[jeep2diesel] Deisel Jeep Conversions
05-31-2004, 07:55 PM
#111
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Re: [jeep2diesel] Deisel Jeep Conversions
I tow my Jeep everywhere, and I noticed my Bronco gets the same
fuel mileage, with or with out it. So why don't you try your diesel?
Remember that little Volkswagen pick up? <ROTFLMAO>
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Mike wrote:
>
> Now why would I want todo a silly thing like that and get rid of the diesels
> main advantage over a gasoline engine, i.e. fuel efficiency?
fuel mileage, with or with out it. So why don't you try your diesel?
Remember that little Volkswagen pick up? <ROTFLMAO>
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike wrote:
>
> Now why would I want todo a silly thing like that and get rid of the diesels
> main advantage over a gasoline engine, i.e. fuel efficiency?
05-31-2004, 07:55 PM
#112
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Re: [jeep2diesel] Deisel Jeep Conversions
I tow my Jeep everywhere, and I noticed my Bronco gets the same
fuel mileage, with or with out it. So why don't you try your diesel?
Remember that little Volkswagen pick up? <ROTFLMAO>
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike wrote:
>
> Now why would I want todo a silly thing like that and get rid of the diesels
> main advantage over a gasoline engine, i.e. fuel efficiency?
fuel mileage, with or with out it. So why don't you try your diesel?
Remember that little Volkswagen pick up? <ROTFLMAO>
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike wrote:
>
> Now why would I want todo a silly thing like that and get rid of the diesels
> main advantage over a gasoline engine, i.e. fuel efficiency?
05-31-2004, 07:55 PM
#113
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Re: [jeep2diesel] Deisel Jeep Conversions
I tow my Jeep everywhere, and I noticed my Bronco gets the same
fuel mileage, with or with out it. So why don't you try your diesel?
Remember that little Volkswagen pick up? <ROTFLMAO>
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike wrote:
>
> Now why would I want todo a silly thing like that and get rid of the diesels
> main advantage over a gasoline engine, i.e. fuel efficiency?
fuel mileage, with or with out it. So why don't you try your diesel?
Remember that little Volkswagen pick up? <ROTFLMAO>
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike wrote:
>
> Now why would I want todo a silly thing like that and get rid of the diesels
> main advantage over a gasoline engine, i.e. fuel efficiency?
05-31-2004, 09:12 PM
#114
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Re: [jeep2diesel] Deisel Jeep Conversions
On Mon, 31 May 2004 23:57:38 +0100, "Mike"
<mas39spamfreezone@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> How much of that is for the gas and how much is for the taxes? Do you
>> think they won't charge taxes on the diesel fuel?
>
>yep, you're absolutely spot on. now let me see. my 4L cherokee auto does
>@18mpg.
>
>my wifes turbo diesel vectra does @ 46mpg.
>
>just a mo while I figure out if any money is being saved here.....
"British Columbia hosted the first four days of the tour, with stops
in 10 cities, including: Vancouver, Kelowna, Chilliwack, Vernon and
Kamloops. Local media and supporters came out to meet with the CTF
roadside campaign. Most were surprised and outraged to learn that on
average 42% of the price of a litre of gas is tax."
http://www.taxpayer.com/newsreleases/bc/May31-04.htm
<mas39spamfreezone@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> How much of that is for the gas and how much is for the taxes? Do you
>> think they won't charge taxes on the diesel fuel?
>
>yep, you're absolutely spot on. now let me see. my 4L cherokee auto does
>@18mpg.
>
>my wifes turbo diesel vectra does @ 46mpg.
>
>just a mo while I figure out if any money is being saved here.....
"British Columbia hosted the first four days of the tour, with stops
in 10 cities, including: Vancouver, Kelowna, Chilliwack, Vernon and
Kamloops. Local media and supporters came out to meet with the CTF
roadside campaign. Most were surprised and outraged to learn that on
average 42% of the price of a litre of gas is tax."
http://www.taxpayer.com/newsreleases/bc/May31-04.htm
05-31-2004, 09:12 PM
#115
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Re: [jeep2diesel] Deisel Jeep Conversions
On Mon, 31 May 2004 23:57:38 +0100, "Mike"
<mas39spamfreezone@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> How much of that is for the gas and how much is for the taxes? Do you
>> think they won't charge taxes on the diesel fuel?
>
>yep, you're absolutely spot on. now let me see. my 4L cherokee auto does
>@18mpg.
>
>my wifes turbo diesel vectra does @ 46mpg.
>
>just a mo while I figure out if any money is being saved here.....
"British Columbia hosted the first four days of the tour, with stops
in 10 cities, including: Vancouver, Kelowna, Chilliwack, Vernon and
Kamloops. Local media and supporters came out to meet with the CTF
roadside campaign. Most were surprised and outraged to learn that on
average 42% of the price of a litre of gas is tax."
http://www.taxpayer.com/newsreleases/bc/May31-04.htm
<mas39spamfreezone@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> How much of that is for the gas and how much is for the taxes? Do you
>> think they won't charge taxes on the diesel fuel?
>
>yep, you're absolutely spot on. now let me see. my 4L cherokee auto does
>@18mpg.
>
>my wifes turbo diesel vectra does @ 46mpg.
>
>just a mo while I figure out if any money is being saved here.....
"British Columbia hosted the first four days of the tour, with stops
in 10 cities, including: Vancouver, Kelowna, Chilliwack, Vernon and
Kamloops. Local media and supporters came out to meet with the CTF
roadside campaign. Most were surprised and outraged to learn that on
average 42% of the price of a litre of gas is tax."
http://www.taxpayer.com/newsreleases/bc/May31-04.htm
05-31-2004, 09:12 PM
#116
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Re: [jeep2diesel] Deisel Jeep Conversions
On Mon, 31 May 2004 23:57:38 +0100, "Mike"
<mas39spamfreezone@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> How much of that is for the gas and how much is for the taxes? Do you
>> think they won't charge taxes on the diesel fuel?
>
>yep, you're absolutely spot on. now let me see. my 4L cherokee auto does
>@18mpg.
>
>my wifes turbo diesel vectra does @ 46mpg.
>
>just a mo while I figure out if any money is being saved here.....
"British Columbia hosted the first four days of the tour, with stops
in 10 cities, including: Vancouver, Kelowna, Chilliwack, Vernon and
Kamloops. Local media and supporters came out to meet with the CTF
roadside campaign. Most were surprised and outraged to learn that on
average 42% of the price of a litre of gas is tax."
http://www.taxpayer.com/newsreleases/bc/May31-04.htm
<mas39spamfreezone@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> How much of that is for the gas and how much is for the taxes? Do you
>> think they won't charge taxes on the diesel fuel?
>
>yep, you're absolutely spot on. now let me see. my 4L cherokee auto does
>@18mpg.
>
>my wifes turbo diesel vectra does @ 46mpg.
>
>just a mo while I figure out if any money is being saved here.....
"British Columbia hosted the first four days of the tour, with stops
in 10 cities, including: Vancouver, Kelowna, Chilliwack, Vernon and
Kamloops. Local media and supporters came out to meet with the CTF
roadside campaign. Most were surprised and outraged to learn that on
average 42% of the price of a litre of gas is tax."
http://www.taxpayer.com/newsreleases/bc/May31-04.htm
05-31-2004, 09:12 PM
#117
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Re: [jeep2diesel] Deisel Jeep Conversions
On Mon, 31 May 2004 23:57:38 +0100, "Mike"
<mas39spamfreezone@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> How much of that is for the gas and how much is for the taxes? Do you
>> think they won't charge taxes on the diesel fuel?
>
>yep, you're absolutely spot on. now let me see. my 4L cherokee auto does
>@18mpg.
>
>my wifes turbo diesel vectra does @ 46mpg.
>
>just a mo while I figure out if any money is being saved here.....
"British Columbia hosted the first four days of the tour, with stops
in 10 cities, including: Vancouver, Kelowna, Chilliwack, Vernon and
Kamloops. Local media and supporters came out to meet with the CTF
roadside campaign. Most were surprised and outraged to learn that on
average 42% of the price of a litre of gas is tax."
http://www.taxpayer.com/newsreleases/bc/May31-04.htm
<mas39spamfreezone@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> How much of that is for the gas and how much is for the taxes? Do you
>> think they won't charge taxes on the diesel fuel?
>
>yep, you're absolutely spot on. now let me see. my 4L cherokee auto does
>@18mpg.
>
>my wifes turbo diesel vectra does @ 46mpg.
>
>just a mo while I figure out if any money is being saved here.....
"British Columbia hosted the first four days of the tour, with stops
in 10 cities, including: Vancouver, Kelowna, Chilliwack, Vernon and
Kamloops. Local media and supporters came out to meet with the CTF
roadside campaign. Most were surprised and outraged to learn that on
average 42% of the price of a litre of gas is tax."
http://www.taxpayer.com/newsreleases/bc/May31-04.htm
05-31-2004, 09:47 PM
#118
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Re: [jeep2diesel] Deisel Jeep Conversions
On Mon, 31 May 2004 13:58:15 -0700, L.W.------ wrote:
> Just what do you think would happen to one of your injectors if you
> didn't change those giant fuel filters and lube finers.
Diesel fuel tends to keep more junk in suspension than gas, but either
way, both go through filters before being injected, and both would clog
their injectors if they weren't filtered. So... did you have a point, or
just loose your concentration?
> Maybe your diesette isn't hard to start. But, haven't you ever
> driven through a truck stop and noticed all the engines were running
> 24/7?
The most wear on a Diesel is in the starting phase. (same for gas) Those
trucks running overnight are doing it because its cheaper to just let the
engine run than to bother turning it off and running it through a start
phase from cold. Go ahead and laugh, because you'd be laughing at
yourself. The fact is that a Diesel is much closer to the perfect motor
than a gasoline. The perfect motor would be an Adiabatic, where no heat
is gained or lost by the system. A diesel at idle requires the same
air/fuel ratio as at power, and maintains a stasis requiring no
adjustment of fuel/air to run smoothly. A gasoline engine is unstable at
idle, and requires an increase of fuel to air, making it very inefficient
at idle, and difficult to maintain smoothly w/o constant adjustment.
So... those trucks idling away are barely sipping their fuel. That's why
they get left running.
-bob-
> Just what do you think would happen to one of your injectors if you
> didn't change those giant fuel filters and lube finers.
Diesel fuel tends to keep more junk in suspension than gas, but either
way, both go through filters before being injected, and both would clog
their injectors if they weren't filtered. So... did you have a point, or
just loose your concentration?
> Maybe your diesette isn't hard to start. But, haven't you ever
> driven through a truck stop and noticed all the engines were running
> 24/7?
The most wear on a Diesel is in the starting phase. (same for gas) Those
trucks running overnight are doing it because its cheaper to just let the
engine run than to bother turning it off and running it through a start
phase from cold. Go ahead and laugh, because you'd be laughing at
yourself. The fact is that a Diesel is much closer to the perfect motor
than a gasoline. The perfect motor would be an Adiabatic, where no heat
is gained or lost by the system. A diesel at idle requires the same
air/fuel ratio as at power, and maintains a stasis requiring no
adjustment of fuel/air to run smoothly. A gasoline engine is unstable at
idle, and requires an increase of fuel to air, making it very inefficient
at idle, and difficult to maintain smoothly w/o constant adjustment.
So... those trucks idling away are barely sipping their fuel. That's why
they get left running.
-bob-
05-31-2004, 09:47 PM
#119
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Re: [jeep2diesel] Deisel Jeep Conversions
On Mon, 31 May 2004 13:58:15 -0700, L.W.------ wrote:
> Just what do you think would happen to one of your injectors if you
> didn't change those giant fuel filters and lube finers.
Diesel fuel tends to keep more junk in suspension than gas, but either
way, both go through filters before being injected, and both would clog
their injectors if they weren't filtered. So... did you have a point, or
just loose your concentration?
> Maybe your diesette isn't hard to start. But, haven't you ever
> driven through a truck stop and noticed all the engines were running
> 24/7?
The most wear on a Diesel is in the starting phase. (same for gas) Those
trucks running overnight are doing it because its cheaper to just let the
engine run than to bother turning it off and running it through a start
phase from cold. Go ahead and laugh, because you'd be laughing at
yourself. The fact is that a Diesel is much closer to the perfect motor
than a gasoline. The perfect motor would be an Adiabatic, where no heat
is gained or lost by the system. A diesel at idle requires the same
air/fuel ratio as at power, and maintains a stasis requiring no
adjustment of fuel/air to run smoothly. A gasoline engine is unstable at
idle, and requires an increase of fuel to air, making it very inefficient
at idle, and difficult to maintain smoothly w/o constant adjustment.
So... those trucks idling away are barely sipping their fuel. That's why
they get left running.
-bob-
> Just what do you think would happen to one of your injectors if you
> didn't change those giant fuel filters and lube finers.
Diesel fuel tends to keep more junk in suspension than gas, but either
way, both go through filters before being injected, and both would clog
their injectors if they weren't filtered. So... did you have a point, or
just loose your concentration?
> Maybe your diesette isn't hard to start. But, haven't you ever
> driven through a truck stop and noticed all the engines were running
> 24/7?
The most wear on a Diesel is in the starting phase. (same for gas) Those
trucks running overnight are doing it because its cheaper to just let the
engine run than to bother turning it off and running it through a start
phase from cold. Go ahead and laugh, because you'd be laughing at
yourself. The fact is that a Diesel is much closer to the perfect motor
than a gasoline. The perfect motor would be an Adiabatic, where no heat
is gained or lost by the system. A diesel at idle requires the same
air/fuel ratio as at power, and maintains a stasis requiring no
adjustment of fuel/air to run smoothly. A gasoline engine is unstable at
idle, and requires an increase of fuel to air, making it very inefficient
at idle, and difficult to maintain smoothly w/o constant adjustment.
So... those trucks idling away are barely sipping their fuel. That's why
they get left running.
-bob-
05-31-2004, 09:47 PM
#120
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Re: [jeep2diesel] Deisel Jeep Conversions
On Mon, 31 May 2004 13:58:15 -0700, L.W.------ wrote:
> Just what do you think would happen to one of your injectors if you
> didn't change those giant fuel filters and lube finers.
Diesel fuel tends to keep more junk in suspension than gas, but either
way, both go through filters before being injected, and both would clog
their injectors if they weren't filtered. So... did you have a point, or
just loose your concentration?
> Maybe your diesette isn't hard to start. But, haven't you ever
> driven through a truck stop and noticed all the engines were running
> 24/7?
The most wear on a Diesel is in the starting phase. (same for gas) Those
trucks running overnight are doing it because its cheaper to just let the
engine run than to bother turning it off and running it through a start
phase from cold. Go ahead and laugh, because you'd be laughing at
yourself. The fact is that a Diesel is much closer to the perfect motor
than a gasoline. The perfect motor would be an Adiabatic, where no heat
is gained or lost by the system. A diesel at idle requires the same
air/fuel ratio as at power, and maintains a stasis requiring no
adjustment of fuel/air to run smoothly. A gasoline engine is unstable at
idle, and requires an increase of fuel to air, making it very inefficient
at idle, and difficult to maintain smoothly w/o constant adjustment.
So... those trucks idling away are barely sipping their fuel. That's why
they get left running.
-bob-
> Just what do you think would happen to one of your injectors if you
> didn't change those giant fuel filters and lube finers.
Diesel fuel tends to keep more junk in suspension than gas, but either
way, both go through filters before being injected, and both would clog
their injectors if they weren't filtered. So... did you have a point, or
just loose your concentration?
> Maybe your diesette isn't hard to start. But, haven't you ever
> driven through a truck stop and noticed all the engines were running
> 24/7?
The most wear on a Diesel is in the starting phase. (same for gas) Those
trucks running overnight are doing it because its cheaper to just let the
engine run than to bother turning it off and running it through a start
phase from cold. Go ahead and laugh, because you'd be laughing at
yourself. The fact is that a Diesel is much closer to the perfect motor
than a gasoline. The perfect motor would be an Adiabatic, where no heat
is gained or lost by the system. A diesel at idle requires the same
air/fuel ratio as at power, and maintains a stasis requiring no
adjustment of fuel/air to run smoothly. A gasoline engine is unstable at
idle, and requires an increase of fuel to air, making it very inefficient
at idle, and difficult to maintain smoothly w/o constant adjustment.
So... those trucks idling away are barely sipping their fuel. That's why
they get left running.
-bob-
