Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 

dbu., wrote:
> In article <eD5ui.7625$dD3.2352@trnddc07>,
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>> news:nps-5E9355.16062407082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>>> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was working
>>>> okay
>>>> for a very long time.
>>>>
>>>> I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of the
>>>> garage
>>>> and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are normally
>>>> unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until I turned it off
>>>> one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and now it
>>>> doesn't run.
>>> You mean the wireless doesn't run, the computer otherwise works fine?
>>>
>>> --
>>
>> Well, yeah. When the old heap is up on blocks, it runs fine. But when I put
>> the tires on and take the jack stands out, it stalls again (to keep my bad
>> analogy alive) ...
>
> I wonder if the old drivers are still in the computer or do the new ones
> overwrite the old?
>
> I'm not so sure it's hardware. If it were me I'd be looking at
> SW/driver before replacing an otherwise good running machine.
>
> Aren't computers fun...GL
>
What is the OS, and what kind of machine, and everything else?
Can you check for conflicts?

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
> news:nps-DED5B9.16594007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> In article <eD5ui.7625$dD3.2352@trnddc07>,
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>> news:nps-5E9355.16062407082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>> >>
>>> >> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was
>>> working
>>> >> okay
>>> >> for a very long time.
>>> >>
>>> >> I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of the
>>> >> garage
>>> >> and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are normally
>>> >> unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until I turned
>>> it >> off
>>> >> one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and
>>> now >> it
>>> >> doesn't run.
>>> >
>>> > You mean the wireless doesn't run, the computer otherwise works fine?
>>> >
>>> > --
>>>
>>> Well, yeah. When the old heap is up on blocks, it runs fine. But when
>>> I put
>>> the tires on and take the jack stands out, it stalls again (to keep
>>> my bad
>>> analogy alive) ...
>>
>> I wonder if the old drivers are still in the computer or do the new ones
>> overwrite the old?
>>
>> I'm not so sure it's hardware. If it were me I'd be looking at
>> SW/driver before replacing an otherwise good running machine.
>>
>> Aren't computers fun...GL
>>
>
> It behaved the same way with two different wireless adaptors and two
> different installs of WinXP Pro, and the latest install of XP did a
> forced reformat of the hard drive. I'm confident the only wireless
> drivers I am dealing with now are for the D-Link adaptor. As an aside,
> the machine seems to not care about the USB 2.0 adaptor that also uses
> the PCI bus. Maybe my hints at a bad power supply are not accurate ...
>
> Somebody suggested a interupt conflict, but there was no change in the
> interupts between the time the machine worked okay and when it began
> working poorly. No software or hardware had been installed or modified,
> all we did was unplug the machine and set it up on another table to pull
> our private files -- pictures, Word Documents, that sort of stuff -- off
> of it.
>
> We've already replaced the machine, but I can find a new home for it if
> I can make it run. It works fine in a stand alone environment, but I
> really need it to be connected to the wireless network. I suppose I
> could drag it close to the router and plug in a CAT 5 cable, but that
> does not give me what I'm really looking for. And, that requires a NIC
> card and a CAT 5 cable.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Hillew, my name is Sam,
I am sorri you sim to bi having problims,
Plise go to sistims divice and till mi if you have an conflics,

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
> news:nps-DED5B9.16594007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> In article <eD5ui.7625$dD3.2352@trnddc07>,
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>> news:nps-5E9355.16062407082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>> >>
>>> >> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was
>>> working
>>> >> okay
>>> >> for a very long time.
>>> >>
>>> >> I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of the
>>> >> garage
>>> >> and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are normally
>>> >> unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until I turned
>>> it >> off
>>> >> one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and
>>> now >> it
>>> >> doesn't run.
>>> >
>>> > You mean the wireless doesn't run, the computer otherwise works fine?
>>> >
>>> > --
>>>
>>> Well, yeah. When the old heap is up on blocks, it runs fine. But when
>>> I put
>>> the tires on and take the jack stands out, it stalls again (to keep
>>> my bad
>>> analogy alive) ...
>>
>> I wonder if the old drivers are still in the computer or do the new ones
>> overwrite the old?
>>
>> I'm not so sure it's hardware. If it were me I'd be looking at
>> SW/driver before replacing an otherwise good running machine.
>>
>> Aren't computers fun...GL
>>
>
> It behaved the same way with two different wireless adaptors and two
> different installs of WinXP Pro, and the latest install of XP did a
> forced reformat of the hard drive. I'm confident the only wireless
> drivers I am dealing with now are for the D-Link adaptor. As an aside,
> the machine seems to not care about the USB 2.0 adaptor that also uses
> the PCI bus. Maybe my hints at a bad power supply are not accurate ...
>
> Somebody suggested a interupt conflict, but there was no change in the
> interupts between the time the machine worked okay and when it began
> working poorly. No software or hardware had been installed or modified,
> all we did was unplug the machine and set it up on another table to pull
> our private files -- pictures, Word Documents, that sort of stuff -- off
> of it.
>
> We've already replaced the machine, but I can find a new home for it if
> I can make it run. It works fine in a stand alone environment, but I
> really need it to be connected to the wireless network. I suppose I
> could drag it close to the router and plug in a CAT 5 cable, but that
> does not give me what I'm really looking for. And, that requires a NIC
> card and a CAT 5 cable.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Hillew, my name is Sam,
I am sorri you sim to bi having problims,
Plise go to sistims divice and till mi if you have an conflics,

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
> news:nps-DED5B9.16594007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> In article <eD5ui.7625$dD3.2352@trnddc07>,
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>> news:nps-5E9355.16062407082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>> >>
>>> >> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was
>>> working
>>> >> okay
>>> >> for a very long time.
>>> >>
>>> >> I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of the
>>> >> garage
>>> >> and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are normally
>>> >> unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until I turned
>>> it >> off
>>> >> one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and
>>> now >> it
>>> >> doesn't run.
>>> >
>>> > You mean the wireless doesn't run, the computer otherwise works fine?
>>> >
>>> > --
>>>
>>> Well, yeah. When the old heap is up on blocks, it runs fine. But when
>>> I put
>>> the tires on and take the jack stands out, it stalls again (to keep
>>> my bad
>>> analogy alive) ...
>>
>> I wonder if the old drivers are still in the computer or do the new ones
>> overwrite the old?
>>
>> I'm not so sure it's hardware. If it were me I'd be looking at
>> SW/driver before replacing an otherwise good running machine.
>>
>> Aren't computers fun...GL
>>
>
> It behaved the same way with two different wireless adaptors and two
> different installs of WinXP Pro, and the latest install of XP did a
> forced reformat of the hard drive. I'm confident the only wireless
> drivers I am dealing with now are for the D-Link adaptor. As an aside,
> the machine seems to not care about the USB 2.0 adaptor that also uses
> the PCI bus. Maybe my hints at a bad power supply are not accurate ...
>
> Somebody suggested a interupt conflict, but there was no change in the
> interupts between the time the machine worked okay and when it began
> working poorly. No software or hardware had been installed or modified,
> all we did was unplug the machine and set it up on another table to pull
> our private files -- pictures, Word Documents, that sort of stuff -- off
> of it.
>
> We've already replaced the machine, but I can find a new home for it if
> I can make it run. It works fine in a stand alone environment, but I
> really need it to be connected to the wireless network. I suppose I
> could drag it close to the router and plug in a CAT 5 cable, but that
> does not give me what I'm really looking for. And, that requires a NIC
> card and a CAT 5 cable.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Hillew, my name is Sam,
I am sorri you sim to bi having problims,
Plise go to sistims divice and till mi if you have an conflics,

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 

Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
> news:nps-DED5B9.16594007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> In article <eD5ui.7625$dD3.2352@trnddc07>,
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
>>> news:nps-5E9355.16062407082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>>> >>
>>> >> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was
>>> working
>>> >> okay
>>> >> for a very long time.
>>> >>
>>> >> I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of the
>>> >> garage
>>> >> and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are normally
>>> >> unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until I turned
>>> it >> off
>>> >> one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and
>>> now >> it
>>> >> doesn't run.
>>> >
>>> > You mean the wireless doesn't run, the computer otherwise works fine?
>>> >
>>> > --
>>>
>>> Well, yeah. When the old heap is up on blocks, it runs fine. But when
>>> I put
>>> the tires on and take the jack stands out, it stalls again (to keep
>>> my bad
>>> analogy alive) ...
>>
>> I wonder if the old drivers are still in the computer or do the new ones
>> overwrite the old?
>>
>> I'm not so sure it's hardware. If it were me I'd be looking at
>> SW/driver before replacing an otherwise good running machine.
>>
>> Aren't computers fun...GL
>>
>
> It behaved the same way with two different wireless adaptors and two
> different installs of WinXP Pro, and the latest install of XP did a
> forced reformat of the hard drive. I'm confident the only wireless
> drivers I am dealing with now are for the D-Link adaptor. As an aside,
> the machine seems to not care about the USB 2.0 adaptor that also uses
> the PCI bus. Maybe my hints at a bad power supply are not accurate ...
>
> Somebody suggested a interupt conflict, but there was no change in the
> interupts between the time the machine worked okay and when it began
> working poorly. No software or hardware had been installed or modified,
> all we did was unplug the machine and set it up on another table to pull
> our private files -- pictures, Word Documents, that sort of stuff -- off
> of it.
>
> We've already replaced the machine, but I can find a new home for it if
> I can make it run. It works fine in a stand alone environment, but I
> really need it to be connected to the wireless network. I suppose I
> could drag it close to the router and plug in a CAT 5 cable, but that
> does not give me what I'm really looking for. And, that requires a NIC
> card and a CAT 5 cable.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Hillew, my name is Sam,
I am sorri you sim to bi having problims,
Plise go to sistims divice and till mi if you have an conflics,

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 

On 2007-08-07 14:30:41 -0700, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> said:

> I did a fresh install of WinDoze a few minutes before I went and bought
> another machine. I managed to get a successful activation of the key
> code right before it crapped the first time after installing the
> wireless adaptor.
>
> I don't have a wired network on the machine, only a wireless one. I was
> hoping for a power supply problem ahead of a motherboard problem. I'll
> likely not fix the motherboard if that is the trouble, but a power
> supply is an easy fix, and cheap too ...

You may not have a cable plugged in, but I'll wager you've got an
active connection. Check it via
the Control Panel's icon.

> I was thinkning of a heat sensitive component too, but I was hoping it
> lived inside the power supply ...

I doubt it. When they go, as a rule they go big. But at least your
MBR has that code successfully entered.
That'll do fine if it finds its way to another MB. Remember, even if
the install is fresh, you'll need to do it
again with another MB if you choose to go that way.

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 

On 2007-08-07 14:30:41 -0700, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> said:

> I did a fresh install of WinDoze a few minutes before I went and bought
> another machine. I managed to get a successful activation of the key
> code right before it crapped the first time after installing the
> wireless adaptor.
>
> I don't have a wired network on the machine, only a wireless one. I was
> hoping for a power supply problem ahead of a motherboard problem. I'll
> likely not fix the motherboard if that is the trouble, but a power
> supply is an easy fix, and cheap too ...

You may not have a cable plugged in, but I'll wager you've got an
active connection. Check it via
the Control Panel's icon.

> I was thinkning of a heat sensitive component too, but I was hoping it
> lived inside the power supply ...

I doubt it. When they go, as a rule they go big. But at least your
MBR has that code successfully entered.
That'll do fine if it finds its way to another MB. Remember, even if
the install is fresh, you'll need to do it
again with another MB if you choose to go that way.

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 

On 2007-08-07 14:30:41 -0700, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> said:

> I did a fresh install of WinDoze a few minutes before I went and bought
> another machine. I managed to get a successful activation of the key
> code right before it crapped the first time after installing the
> wireless adaptor.
>
> I don't have a wired network on the machine, only a wireless one. I was
> hoping for a power supply problem ahead of a motherboard problem. I'll
> likely not fix the motherboard if that is the trouble, but a power
> supply is an easy fix, and cheap too ...

You may not have a cable plugged in, but I'll wager you've got an
active connection. Check it via
the Control Panel's icon.

> I was thinkning of a heat sensitive component too, but I was hoping it
> lived inside the power supply ...

I doubt it. When they go, as a rule they go big. But at least your
MBR has that code successfully entered.
That'll do fine if it finds its way to another MB. Remember, even if
the install is fresh, you'll need to do it
again with another MB if you choose to go that way.

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 

On 2007-08-07 14:30:41 -0700, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> said:

> I did a fresh install of WinDoze a few minutes before I went and bought
> another machine. I managed to get a successful activation of the key
> code right before it crapped the first time after installing the
> wireless adaptor.
>
> I don't have a wired network on the machine, only a wireless one. I was
> hoping for a power supply problem ahead of a motherboard problem. I'll
> likely not fix the motherboard if that is the trouble, but a power
> supply is an easy fix, and cheap too ...

You may not have a cable plugged in, but I'll wager you've got an
active connection. Check it via
the Control Panel's icon.

> I was thinkning of a heat sensitive component too, but I was hoping it
> lived inside the power supply ...

I doubt it. When they go, as a rule they go big. But at least your
MBR has that code successfully entered.
That'll do fine if it finds its way to another MB. Remember, even if
the install is fresh, you'll need to do it
again with another MB if you choose to go that way.

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 

On 2007-08-07 15:52:41 -0700, Moe <BubbleleLand@Fat.City> said:
> Hillew, my name is Sam,
> I am sorri you sim to bi having problims,
> Plise go to sistims divice and till mi if you have an conflics,

Doggone outsourcing.