Douglas Berry

Lo, many moons past, on Sat, 10 Apr 2004 16:06:31 +0000 (UTC), a
stranger called by some Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> came forth and told
this tale in alt.atheism

>Douglas Berry <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in
>news:j33g70tv1ht94n3q5fl5ngiheoj1opci8j@4ax.com :

>> No, you state that gays can already get married (infering that you
>> mean to members of the opposite ---.) This sort of restriction, based
>> on race, was struck down by the Supreme Court.
>
>Yet sexual behavior has nothing to do with race.

It's called precident. The precident has been set that marriage is a
fundamental civil right, which is protected by the 14th Amendment.

Sterile people can get married. Prisoners on death row can get
married. People in their 90s can get married. In three states you can
marry a 12 year old girl with her parent's permission. Tell me,
specifically, how same---- marriage will harm the institution of
marriage?
--

Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5

Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"

Douglas Berry

Lo, many moons past, on Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:03:56 -0400, a stranger
called by some "Mmhsb" <mymariashsb@sympatico.ca> came forth and told
this tale in alt.atheism

>Funny thing gays once said they had a disease and shouldn't be discriminated
>against cause they're born that way - now it seems the position is they are
>gay by choice and not born with the 'gene' or lack of.

Excuse me? It's the right-wingers who claim that being gay is an
illness. Being gay is some sort of genetic difference, or other form
of variant like being left handed.

>Bible says
>homosexuality is a Sin also that marriage is between a man & woman. So if
>you believe in God & the Bible - there you go.

When discussing the laws of the United States, you cannot call upon
the Bible as an authority. Read the First Amendment.

>If not it's still wrong -
>face it! The body was obviously designed for male & female --- hence
>opposite body parts --- so what's the argument about --- the proof is
>evident.

We are also designed to be hunter-gatherers in East Africa. Since we
are better than that, we've moved beyond a nomadic existance on the
veldt.

People are gay. In America, that fact cannot be used for
discrimination under the 14th Amendment. You don't have to like us
GLBT people. You are free to call us names, refuse to have us in your
churches, and gnash your teeth at every mention of a gay man oe woman.
But you cannot enshrine your hatred in law.
--

Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5

Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"

Douglas Berry

Lo, many moons past, on Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:03:56 -0400, a stranger
called by some "Mmhsb" <mymariashsb@sympatico.ca> came forth and told
this tale in alt.atheism

>Funny thing gays once said they had a disease and shouldn't be discriminated
>against cause they're born that way - now it seems the position is they are
>gay by choice and not born with the 'gene' or lack of.

Excuse me? It's the right-wingers who claim that being gay is an
illness. Being gay is some sort of genetic difference, or other form
of variant like being left handed.

>Bible says
>homosexuality is a Sin also that marriage is between a man & woman. So if
>you believe in God & the Bible - there you go.

When discussing the laws of the United States, you cannot call upon
the Bible as an authority. Read the First Amendment.

>If not it's still wrong -
>face it! The body was obviously designed for male & female --- hence
>opposite body parts --- so what's the argument about --- the proof is
>evident.

We are also designed to be hunter-gatherers in East Africa. Since we
are better than that, we've moved beyond a nomadic existance on the
veldt.

People are gay. In America, that fact cannot be used for
discrimination under the 14th Amendment. You don't have to like us
GLBT people. You are free to call us names, refuse to have us in your
churches, and gnash your teeth at every mention of a gay man oe woman.
But you cannot enshrine your hatred in law.
--

Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5

Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"

Douglas Berry

Lo, many moons past, on Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:03:56 -0400, a stranger
called by some "Mmhsb" <mymariashsb@sympatico.ca> came forth and told
this tale in alt.atheism

>Funny thing gays once said they had a disease and shouldn't be discriminated
>against cause they're born that way - now it seems the position is they are
>gay by choice and not born with the 'gene' or lack of.

Excuse me? It's the right-wingers who claim that being gay is an
illness. Being gay is some sort of genetic difference, or other form
of variant like being left handed.

>Bible says
>homosexuality is a Sin also that marriage is between a man & woman. So if
>you believe in God & the Bible - there you go.

When discussing the laws of the United States, you cannot call upon
the Bible as an authority. Read the First Amendment.

>If not it's still wrong -
>face it! The body was obviously designed for male & female --- hence
>opposite body parts --- so what's the argument about --- the proof is
>evident.

We are also designed to be hunter-gatherers in East Africa. Since we
are better than that, we've moved beyond a nomadic existance on the
veldt.

People are gay. In America, that fact cannot be used for
discrimination under the 14th Amendment. You don't have to like us
GLBT people. You are free to call us names, refuse to have us in your
churches, and gnash your teeth at every mention of a gay man oe woman.
But you cannot enshrine your hatred in law.
--

Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5

Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"

Douglas Berry

Lo, many moons past, on Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:03:56 -0400, a stranger
called by some "Mmhsb" <mymariashsb@sympatico.ca> came forth and told
this tale in alt.atheism

>Funny thing gays once said they had a disease and shouldn't be discriminated
>against cause they're born that way - now it seems the position is they are
>gay by choice and not born with the 'gene' or lack of.

Excuse me? It's the right-wingers who claim that being gay is an
illness. Being gay is some sort of genetic difference, or other form
of variant like being left handed.

>Bible says
>homosexuality is a Sin also that marriage is between a man & woman. So if
>you believe in God & the Bible - there you go.

When discussing the laws of the United States, you cannot call upon
the Bible as an authority. Read the First Amendment.

>If not it's still wrong -
>face it! The body was obviously designed for male & female --- hence
>opposite body parts --- so what's the argument about --- the proof is
>evident.

We are also designed to be hunter-gatherers in East Africa. Since we
are better than that, we've moved beyond a nomadic existance on the
veldt.

People are gay. In America, that fact cannot be used for
discrimination under the 14th Amendment. You don't have to like us
GLBT people. You are free to call us names, refuse to have us in your
churches, and gnash your teeth at every mention of a gay man oe woman.
But you cannot enshrine your hatred in law.
--

Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5

Ezekiel 13:20 "Wherefore thus saith the
Lord GOD; Behold, I am against your pillows"

Diogenes

Ray Fischer wrote:
> Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
>> The facts that homosexuality is legal harms society.
>
> Because we all know that when homophobic bigots murder and torture
> gays it cause all sorts of legal expenses in investigating and
> prosecuting the crimes.
>
> It'd be so much better if you could kill them without worrying about
> the law.

Yes. I can see where that would improve things. Thanks for the idea.

--
Diogenes

Diogenes

Ray Fischer wrote:
> Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
>> The facts that homosexuality is legal harms society.
>
> Because we all know that when homophobic bigots murder and torture
> gays it cause all sorts of legal expenses in investigating and
> prosecuting the crimes.
>
> It'd be so much better if you could kill them without worrying about
> the law.

Yes. I can see where that would improve things. Thanks for the idea.

--
Diogenes

Diogenes

Ray Fischer wrote:
> Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
>> The facts that homosexuality is legal harms society.
>
> Because we all know that when homophobic bigots murder and torture
> gays it cause all sorts of legal expenses in investigating and
> prosecuting the crimes.
>
> It'd be so much better if you could kill them without worrying about
> the law.

Yes. I can see where that would improve things. Thanks for the idea.

--
Diogenes

Diogenes

Ray Fischer wrote:
> Xomicron <xomicron@wp.pl> wrote:
>> The facts that homosexuality is legal harms society.
>
> Because we all know that when homophobic bigots murder and torture
> gays it cause all sorts of legal expenses in investigating and
> prosecuting the crimes.
>
> It'd be so much better if you could kill them without worrying about
> the law.

Yes. I can see where that would improve things. Thanks for the idea.

--
Diogenes

Diogenes

Douglas Berry wrote:
>
> When discussing the laws of the United States, you cannot call upon
> the Bible as an authority. Read the First Amendment.

Take your own advice. And, try to understand what it actually says.