247
>> 17 0.586418
>>
>> Refrigerant R12 (Freon-12-CCl2F2)
>>
>> R-12 is a very popular refrigerant. It is a colorless, almost odorless
>> liquid with a boiling
>> The composition of Freon R-12 is Carbon, Chlorine, and Fluorine
>>
Guest
Posts: n/a
I knew what Bill meant as did everyone else with one exception.
"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
news:r2jwe.6303$gm6.2995@trnddc05...
> Freon is a *compound*. Bill's pointing out the periodic chart of
> *elements* only exposes his ignorance on the subject. Freon is not an
> "element" and you cannot talk about it's atomic weight because it is not
> an atom, it is a molecule. You can talk about it's molecular weight, or
> the atomic weight of it's constituent atoms, and their fraction by weight,
> which is what you have provided.
>
> F
> |
> Cl--C--F
> |
> Cl
>
>
> --
> jeff
>
>
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>> Composition of FREON-12:
>> Density (g/cm3) = 1.12000E+00
>> Mean Excitation Energy (eV) = 143.000000
>>
>> COMPOSITION:
>>
>> Atomic number Fraction by weight
>> 6 0.099335
>> 9 0.314247
>> 17 0.586418
>>
>> Refrigerant R12 (Freon-12-CCl2F2)
>>
>> R-12 is a very popular refrigerant. It is a colorless, almost odorless
>> liquid with a boiling
>> The composition of Freon R-12 is Carbon, Chlorine, and Fluorine
>>
"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
news:r2jwe.6303$gm6.2995@trnddc05...
> Freon is a *compound*. Bill's pointing out the periodic chart of
> *elements* only exposes his ignorance on the subject. Freon is not an
> "element" and you cannot talk about it's atomic weight because it is not
> an atom, it is a molecule. You can talk about it's molecular weight, or
> the atomic weight of it's constituent atoms, and their fraction by weight,
> which is what you have provided.
>
> F
> |
> Cl--C--F
> |
> Cl
>
>
> --
> jeff
>
>
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>> Composition of FREON-12:
>> Density (g/cm3) = 1.12000E+00
>> Mean Excitation Energy (eV) = 143.000000
>>
>> COMPOSITION:
>>
>> Atomic number Fraction by weight
>> 6 0.099335
>> 9 0.314247
>> 17 0.586418
>>
>> Refrigerant R12 (Freon-12-CCl2F2)
>>
>> R-12 is a very popular refrigerant. It is a colorless, almost odorless
>> liquid with a boiling
>> The composition of Freon R-12 is Carbon, Chlorine, and Fluorine
>>
Guest
Posts: n/a
I knew what Bill meant as did everyone else with one exception.
"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
news:r2jwe.6303$gm6.2995@trnddc05...
> Freon is a *compound*. Bill's pointing out the periodic chart of
> *elements* only exposes his ignorance on the subject. Freon is not an
> "element" and you cannot talk about it's atomic weight because it is not
> an atom, it is a molecule. You can talk about it's molecular weight, or
> the atomic weight of it's constituent atoms, and their fraction by weight,
> which is what you have provided.
>
> F
> |
> Cl--C--F
> |
> Cl
>
>
> --
> jeff
>
>
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>> Composition of FREON-12:
>> Density (g/cm3) = 1.12000E+00
>> Mean Excitation Energy (eV) = 143.000000
>>
>> COMPOSITION:
>>
>> Atomic number Fraction by weight
>> 6 0.099335
>> 9 0.314247
>> 17 0.586418
>>
>> Refrigerant R12 (Freon-12-CCl2F2)
>>
>> R-12 is a very popular refrigerant. It is a colorless, almost odorless
>> liquid with a boiling
>> The composition of Freon R-12 is Carbon, Chlorine, and Fluorine
>>
"jeff" <jalowe44INVALID@hotmail.com.INVALID> wrote in message
news:r2jwe.6303$gm6.2995@trnddc05...
> Freon is a *compound*. Bill's pointing out the periodic chart of
> *elements* only exposes his ignorance on the subject. Freon is not an
> "element" and you cannot talk about it's atomic weight because it is not
> an atom, it is a molecule. You can talk about it's molecular weight, or
> the atomic weight of it's constituent atoms, and their fraction by weight,
> which is what you have provided.
>
> F
> |
> Cl--C--F
> |
> Cl
>
>
> --
> jeff
>
>
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>> Composition of FREON-12:
>> Density (g/cm3) = 1.12000E+00
>> Mean Excitation Energy (eV) = 143.000000
>>
>> COMPOSITION:
>>
>> Atomic number Fraction by weight
>> 6 0.099335
>> 9 0.314247
>> 17 0.586418
>>
>> Refrigerant R12 (Freon-12-CCl2F2)
>>
>> R-12 is a very popular refrigerant. It is a colorless, almost odorless
>> liquid with a boiling
>> The composition of Freon R-12 is Carbon, Chlorine, and Fluorine
>>
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"Nathan W. Collier" <MontanaJeeper@aol.com> wrote in message
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> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42C0CD0D.5F72B4F1@***.net...
> > Earle, once showed us his W-2 for over three quarters
> > of a million dollars, I don't think he worries about your
> > opinion of him.
>
> lol how true. wasnt it 2 million?
>
Yeah. Bill was thinking of Uncle Sam's cut. :o(
Earle
news:11c2k0kcvtsamb9@corp.supernews.com...
> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:42C0CD0D.5F72B4F1@***.net...
> > Earle, once showed us his W-2 for over three quarters
> > of a million dollars, I don't think he worries about your
> > opinion of him.
>
> lol how true. wasnt it 2 million?
>
Yeah. Bill was thinking of Uncle Sam's cut. :o(
Earle


