07 vs. 06 Wrangler torque curves?
#121
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Re: 07 vs. 06 Wrangler torque curves?
I absolutely can't believe I voted for him the first time
around!!!!!!!!!!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> In 1968 Bill Clinton was classified as 1-A on March 20. He was ordered to
> report for induction on July 28, 1969. He didn't show. He then was
> re-classified as 1-D after enlisting in the Army Reserves on August 7, 1969
> and takes the oath of enlistment. He failed to report to his duty station at
> the University of Arkansas ROTC in September 1969. He was in England. On
> October 15, 1969 he organized and led an Anti-War demonstration in London.
> to England - where an induction notice was mailed to him. After that, the
> record gets murky. On October 30, 1969 Bill Clinton was reclassified by his
> Draft Board as 1-A. On November 15, 1969 Bill Clinton organized and led
> another anti-war demonstration in London.
>
> On December 3, 1969 Bill Clinton wrote to Lt. Colonel Holmes, who headed the
> University of Arkansas ROTC at the time, to explain why he had not shown up
> as ordered by had gone to England instate. That letter, which was placed in
> the Congressional Record on July 30, 1993 by Rep. Dornan of California,
> states in Clinton's own words: "When the draft came, despite political
> convictions, I was having a hard time facing the prospect of fighting a war
> I had been fighting against."
>
> He applied for the 'legal' deferral with fraudulent intent as evidenced by
> his own letter to his ROTC commander.
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...aftletter.html
>
> Lt. Bush requested and received a transfer from the Texas Air National Guard
> to the 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Group in Alabama so he could work, off
> duty, on the Senate campaign of 'Red" Blount.
>
> Despite the lies and forgeries disseminated by the Demoncrats and their
> liberal commie media lackeys no evidence of his being AWOL have been
> demonstrated, and testimony of fellow unit members, supported by medical and
> dental examination records as well as pay records have been ignored. But
> them I assume you will attribute this all to some vast Right-Wing Conspiracy
> that the only evidence is that he was not AWOL.
>
> On the other hand it is well documented in public records and the letter
> written by mr clinton himself, referenced above, clearly demonstrates his
> character and general lack of honor.
>
> I can only surmise that mr clinton assumed that his confessional letter
> would have been lost over the years.
>
> Perhaps it is best to allow an old friend of mr clinton to describe his
> character.Cliff Jackson,an Arkansas attorney was a friend and classmate of
> bill clinton at Oxford in the late 1960s.Although he professes no personal
> rancor toward mr clinton, Jackson is a vocal critic of what he describes as
> mr. clinton's "casual willingness to deceive, to exploit, and to manipulate
> in order to attain personal and political power."
around!!!!!!!!!!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
billy ray wrote:
>
> In 1968 Bill Clinton was classified as 1-A on March 20. He was ordered to
> report for induction on July 28, 1969. He didn't show. He then was
> re-classified as 1-D after enlisting in the Army Reserves on August 7, 1969
> and takes the oath of enlistment. He failed to report to his duty station at
> the University of Arkansas ROTC in September 1969. He was in England. On
> October 15, 1969 he organized and led an Anti-War demonstration in London.
> to England - where an induction notice was mailed to him. After that, the
> record gets murky. On October 30, 1969 Bill Clinton was reclassified by his
> Draft Board as 1-A. On November 15, 1969 Bill Clinton organized and led
> another anti-war demonstration in London.
>
> On December 3, 1969 Bill Clinton wrote to Lt. Colonel Holmes, who headed the
> University of Arkansas ROTC at the time, to explain why he had not shown up
> as ordered by had gone to England instate. That letter, which was placed in
> the Congressional Record on July 30, 1993 by Rep. Dornan of California,
> states in Clinton's own words: "When the draft came, despite political
> convictions, I was having a hard time facing the prospect of fighting a war
> I had been fighting against."
>
> He applied for the 'legal' deferral with fraudulent intent as evidenced by
> his own letter to his ROTC commander.
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...aftletter.html
>
> Lt. Bush requested and received a transfer from the Texas Air National Guard
> to the 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Group in Alabama so he could work, off
> duty, on the Senate campaign of 'Red" Blount.
>
> Despite the lies and forgeries disseminated by the Demoncrats and their
> liberal commie media lackeys no evidence of his being AWOL have been
> demonstrated, and testimony of fellow unit members, supported by medical and
> dental examination records as well as pay records have been ignored. But
> them I assume you will attribute this all to some vast Right-Wing Conspiracy
> that the only evidence is that he was not AWOL.
>
> On the other hand it is well documented in public records and the letter
> written by mr clinton himself, referenced above, clearly demonstrates his
> character and general lack of honor.
>
> I can only surmise that mr clinton assumed that his confessional letter
> would have been lost over the years.
>
> Perhaps it is best to allow an old friend of mr clinton to describe his
> character.Cliff Jackson,an Arkansas attorney was a friend and classmate of
> bill clinton at Oxford in the late 1960s.Although he professes no personal
> rancor toward mr clinton, Jackson is a vocal critic of what he describes as
> mr. clinton's "casual willingness to deceive, to exploit, and to manipulate
> in order to attain personal and political power."
#122
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Posts: n/a
Re: 07 vs. 06 Wrangler torque curves?
"just let loose a phony letter"? Hahaha. Nice. You know, Dahmer just
snacked on a couple of chaps.
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
Lon wrote:
> As far as I know the democrats had nothing to do with Bush not showing
> up for a physical and duty as a member of the air national guard. The
> official story is excused to work on a political campaign for someone
> not in the state of texas... The democrats just let loose a phony
> letter concerning the incident.
>
>
> billy ray proclaimed:
>
>> As far as I know the Democrats have never supplied any data to support
>> the
>> AWOL allegations other than the stuff they knew was forged before they
>> aired
>> it.
>>
>>
>> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:_cidnf3jPM7xrtzZnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>
>>> Earle Horton proclaimed:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:VJGdncbMC8TSiaLZnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>> ---snippy---
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Lets see, should I buy a nice made in america honda, or buy a german
>>>>> jeep with a mexican engine?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My Honda is 100% Canadian made. ;^)
>>>>
>>>> Earle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> ? What plant? Haven't really paid much attention other than to
>>> Marysville.
>>>
>>> America, where any AWOL alchoholic cocaine addict can grow up to be
>>> president.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
snacked on a couple of chaps.
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
Lon wrote:
> As far as I know the democrats had nothing to do with Bush not showing
> up for a physical and duty as a member of the air national guard. The
> official story is excused to work on a political campaign for someone
> not in the state of texas... The democrats just let loose a phony
> letter concerning the incident.
>
>
> billy ray proclaimed:
>
>> As far as I know the Democrats have never supplied any data to support
>> the
>> AWOL allegations other than the stuff they knew was forged before they
>> aired
>> it.
>>
>>
>> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:_cidnf3jPM7xrtzZnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>
>>> Earle Horton proclaimed:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:VJGdncbMC8TSiaLZnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>> ---snippy---
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Lets see, should I buy a nice made in america honda, or buy a german
>>>>> jeep with a mexican engine?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My Honda is 100% Canadian made. ;^)
>>>>
>>>> Earle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> ? What plant? Haven't really paid much attention other than to
>>> Marysville.
>>>
>>> America, where any AWOL alchoholic cocaine addict can grow up to be
>>> president.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
#123
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 07 vs. 06 Wrangler torque curves?
"just let loose a phony letter"? Hahaha. Nice. You know, Dahmer just
snacked on a couple of chaps.
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
Lon wrote:
> As far as I know the democrats had nothing to do with Bush not showing
> up for a physical and duty as a member of the air national guard. The
> official story is excused to work on a political campaign for someone
> not in the state of texas... The democrats just let loose a phony
> letter concerning the incident.
>
>
> billy ray proclaimed:
>
>> As far as I know the Democrats have never supplied any data to support
>> the
>> AWOL allegations other than the stuff they knew was forged before they
>> aired
>> it.
>>
>>
>> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:_cidnf3jPM7xrtzZnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>
>>> Earle Horton proclaimed:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:VJGdncbMC8TSiaLZnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>> ---snippy---
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Lets see, should I buy a nice made in america honda, or buy a german
>>>>> jeep with a mexican engine?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My Honda is 100% Canadian made. ;^)
>>>>
>>>> Earle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> ? What plant? Haven't really paid much attention other than to
>>> Marysville.
>>>
>>> America, where any AWOL alchoholic cocaine addict can grow up to be
>>> president.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
snacked on a couple of chaps.
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
Lon wrote:
> As far as I know the democrats had nothing to do with Bush not showing
> up for a physical and duty as a member of the air national guard. The
> official story is excused to work on a political campaign for someone
> not in the state of texas... The democrats just let loose a phony
> letter concerning the incident.
>
>
> billy ray proclaimed:
>
>> As far as I know the Democrats have never supplied any data to support
>> the
>> AWOL allegations other than the stuff they knew was forged before they
>> aired
>> it.
>>
>>
>> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:_cidnf3jPM7xrtzZnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>
>>> Earle Horton proclaimed:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:VJGdncbMC8TSiaLZnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>> ---snippy---
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Lets see, should I buy a nice made in america honda, or buy a german
>>>>> jeep with a mexican engine?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My Honda is 100% Canadian made. ;^)
>>>>
>>>> Earle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> ? What plant? Haven't really paid much attention other than to
>>> Marysville.
>>>
>>> America, where any AWOL alchoholic cocaine addict can grow up to be
>>> president.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
#124
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 07 vs. 06 Wrangler torque curves?
"just let loose a phony letter"? Hahaha. Nice. You know, Dahmer just
snacked on a couple of chaps.
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
Lon wrote:
> As far as I know the democrats had nothing to do with Bush not showing
> up for a physical and duty as a member of the air national guard. The
> official story is excused to work on a political campaign for someone
> not in the state of texas... The democrats just let loose a phony
> letter concerning the incident.
>
>
> billy ray proclaimed:
>
>> As far as I know the Democrats have never supplied any data to support
>> the
>> AWOL allegations other than the stuff they knew was forged before they
>> aired
>> it.
>>
>>
>> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:_cidnf3jPM7xrtzZnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>
>>> Earle Horton proclaimed:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:VJGdncbMC8TSiaLZnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>> ---snippy---
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Lets see, should I buy a nice made in america honda, or buy a german
>>>>> jeep with a mexican engine?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My Honda is 100% Canadian made. ;^)
>>>>
>>>> Earle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> ? What plant? Haven't really paid much attention other than to
>>> Marysville.
>>>
>>> America, where any AWOL alchoholic cocaine addict can grow up to be
>>> president.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
snacked on a couple of chaps.
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
Lon wrote:
> As far as I know the democrats had nothing to do with Bush not showing
> up for a physical and duty as a member of the air national guard. The
> official story is excused to work on a political campaign for someone
> not in the state of texas... The democrats just let loose a phony
> letter concerning the incident.
>
>
> billy ray proclaimed:
>
>> As far as I know the Democrats have never supplied any data to support
>> the
>> AWOL allegations other than the stuff they knew was forged before they
>> aired
>> it.
>>
>>
>> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:_cidnf3jPM7xrtzZnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>
>>> Earle Horton proclaimed:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:VJGdncbMC8TSiaLZnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>>> ---snippy---
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Lets see, should I buy a nice made in america honda, or buy a german
>>>>> jeep with a mexican engine?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My Honda is 100% Canadian made. ;^)
>>>>
>>>> Earle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> ? What plant? Haven't really paid much attention other than to
>>> Marysville.
>>>
>>> America, where any AWOL alchoholic cocaine addict can grow up to be
>>> president.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
#125
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 07 vs. 06 Wrangler torque curves?
You should rely on the facts more than biased conjecture from the media
and your constituents. You are clearly the child of a media based
education. Why do I think you are Canadian? Are you even a US citizen?
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
Lon wrote:
> Actually Clinton got a perfectly legal deferral and was not a sworn
> member of the armed services at any point to have any commitment to run
> away from. Not exactly what I would call up and up, but not that
> uncommon for someone with a scholarship to a prestigious educational
> institution. As for protesting against the US, your history is as
> flawed as your other facts... there is and was a clear difference
> between protesting against a war and protesting against the US itself.
> e.g. Jane Fonda as compared to a few presidential candidates of the time.
>
> Unlike the other guy who did swear an oath as a member of the armed
> services and then used political connections to avoid actually serving
> more than nominal part time duty. With pretty strong rumors amongst
> military folks that part of this was to avoid the consequences of a
> urine test. Can't confirm the rumors...nor frankly care.
>
> billy ray proclaimed:
>
>> Clinton wasn't an 'ex-military" guy. He was a coward who applied for
>> ROTC
>> and then ran away from his commitment and while overseas protested
>> against
>> the US.
>>
>> He is, in my opinion, even worse than the dope smoking hippie cowards who
>> ran away to Canada.
>>
>> But that is just my opinion....
>>
>> "twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
>> news:Kzc0g.69974$dW3.58489@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
>>
>>> Right, let's go back to the big time 'ex-military' guys who don't
>>> inhale. It was MUCH better back then. Cigar anyone? WAFJ.
>>>
>>> tw
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>
>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>
>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>
>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>
>>> Lon wrote:
>>>
>>>> Haven't really paid much attention other than to Marysville.
>>>>
>>>> America, where any AWOL alchoholic cocaine addict can grow up to be
>>>> president.
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
and your constituents. You are clearly the child of a media based
education. Why do I think you are Canadian? Are you even a US citizen?
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
Lon wrote:
> Actually Clinton got a perfectly legal deferral and was not a sworn
> member of the armed services at any point to have any commitment to run
> away from. Not exactly what I would call up and up, but not that
> uncommon for someone with a scholarship to a prestigious educational
> institution. As for protesting against the US, your history is as
> flawed as your other facts... there is and was a clear difference
> between protesting against a war and protesting against the US itself.
> e.g. Jane Fonda as compared to a few presidential candidates of the time.
>
> Unlike the other guy who did swear an oath as a member of the armed
> services and then used political connections to avoid actually serving
> more than nominal part time duty. With pretty strong rumors amongst
> military folks that part of this was to avoid the consequences of a
> urine test. Can't confirm the rumors...nor frankly care.
>
> billy ray proclaimed:
>
>> Clinton wasn't an 'ex-military" guy. He was a coward who applied for
>> ROTC
>> and then ran away from his commitment and while overseas protested
>> against
>> the US.
>>
>> He is, in my opinion, even worse than the dope smoking hippie cowards who
>> ran away to Canada.
>>
>> But that is just my opinion....
>>
>> "twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
>> news:Kzc0g.69974$dW3.58489@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
>>
>>> Right, let's go back to the big time 'ex-military' guys who don't
>>> inhale. It was MUCH better back then. Cigar anyone? WAFJ.
>>>
>>> tw
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>
>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>
>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>
>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>
>>> Lon wrote:
>>>
>>>> Haven't really paid much attention other than to Marysville.
>>>>
>>>> America, where any AWOL alchoholic cocaine addict can grow up to be
>>>> president.
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
#126
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 07 vs. 06 Wrangler torque curves?
You should rely on the facts more than biased conjecture from the media
and your constituents. You are clearly the child of a media based
education. Why do I think you are Canadian? Are you even a US citizen?
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
Lon wrote:
> Actually Clinton got a perfectly legal deferral and was not a sworn
> member of the armed services at any point to have any commitment to run
> away from. Not exactly what I would call up and up, but not that
> uncommon for someone with a scholarship to a prestigious educational
> institution. As for protesting against the US, your history is as
> flawed as your other facts... there is and was a clear difference
> between protesting against a war and protesting against the US itself.
> e.g. Jane Fonda as compared to a few presidential candidates of the time.
>
> Unlike the other guy who did swear an oath as a member of the armed
> services and then used political connections to avoid actually serving
> more than nominal part time duty. With pretty strong rumors amongst
> military folks that part of this was to avoid the consequences of a
> urine test. Can't confirm the rumors...nor frankly care.
>
> billy ray proclaimed:
>
>> Clinton wasn't an 'ex-military" guy. He was a coward who applied for
>> ROTC
>> and then ran away from his commitment and while overseas protested
>> against
>> the US.
>>
>> He is, in my opinion, even worse than the dope smoking hippie cowards who
>> ran away to Canada.
>>
>> But that is just my opinion....
>>
>> "twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
>> news:Kzc0g.69974$dW3.58489@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
>>
>>> Right, let's go back to the big time 'ex-military' guys who don't
>>> inhale. It was MUCH better back then. Cigar anyone? WAFJ.
>>>
>>> tw
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>
>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>
>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>
>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>
>>> Lon wrote:
>>>
>>>> Haven't really paid much attention other than to Marysville.
>>>>
>>>> America, where any AWOL alchoholic cocaine addict can grow up to be
>>>> president.
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
and your constituents. You are clearly the child of a media based
education. Why do I think you are Canadian? Are you even a US citizen?
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
Lon wrote:
> Actually Clinton got a perfectly legal deferral and was not a sworn
> member of the armed services at any point to have any commitment to run
> away from. Not exactly what I would call up and up, but not that
> uncommon for someone with a scholarship to a prestigious educational
> institution. As for protesting against the US, your history is as
> flawed as your other facts... there is and was a clear difference
> between protesting against a war and protesting against the US itself.
> e.g. Jane Fonda as compared to a few presidential candidates of the time.
>
> Unlike the other guy who did swear an oath as a member of the armed
> services and then used political connections to avoid actually serving
> more than nominal part time duty. With pretty strong rumors amongst
> military folks that part of this was to avoid the consequences of a
> urine test. Can't confirm the rumors...nor frankly care.
>
> billy ray proclaimed:
>
>> Clinton wasn't an 'ex-military" guy. He was a coward who applied for
>> ROTC
>> and then ran away from his commitment and while overseas protested
>> against
>> the US.
>>
>> He is, in my opinion, even worse than the dope smoking hippie cowards who
>> ran away to Canada.
>>
>> But that is just my opinion....
>>
>> "twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
>> news:Kzc0g.69974$dW3.58489@newssvr21.news.prodigy. com...
>>
>>> Right, let's go back to the big time 'ex-military' guys who don't
>>> inhale. It was MUCH better back then. Cigar anyone? WAFJ.
>>>
>>> tw
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>
>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>
>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>
>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>
>>> Lon wrote:
>>>
>>>> Haven't really paid much attention other than to Marysville.
>>>>
>>>> America, where any AWOL alchoholic cocaine addict can grow up to be
>>>> president.
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
#127
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 07 vs. 06 Wrangler torque curves?
Wow, looks like the democrats arent the only ones who can make ---- up
to feed their fantasies.
billy ray proclaimed:
> In 1968 Bill Clinton was classified as 1-A on March 20. He was ordered to
> report for induction on July 28, 1969. He didn't show. He then was
> re-classified as 1-D after enlisting in the Army Reserves on August 7, 1969
> and takes the oath of enlistment. He failed to report to his duty station at
> the University of Arkansas ROTC in September 1969. He was in England. On
> October 15, 1969 he organized and led an Anti-War demonstration in London.
> to England - where an induction notice was mailed to him. After that, the
> record gets murky. On October 30, 1969 Bill Clinton was reclassified by his
> Draft Board as 1-A. On November 15, 1969 Bill Clinton organized and led
> another anti-war demonstration in London.
>
> On December 3, 1969 Bill Clinton wrote to Lt. Colonel Holmes, who headed the
> University of Arkansas ROTC at the time, to explain why he had not shown up
> as ordered by had gone to England instate. That letter, which was placed in
> the Congressional Record on July 30, 1993 by Rep. Dornan of California,
> states in Clinton's own words: "When the draft came, despite political
> convictions, I was having a hard time facing the prospect of fighting a war
> I had been fighting against."
>
> He applied for the 'legal' deferral with fraudulent intent as evidenced by
> his own letter to his ROTC commander.
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...aftletter.html
>
> Lt. Bush requested and received a transfer from the Texas Air National Guard
> to the 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Group in Alabama so he could work, off
> duty, on the Senate campaign of 'Red" Blount.
>
> Despite the lies and forgeries disseminated by the Demoncrats and their
> liberal commie media lackeys no evidence of his being AWOL have been
> demonstrated, and testimony of fellow unit members, supported by medical and
> dental examination records as well as pay records have been ignored. But
> them I assume you will attribute this all to some vast Right-Wing Conspiracy
> that the only evidence is that he was not AWOL.
>
> On the other hand it is well documented in public records and the letter
> written by mr clinton himself, referenced above, clearly demonstrates his
> character and general lack of honor.
>
> I can only surmise that mr clinton assumed that his confessional letter
> would have been lost over the years.
>
> Perhaps it is best to allow an old friend of mr clinton to describe his
> character.Cliff Jackson,an Arkansas attorney was a friend and classmate of
> bill clinton at Oxford in the late 1960s.Although he professes no personal
> rancor toward mr clinton, Jackson is a vocal critic of what he describes as
> mr. clinton's "casual willingness to deceive, to exploit, and to manipulate
> in order to attain personal and political power."
>
>
>
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:vKmdnRw7WuEFE9zZRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
>
>>Actually Clinton got a perfectly legal deferral and was not a sworn
>>member of the armed services at any point to have any commitment to run
>>away from. Not exactly what I would call up and up, but not that
>>uncommon for someone with a scholarship to a prestigious educational
>>institution. As for protesting against the US, your history is as
>>flawed as your other facts... there is and was a clear difference
>>between protesting against a war and protesting against the US itself.
>>e.g. Jane Fonda as compared to a few presidential candidates of the time.
>>
>>Unlike the other guy who did swear an oath as a member of the armed
>>services and then used political connections to avoid actually serving
>>more than nominal part time duty. With pretty strong rumors amongst
>>military folks that part of this was to avoid the consequences of a
>>urine test. Can't confirm the rumors...nor frankly care.
>>
>>billy ray proclaimed:
>>
>>
>>>Clinton wasn't an 'ex-military" guy. He was a coward who applied for
>
> ROTC
>
>>>and then ran away from his commitment and while overseas protested
>
> against
>
>>>the US.
>>>
>>>He is, in my opinion, even worse than the dope smoking hippie cowards
>
> who
>
>>>ran away to Canada.
>>>
>>>But that is just my opinion....
>>>
>>>"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>news:Kzc0g.69974$dW3.58489@newssvr21.news.prodi gy.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Right, let's go back to the big time 'ex-military' guys who don't
>>>>inhale. It was MUCH better back then. Cigar anyone? WAFJ.
>>>>
>>>>tw
>>>>______________________________________________ _______________________
>>>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>>
>>>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>>
>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>>
>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>>______________________________________________ _______________________
>>>>
>>>>Lon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Haven't really paid much attention other than to Marysville.
>>>>>
>>>>>America, where any AWOL alchoholic cocaine addict can grow up to be
>>>>>president.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
to feed their fantasies.
billy ray proclaimed:
> In 1968 Bill Clinton was classified as 1-A on March 20. He was ordered to
> report for induction on July 28, 1969. He didn't show. He then was
> re-classified as 1-D after enlisting in the Army Reserves on August 7, 1969
> and takes the oath of enlistment. He failed to report to his duty station at
> the University of Arkansas ROTC in September 1969. He was in England. On
> October 15, 1969 he organized and led an Anti-War demonstration in London.
> to England - where an induction notice was mailed to him. After that, the
> record gets murky. On October 30, 1969 Bill Clinton was reclassified by his
> Draft Board as 1-A. On November 15, 1969 Bill Clinton organized and led
> another anti-war demonstration in London.
>
> On December 3, 1969 Bill Clinton wrote to Lt. Colonel Holmes, who headed the
> University of Arkansas ROTC at the time, to explain why he had not shown up
> as ordered by had gone to England instate. That letter, which was placed in
> the Congressional Record on July 30, 1993 by Rep. Dornan of California,
> states in Clinton's own words: "When the draft came, despite political
> convictions, I was having a hard time facing the prospect of fighting a war
> I had been fighting against."
>
> He applied for the 'legal' deferral with fraudulent intent as evidenced by
> his own letter to his ROTC commander.
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...aftletter.html
>
> Lt. Bush requested and received a transfer from the Texas Air National Guard
> to the 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Group in Alabama so he could work, off
> duty, on the Senate campaign of 'Red" Blount.
>
> Despite the lies and forgeries disseminated by the Demoncrats and their
> liberal commie media lackeys no evidence of his being AWOL have been
> demonstrated, and testimony of fellow unit members, supported by medical and
> dental examination records as well as pay records have been ignored. But
> them I assume you will attribute this all to some vast Right-Wing Conspiracy
> that the only evidence is that he was not AWOL.
>
> On the other hand it is well documented in public records and the letter
> written by mr clinton himself, referenced above, clearly demonstrates his
> character and general lack of honor.
>
> I can only surmise that mr clinton assumed that his confessional letter
> would have been lost over the years.
>
> Perhaps it is best to allow an old friend of mr clinton to describe his
> character.Cliff Jackson,an Arkansas attorney was a friend and classmate of
> bill clinton at Oxford in the late 1960s.Although he professes no personal
> rancor toward mr clinton, Jackson is a vocal critic of what he describes as
> mr. clinton's "casual willingness to deceive, to exploit, and to manipulate
> in order to attain personal and political power."
>
>
>
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:vKmdnRw7WuEFE9zZRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
>
>>Actually Clinton got a perfectly legal deferral and was not a sworn
>>member of the armed services at any point to have any commitment to run
>>away from. Not exactly what I would call up and up, but not that
>>uncommon for someone with a scholarship to a prestigious educational
>>institution. As for protesting against the US, your history is as
>>flawed as your other facts... there is and was a clear difference
>>between protesting against a war and protesting against the US itself.
>>e.g. Jane Fonda as compared to a few presidential candidates of the time.
>>
>>Unlike the other guy who did swear an oath as a member of the armed
>>services and then used political connections to avoid actually serving
>>more than nominal part time duty. With pretty strong rumors amongst
>>military folks that part of this was to avoid the consequences of a
>>urine test. Can't confirm the rumors...nor frankly care.
>>
>>billy ray proclaimed:
>>
>>
>>>Clinton wasn't an 'ex-military" guy. He was a coward who applied for
>
> ROTC
>
>>>and then ran away from his commitment and while overseas protested
>
> against
>
>>>the US.
>>>
>>>He is, in my opinion, even worse than the dope smoking hippie cowards
>
> who
>
>>>ran away to Canada.
>>>
>>>But that is just my opinion....
>>>
>>>"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>news:Kzc0g.69974$dW3.58489@newssvr21.news.prodi gy.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Right, let's go back to the big time 'ex-military' guys who don't
>>>>inhale. It was MUCH better back then. Cigar anyone? WAFJ.
>>>>
>>>>tw
>>>>______________________________________________ _______________________
>>>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>>
>>>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>>
>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>>
>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>>______________________________________________ _______________________
>>>>
>>>>Lon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Haven't really paid much attention other than to Marysville.
>>>>>
>>>>>America, where any AWOL alchoholic cocaine addict can grow up to be
>>>>>president.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
#128
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 07 vs. 06 Wrangler torque curves?
Wow, looks like the democrats arent the only ones who can make ---- up
to feed their fantasies.
billy ray proclaimed:
> In 1968 Bill Clinton was classified as 1-A on March 20. He was ordered to
> report for induction on July 28, 1969. He didn't show. He then was
> re-classified as 1-D after enlisting in the Army Reserves on August 7, 1969
> and takes the oath of enlistment. He failed to report to his duty station at
> the University of Arkansas ROTC in September 1969. He was in England. On
> October 15, 1969 he organized and led an Anti-War demonstration in London.
> to England - where an induction notice was mailed to him. After that, the
> record gets murky. On October 30, 1969 Bill Clinton was reclassified by his
> Draft Board as 1-A. On November 15, 1969 Bill Clinton organized and led
> another anti-war demonstration in London.
>
> On December 3, 1969 Bill Clinton wrote to Lt. Colonel Holmes, who headed the
> University of Arkansas ROTC at the time, to explain why he had not shown up
> as ordered by had gone to England instate. That letter, which was placed in
> the Congressional Record on July 30, 1993 by Rep. Dornan of California,
> states in Clinton's own words: "When the draft came, despite political
> convictions, I was having a hard time facing the prospect of fighting a war
> I had been fighting against."
>
> He applied for the 'legal' deferral with fraudulent intent as evidenced by
> his own letter to his ROTC commander.
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...aftletter.html
>
> Lt. Bush requested and received a transfer from the Texas Air National Guard
> to the 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Group in Alabama so he could work, off
> duty, on the Senate campaign of 'Red" Blount.
>
> Despite the lies and forgeries disseminated by the Demoncrats and their
> liberal commie media lackeys no evidence of his being AWOL have been
> demonstrated, and testimony of fellow unit members, supported by medical and
> dental examination records as well as pay records have been ignored. But
> them I assume you will attribute this all to some vast Right-Wing Conspiracy
> that the only evidence is that he was not AWOL.
>
> On the other hand it is well documented in public records and the letter
> written by mr clinton himself, referenced above, clearly demonstrates his
> character and general lack of honor.
>
> I can only surmise that mr clinton assumed that his confessional letter
> would have been lost over the years.
>
> Perhaps it is best to allow an old friend of mr clinton to describe his
> character.Cliff Jackson,an Arkansas attorney was a friend and classmate of
> bill clinton at Oxford in the late 1960s.Although he professes no personal
> rancor toward mr clinton, Jackson is a vocal critic of what he describes as
> mr. clinton's "casual willingness to deceive, to exploit, and to manipulate
> in order to attain personal and political power."
>
>
>
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:vKmdnRw7WuEFE9zZRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
>
>>Actually Clinton got a perfectly legal deferral and was not a sworn
>>member of the armed services at any point to have any commitment to run
>>away from. Not exactly what I would call up and up, but not that
>>uncommon for someone with a scholarship to a prestigious educational
>>institution. As for protesting against the US, your history is as
>>flawed as your other facts... there is and was a clear difference
>>between protesting against a war and protesting against the US itself.
>>e.g. Jane Fonda as compared to a few presidential candidates of the time.
>>
>>Unlike the other guy who did swear an oath as a member of the armed
>>services and then used political connections to avoid actually serving
>>more than nominal part time duty. With pretty strong rumors amongst
>>military folks that part of this was to avoid the consequences of a
>>urine test. Can't confirm the rumors...nor frankly care.
>>
>>billy ray proclaimed:
>>
>>
>>>Clinton wasn't an 'ex-military" guy. He was a coward who applied for
>
> ROTC
>
>>>and then ran away from his commitment and while overseas protested
>
> against
>
>>>the US.
>>>
>>>He is, in my opinion, even worse than the dope smoking hippie cowards
>
> who
>
>>>ran away to Canada.
>>>
>>>But that is just my opinion....
>>>
>>>"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>news:Kzc0g.69974$dW3.58489@newssvr21.news.prodi gy.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Right, let's go back to the big time 'ex-military' guys who don't
>>>>inhale. It was MUCH better back then. Cigar anyone? WAFJ.
>>>>
>>>>tw
>>>>______________________________________________ _______________________
>>>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>>
>>>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>>
>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>>
>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>>______________________________________________ _______________________
>>>>
>>>>Lon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Haven't really paid much attention other than to Marysville.
>>>>>
>>>>>America, where any AWOL alchoholic cocaine addict can grow up to be
>>>>>president.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
to feed their fantasies.
billy ray proclaimed:
> In 1968 Bill Clinton was classified as 1-A on March 20. He was ordered to
> report for induction on July 28, 1969. He didn't show. He then was
> re-classified as 1-D after enlisting in the Army Reserves on August 7, 1969
> and takes the oath of enlistment. He failed to report to his duty station at
> the University of Arkansas ROTC in September 1969. He was in England. On
> October 15, 1969 he organized and led an Anti-War demonstration in London.
> to England - where an induction notice was mailed to him. After that, the
> record gets murky. On October 30, 1969 Bill Clinton was reclassified by his
> Draft Board as 1-A. On November 15, 1969 Bill Clinton organized and led
> another anti-war demonstration in London.
>
> On December 3, 1969 Bill Clinton wrote to Lt. Colonel Holmes, who headed the
> University of Arkansas ROTC at the time, to explain why he had not shown up
> as ordered by had gone to England instate. That letter, which was placed in
> the Congressional Record on July 30, 1993 by Rep. Dornan of California,
> states in Clinton's own words: "When the draft came, despite political
> convictions, I was having a hard time facing the prospect of fighting a war
> I had been fighting against."
>
> He applied for the 'legal' deferral with fraudulent intent as evidenced by
> his own letter to his ROTC commander.
> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...aftletter.html
>
> Lt. Bush requested and received a transfer from the Texas Air National Guard
> to the 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Group in Alabama so he could work, off
> duty, on the Senate campaign of 'Red" Blount.
>
> Despite the lies and forgeries disseminated by the Demoncrats and their
> liberal commie media lackeys no evidence of his being AWOL have been
> demonstrated, and testimony of fellow unit members, supported by medical and
> dental examination records as well as pay records have been ignored. But
> them I assume you will attribute this all to some vast Right-Wing Conspiracy
> that the only evidence is that he was not AWOL.
>
> On the other hand it is well documented in public records and the letter
> written by mr clinton himself, referenced above, clearly demonstrates his
> character and general lack of honor.
>
> I can only surmise that mr clinton assumed that his confessional letter
> would have been lost over the years.
>
> Perhaps it is best to allow an old friend of mr clinton to describe his
> character.Cliff Jackson,an Arkansas attorney was a friend and classmate of
> bill clinton at Oxford in the late 1960s.Although he professes no personal
> rancor toward mr clinton, Jackson is a vocal critic of what he describes as
> mr. clinton's "casual willingness to deceive, to exploit, and to manipulate
> in order to attain personal and political power."
>
>
>
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:vKmdnRw7WuEFE9zZRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
>
>>Actually Clinton got a perfectly legal deferral and was not a sworn
>>member of the armed services at any point to have any commitment to run
>>away from. Not exactly what I would call up and up, but not that
>>uncommon for someone with a scholarship to a prestigious educational
>>institution. As for protesting against the US, your history is as
>>flawed as your other facts... there is and was a clear difference
>>between protesting against a war and protesting against the US itself.
>>e.g. Jane Fonda as compared to a few presidential candidates of the time.
>>
>>Unlike the other guy who did swear an oath as a member of the armed
>>services and then used political connections to avoid actually serving
>>more than nominal part time duty. With pretty strong rumors amongst
>>military folks that part of this was to avoid the consequences of a
>>urine test. Can't confirm the rumors...nor frankly care.
>>
>>billy ray proclaimed:
>>
>>
>>>Clinton wasn't an 'ex-military" guy. He was a coward who applied for
>
> ROTC
>
>>>and then ran away from his commitment and while overseas protested
>
> against
>
>>>the US.
>>>
>>>He is, in my opinion, even worse than the dope smoking hippie cowards
>
> who
>
>>>ran away to Canada.
>>>
>>>But that is just my opinion....
>>>
>>>"twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>news:Kzc0g.69974$dW3.58489@newssvr21.news.prodi gy.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Right, let's go back to the big time 'ex-military' guys who don't
>>>>inhale. It was MUCH better back then. Cigar anyone? WAFJ.
>>>>
>>>>tw
>>>>______________________________________________ _______________________
>>>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>>
>>>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>>
>>>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>>
>>>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>>______________________________________________ _______________________
>>>>
>>>>Lon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Haven't really paid much attention other than to Marysville.
>>>>>
>>>>>America, where any AWOL alchoholic cocaine addict can grow up to be
>>>>>president.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
#129
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 07 vs. 06 Wrangler torque curves?
I voted for the other guy...
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> I absolutely can't believe I voted for him the first time
> around!!!!!!!!!!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>
>>In 1968 Bill Clinton was classified as 1-A on March 20. He was ordered to
>>report for induction on July 28, 1969. He didn't show. He then was
>>re-classified as 1-D after enlisting in the Army Reserves on August 7, 1969
>>and takes the oath of enlistment. He failed to report to his duty station at
>>the University of Arkansas ROTC in September 1969. He was in England. On
>>October 15, 1969 he organized and led an Anti-War demonstration in London.
>>to England - where an induction notice was mailed to him. After that, the
>>record gets murky. On October 30, 1969 Bill Clinton was reclassified by his
>>Draft Board as 1-A. On November 15, 1969 Bill Clinton organized and led
>>another anti-war demonstration in London.
>>
>>On December 3, 1969 Bill Clinton wrote to Lt. Colonel Holmes, who headed the
>>University of Arkansas ROTC at the time, to explain why he had not shown up
>>as ordered by had gone to England instate. That letter, which was placed in
>>the Congressional Record on July 30, 1993 by Rep. Dornan of California,
>>states in Clinton's own words: "When the draft came, despite political
>>convictions, I was having a hard time facing the prospect of fighting a war
>>I had been fighting against."
>>
>>He applied for the 'legal' deferral with fraudulent intent as evidenced by
>>his own letter to his ROTC commander.
>>http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...aftletter.html
>>
>>Lt. Bush requested and received a transfer from the Texas Air National Guard
>>to the 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Group in Alabama so he could work, off
>>duty, on the Senate campaign of 'Red" Blount.
>>
>>Despite the lies and forgeries disseminated by the Demoncrats and their
>>liberal commie media lackeys no evidence of his being AWOL have been
>>demonstrated, and testimony of fellow unit members, supported by medical and
>>dental examination records as well as pay records have been ignored. But
>>them I assume you will attribute this all to some vast Right-Wing Conspiracy
>>that the only evidence is that he was not AWOL.
>>
>>On the other hand it is well documented in public records and the letter
>>written by mr clinton himself, referenced above, clearly demonstrates his
>>character and general lack of honor.
>>
>>I can only surmise that mr clinton assumed that his confessional letter
>>would have been lost over the years.
>>
>>Perhaps it is best to allow an old friend of mr clinton to describe his
>>character.Cliff Jackson,an Arkansas attorney was a friend and classmate of
>>bill clinton at Oxford in the late 1960s.Although he professes no personal
>>rancor toward mr clinton, Jackson is a vocal critic of what he describes as
>>mr. clinton's "casual willingness to deceive, to exploit, and to manipulate
>>in order to attain personal and political power."
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> I absolutely can't believe I voted for him the first time
> around!!!!!!!!!!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>
>>In 1968 Bill Clinton was classified as 1-A on March 20. He was ordered to
>>report for induction on July 28, 1969. He didn't show. He then was
>>re-classified as 1-D after enlisting in the Army Reserves on August 7, 1969
>>and takes the oath of enlistment. He failed to report to his duty station at
>>the University of Arkansas ROTC in September 1969. He was in England. On
>>October 15, 1969 he organized and led an Anti-War demonstration in London.
>>to England - where an induction notice was mailed to him. After that, the
>>record gets murky. On October 30, 1969 Bill Clinton was reclassified by his
>>Draft Board as 1-A. On November 15, 1969 Bill Clinton organized and led
>>another anti-war demonstration in London.
>>
>>On December 3, 1969 Bill Clinton wrote to Lt. Colonel Holmes, who headed the
>>University of Arkansas ROTC at the time, to explain why he had not shown up
>>as ordered by had gone to England instate. That letter, which was placed in
>>the Congressional Record on July 30, 1993 by Rep. Dornan of California,
>>states in Clinton's own words: "When the draft came, despite political
>>convictions, I was having a hard time facing the prospect of fighting a war
>>I had been fighting against."
>>
>>He applied for the 'legal' deferral with fraudulent intent as evidenced by
>>his own letter to his ROTC commander.
>>http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...aftletter.html
>>
>>Lt. Bush requested and received a transfer from the Texas Air National Guard
>>to the 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Group in Alabama so he could work, off
>>duty, on the Senate campaign of 'Red" Blount.
>>
>>Despite the lies and forgeries disseminated by the Demoncrats and their
>>liberal commie media lackeys no evidence of his being AWOL have been
>>demonstrated, and testimony of fellow unit members, supported by medical and
>>dental examination records as well as pay records have been ignored. But
>>them I assume you will attribute this all to some vast Right-Wing Conspiracy
>>that the only evidence is that he was not AWOL.
>>
>>On the other hand it is well documented in public records and the letter
>>written by mr clinton himself, referenced above, clearly demonstrates his
>>character and general lack of honor.
>>
>>I can only surmise that mr clinton assumed that his confessional letter
>>would have been lost over the years.
>>
>>Perhaps it is best to allow an old friend of mr clinton to describe his
>>character.Cliff Jackson,an Arkansas attorney was a friend and classmate of
>>bill clinton at Oxford in the late 1960s.Although he professes no personal
>>rancor toward mr clinton, Jackson is a vocal critic of what he describes as
>>mr. clinton's "casual willingness to deceive, to exploit, and to manipulate
>>in order to attain personal and political power."
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I voted for the other guy...
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> I absolutely can't believe I voted for him the first time
> around!!!!!!!!!!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>
>>In 1968 Bill Clinton was classified as 1-A on March 20. He was ordered to
>>report for induction on July 28, 1969. He didn't show. He then was
>>re-classified as 1-D after enlisting in the Army Reserves on August 7, 1969
>>and takes the oath of enlistment. He failed to report to his duty station at
>>the University of Arkansas ROTC in September 1969. He was in England. On
>>October 15, 1969 he organized and led an Anti-War demonstration in London.
>>to England - where an induction notice was mailed to him. After that, the
>>record gets murky. On October 30, 1969 Bill Clinton was reclassified by his
>>Draft Board as 1-A. On November 15, 1969 Bill Clinton organized and led
>>another anti-war demonstration in London.
>>
>>On December 3, 1969 Bill Clinton wrote to Lt. Colonel Holmes, who headed the
>>University of Arkansas ROTC at the time, to explain why he had not shown up
>>as ordered by had gone to England instate. That letter, which was placed in
>>the Congressional Record on July 30, 1993 by Rep. Dornan of California,
>>states in Clinton's own words: "When the draft came, despite political
>>convictions, I was having a hard time facing the prospect of fighting a war
>>I had been fighting against."
>>
>>He applied for the 'legal' deferral with fraudulent intent as evidenced by
>>his own letter to his ROTC commander.
>>http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...aftletter.html
>>
>>Lt. Bush requested and received a transfer from the Texas Air National Guard
>>to the 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Group in Alabama so he could work, off
>>duty, on the Senate campaign of 'Red" Blount.
>>
>>Despite the lies and forgeries disseminated by the Demoncrats and their
>>liberal commie media lackeys no evidence of his being AWOL have been
>>demonstrated, and testimony of fellow unit members, supported by medical and
>>dental examination records as well as pay records have been ignored. But
>>them I assume you will attribute this all to some vast Right-Wing Conspiracy
>>that the only evidence is that he was not AWOL.
>>
>>On the other hand it is well documented in public records and the letter
>>written by mr clinton himself, referenced above, clearly demonstrates his
>>character and general lack of honor.
>>
>>I can only surmise that mr clinton assumed that his confessional letter
>>would have been lost over the years.
>>
>>Perhaps it is best to allow an old friend of mr clinton to describe his
>>character.Cliff Jackson,an Arkansas attorney was a friend and classmate of
>>bill clinton at Oxford in the late 1960s.Although he professes no personal
>>rancor toward mr clinton, Jackson is a vocal critic of what he describes as
>>mr. clinton's "casual willingness to deceive, to exploit, and to manipulate
>>in order to attain personal and political power."
L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> I absolutely can't believe I voted for him the first time
> around!!!!!!!!!!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> billy ray wrote:
>
>>In 1968 Bill Clinton was classified as 1-A on March 20. He was ordered to
>>report for induction on July 28, 1969. He didn't show. He then was
>>re-classified as 1-D after enlisting in the Army Reserves on August 7, 1969
>>and takes the oath of enlistment. He failed to report to his duty station at
>>the University of Arkansas ROTC in September 1969. He was in England. On
>>October 15, 1969 he organized and led an Anti-War demonstration in London.
>>to England - where an induction notice was mailed to him. After that, the
>>record gets murky. On October 30, 1969 Bill Clinton was reclassified by his
>>Draft Board as 1-A. On November 15, 1969 Bill Clinton organized and led
>>another anti-war demonstration in London.
>>
>>On December 3, 1969 Bill Clinton wrote to Lt. Colonel Holmes, who headed the
>>University of Arkansas ROTC at the time, to explain why he had not shown up
>>as ordered by had gone to England instate. That letter, which was placed in
>>the Congressional Record on July 30, 1993 by Rep. Dornan of California,
>>states in Clinton's own words: "When the draft came, despite political
>>convictions, I was having a hard time facing the prospect of fighting a war
>>I had been fighting against."
>>
>>He applied for the 'legal' deferral with fraudulent intent as evidenced by
>>his own letter to his ROTC commander.
>>http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl...aftletter.html
>>
>>Lt. Bush requested and received a transfer from the Texas Air National Guard
>>to the 187th Tactical Reconnaissance Group in Alabama so he could work, off
>>duty, on the Senate campaign of 'Red" Blount.
>>
>>Despite the lies and forgeries disseminated by the Demoncrats and their
>>liberal commie media lackeys no evidence of his being AWOL have been
>>demonstrated, and testimony of fellow unit members, supported by medical and
>>dental examination records as well as pay records have been ignored. But
>>them I assume you will attribute this all to some vast Right-Wing Conspiracy
>>that the only evidence is that he was not AWOL.
>>
>>On the other hand it is well documented in public records and the letter
>>written by mr clinton himself, referenced above, clearly demonstrates his
>>character and general lack of honor.
>>
>>I can only surmise that mr clinton assumed that his confessional letter
>>would have been lost over the years.
>>
>>Perhaps it is best to allow an old friend of mr clinton to describe his
>>character.Cliff Jackson,an Arkansas attorney was a friend and classmate of
>>bill clinton at Oxford in the late 1960s.Although he professes no personal
>>rancor toward mr clinton, Jackson is a vocal critic of what he describes as
>>mr. clinton's "casual willingness to deceive, to exploit, and to manipulate
>>in order to attain personal and political power."