[jeep2diesel] Deisel Jeep Conversions
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Re: [jeep2diesel] Deisel Jeep Conversions
On Mon, 31 May 2004 13:58:15 -0700, L.W.------ wrote:
> Just what do you think would happen to one of your injectors if you
> didn't change those giant fuel filters and lube finers.
Diesel fuel tends to keep more junk in suspension than gas, but either
way, both go through filters before being injected, and both would clog
their injectors if they weren't filtered. So... did you have a point, or
just loose your concentration?
> Maybe your diesette isn't hard to start. But, haven't you ever
> driven through a truck stop and noticed all the engines were running
> 24/7?
The most wear on a Diesel is in the starting phase. (same for gas) Those
trucks running overnight are doing it because its cheaper to just let the
engine run than to bother turning it off and running it through a start
phase from cold. Go ahead and laugh, because you'd be laughing at
yourself. The fact is that a Diesel is much closer to the perfect motor
than a gasoline. The perfect motor would be an Adiabatic, where no heat
is gained or lost by the system. A diesel at idle requires the same
air/fuel ratio as at power, and maintains a stasis requiring no
adjustment of fuel/air to run smoothly. A gasoline engine is unstable at
idle, and requires an increase of fuel to air, making it very inefficient
at idle, and difficult to maintain smoothly w/o constant adjustment.
So... those trucks idling away are barely sipping their fuel. That's why
they get left running.
-bob-
> Just what do you think would happen to one of your injectors if you
> didn't change those giant fuel filters and lube finers.
Diesel fuel tends to keep more junk in suspension than gas, but either
way, both go through filters before being injected, and both would clog
their injectors if they weren't filtered. So... did you have a point, or
just loose your concentration?
> Maybe your diesette isn't hard to start. But, haven't you ever
> driven through a truck stop and noticed all the engines were running
> 24/7?
The most wear on a Diesel is in the starting phase. (same for gas) Those
trucks running overnight are doing it because its cheaper to just let the
engine run than to bother turning it off and running it through a start
phase from cold. Go ahead and laugh, because you'd be laughing at
yourself. The fact is that a Diesel is much closer to the perfect motor
than a gasoline. The perfect motor would be an Adiabatic, where no heat
is gained or lost by the system. A diesel at idle requires the same
air/fuel ratio as at power, and maintains a stasis requiring no
adjustment of fuel/air to run smoothly. A gasoline engine is unstable at
idle, and requires an increase of fuel to air, making it very inefficient
at idle, and difficult to maintain smoothly w/o constant adjustment.
So... those trucks idling away are barely sipping their fuel. That's why
they get left running.
-bob-
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Re: [jeep2diesel] Deisel Jeep Conversions
On Mon, 31 May 2004 11:40:36 -0600, Jerry McG wrote:
> By 1982 everyone realized gas was still
> relatively cheap and that diesels sucked.
Actually, I feel that GM single-handedly gave the Diesel engine a bad name
by their stupid tactic of trying to convert a gas engine to diesel use.
> The CDI may run like the clappers, but the reputation of diesels in the USA
> was set in the outhouse years ago.
By General Motors cost cutting.
Diesels are much more favored in the rest of the world. And, I might
add... Diesels are MUCH SAFER than gasoline vehicles. (I could proove that
point by asking you to take your pick of which fuel you'd rather douse
yourself in while someone threw lit matches at you... assuming you had to
choose.) :P
-bob-
> By 1982 everyone realized gas was still
> relatively cheap and that diesels sucked.
Actually, I feel that GM single-handedly gave the Diesel engine a bad name
by their stupid tactic of trying to convert a gas engine to diesel use.
> The CDI may run like the clappers, but the reputation of diesels in the USA
> was set in the outhouse years ago.
By General Motors cost cutting.
Diesels are much more favored in the rest of the world. And, I might
add... Diesels are MUCH SAFER than gasoline vehicles. (I could proove that
point by asking you to take your pick of which fuel you'd rather douse
yourself in while someone threw lit matches at you... assuming you had to
choose.) :P
-bob-
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Re: [jeep2diesel] Deisel Jeep Conversions
On Mon, 31 May 2004 11:40:36 -0600, Jerry McG wrote:
> By 1982 everyone realized gas was still
> relatively cheap and that diesels sucked.
Actually, I feel that GM single-handedly gave the Diesel engine a bad name
by their stupid tactic of trying to convert a gas engine to diesel use.
> The CDI may run like the clappers, but the reputation of diesels in the USA
> was set in the outhouse years ago.
By General Motors cost cutting.
Diesels are much more favored in the rest of the world. And, I might
add... Diesels are MUCH SAFER than gasoline vehicles. (I could proove that
point by asking you to take your pick of which fuel you'd rather douse
yourself in while someone threw lit matches at you... assuming you had to
choose.) :P
-bob-
> By 1982 everyone realized gas was still
> relatively cheap and that diesels sucked.
Actually, I feel that GM single-handedly gave the Diesel engine a bad name
by their stupid tactic of trying to convert a gas engine to diesel use.
> The CDI may run like the clappers, but the reputation of diesels in the USA
> was set in the outhouse years ago.
By General Motors cost cutting.
Diesels are much more favored in the rest of the world. And, I might
add... Diesels are MUCH SAFER than gasoline vehicles. (I could proove that
point by asking you to take your pick of which fuel you'd rather douse
yourself in while someone threw lit matches at you... assuming you had to
choose.) :P
-bob-
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Re: [jeep2diesel] Deisel Jeep Conversions
On Mon, 31 May 2004 11:40:36 -0600, Jerry McG wrote:
> By 1982 everyone realized gas was still
> relatively cheap and that diesels sucked.
Actually, I feel that GM single-handedly gave the Diesel engine a bad name
by their stupid tactic of trying to convert a gas engine to diesel use.
> The CDI may run like the clappers, but the reputation of diesels in the USA
> was set in the outhouse years ago.
By General Motors cost cutting.
Diesels are much more favored in the rest of the world. And, I might
add... Diesels are MUCH SAFER than gasoline vehicles. (I could proove that
point by asking you to take your pick of which fuel you'd rather douse
yourself in while someone threw lit matches at you... assuming you had to
choose.) :P
-bob-
> By 1982 everyone realized gas was still
> relatively cheap and that diesels sucked.
Actually, I feel that GM single-handedly gave the Diesel engine a bad name
by their stupid tactic of trying to convert a gas engine to diesel use.
> The CDI may run like the clappers, but the reputation of diesels in the USA
> was set in the outhouse years ago.
By General Motors cost cutting.
Diesels are much more favored in the rest of the world. And, I might
add... Diesels are MUCH SAFER than gasoline vehicles. (I could proove that
point by asking you to take your pick of which fuel you'd rather douse
yourself in while someone threw lit matches at you... assuming you had to
choose.) :P
-bob-
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Re: [jeep2diesel] Deisel Jeep Conversions
On Mon, 31 May 2004 11:40:36 -0600, Jerry McG wrote:
> By 1982 everyone realized gas was still
> relatively cheap and that diesels sucked.
Actually, I feel that GM single-handedly gave the Diesel engine a bad name
by their stupid tactic of trying to convert a gas engine to diesel use.
> The CDI may run like the clappers, but the reputation of diesels in the USA
> was set in the outhouse years ago.
By General Motors cost cutting.
Diesels are much more favored in the rest of the world. And, I might
add... Diesels are MUCH SAFER than gasoline vehicles. (I could proove that
point by asking you to take your pick of which fuel you'd rather douse
yourself in while someone threw lit matches at you... assuming you had to
choose.) :P
-bob-
> By 1982 everyone realized gas was still
> relatively cheap and that diesels sucked.
Actually, I feel that GM single-handedly gave the Diesel engine a bad name
by their stupid tactic of trying to convert a gas engine to diesel use.
> The CDI may run like the clappers, but the reputation of diesels in the USA
> was set in the outhouse years ago.
By General Motors cost cutting.
Diesels are much more favored in the rest of the world. And, I might
add... Diesels are MUCH SAFER than gasoline vehicles. (I could proove that
point by asking you to take your pick of which fuel you'd rather douse
yourself in while someone threw lit matches at you... assuming you had to
choose.) :P
-bob-
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Re: [jeep2diesel] Deisel Jeep Conversions
For you to just blow over the size of your fuel filter, tells me
you've never even looked under your hood. Therefore. know nothing about
engines of any type.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"F. Robert Falbo" wrote:
>
> Diesel fuel tends to keep more junk in suspension than gas, but either
> way, both go through filters before being injected, and both would clog
> their injectors if they weren't filtered. So... did you have a point, or
> just loose your concentration?
>
> The most wear on a Diesel is in the starting phase. (same for gas) Those
> trucks running overnight are doing it because its cheaper to just let the
> engine run than to bother turning it off and running it through a start
> phase from cold. Go ahead and laugh, because you'd be laughing at
> yourself. The fact is that a Diesel is much closer to the perfect motor
> than a gasoline. The perfect motor would be an Adiabatic, where no heat
> is gained or lost by the system. A diesel at idle requires the same
> air/fuel ratio as at power, and maintains a stasis requiring no
> adjustment of fuel/air to run smoothly. A gasoline engine is unstable at
> idle, and requires an increase of fuel to air, making it very inefficient
> at idle, and difficult to maintain smoothly w/o constant adjustment.
> So... those trucks idling away are barely sipping their fuel. That's why
> they get left running.
>
> -bob-
you've never even looked under your hood. Therefore. know nothing about
engines of any type.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"F. Robert Falbo" wrote:
>
> Diesel fuel tends to keep more junk in suspension than gas, but either
> way, both go through filters before being injected, and both would clog
> their injectors if they weren't filtered. So... did you have a point, or
> just loose your concentration?
>
> The most wear on a Diesel is in the starting phase. (same for gas) Those
> trucks running overnight are doing it because its cheaper to just let the
> engine run than to bother turning it off and running it through a start
> phase from cold. Go ahead and laugh, because you'd be laughing at
> yourself. The fact is that a Diesel is much closer to the perfect motor
> than a gasoline. The perfect motor would be an Adiabatic, where no heat
> is gained or lost by the system. A diesel at idle requires the same
> air/fuel ratio as at power, and maintains a stasis requiring no
> adjustment of fuel/air to run smoothly. A gasoline engine is unstable at
> idle, and requires an increase of fuel to air, making it very inefficient
> at idle, and difficult to maintain smoothly w/o constant adjustment.
> So... those trucks idling away are barely sipping their fuel. That's why
> they get left running.
>
> -bob-
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Re: [jeep2diesel] Deisel Jeep Conversions
For you to just blow over the size of your fuel filter, tells me
you've never even looked under your hood. Therefore. know nothing about
engines of any type.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"F. Robert Falbo" wrote:
>
> Diesel fuel tends to keep more junk in suspension than gas, but either
> way, both go through filters before being injected, and both would clog
> their injectors if they weren't filtered. So... did you have a point, or
> just loose your concentration?
>
> The most wear on a Diesel is in the starting phase. (same for gas) Those
> trucks running overnight are doing it because its cheaper to just let the
> engine run than to bother turning it off and running it through a start
> phase from cold. Go ahead and laugh, because you'd be laughing at
> yourself. The fact is that a Diesel is much closer to the perfect motor
> than a gasoline. The perfect motor would be an Adiabatic, where no heat
> is gained or lost by the system. A diesel at idle requires the same
> air/fuel ratio as at power, and maintains a stasis requiring no
> adjustment of fuel/air to run smoothly. A gasoline engine is unstable at
> idle, and requires an increase of fuel to air, making it very inefficient
> at idle, and difficult to maintain smoothly w/o constant adjustment.
> So... those trucks idling away are barely sipping their fuel. That's why
> they get left running.
>
> -bob-
you've never even looked under your hood. Therefore. know nothing about
engines of any type.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"F. Robert Falbo" wrote:
>
> Diesel fuel tends to keep more junk in suspension than gas, but either
> way, both go through filters before being injected, and both would clog
> their injectors if they weren't filtered. So... did you have a point, or
> just loose your concentration?
>
> The most wear on a Diesel is in the starting phase. (same for gas) Those
> trucks running overnight are doing it because its cheaper to just let the
> engine run than to bother turning it off and running it through a start
> phase from cold. Go ahead and laugh, because you'd be laughing at
> yourself. The fact is that a Diesel is much closer to the perfect motor
> than a gasoline. The perfect motor would be an Adiabatic, where no heat
> is gained or lost by the system. A diesel at idle requires the same
> air/fuel ratio as at power, and maintains a stasis requiring no
> adjustment of fuel/air to run smoothly. A gasoline engine is unstable at
> idle, and requires an increase of fuel to air, making it very inefficient
> at idle, and difficult to maintain smoothly w/o constant adjustment.
> So... those trucks idling away are barely sipping their fuel. That's why
> they get left running.
>
> -bob-
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Re: [jeep2diesel] Deisel Jeep Conversions
For you to just blow over the size of your fuel filter, tells me
you've never even looked under your hood. Therefore. know nothing about
engines of any type.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"F. Robert Falbo" wrote:
>
> Diesel fuel tends to keep more junk in suspension than gas, but either
> way, both go through filters before being injected, and both would clog
> their injectors if they weren't filtered. So... did you have a point, or
> just loose your concentration?
>
> The most wear on a Diesel is in the starting phase. (same for gas) Those
> trucks running overnight are doing it because its cheaper to just let the
> engine run than to bother turning it off and running it through a start
> phase from cold. Go ahead and laugh, because you'd be laughing at
> yourself. The fact is that a Diesel is much closer to the perfect motor
> than a gasoline. The perfect motor would be an Adiabatic, where no heat
> is gained or lost by the system. A diesel at idle requires the same
> air/fuel ratio as at power, and maintains a stasis requiring no
> adjustment of fuel/air to run smoothly. A gasoline engine is unstable at
> idle, and requires an increase of fuel to air, making it very inefficient
> at idle, and difficult to maintain smoothly w/o constant adjustment.
> So... those trucks idling away are barely sipping their fuel. That's why
> they get left running.
>
> -bob-
you've never even looked under your hood. Therefore. know nothing about
engines of any type.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"F. Robert Falbo" wrote:
>
> Diesel fuel tends to keep more junk in suspension than gas, but either
> way, both go through filters before being injected, and both would clog
> their injectors if they weren't filtered. So... did you have a point, or
> just loose your concentration?
>
> The most wear on a Diesel is in the starting phase. (same for gas) Those
> trucks running overnight are doing it because its cheaper to just let the
> engine run than to bother turning it off and running it through a start
> phase from cold. Go ahead and laugh, because you'd be laughing at
> yourself. The fact is that a Diesel is much closer to the perfect motor
> than a gasoline. The perfect motor would be an Adiabatic, where no heat
> is gained or lost by the system. A diesel at idle requires the same
> air/fuel ratio as at power, and maintains a stasis requiring no
> adjustment of fuel/air to run smoothly. A gasoline engine is unstable at
> idle, and requires an increase of fuel to air, making it very inefficient
> at idle, and difficult to maintain smoothly w/o constant adjustment.
> So... those trucks idling away are barely sipping their fuel. That's why
> they get left running.
>
> -bob-
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Re: [jeep2diesel] Deisel Jeep Conversions
For you to just blow over the size of your fuel filter, tells me
you've never even looked under your hood. Therefore. know nothing about
engines of any type.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"F. Robert Falbo" wrote:
>
> Diesel fuel tends to keep more junk in suspension than gas, but either
> way, both go through filters before being injected, and both would clog
> their injectors if they weren't filtered. So... did you have a point, or
> just loose your concentration?
>
> The most wear on a Diesel is in the starting phase. (same for gas) Those
> trucks running overnight are doing it because its cheaper to just let the
> engine run than to bother turning it off and running it through a start
> phase from cold. Go ahead and laugh, because you'd be laughing at
> yourself. The fact is that a Diesel is much closer to the perfect motor
> than a gasoline. The perfect motor would be an Adiabatic, where no heat
> is gained or lost by the system. A diesel at idle requires the same
> air/fuel ratio as at power, and maintains a stasis requiring no
> adjustment of fuel/air to run smoothly. A gasoline engine is unstable at
> idle, and requires an increase of fuel to air, making it very inefficient
> at idle, and difficult to maintain smoothly w/o constant adjustment.
> So... those trucks idling away are barely sipping their fuel. That's why
> they get left running.
>
> -bob-
you've never even looked under your hood. Therefore. know nothing about
engines of any type.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"F. Robert Falbo" wrote:
>
> Diesel fuel tends to keep more junk in suspension than gas, but either
> way, both go through filters before being injected, and both would clog
> their injectors if they weren't filtered. So... did you have a point, or
> just loose your concentration?
>
> The most wear on a Diesel is in the starting phase. (same for gas) Those
> trucks running overnight are doing it because its cheaper to just let the
> engine run than to bother turning it off and running it through a start
> phase from cold. Go ahead and laugh, because you'd be laughing at
> yourself. The fact is that a Diesel is much closer to the perfect motor
> than a gasoline. The perfect motor would be an Adiabatic, where no heat
> is gained or lost by the system. A diesel at idle requires the same
> air/fuel ratio as at power, and maintains a stasis requiring no
> adjustment of fuel/air to run smoothly. A gasoline engine is unstable at
> idle, and requires an increase of fuel to air, making it very inefficient
> at idle, and difficult to maintain smoothly w/o constant adjustment.
> So... those trucks idling away are barely sipping their fuel. That's why
> they get left running.
>
> -bob-
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Re: [jeep2diesel] Deisel Jeep Conversions
On Mon, 31 May 2004 19:24:39 -0700, L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> For you to just blow over the size of your fuel filter, tells me
>you've never even looked under your hood. Therefore. know nothing about
>engines of any type.
....for you too blow over the fact that heavier weight fluids need
larger filters to still achive flow makes me think you may have never
changed yer own oil <g> If you have a point...please get to it,
because frankly your frothing rant over diesels is nothing short of
idiotic wioh your simnpleton logic and straw grasping...Do a search
for a late model diesel golfs for sale used....you won't find
many...they a great running cars that get incredible mileage. People
aren't selling them. Hell if you find one cheap in the NC area let me
know, my boss has been looking for a while. Right now he is
driving....yup a diesel mercedes. Clean running powerful smooth riding
sedan. Keep telling your self that they ain't worth a ---- when you
know damn well any decent running modern diesel could pull your rig in
half without even barely coming off idle. =-)
.....Gareth
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> For you to just blow over the size of your fuel filter, tells me
>you've never even looked under your hood. Therefore. know nothing about
>engines of any type.
....for you too blow over the fact that heavier weight fluids need
larger filters to still achive flow makes me think you may have never
changed yer own oil <g> If you have a point...please get to it,
because frankly your frothing rant over diesels is nothing short of
idiotic wioh your simnpleton logic and straw grasping...Do a search
for a late model diesel golfs for sale used....you won't find
many...they a great running cars that get incredible mileage. People
aren't selling them. Hell if you find one cheap in the NC area let me
know, my boss has been looking for a while. Right now he is
driving....yup a diesel mercedes. Clean running powerful smooth riding
sedan. Keep telling your self that they ain't worth a ---- when you
know damn well any decent running modern diesel could pull your rig in
half without even barely coming off idle. =-)
.....Gareth
