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Jeff Strickland 08-07-2007 03:44 PM

{{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the mouse
locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer freezes at
the same time. In the grand scheme of chicken-and-egg, I don't know that the
computer freezes and the mouse stops moving, or the mouse stops and the
computer freezes. I only know that the computer has stopped because the
mouse no longer responds.

I have to physically shut the computer off by holding the power switch.

After many hours of checking, I discovered that if I remove the wireless
adaptor, the computer works properly for days on end. When I install the
wireless adaptor, the computer will lock up within a few minutes.

I'm certain that I have a hardware problem, and I think I have a power
supply issue on my hands. The wireless adaptor is a PCI bus device, and I'm
thinking the bus power supply is teetering on the brink of collapse, and the
adaptor pushes it over the edge.

The motherboard is based on Celeron architecture, I forget the clock speed
but 900 MHz sticks in my head.

This machine worked for years without ever giving me a problem. I installed
the wireless adaptor about two years ago and was a broadband bandit for more
than a year before I broke down and bought fiber optic service for my
internet access. In the past ten days, I bought a new Core-2 Intel
something-or-other, and was going to sell the Celeron to my brother in law.
While removing my files, the mouse started acting up, and I jumped through
all kinds of hoops trying to get the machine to work, I finally bought
another Core 2 something-or-other for my BIL.

I found that the Celeron machine now works flawlessly for days and days, but
I did not realize the wireless adaptor was a key. I installed a new wireless
adaptor -- different from the original one -- and the problems began again
within minutes. Sometimes the machine will lock up on the Desktop while
booting, other times it will boot okay but lock up a while later. In any
case, it always locks up in less than about 20 minutes. The PC is completely
stripped right now, it has a keyboard, mouse, and monitor only. No printer
or any other peripheral, including CD drive or 3.5" floppy. From the view of
the power supply, there is only a motherboard, mouse, keyboard, and monitor.

When the wireless adaptor is installed into any of the 3 PCI ports, the
computer locks up.

Is this a power supply issue?






witfal 08-07-2007 03:57 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
On 2007-08-07 12:44:35 -0700, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> said:

> I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the
> mouse locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer
> freezes at the same time. In the grand scheme of chicken-and-egg, I
> don't know that the computer freezes and the mouse stops moving, or the
> mouse stops and the computer freezes. I only know that the computer has
> stopped because the mouse no longer responds.
>
> I have to physically shut the computer off by holding the power switch.
>
> After many hours of checking, I discovered that if I remove the
> wireless adaptor, the computer works properly for days on end. When I
> install the wireless adaptor, the computer will lock up within a few
> minutes.
>
> I'm certain that I have a hardware problem, and I think I have a power
> supply issue on my hands. The wireless adaptor is a PCI bus device, and
> I'm thinking the bus power supply is teetering on the brink of
> collapse, and the adaptor pushes it over the edge.
>
> The motherboard is based on Celeron architecture, I forget the clock
> speed but 900 MHz sticks in my head.
>
> This machine worked for years without ever giving me a problem. I
> installed the wireless adaptor about two years ago and was a broadband
> bandit for more than a year before I broke down and bought fiber optic
> service for my internet access. In the past ten days, I bought a new
> Core-2 Intel something-or-other, and was going to sell the Celeron to
> my brother in law. While removing my files, the mouse started acting
> up, and I jumped through all kinds of hoops trying to get the machine
> to work, I finally bought another Core 2 something-or-other for my BIL.
>
> I found that the Celeron machine now works flawlessly for days and
> days, but I did not realize the wireless adaptor was a key. I installed
> a new wireless adaptor -- different from the original one -- and the
> problems began again within minutes. Sometimes the machine will lock up
> on the Desktop while booting, other times it will boot okay but lock up
> a while later. In any case, it always locks up in less than about 20
> minutes. The PC is completely stripped right now, it has a keyboard,
> mouse, and monitor only. No printer or any other peripheral, including
> CD drive or 3.5" floppy. From the view of the power supply, there is
> only a motherboard, mouse, keyboard, and monitor.
>
> When the wireless adaptor is installed into any of the 3 PCI ports, the
> computer locks up.
>
> Is this a power supply issue?


It sounds like an IRQ problem. The other PCI devices in your machine
do not like the wireless adapter. Have you
also added any other PCI cards, new OR replacements, to your box
recently? Also check the wireless adapter
manufacturer's site for updated drivers which may address the issue.

When the box locks up, can you get any reaction from the Windows key on
your keyboard?

Kinda tough diagnosing remotely. That's all I can think of right now.


witfal 08-07-2007 03:57 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
On 2007-08-07 12:44:35 -0700, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> said:

> I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the
> mouse locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer
> freezes at the same time. In the grand scheme of chicken-and-egg, I
> don't know that the computer freezes and the mouse stops moving, or the
> mouse stops and the computer freezes. I only know that the computer has
> stopped because the mouse no longer responds.
>
> I have to physically shut the computer off by holding the power switch.
>
> After many hours of checking, I discovered that if I remove the
> wireless adaptor, the computer works properly for days on end. When I
> install the wireless adaptor, the computer will lock up within a few
> minutes.
>
> I'm certain that I have a hardware problem, and I think I have a power
> supply issue on my hands. The wireless adaptor is a PCI bus device, and
> I'm thinking the bus power supply is teetering on the brink of
> collapse, and the adaptor pushes it over the edge.
>
> The motherboard is based on Celeron architecture, I forget the clock
> speed but 900 MHz sticks in my head.
>
> This machine worked for years without ever giving me a problem. I
> installed the wireless adaptor about two years ago and was a broadband
> bandit for more than a year before I broke down and bought fiber optic
> service for my internet access. In the past ten days, I bought a new
> Core-2 Intel something-or-other, and was going to sell the Celeron to
> my brother in law. While removing my files, the mouse started acting
> up, and I jumped through all kinds of hoops trying to get the machine
> to work, I finally bought another Core 2 something-or-other for my BIL.
>
> I found that the Celeron machine now works flawlessly for days and
> days, but I did not realize the wireless adaptor was a key. I installed
> a new wireless adaptor -- different from the original one -- and the
> problems began again within minutes. Sometimes the machine will lock up
> on the Desktop while booting, other times it will boot okay but lock up
> a while later. In any case, it always locks up in less than about 20
> minutes. The PC is completely stripped right now, it has a keyboard,
> mouse, and monitor only. No printer or any other peripheral, including
> CD drive or 3.5" floppy. From the view of the power supply, there is
> only a motherboard, mouse, keyboard, and monitor.
>
> When the wireless adaptor is installed into any of the 3 PCI ports, the
> computer locks up.
>
> Is this a power supply issue?


It sounds like an IRQ problem. The other PCI devices in your machine
do not like the wireless adapter. Have you
also added any other PCI cards, new OR replacements, to your box
recently? Also check the wireless adapter
manufacturer's site for updated drivers which may address the issue.

When the box locks up, can you get any reaction from the Windows key on
your keyboard?

Kinda tough diagnosing remotely. That's all I can think of right now.


witfal 08-07-2007 03:57 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
On 2007-08-07 12:44:35 -0700, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> said:

> I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the
> mouse locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer
> freezes at the same time. In the grand scheme of chicken-and-egg, I
> don't know that the computer freezes and the mouse stops moving, or the
> mouse stops and the computer freezes. I only know that the computer has
> stopped because the mouse no longer responds.
>
> I have to physically shut the computer off by holding the power switch.
>
> After many hours of checking, I discovered that if I remove the
> wireless adaptor, the computer works properly for days on end. When I
> install the wireless adaptor, the computer will lock up within a few
> minutes.
>
> I'm certain that I have a hardware problem, and I think I have a power
> supply issue on my hands. The wireless adaptor is a PCI bus device, and
> I'm thinking the bus power supply is teetering on the brink of
> collapse, and the adaptor pushes it over the edge.
>
> The motherboard is based on Celeron architecture, I forget the clock
> speed but 900 MHz sticks in my head.
>
> This machine worked for years without ever giving me a problem. I
> installed the wireless adaptor about two years ago and was a broadband
> bandit for more than a year before I broke down and bought fiber optic
> service for my internet access. In the past ten days, I bought a new
> Core-2 Intel something-or-other, and was going to sell the Celeron to
> my brother in law. While removing my files, the mouse started acting
> up, and I jumped through all kinds of hoops trying to get the machine
> to work, I finally bought another Core 2 something-or-other for my BIL.
>
> I found that the Celeron machine now works flawlessly for days and
> days, but I did not realize the wireless adaptor was a key. I installed
> a new wireless adaptor -- different from the original one -- and the
> problems began again within minutes. Sometimes the machine will lock up
> on the Desktop while booting, other times it will boot okay but lock up
> a while later. In any case, it always locks up in less than about 20
> minutes. The PC is completely stripped right now, it has a keyboard,
> mouse, and monitor only. No printer or any other peripheral, including
> CD drive or 3.5" floppy. From the view of the power supply, there is
> only a motherboard, mouse, keyboard, and monitor.
>
> When the wireless adaptor is installed into any of the 3 PCI ports, the
> computer locks up.
>
> Is this a power supply issue?


It sounds like an IRQ problem. The other PCI devices in your machine
do not like the wireless adapter. Have you
also added any other PCI cards, new OR replacements, to your box
recently? Also check the wireless adapter
manufacturer's site for updated drivers which may address the issue.

When the box locks up, can you get any reaction from the Windows key on
your keyboard?

Kinda tough diagnosing remotely. That's all I can think of right now.


witfal 08-07-2007 03:57 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
On 2007-08-07 12:44:35 -0700, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> said:

> I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the
> mouse locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer
> freezes at the same time. In the grand scheme of chicken-and-egg, I
> don't know that the computer freezes and the mouse stops moving, or the
> mouse stops and the computer freezes. I only know that the computer has
> stopped because the mouse no longer responds.
>
> I have to physically shut the computer off by holding the power switch.
>
> After many hours of checking, I discovered that if I remove the
> wireless adaptor, the computer works properly for days on end. When I
> install the wireless adaptor, the computer will lock up within a few
> minutes.
>
> I'm certain that I have a hardware problem, and I think I have a power
> supply issue on my hands. The wireless adaptor is a PCI bus device, and
> I'm thinking the bus power supply is teetering on the brink of
> collapse, and the adaptor pushes it over the edge.
>
> The motherboard is based on Celeron architecture, I forget the clock
> speed but 900 MHz sticks in my head.
>
> This machine worked for years without ever giving me a problem. I
> installed the wireless adaptor about two years ago and was a broadband
> bandit for more than a year before I broke down and bought fiber optic
> service for my internet access. In the past ten days, I bought a new
> Core-2 Intel something-or-other, and was going to sell the Celeron to
> my brother in law. While removing my files, the mouse started acting
> up, and I jumped through all kinds of hoops trying to get the machine
> to work, I finally bought another Core 2 something-or-other for my BIL.
>
> I found that the Celeron machine now works flawlessly for days and
> days, but I did not realize the wireless adaptor was a key. I installed
> a new wireless adaptor -- different from the original one -- and the
> problems began again within minutes. Sometimes the machine will lock up
> on the Desktop while booting, other times it will boot okay but lock up
> a while later. In any case, it always locks up in less than about 20
> minutes. The PC is completely stripped right now, it has a keyboard,
> mouse, and monitor only. No printer or any other peripheral, including
> CD drive or 3.5" floppy. From the view of the power supply, there is
> only a motherboard, mouse, keyboard, and monitor.
>
> When the wireless adaptor is installed into any of the 3 PCI ports, the
> computer locks up.
>
> Is this a power supply issue?


It sounds like an IRQ problem. The other PCI devices in your machine
do not like the wireless adapter. Have you
also added any other PCI cards, new OR replacements, to your box
recently? Also check the wireless adapter
manufacturer's site for updated drivers which may address the issue.

When the box locks up, can you get any reaction from the Windows key on
your keyboard?

Kinda tough diagnosing remotely. That's all I can think of right now.


dbu., 08-07-2007 04:01 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
In article <DY3ui.18645$ug3.17126@trnddc06>,
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:

> I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the mouse
> locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer freezes at
> the same time. In the grand scheme of chicken-and-egg, I don't know that the
> computer freezes and the mouse stops moving, or the mouse stops and the
> computer freezes. I only know that the computer has stopped because the
> mouse no longer responds.
>
> I have to physically shut the computer off by holding the power switch.
>
> After many hours of checking, I discovered that if I remove the wireless
> adaptor, the computer works properly for days on end. When I install the
> wireless adaptor, the computer will lock up within a few minutes.
>
> I'm certain that I have a hardware problem, and I think I have a power
> supply issue on my hands. The wireless adaptor is a PCI bus device, and I'm
> thinking the bus power supply is teetering on the brink of collapse, and the
> adaptor pushes it over the edge.
>
> The motherboard is based on Celeron architecture, I forget the clock speed
> but 900 MHz sticks in my head.
>
> This machine worked for years without ever giving me a problem. I installed
> the wireless adaptor about two years ago and was a broadband bandit for more
> than a year before I broke down and bought fiber optic service for my
> internet access. In the past ten days, I bought a new Core-2 Intel
> something-or-other, and was going to sell the Celeron to my brother in law.
> While removing my files, the mouse started acting up, and I jumped through
> all kinds of hoops trying to get the machine to work, I finally bought
> another Core 2 something-or-other for my BIL.
>
> I found that the Celeron machine now works flawlessly for days and days, but
> I did not realize the wireless adaptor was a key. I installed a new wireless
> adaptor -- different from the original one -- and the problems began again
> within minutes. Sometimes the machine will lock up on the Desktop while
> booting, other times it will boot okay but lock up a while later. In any
> case, it always locks up in less than about 20 minutes. The PC is completely
> stripped right now, it has a keyboard, mouse, and monitor only. No printer
> or any other peripheral, including CD drive or 3.5" floppy. From the view of
> the power supply, there is only a motherboard, mouse, keyboard, and monitor.
>
> When the wireless adaptor is installed into any of the 3 PCI ports, the
> computer locks up.
>
> Is this a power supply issue?


Do you have driver software for the wireless device?

--
"Fire up a colortini, sit back, relax, and watch the pictures, now,
as they fly through the air."
Tom Snyder

dbu., 08-07-2007 04:01 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
In article <DY3ui.18645$ug3.17126@trnddc06>,
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:

> I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the mouse
> locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer freezes at
> the same time. In the grand scheme of chicken-and-egg, I don't know that the
> computer freezes and the mouse stops moving, or the mouse stops and the
> computer freezes. I only know that the computer has stopped because the
> mouse no longer responds.
>
> I have to physically shut the computer off by holding the power switch.
>
> After many hours of checking, I discovered that if I remove the wireless
> adaptor, the computer works properly for days on end. When I install the
> wireless adaptor, the computer will lock up within a few minutes.
>
> I'm certain that I have a hardware problem, and I think I have a power
> supply issue on my hands. The wireless adaptor is a PCI bus device, and I'm
> thinking the bus power supply is teetering on the brink of collapse, and the
> adaptor pushes it over the edge.
>
> The motherboard is based on Celeron architecture, I forget the clock speed
> but 900 MHz sticks in my head.
>
> This machine worked for years without ever giving me a problem. I installed
> the wireless adaptor about two years ago and was a broadband bandit for more
> than a year before I broke down and bought fiber optic service for my
> internet access. In the past ten days, I bought a new Core-2 Intel
> something-or-other, and was going to sell the Celeron to my brother in law.
> While removing my files, the mouse started acting up, and I jumped through
> all kinds of hoops trying to get the machine to work, I finally bought
> another Core 2 something-or-other for my BIL.
>
> I found that the Celeron machine now works flawlessly for days and days, but
> I did not realize the wireless adaptor was a key. I installed a new wireless
> adaptor -- different from the original one -- and the problems began again
> within minutes. Sometimes the machine will lock up on the Desktop while
> booting, other times it will boot okay but lock up a while later. In any
> case, it always locks up in less than about 20 minutes. The PC is completely
> stripped right now, it has a keyboard, mouse, and monitor only. No printer
> or any other peripheral, including CD drive or 3.5" floppy. From the view of
> the power supply, there is only a motherboard, mouse, keyboard, and monitor.
>
> When the wireless adaptor is installed into any of the 3 PCI ports, the
> computer locks up.
>
> Is this a power supply issue?


Do you have driver software for the wireless device?

--
"Fire up a colortini, sit back, relax, and watch the pictures, now,
as they fly through the air."
Tom Snyder

dbu., 08-07-2007 04:01 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
In article <DY3ui.18645$ug3.17126@trnddc06>,
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:

> I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the mouse
> locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer freezes at
> the same time. In the grand scheme of chicken-and-egg, I don't know that the
> computer freezes and the mouse stops moving, or the mouse stops and the
> computer freezes. I only know that the computer has stopped because the
> mouse no longer responds.
>
> I have to physically shut the computer off by holding the power switch.
>
> After many hours of checking, I discovered that if I remove the wireless
> adaptor, the computer works properly for days on end. When I install the
> wireless adaptor, the computer will lock up within a few minutes.
>
> I'm certain that I have a hardware problem, and I think I have a power
> supply issue on my hands. The wireless adaptor is a PCI bus device, and I'm
> thinking the bus power supply is teetering on the brink of collapse, and the
> adaptor pushes it over the edge.
>
> The motherboard is based on Celeron architecture, I forget the clock speed
> but 900 MHz sticks in my head.
>
> This machine worked for years without ever giving me a problem. I installed
> the wireless adaptor about two years ago and was a broadband bandit for more
> than a year before I broke down and bought fiber optic service for my
> internet access. In the past ten days, I bought a new Core-2 Intel
> something-or-other, and was going to sell the Celeron to my brother in law.
> While removing my files, the mouse started acting up, and I jumped through
> all kinds of hoops trying to get the machine to work, I finally bought
> another Core 2 something-or-other for my BIL.
>
> I found that the Celeron machine now works flawlessly for days and days, but
> I did not realize the wireless adaptor was a key. I installed a new wireless
> adaptor -- different from the original one -- and the problems began again
> within minutes. Sometimes the machine will lock up on the Desktop while
> booting, other times it will boot okay but lock up a while later. In any
> case, it always locks up in less than about 20 minutes. The PC is completely
> stripped right now, it has a keyboard, mouse, and monitor only. No printer
> or any other peripheral, including CD drive or 3.5" floppy. From the view of
> the power supply, there is only a motherboard, mouse, keyboard, and monitor.
>
> When the wireless adaptor is installed into any of the 3 PCI ports, the
> computer locks up.
>
> Is this a power supply issue?


Do you have driver software for the wireless device?

--
"Fire up a colortini, sit back, relax, and watch the pictures, now,
as they fly through the air."
Tom Snyder

dbu., 08-07-2007 04:01 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
In article <DY3ui.18645$ug3.17126@trnddc06>,
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:

> I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the mouse
> locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer freezes at
> the same time. In the grand scheme of chicken-and-egg, I don't know that the
> computer freezes and the mouse stops moving, or the mouse stops and the
> computer freezes. I only know that the computer has stopped because the
> mouse no longer responds.
>
> I have to physically shut the computer off by holding the power switch.
>
> After many hours of checking, I discovered that if I remove the wireless
> adaptor, the computer works properly for days on end. When I install the
> wireless adaptor, the computer will lock up within a few minutes.
>
> I'm certain that I have a hardware problem, and I think I have a power
> supply issue on my hands. The wireless adaptor is a PCI bus device, and I'm
> thinking the bus power supply is teetering on the brink of collapse, and the
> adaptor pushes it over the edge.
>
> The motherboard is based on Celeron architecture, I forget the clock speed
> but 900 MHz sticks in my head.
>
> This machine worked for years without ever giving me a problem. I installed
> the wireless adaptor about two years ago and was a broadband bandit for more
> than a year before I broke down and bought fiber optic service for my
> internet access. In the past ten days, I bought a new Core-2 Intel
> something-or-other, and was going to sell the Celeron to my brother in law.
> While removing my files, the mouse started acting up, and I jumped through
> all kinds of hoops trying to get the machine to work, I finally bought
> another Core 2 something-or-other for my BIL.
>
> I found that the Celeron machine now works flawlessly for days and days, but
> I did not realize the wireless adaptor was a key. I installed a new wireless
> adaptor -- different from the original one -- and the problems began again
> within minutes. Sometimes the machine will lock up on the Desktop while
> booting, other times it will boot okay but lock up a while later. In any
> case, it always locks up in less than about 20 minutes. The PC is completely
> stripped right now, it has a keyboard, mouse, and monitor only. No printer
> or any other peripheral, including CD drive or 3.5" floppy. From the view of
> the power supply, there is only a motherboard, mouse, keyboard, and monitor.
>
> When the wireless adaptor is installed into any of the 3 PCI ports, the
> computer locks up.
>
> Is this a power supply issue?


Do you have driver software for the wireless device?

--
"Fire up a colortini, sit back, relax, and watch the pictures, now,
as they fly through the air."
Tom Snyder

Jeff Strickland 08-07-2007 04:14 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 

"witfal" <nospam@all4.me> wrote in message
news:f9air1$u0s$1@news.albasani.net...
>>
>> Is this a power supply issue?

>
> It sounds like an IRQ problem. The other PCI devices in your machine do
> not like the wireless adapter. Have you
> also added any other PCI cards, new OR replacements, to your box recently?
> Also check the wireless adapter
> manufacturer's site for updated drivers which may address the issue.
>


No, nothing new. Yes, I checked for updates. The original adaptor (NetGear)
and the new one (D-Link) are both doing the same thing.




> When the box locks up, can you get any reaction from the Windows key on
> your keyboard?
>


No, no action from any of the keys.

The (before I started having troubles) was a USB based wireless mouse,
powered by a PCI-based USB 2.0 adaptor. I removed that adaptor and reverted
to a PS2 mouse. There was no change to the behavior until I removed the
wireless adaptor (NetGear), at which point (or some point soon thereafter)
the USB card was reinstalled and the machine worked okay until the D-link
adaptor was installed. Today, all adaptors are removed, and the problem
comes and goes with the wireless adaptor that allows connection to the
wireless network at my house.



> Kinda tough diagnosing remotely. That's all I can think of right now.
>


It's all I can think of too, and I'm not remote ...






Jeff Strickland 08-07-2007 04:14 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 

"witfal" <nospam@all4.me> wrote in message
news:f9air1$u0s$1@news.albasani.net...
>>
>> Is this a power supply issue?

>
> It sounds like an IRQ problem. The other PCI devices in your machine do
> not like the wireless adapter. Have you
> also added any other PCI cards, new OR replacements, to your box recently?
> Also check the wireless adapter
> manufacturer's site for updated drivers which may address the issue.
>


No, nothing new. Yes, I checked for updates. The original adaptor (NetGear)
and the new one (D-Link) are both doing the same thing.




> When the box locks up, can you get any reaction from the Windows key on
> your keyboard?
>


No, no action from any of the keys.

The (before I started having troubles) was a USB based wireless mouse,
powered by a PCI-based USB 2.0 adaptor. I removed that adaptor and reverted
to a PS2 mouse. There was no change to the behavior until I removed the
wireless adaptor (NetGear), at which point (or some point soon thereafter)
the USB card was reinstalled and the machine worked okay until the D-link
adaptor was installed. Today, all adaptors are removed, and the problem
comes and goes with the wireless adaptor that allows connection to the
wireless network at my house.



> Kinda tough diagnosing remotely. That's all I can think of right now.
>


It's all I can think of too, and I'm not remote ...






Jeff Strickland 08-07-2007 04:14 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 

"witfal" <nospam@all4.me> wrote in message
news:f9air1$u0s$1@news.albasani.net...
>>
>> Is this a power supply issue?

>
> It sounds like an IRQ problem. The other PCI devices in your machine do
> not like the wireless adapter. Have you
> also added any other PCI cards, new OR replacements, to your box recently?
> Also check the wireless adapter
> manufacturer's site for updated drivers which may address the issue.
>


No, nothing new. Yes, I checked for updates. The original adaptor (NetGear)
and the new one (D-Link) are both doing the same thing.




> When the box locks up, can you get any reaction from the Windows key on
> your keyboard?
>


No, no action from any of the keys.

The (before I started having troubles) was a USB based wireless mouse,
powered by a PCI-based USB 2.0 adaptor. I removed that adaptor and reverted
to a PS2 mouse. There was no change to the behavior until I removed the
wireless adaptor (NetGear), at which point (or some point soon thereafter)
the USB card was reinstalled and the machine worked okay until the D-link
adaptor was installed. Today, all adaptors are removed, and the problem
comes and goes with the wireless adaptor that allows connection to the
wireless network at my house.



> Kinda tough diagnosing remotely. That's all I can think of right now.
>


It's all I can think of too, and I'm not remote ...






Jeff Strickland 08-07-2007 04:14 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 

"witfal" <nospam@all4.me> wrote in message
news:f9air1$u0s$1@news.albasani.net...
>>
>> Is this a power supply issue?

>
> It sounds like an IRQ problem. The other PCI devices in your machine do
> not like the wireless adapter. Have you
> also added any other PCI cards, new OR replacements, to your box recently?
> Also check the wireless adapter
> manufacturer's site for updated drivers which may address the issue.
>


No, nothing new. Yes, I checked for updates. The original adaptor (NetGear)
and the new one (D-Link) are both doing the same thing.




> When the box locks up, can you get any reaction from the Windows key on
> your keyboard?
>


No, no action from any of the keys.

The (before I started having troubles) was a USB based wireless mouse,
powered by a PCI-based USB 2.0 adaptor. I removed that adaptor and reverted
to a PS2 mouse. There was no change to the behavior until I removed the
wireless adaptor (NetGear), at which point (or some point soon thereafter)
the USB card was reinstalled and the machine worked okay until the D-link
adaptor was installed. Today, all adaptors are removed, and the problem
comes and goes with the wireless adaptor that allows connection to the
wireless network at my house.



> Kinda tough diagnosing remotely. That's all I can think of right now.
>


It's all I can think of too, and I'm not remote ...






Jeff Strickland 08-07-2007 04:19 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 

" dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
news:nps-76930B.15010007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article <DY3ui.18645$ug3.17126@trnddc06>,
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the
>> mouse
>> locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer freezes
>> at
>> the same time. In the grand scheme of chicken-and-egg, I don't know that
>> the
>> computer freezes and the mouse stops moving, or the mouse stops and the
>> computer freezes. I only know that the computer has stopped because the
>> mouse no longer responds.
>>
>> I have to physically shut the computer off by holding the power switch.
>>
>> After many hours of checking, I discovered that if I remove the wireless
>> adaptor, the computer works properly for days on end. When I install the
>> wireless adaptor, the computer will lock up within a few minutes.
>>
>> I'm certain that I have a hardware problem, and I think I have a power
>> supply issue on my hands. The wireless adaptor is a PCI bus device, and
>> I'm
>> thinking the bus power supply is teetering on the brink of collapse, and
>> the
>> adaptor pushes it over the edge.
>>
>> The motherboard is based on Celeron architecture, I forget the clock
>> speed
>> but 900 MHz sticks in my head.
>>
>> This machine worked for years without ever giving me a problem. I
>> installed
>> the wireless adaptor about two years ago and was a broadband bandit for
>> more
>> than a year before I broke down and bought fiber optic service for my
>> internet access. In the past ten days, I bought a new Core-2 Intel
>> something-or-other, and was going to sell the Celeron to my brother in
>> law.
>> While removing my files, the mouse started acting up, and I jumped
>> through
>> all kinds of hoops trying to get the machine to work, I finally bought
>> another Core 2 something-or-other for my BIL.
>>
>> I found that the Celeron machine now works flawlessly for days and days,
>> but
>> I did not realize the wireless adaptor was a key. I installed a new
>> wireless
>> adaptor -- different from the original one -- and the problems began
>> again
>> within minutes. Sometimes the machine will lock up on the Desktop while
>> booting, other times it will boot okay but lock up a while later. In any
>> case, it always locks up in less than about 20 minutes. The PC is
>> completely
>> stripped right now, it has a keyboard, mouse, and monitor only. No
>> printer
>> or any other peripheral, including CD drive or 3.5" floppy. From the view
>> of
>> the power supply, there is only a motherboard, mouse, keyboard, and
>> monitor.
>>
>> When the wireless adaptor is installed into any of the 3 PCI ports, the
>> computer locks up.
>>
>> Is this a power supply issue?

>
> Do you have driver software for the wireless device?
>



Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was working okay
for a very long time.

I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of the garage
and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are normally
unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until I turned it off
one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and now it
doesn't run.





Jeff Strickland 08-07-2007 04:19 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 

" dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
news:nps-76930B.15010007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article <DY3ui.18645$ug3.17126@trnddc06>,
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the
>> mouse
>> locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer freezes
>> at
>> the same time. In the grand scheme of chicken-and-egg, I don't know that
>> the
>> computer freezes and the mouse stops moving, or the mouse stops and the
>> computer freezes. I only know that the computer has stopped because the
>> mouse no longer responds.
>>
>> I have to physically shut the computer off by holding the power switch.
>>
>> After many hours of checking, I discovered that if I remove the wireless
>> adaptor, the computer works properly for days on end. When I install the
>> wireless adaptor, the computer will lock up within a few minutes.
>>
>> I'm certain that I have a hardware problem, and I think I have a power
>> supply issue on my hands. The wireless adaptor is a PCI bus device, and
>> I'm
>> thinking the bus power supply is teetering on the brink of collapse, and
>> the
>> adaptor pushes it over the edge.
>>
>> The motherboard is based on Celeron architecture, I forget the clock
>> speed
>> but 900 MHz sticks in my head.
>>
>> This machine worked for years without ever giving me a problem. I
>> installed
>> the wireless adaptor about two years ago and was a broadband bandit for
>> more
>> than a year before I broke down and bought fiber optic service for my
>> internet access. In the past ten days, I bought a new Core-2 Intel
>> something-or-other, and was going to sell the Celeron to my brother in
>> law.
>> While removing my files, the mouse started acting up, and I jumped
>> through
>> all kinds of hoops trying to get the machine to work, I finally bought
>> another Core 2 something-or-other for my BIL.
>>
>> I found that the Celeron machine now works flawlessly for days and days,
>> but
>> I did not realize the wireless adaptor was a key. I installed a new
>> wireless
>> adaptor -- different from the original one -- and the problems began
>> again
>> within minutes. Sometimes the machine will lock up on the Desktop while
>> booting, other times it will boot okay but lock up a while later. In any
>> case, it always locks up in less than about 20 minutes. The PC is
>> completely
>> stripped right now, it has a keyboard, mouse, and monitor only. No
>> printer
>> or any other peripheral, including CD drive or 3.5" floppy. From the view
>> of
>> the power supply, there is only a motherboard, mouse, keyboard, and
>> monitor.
>>
>> When the wireless adaptor is installed into any of the 3 PCI ports, the
>> computer locks up.
>>
>> Is this a power supply issue?

>
> Do you have driver software for the wireless device?
>



Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was working okay
for a very long time.

I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of the garage
and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are normally
unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until I turned it off
one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and now it
doesn't run.





Jeff Strickland 08-07-2007 04:19 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 

" dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
news:nps-76930B.15010007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article <DY3ui.18645$ug3.17126@trnddc06>,
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the
>> mouse
>> locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer freezes
>> at
>> the same time. In the grand scheme of chicken-and-egg, I don't know that
>> the
>> computer freezes and the mouse stops moving, or the mouse stops and the
>> computer freezes. I only know that the computer has stopped because the
>> mouse no longer responds.
>>
>> I have to physically shut the computer off by holding the power switch.
>>
>> After many hours of checking, I discovered that if I remove the wireless
>> adaptor, the computer works properly for days on end. When I install the
>> wireless adaptor, the computer will lock up within a few minutes.
>>
>> I'm certain that I have a hardware problem, and I think I have a power
>> supply issue on my hands. The wireless adaptor is a PCI bus device, and
>> I'm
>> thinking the bus power supply is teetering on the brink of collapse, and
>> the
>> adaptor pushes it over the edge.
>>
>> The motherboard is based on Celeron architecture, I forget the clock
>> speed
>> but 900 MHz sticks in my head.
>>
>> This machine worked for years without ever giving me a problem. I
>> installed
>> the wireless adaptor about two years ago and was a broadband bandit for
>> more
>> than a year before I broke down and bought fiber optic service for my
>> internet access. In the past ten days, I bought a new Core-2 Intel
>> something-or-other, and was going to sell the Celeron to my brother in
>> law.
>> While removing my files, the mouse started acting up, and I jumped
>> through
>> all kinds of hoops trying to get the machine to work, I finally bought
>> another Core 2 something-or-other for my BIL.
>>
>> I found that the Celeron machine now works flawlessly for days and days,
>> but
>> I did not realize the wireless adaptor was a key. I installed a new
>> wireless
>> adaptor -- different from the original one -- and the problems began
>> again
>> within minutes. Sometimes the machine will lock up on the Desktop while
>> booting, other times it will boot okay but lock up a while later. In any
>> case, it always locks up in less than about 20 minutes. The PC is
>> completely
>> stripped right now, it has a keyboard, mouse, and monitor only. No
>> printer
>> or any other peripheral, including CD drive or 3.5" floppy. From the view
>> of
>> the power supply, there is only a motherboard, mouse, keyboard, and
>> monitor.
>>
>> When the wireless adaptor is installed into any of the 3 PCI ports, the
>> computer locks up.
>>
>> Is this a power supply issue?

>
> Do you have driver software for the wireless device?
>



Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was working okay
for a very long time.

I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of the garage
and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are normally
unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until I turned it off
one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and now it
doesn't run.





Jeff Strickland 08-07-2007 04:19 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 

" dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
news:nps-76930B.15010007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article <DY3ui.18645$ug3.17126@trnddc06>,
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the
>> mouse
>> locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer freezes
>> at
>> the same time. In the grand scheme of chicken-and-egg, I don't know that
>> the
>> computer freezes and the mouse stops moving, or the mouse stops and the
>> computer freezes. I only know that the computer has stopped because the
>> mouse no longer responds.
>>
>> I have to physically shut the computer off by holding the power switch.
>>
>> After many hours of checking, I discovered that if I remove the wireless
>> adaptor, the computer works properly for days on end. When I install the
>> wireless adaptor, the computer will lock up within a few minutes.
>>
>> I'm certain that I have a hardware problem, and I think I have a power
>> supply issue on my hands. The wireless adaptor is a PCI bus device, and
>> I'm
>> thinking the bus power supply is teetering on the brink of collapse, and
>> the
>> adaptor pushes it over the edge.
>>
>> The motherboard is based on Celeron architecture, I forget the clock
>> speed
>> but 900 MHz sticks in my head.
>>
>> This machine worked for years without ever giving me a problem. I
>> installed
>> the wireless adaptor about two years ago and was a broadband bandit for
>> more
>> than a year before I broke down and bought fiber optic service for my
>> internet access. In the past ten days, I bought a new Core-2 Intel
>> something-or-other, and was going to sell the Celeron to my brother in
>> law.
>> While removing my files, the mouse started acting up, and I jumped
>> through
>> all kinds of hoops trying to get the machine to work, I finally bought
>> another Core 2 something-or-other for my BIL.
>>
>> I found that the Celeron machine now works flawlessly for days and days,
>> but
>> I did not realize the wireless adaptor was a key. I installed a new
>> wireless
>> adaptor -- different from the original one -- and the problems began
>> again
>> within minutes. Sometimes the machine will lock up on the Desktop while
>> booting, other times it will boot okay but lock up a while later. In any
>> case, it always locks up in less than about 20 minutes. The PC is
>> completely
>> stripped right now, it has a keyboard, mouse, and monitor only. No
>> printer
>> or any other peripheral, including CD drive or 3.5" floppy. From the view
>> of
>> the power supply, there is only a motherboard, mouse, keyboard, and
>> monitor.
>>
>> When the wireless adaptor is installed into any of the 3 PCI ports, the
>> computer locks up.
>>
>> Is this a power supply issue?

>
> Do you have driver software for the wireless device?
>



Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was working okay
for a very long time.

I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of the garage
and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are normally
unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until I turned it off
one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and now it
doesn't run.





witfal 08-07-2007 04:54 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
On 2007-08-07 13:14:12 -0700, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> said:

> The (before I started having troubles) was a USB based wireless mouse,
> powered by a PCI-based USB 2.0 adaptor. I removed that adaptor and
> reverted to a PS2 mouse. There was no change to the behavior until I
> removed the wireless adaptor (NetGear), at which point (or some point
> soon thereafter) the USB card was reinstalled and the machine worked
> okay until the D-link adaptor was installed. Today, all adaptors are
> removed, and the problem comes and goes with the wireless adaptor that
> allows connection to the wireless network at my house.
>
>
>
>> Kinda tough diagnosing remotely. That's all I can think of right now.
>>

>
> It's all I can think of too, and I'm not remote ...


One other possibility, though remote: Try disabling the wired network
connection before a lock-up.
If it still does it, I'd guess your original theory looks better; a
dying bus on the motherboard, most
likely a heat-sensitive component.

New MBs are pretty cheap now if you don't want the lastest and
greatest. Just re-use the rest
and do a clean re-install of WinBlows.


witfal 08-07-2007 04:54 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
On 2007-08-07 13:14:12 -0700, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> said:

> The (before I started having troubles) was a USB based wireless mouse,
> powered by a PCI-based USB 2.0 adaptor. I removed that adaptor and
> reverted to a PS2 mouse. There was no change to the behavior until I
> removed the wireless adaptor (NetGear), at which point (or some point
> soon thereafter) the USB card was reinstalled and the machine worked
> okay until the D-link adaptor was installed. Today, all adaptors are
> removed, and the problem comes and goes with the wireless adaptor that
> allows connection to the wireless network at my house.
>
>
>
>> Kinda tough diagnosing remotely. That's all I can think of right now.
>>

>
> It's all I can think of too, and I'm not remote ...


One other possibility, though remote: Try disabling the wired network
connection before a lock-up.
If it still does it, I'd guess your original theory looks better; a
dying bus on the motherboard, most
likely a heat-sensitive component.

New MBs are pretty cheap now if you don't want the lastest and
greatest. Just re-use the rest
and do a clean re-install of WinBlows.


witfal 08-07-2007 04:54 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
On 2007-08-07 13:14:12 -0700, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> said:

> The (before I started having troubles) was a USB based wireless mouse,
> powered by a PCI-based USB 2.0 adaptor. I removed that adaptor and
> reverted to a PS2 mouse. There was no change to the behavior until I
> removed the wireless adaptor (NetGear), at which point (or some point
> soon thereafter) the USB card was reinstalled and the machine worked
> okay until the D-link adaptor was installed. Today, all adaptors are
> removed, and the problem comes and goes with the wireless adaptor that
> allows connection to the wireless network at my house.
>
>
>
>> Kinda tough diagnosing remotely. That's all I can think of right now.
>>

>
> It's all I can think of too, and I'm not remote ...


One other possibility, though remote: Try disabling the wired network
connection before a lock-up.
If it still does it, I'd guess your original theory looks better; a
dying bus on the motherboard, most
likely a heat-sensitive component.

New MBs are pretty cheap now if you don't want the lastest and
greatest. Just re-use the rest
and do a clean re-install of WinBlows.


witfal 08-07-2007 04:54 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
On 2007-08-07 13:14:12 -0700, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> said:

> The (before I started having troubles) was a USB based wireless mouse,
> powered by a PCI-based USB 2.0 adaptor. I removed that adaptor and
> reverted to a PS2 mouse. There was no change to the behavior until I
> removed the wireless adaptor (NetGear), at which point (or some point
> soon thereafter) the USB card was reinstalled and the machine worked
> okay until the D-link adaptor was installed. Today, all adaptors are
> removed, and the problem comes and goes with the wireless adaptor that
> allows connection to the wireless network at my house.
>
>
>
>> Kinda tough diagnosing remotely. That's all I can think of right now.
>>

>
> It's all I can think of too, and I'm not remote ...


One other possibility, though remote: Try disabling the wired network
connection before a lock-up.
If it still does it, I'd guess your original theory looks better; a
dying bus on the motherboard, most
likely a heat-sensitive component.

New MBs are pretty cheap now if you don't want the lastest and
greatest. Just re-use the rest
and do a clean re-install of WinBlows.


Pink Freud 08-07-2007 04:55 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 19:44:35 +0000, Jeff Strickland wrote:

> I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the mouse
> locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer freezes at
> the same time.


Possibly:

o Interference from another IR or other wireless-style source

o Firewall/router not placed at the end of the chain to internet
connection

o IRQ conflicts, which can easily be brought on by:

o Power fluctuations


I'm having this same problem, due to power fluctuations in my area due
to downed lines and the cleanup efforts. IF your power backup/surge
protector goes off, there should be a log of when and why it shut down or
reacted. Can't say where that log file is as I don't do Windoze.




PF




Pink Freud 08-07-2007 04:55 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 19:44:35 +0000, Jeff Strickland wrote:

> I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the mouse
> locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer freezes at
> the same time.


Possibly:

o Interference from another IR or other wireless-style source

o Firewall/router not placed at the end of the chain to internet
connection

o IRQ conflicts, which can easily be brought on by:

o Power fluctuations


I'm having this same problem, due to power fluctuations in my area due
to downed lines and the cleanup efforts. IF your power backup/surge
protector goes off, there should be a log of when and why it shut down or
reacted. Can't say where that log file is as I don't do Windoze.




PF




Pink Freud 08-07-2007 04:55 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 19:44:35 +0000, Jeff Strickland wrote:

> I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the mouse
> locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer freezes at
> the same time.


Possibly:

o Interference from another IR or other wireless-style source

o Firewall/router not placed at the end of the chain to internet
connection

o IRQ conflicts, which can easily be brought on by:

o Power fluctuations


I'm having this same problem, due to power fluctuations in my area due
to downed lines and the cleanup efforts. IF your power backup/surge
protector goes off, there should be a log of when and why it shut down or
reacted. Can't say where that log file is as I don't do Windoze.




PF




Pink Freud 08-07-2007 04:55 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 19:44:35 +0000, Jeff Strickland wrote:

> I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the mouse
> locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer freezes at
> the same time.


Possibly:

o Interference from another IR or other wireless-style source

o Firewall/router not placed at the end of the chain to internet
connection

o IRQ conflicts, which can easily be brought on by:

o Power fluctuations


I'm having this same problem, due to power fluctuations in my area due
to downed lines and the cleanup efforts. IF your power backup/surge
protector goes off, there should be a log of when and why it shut down or
reacted. Can't say where that log file is as I don't do Windoze.




PF




dbu., 08-07-2007 05:06 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
In article <7t4ui.1865$MT3.1180@trnddc05>,
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:

> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
> news:nps-76930B.15010007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> > In article <DY3ui.18645$ug3.17126@trnddc06>,
> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the
> >> mouse
> >> locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer freezes
> >> at
> >> the same time. In the grand scheme of chicken-and-egg, I don't know that
> >> the
> >> computer freezes and the mouse stops moving, or the mouse stops and the
> >> computer freezes. I only know that the computer has stopped because the
> >> mouse no longer responds.
> >>
> >> I have to physically shut the computer off by holding the power switch.
> >>
> >> After many hours of checking, I discovered that if I remove the wireless
> >> adaptor, the computer works properly for days on end. When I install the
> >> wireless adaptor, the computer will lock up within a few minutes.
> >>
> >> I'm certain that I have a hardware problem, and I think I have a power
> >> supply issue on my hands. The wireless adaptor is a PCI bus device, and
> >> I'm
> >> thinking the bus power supply is teetering on the brink of collapse, and
> >> the
> >> adaptor pushes it over the edge.
> >>
> >> The motherboard is based on Celeron architecture, I forget the clock
> >> speed
> >> but 900 MHz sticks in my head.
> >>
> >> This machine worked for years without ever giving me a problem. I
> >> installed
> >> the wireless adaptor about two years ago and was a broadband bandit for
> >> more
> >> than a year before I broke down and bought fiber optic service for my
> >> internet access. In the past ten days, I bought a new Core-2 Intel
> >> something-or-other, and was going to sell the Celeron to my brother in
> >> law.
> >> While removing my files, the mouse started acting up, and I jumped
> >> through
> >> all kinds of hoops trying to get the machine to work, I finally bought
> >> another Core 2 something-or-other for my BIL.
> >>
> >> I found that the Celeron machine now works flawlessly for days and days,
> >> but
> >> I did not realize the wireless adaptor was a key. I installed a new
> >> wireless
> >> adaptor -- different from the original one -- and the problems began
> >> again
> >> within minutes. Sometimes the machine will lock up on the Desktop while
> >> booting, other times it will boot okay but lock up a while later. In any
> >> case, it always locks up in less than about 20 minutes. The PC is
> >> completely
> >> stripped right now, it has a keyboard, mouse, and monitor only. No
> >> printer
> >> or any other peripheral, including CD drive or 3.5" floppy. From the view
> >> of
> >> the power supply, there is only a motherboard, mouse, keyboard, and
> >> monitor.
> >>
> >> When the wireless adaptor is installed into any of the 3 PCI ports, the
> >> computer locks up.
> >>
> >> Is this a power supply issue?

> >
> > Do you have driver software for the wireless device?
> >

>
>
> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was working okay
> for a very long time.
>
> I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of the garage
> and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are normally
> unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until I turned it off
> one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and now it
> doesn't run.


You mean the wireless doesn't run, the computer otherwise works fine?

--
"Fire up a colortini, sit back, relax, and watch the pictures, now,
as they fly through the air."
Tom Snyder

dbu., 08-07-2007 05:06 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
In article <7t4ui.1865$MT3.1180@trnddc05>,
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:

> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
> news:nps-76930B.15010007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> > In article <DY3ui.18645$ug3.17126@trnddc06>,
> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the
> >> mouse
> >> locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer freezes
> >> at
> >> the same time. In the grand scheme of chicken-and-egg, I don't know that
> >> the
> >> computer freezes and the mouse stops moving, or the mouse stops and the
> >> computer freezes. I only know that the computer has stopped because the
> >> mouse no longer responds.
> >>
> >> I have to physically shut the computer off by holding the power switch.
> >>
> >> After many hours of checking, I discovered that if I remove the wireless
> >> adaptor, the computer works properly for days on end. When I install the
> >> wireless adaptor, the computer will lock up within a few minutes.
> >>
> >> I'm certain that I have a hardware problem, and I think I have a power
> >> supply issue on my hands. The wireless adaptor is a PCI bus device, and
> >> I'm
> >> thinking the bus power supply is teetering on the brink of collapse, and
> >> the
> >> adaptor pushes it over the edge.
> >>
> >> The motherboard is based on Celeron architecture, I forget the clock
> >> speed
> >> but 900 MHz sticks in my head.
> >>
> >> This machine worked for years without ever giving me a problem. I
> >> installed
> >> the wireless adaptor about two years ago and was a broadband bandit for
> >> more
> >> than a year before I broke down and bought fiber optic service for my
> >> internet access. In the past ten days, I bought a new Core-2 Intel
> >> something-or-other, and was going to sell the Celeron to my brother in
> >> law.
> >> While removing my files, the mouse started acting up, and I jumped
> >> through
> >> all kinds of hoops trying to get the machine to work, I finally bought
> >> another Core 2 something-or-other for my BIL.
> >>
> >> I found that the Celeron machine now works flawlessly for days and days,
> >> but
> >> I did not realize the wireless adaptor was a key. I installed a new
> >> wireless
> >> adaptor -- different from the original one -- and the problems began
> >> again
> >> within minutes. Sometimes the machine will lock up on the Desktop while
> >> booting, other times it will boot okay but lock up a while later. In any
> >> case, it always locks up in less than about 20 minutes. The PC is
> >> completely
> >> stripped right now, it has a keyboard, mouse, and monitor only. No
> >> printer
> >> or any other peripheral, including CD drive or 3.5" floppy. From the view
> >> of
> >> the power supply, there is only a motherboard, mouse, keyboard, and
> >> monitor.
> >>
> >> When the wireless adaptor is installed into any of the 3 PCI ports, the
> >> computer locks up.
> >>
> >> Is this a power supply issue?

> >
> > Do you have driver software for the wireless device?
> >

>
>
> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was working okay
> for a very long time.
>
> I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of the garage
> and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are normally
> unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until I turned it off
> one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and now it
> doesn't run.


You mean the wireless doesn't run, the computer otherwise works fine?

--
"Fire up a colortini, sit back, relax, and watch the pictures, now,
as they fly through the air."
Tom Snyder

dbu., 08-07-2007 05:06 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
In article <7t4ui.1865$MT3.1180@trnddc05>,
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:

> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
> news:nps-76930B.15010007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> > In article <DY3ui.18645$ug3.17126@trnddc06>,
> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the
> >> mouse
> >> locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer freezes
> >> at
> >> the same time. In the grand scheme of chicken-and-egg, I don't know that
> >> the
> >> computer freezes and the mouse stops moving, or the mouse stops and the
> >> computer freezes. I only know that the computer has stopped because the
> >> mouse no longer responds.
> >>
> >> I have to physically shut the computer off by holding the power switch.
> >>
> >> After many hours of checking, I discovered that if I remove the wireless
> >> adaptor, the computer works properly for days on end. When I install the
> >> wireless adaptor, the computer will lock up within a few minutes.
> >>
> >> I'm certain that I have a hardware problem, and I think I have a power
> >> supply issue on my hands. The wireless adaptor is a PCI bus device, and
> >> I'm
> >> thinking the bus power supply is teetering on the brink of collapse, and
> >> the
> >> adaptor pushes it over the edge.
> >>
> >> The motherboard is based on Celeron architecture, I forget the clock
> >> speed
> >> but 900 MHz sticks in my head.
> >>
> >> This machine worked for years without ever giving me a problem. I
> >> installed
> >> the wireless adaptor about two years ago and was a broadband bandit for
> >> more
> >> than a year before I broke down and bought fiber optic service for my
> >> internet access. In the past ten days, I bought a new Core-2 Intel
> >> something-or-other, and was going to sell the Celeron to my brother in
> >> law.
> >> While removing my files, the mouse started acting up, and I jumped
> >> through
> >> all kinds of hoops trying to get the machine to work, I finally bought
> >> another Core 2 something-or-other for my BIL.
> >>
> >> I found that the Celeron machine now works flawlessly for days and days,
> >> but
> >> I did not realize the wireless adaptor was a key. I installed a new
> >> wireless
> >> adaptor -- different from the original one -- and the problems began
> >> again
> >> within minutes. Sometimes the machine will lock up on the Desktop while
> >> booting, other times it will boot okay but lock up a while later. In any
> >> case, it always locks up in less than about 20 minutes. The PC is
> >> completely
> >> stripped right now, it has a keyboard, mouse, and monitor only. No
> >> printer
> >> or any other peripheral, including CD drive or 3.5" floppy. From the view
> >> of
> >> the power supply, there is only a motherboard, mouse, keyboard, and
> >> monitor.
> >>
> >> When the wireless adaptor is installed into any of the 3 PCI ports, the
> >> computer locks up.
> >>
> >> Is this a power supply issue?

> >
> > Do you have driver software for the wireless device?
> >

>
>
> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was working okay
> for a very long time.
>
> I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of the garage
> and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are normally
> unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until I turned it off
> one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and now it
> doesn't run.


You mean the wireless doesn't run, the computer otherwise works fine?

--
"Fire up a colortini, sit back, relax, and watch the pictures, now,
as they fly through the air."
Tom Snyder

dbu., 08-07-2007 05:06 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
In article <7t4ui.1865$MT3.1180@trnddc05>,
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:

> " dbu.," <nps@alllegal.com> wrote in message
> news:nps-76930B.15010007082007@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> > In article <DY3ui.18645$ug3.17126@trnddc06>,
> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >> I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the
> >> mouse
> >> locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer freezes
> >> at
> >> the same time. In the grand scheme of chicken-and-egg, I don't know that
> >> the
> >> computer freezes and the mouse stops moving, or the mouse stops and the
> >> computer freezes. I only know that the computer has stopped because the
> >> mouse no longer responds.
> >>
> >> I have to physically shut the computer off by holding the power switch.
> >>
> >> After many hours of checking, I discovered that if I remove the wireless
> >> adaptor, the computer works properly for days on end. When I install the
> >> wireless adaptor, the computer will lock up within a few minutes.
> >>
> >> I'm certain that I have a hardware problem, and I think I have a power
> >> supply issue on my hands. The wireless adaptor is a PCI bus device, and
> >> I'm
> >> thinking the bus power supply is teetering on the brink of collapse, and
> >> the
> >> adaptor pushes it over the edge.
> >>
> >> The motherboard is based on Celeron architecture, I forget the clock
> >> speed
> >> but 900 MHz sticks in my head.
> >>
> >> This machine worked for years without ever giving me a problem. I
> >> installed
> >> the wireless adaptor about two years ago and was a broadband bandit for
> >> more
> >> than a year before I broke down and bought fiber optic service for my
> >> internet access. In the past ten days, I bought a new Core-2 Intel
> >> something-or-other, and was going to sell the Celeron to my brother in
> >> law.
> >> While removing my files, the mouse started acting up, and I jumped
> >> through
> >> all kinds of hoops trying to get the machine to work, I finally bought
> >> another Core 2 something-or-other for my BIL.
> >>
> >> I found that the Celeron machine now works flawlessly for days and days,
> >> but
> >> I did not realize the wireless adaptor was a key. I installed a new
> >> wireless
> >> adaptor -- different from the original one -- and the problems began
> >> again
> >> within minutes. Sometimes the machine will lock up on the Desktop while
> >> booting, other times it will boot okay but lock up a while later. In any
> >> case, it always locks up in less than about 20 minutes. The PC is
> >> completely
> >> stripped right now, it has a keyboard, mouse, and monitor only. No
> >> printer
> >> or any other peripheral, including CD drive or 3.5" floppy. From the view
> >> of
> >> the power supply, there is only a motherboard, mouse, keyboard, and
> >> monitor.
> >>
> >> When the wireless adaptor is installed into any of the 3 PCI ports, the
> >> computer locks up.
> >>
> >> Is this a power supply issue?

> >
> > Do you have driver software for the wireless device?
> >

>
>
> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was working okay
> for a very long time.
>
> I realize that my problem is sorta like, I pushed the car out of the garage
> and now it won't start, where pushing it and starting it are normally
> unrelated activities, but this computer worked okay until I turned it off
> one day and moved it to another table and started it up again, and now it
> doesn't run.


You mean the wireless doesn't run, the computer otherwise works fine?

--
"Fire up a colortini, sit back, relax, and watch the pictures, now,
as they fly through the air."
Tom Snyder

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 08-07-2007 05:22 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
I'm sure you've run Ad-aware for a malicious PIN harvester, that's
usually the reason for the conflict:
http://www.lavasoft.com/products/ad_aware_free.php
I had to give up on a Problem like yours after I installed all the
Windows XP Pro upgrades, Explorer 7, that required a new, longer password
for my Linksys Router. By the time I figured that out, a hacker had lock in
use the wireless from: 169.254.106.67 which jammed my ------.net and
machine. So, I just turn it off with that button we have on the front, and
used my network cable for that machine. If that's your problem just double
click on the wireless icon in your tray, and there will be the strange
numbers, that have noting to do with your connections.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:DY3ui.18645$ug3.17126@trnddc06...
> I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the mouse
> locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer freezes at
> the same time. In the grand scheme of chicken-and-egg, I don't know that

the
> computer freezes and the mouse stops moving, or the mouse stops and the
> computer freezes. I only know that the computer has stopped because the
> mouse no longer responds.
>
> I have to physically shut the computer off by holding the power switch.
>
> After many hours of checking, I discovered that if I remove the wireless
> adaptor, the computer works properly for days on end. When I install the
> wireless adaptor, the computer will lock up within a few minutes.
>
> I'm certain that I have a hardware problem, and I think I have a power
> supply issue on my hands. The wireless adaptor is a PCI bus device, and

I'm
> thinking the bus power supply is teetering on the brink of collapse, and

the
> adaptor pushes it over the edge.
>
> The motherboard is based on Celeron architecture, I forget the clock speed
> but 900 MHz sticks in my head.
>
> This machine worked for years without ever giving me a problem. I

installed
> the wireless adaptor about two years ago and was a broadband bandit for

more
> than a year before I broke down and bought fiber optic service for my
> internet access. In the past ten days, I bought a new Core-2 Intel
> something-or-other, and was going to sell the Celeron to my brother in

law.
> While removing my files, the mouse started acting up, and I jumped through
> all kinds of hoops trying to get the machine to work, I finally bought
> another Core 2 something-or-other for my BIL.
>
> I found that the Celeron machine now works flawlessly for days and days,

but
> I did not realize the wireless adaptor was a key. I installed a new

wireless
> adaptor -- different from the original one -- and the problems began again
> within minutes. Sometimes the machine will lock up on the Desktop while
> booting, other times it will boot okay but lock up a while later. In any
> case, it always locks up in less than about 20 minutes. The PC is

completely
> stripped right now, it has a keyboard, mouse, and monitor only. No printer
> or any other peripheral, including CD drive or 3.5" floppy. From the view

of
> the power supply, there is only a motherboard, mouse, keyboard, and

monitor.
>
> When the wireless adaptor is installed into any of the 3 PCI ports, the
> computer locks up.
>
> Is this a power supply issue?
>
>
>
>
>




--
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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 08-07-2007 05:22 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
I'm sure you've run Ad-aware for a malicious PIN harvester, that's
usually the reason for the conflict:
http://www.lavasoft.com/products/ad_aware_free.php
I had to give up on a Problem like yours after I installed all the
Windows XP Pro upgrades, Explorer 7, that required a new, longer password
for my Linksys Router. By the time I figured that out, a hacker had lock in
use the wireless from: 169.254.106.67 which jammed my ------.net and
machine. So, I just turn it off with that button we have on the front, and
used my network cable for that machine. If that's your problem just double
click on the wireless icon in your tray, and there will be the strange
numbers, that have noting to do with your connections.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:DY3ui.18645$ug3.17126@trnddc06...
> I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the mouse
> locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer freezes at
> the same time. In the grand scheme of chicken-and-egg, I don't know that

the
> computer freezes and the mouse stops moving, or the mouse stops and the
> computer freezes. I only know that the computer has stopped because the
> mouse no longer responds.
>
> I have to physically shut the computer off by holding the power switch.
>
> After many hours of checking, I discovered that if I remove the wireless
> adaptor, the computer works properly for days on end. When I install the
> wireless adaptor, the computer will lock up within a few minutes.
>
> I'm certain that I have a hardware problem, and I think I have a power
> supply issue on my hands. The wireless adaptor is a PCI bus device, and

I'm
> thinking the bus power supply is teetering on the brink of collapse, and

the
> adaptor pushes it over the edge.
>
> The motherboard is based on Celeron architecture, I forget the clock speed
> but 900 MHz sticks in my head.
>
> This machine worked for years without ever giving me a problem. I

installed
> the wireless adaptor about two years ago and was a broadband bandit for

more
> than a year before I broke down and bought fiber optic service for my
> internet access. In the past ten days, I bought a new Core-2 Intel
> something-or-other, and was going to sell the Celeron to my brother in

law.
> While removing my files, the mouse started acting up, and I jumped through
> all kinds of hoops trying to get the machine to work, I finally bought
> another Core 2 something-or-other for my BIL.
>
> I found that the Celeron machine now works flawlessly for days and days,

but
> I did not realize the wireless adaptor was a key. I installed a new

wireless
> adaptor -- different from the original one -- and the problems began again
> within minutes. Sometimes the machine will lock up on the Desktop while
> booting, other times it will boot okay but lock up a while later. In any
> case, it always locks up in less than about 20 minutes. The PC is

completely
> stripped right now, it has a keyboard, mouse, and monitor only. No printer
> or any other peripheral, including CD drive or 3.5" floppy. From the view

of
> the power supply, there is only a motherboard, mouse, keyboard, and

monitor.
>
> When the wireless adaptor is installed into any of the 3 PCI ports, the
> computer locks up.
>
> Is this a power supply issue?
>
>
>
>
>




--
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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 08-07-2007 05:22 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
I'm sure you've run Ad-aware for a malicious PIN harvester, that's
usually the reason for the conflict:
http://www.lavasoft.com/products/ad_aware_free.php
I had to give up on a Problem like yours after I installed all the
Windows XP Pro upgrades, Explorer 7, that required a new, longer password
for my Linksys Router. By the time I figured that out, a hacker had lock in
use the wireless from: 169.254.106.67 which jammed my ------.net and
machine. So, I just turn it off with that button we have on the front, and
used my network cable for that machine. If that's your problem just double
click on the wireless icon in your tray, and there will be the strange
numbers, that have noting to do with your connections.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:DY3ui.18645$ug3.17126@trnddc06...
> I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the mouse
> locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer freezes at
> the same time. In the grand scheme of chicken-and-egg, I don't know that

the
> computer freezes and the mouse stops moving, or the mouse stops and the
> computer freezes. I only know that the computer has stopped because the
> mouse no longer responds.
>
> I have to physically shut the computer off by holding the power switch.
>
> After many hours of checking, I discovered that if I remove the wireless
> adaptor, the computer works properly for days on end. When I install the
> wireless adaptor, the computer will lock up within a few minutes.
>
> I'm certain that I have a hardware problem, and I think I have a power
> supply issue on my hands. The wireless adaptor is a PCI bus device, and

I'm
> thinking the bus power supply is teetering on the brink of collapse, and

the
> adaptor pushes it over the edge.
>
> The motherboard is based on Celeron architecture, I forget the clock speed
> but 900 MHz sticks in my head.
>
> This machine worked for years without ever giving me a problem. I

installed
> the wireless adaptor about two years ago and was a broadband bandit for

more
> than a year before I broke down and bought fiber optic service for my
> internet access. In the past ten days, I bought a new Core-2 Intel
> something-or-other, and was going to sell the Celeron to my brother in

law.
> While removing my files, the mouse started acting up, and I jumped through
> all kinds of hoops trying to get the machine to work, I finally bought
> another Core 2 something-or-other for my BIL.
>
> I found that the Celeron machine now works flawlessly for days and days,

but
> I did not realize the wireless adaptor was a key. I installed a new

wireless
> adaptor -- different from the original one -- and the problems began again
> within minutes. Sometimes the machine will lock up on the Desktop while
> booting, other times it will boot okay but lock up a while later. In any
> case, it always locks up in less than about 20 minutes. The PC is

completely
> stripped right now, it has a keyboard, mouse, and monitor only. No printer
> or any other peripheral, including CD drive or 3.5" floppy. From the view

of
> the power supply, there is only a motherboard, mouse, keyboard, and

monitor.
>
> When the wireless adaptor is installed into any of the 3 PCI ports, the
> computer locks up.
>
> Is this a power supply issue?
>
>
>
>
>




--
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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 08-07-2007 05:22 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
I'm sure you've run Ad-aware for a malicious PIN harvester, that's
usually the reason for the conflict:
http://www.lavasoft.com/products/ad_aware_free.php
I had to give up on a Problem like yours after I installed all the
Windows XP Pro upgrades, Explorer 7, that required a new, longer password
for my Linksys Router. By the time I figured that out, a hacker had lock in
use the wireless from: 169.254.106.67 which jammed my ------.net and
machine. So, I just turn it off with that button we have on the front, and
used my network cable for that machine. If that's your problem just double
click on the wireless icon in your tray, and there will be the strange
numbers, that have noting to do with your connections.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:DY3ui.18645$ug3.17126@trnddc06...
> I have a PC that was running okay, but developed a problem where the mouse
> locks up -- stops moving -- and the entire rest of the computer freezes at
> the same time. In the grand scheme of chicken-and-egg, I don't know that

the
> computer freezes and the mouse stops moving, or the mouse stops and the
> computer freezes. I only know that the computer has stopped because the
> mouse no longer responds.
>
> I have to physically shut the computer off by holding the power switch.
>
> After many hours of checking, I discovered that if I remove the wireless
> adaptor, the computer works properly for days on end. When I install the
> wireless adaptor, the computer will lock up within a few minutes.
>
> I'm certain that I have a hardware problem, and I think I have a power
> supply issue on my hands. The wireless adaptor is a PCI bus device, and

I'm
> thinking the bus power supply is teetering on the brink of collapse, and

the
> adaptor pushes it over the edge.
>
> The motherboard is based on Celeron architecture, I forget the clock speed
> but 900 MHz sticks in my head.
>
> This machine worked for years without ever giving me a problem. I

installed
> the wireless adaptor about two years ago and was a broadband bandit for

more
> than a year before I broke down and bought fiber optic service for my
> internet access. In the past ten days, I bought a new Core-2 Intel
> something-or-other, and was going to sell the Celeron to my brother in

law.
> While removing my files, the mouse started acting up, and I jumped through
> all kinds of hoops trying to get the machine to work, I finally bought
> another Core 2 something-or-other for my BIL.
>
> I found that the Celeron machine now works flawlessly for days and days,

but
> I did not realize the wireless adaptor was a key. I installed a new

wireless
> adaptor -- different from the original one -- and the problems began again
> within minutes. Sometimes the machine will lock up on the Desktop while
> booting, other times it will boot okay but lock up a while later. In any
> case, it always locks up in less than about 20 minutes. The PC is

completely
> stripped right now, it has a keyboard, mouse, and monitor only. No printer
> or any other peripheral, including CD drive or 3.5" floppy. From the view

of
> the power supply, there is only a motherboard, mouse, keyboard, and

monitor.
>
> When the wireless adaptor is installed into any of the 3 PCI ports, the
> computer locks up.
>
> Is this a power supply issue?
>
>
>
>
>




--
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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 08-07-2007 05:28 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
This from the biggest loser of them all! The jealous, really jealous, I
can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic
psychopath liar hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net
24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca who's only way to get attention is to make
a fool of its self. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it
writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other perverts to no
one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions,
successes, manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard, and
loving Christian family. Committing forgery over many of my posts, proving
I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a
Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more
senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take
responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man.
That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's
the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic
psychopath forged up names?
You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same
paragraphs it fits so well!
But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca,
security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org,
admin@cox.net for forgery.
Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy
posted on an auto picture group at:
news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements,
but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on
Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and
that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the
United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just
too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave
it, so keep the f*ck out!
Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you!
YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and
someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant
with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Pink Freud" <psychokiller@terminal-analysis.org> wrote in message
news:P_4ui.41534$rX4.4962@pd7urf2no...
>
> Possibly:
>
> o Interference from another IR or other wireless-style source
>
> o Firewall/router not placed at the end of the chain to internet
> connection
>
> o IRQ conflicts, which can easily be brought on by:
>
> o Power fluctuations
>
>
> I'm having this same problem, due to power fluctuations in my area due
> to downed lines and the cleanup efforts. IF your power backup/surge
> protector goes off, there should be a log of when and why it shut down or
> reacted. Can't say where that log file is as I don't do Windoze.
>
>
>
>
> PF
>
>
>




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 08-07-2007 05:28 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
This from the biggest loser of them all! The jealous, really jealous, I
can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic
psychopath liar hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net
24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca who's only way to get attention is to make
a fool of its self. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it
writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other perverts to no
one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions,
successes, manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard, and
loving Christian family. Committing forgery over many of my posts, proving
I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a
Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more
senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take
responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man.
That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's
the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic
psychopath forged up names?
You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same
paragraphs it fits so well!
But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca,
security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org,
admin@cox.net for forgery.
Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy
posted on an auto picture group at:
news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements,
but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on
Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and
that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the
United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just
too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave
it, so keep the f*ck out!
Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you!
YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and
someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant
with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Pink Freud" <psychokiller@terminal-analysis.org> wrote in message
news:P_4ui.41534$rX4.4962@pd7urf2no...
>
> Possibly:
>
> o Interference from another IR or other wireless-style source
>
> o Firewall/router not placed at the end of the chain to internet
> connection
>
> o IRQ conflicts, which can easily be brought on by:
>
> o Power fluctuations
>
>
> I'm having this same problem, due to power fluctuations in my area due
> to downed lines and the cleanup efforts. IF your power backup/surge
> protector goes off, there should be a log of when and why it shut down or
> reacted. Can't say where that log file is as I don't do Windoze.
>
>
>
>
> PF
>
>
>




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 08-07-2007 05:28 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
This from the biggest loser of them all! The jealous, really jealous, I
can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic
psychopath liar hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net
24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca who's only way to get attention is to make
a fool of its self. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it
writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other perverts to no
one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions,
successes, manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard, and
loving Christian family. Committing forgery over many of my posts, proving
I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a
Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more
senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take
responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man.
That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's
the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic
psychopath forged up names?
You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same
paragraphs it fits so well!
But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca,
security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org,
admin@cox.net for forgery.
Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy
posted on an auto picture group at:
news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements,
but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on
Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and
that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the
United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just
too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave
it, so keep the f*ck out!
Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you!
YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and
someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant
with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Pink Freud" <psychokiller@terminal-analysis.org> wrote in message
news:P_4ui.41534$rX4.4962@pd7urf2no...
>
> Possibly:
>
> o Interference from another IR or other wireless-style source
>
> o Firewall/router not placed at the end of the chain to internet
> connection
>
> o IRQ conflicts, which can easily be brought on by:
>
> o Power fluctuations
>
>
> I'm having this same problem, due to power fluctuations in my area due
> to downed lines and the cleanup efforts. IF your power backup/surge
> protector goes off, there should be a log of when and why it shut down or
> reacted. Can't say where that log file is as I don't do Windoze.
>
>
>
>
> PF
>
>
>




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 08-07-2007 05:28 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
This from the biggest loser of them all! The jealous, really jealous, I
can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic
psychopath liar hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net
24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca who's only way to get attention is to make
a fool of its self. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it
writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other perverts to no
one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions,
successes, manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard, and
loving Christian family. Committing forgery over many of my posts, proving
I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a
Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more
senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take
responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man.
That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's
the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic
psychopath forged up names?
You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same
paragraphs it fits so well!
But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca,
security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org,
admin@cox.net for forgery.
Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy
posted on an auto picture group at:
news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements,
but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on
Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and
that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the
United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just
too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave
it, so keep the f*ck out!
Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you!
YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and
someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant
with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Pink Freud" <psychokiller@terminal-analysis.org> wrote in message
news:P_4ui.41534$rX4.4962@pd7urf2no...
>
> Possibly:
>
> o Interference from another IR or other wireless-style source
>
> o Firewall/router not placed at the end of the chain to internet
> connection
>
> o IRQ conflicts, which can easily be brought on by:
>
> o Power fluctuations
>
>
> I'm having this same problem, due to power fluctuations in my area due
> to downed lines and the cleanup efforts. IF your power backup/surge
> protector goes off, there should be a log of when and why it shut down or
> reacted. Can't say where that log file is as I don't do Windoze.
>
>
>
>
> PF
>
>
>




--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com


DougW 08-07-2007 05:30 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
Jeff Strickland wrote:

> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was
> working okay for a very long time.


Could be a windows update bit you and a driver is
actually hosing up your system. Wouldn't be the
first time.

I'd wade through removing all the drivers and
reinstalling them.

Also check the crash log.
IIRC it's here.
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Dr Watson

Happy bug hunting. :/

--
DougW




DougW 08-07-2007 05:30 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
Jeff Strickland wrote:

> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was
> working okay for a very long time.


Could be a windows update bit you and a driver is
actually hosing up your system. Wouldn't be the
first time.

I'd wade through removing all the drivers and
reinstalling them.

Also check the crash log.
IIRC it's here.
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Dr Watson

Happy bug hunting. :/

--
DougW




DougW 08-07-2007 05:30 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Computerj (PC) Troubles with PCI Buss
 
Jeff Strickland wrote:

> Yes. I have the drivers for all of the added stuff, and it was
> working okay for a very long time.


Could be a windows update bit you and a driver is
actually hosing up your system. Wouldn't be the
first time.

I'd wade through removing all the drivers and
reinstalling them.

Also check the crash log.
IIRC it's here.
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Dr Watson

Happy bug hunting. :/

--
DougW





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