Ya ready for diesel yet?
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
If it was going to happen anywhere it would be in rainy England. it
doesn't and hasn't. And if it did, the engine would _just quit_.
In a car (usually) no life threatening deal. In an airplane that's why
you have CARB HEAT.
Carburetor icing occurs because of the temperature and pressure drop
across the venturi. No venturi no carb ice. Carb ice is rare on street
driven cars because the underhood area gets hot and the carb is not on
the bottom of the engine like a piece of ---- Lycoming. It happens on
road-race cars because they use ducted air inlets, and remove the
underhood insulation and put holes in the hood, and use sidedraft SU
and Weber carbs on homemade tube intake manifolds. It happens on
airplanes because, the carb is on the bottom of the oil pan (Lyc) or on
a tube manifold hanging by the 'udder' (oil tank) (C*ntinental.)
doesn't and hasn't. And if it did, the engine would _just quit_.
In a car (usually) no life threatening deal. In an airplane that's why
you have CARB HEAT.
Carburetor icing occurs because of the temperature and pressure drop
across the venturi. No venturi no carb ice. Carb ice is rare on street
driven cars because the underhood area gets hot and the carb is not on
the bottom of the engine like a piece of ---- Lycoming. It happens on
road-race cars because they use ducted air inlets, and remove the
underhood insulation and put holes in the hood, and use sidedraft SU
and Weber carbs on homemade tube intake manifolds. It happens on
airplanes because, the carb is on the bottom of the oil pan (Lyc) or on
a tube manifold hanging by the 'udder' (oil tank) (C*ntinental.)
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
That's easy here.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Try to find a propane conversion kit for a car, that should tell
> you something.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Well, if you had propane, that wouldn't be a problem would it?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4323A8A9.BD7E410A@***.net...
> Try to find a propane conversion kit for a car, that should tell
> you something.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Well, if you had propane, that wouldn't be a problem would it?
Guest
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
That's easy here.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4323A8A9.BD7E410A@***.net...
> Try to find a propane conversion kit for a car, that should tell
> you something.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Well, if you had propane, that wouldn't be a problem would it?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4323A8A9.BD7E410A@***.net...
> Try to find a propane conversion kit for a car, that should tell
> you something.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Well, if you had propane, that wouldn't be a problem would it?
Guest
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
That's easy here.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4323A8A9.BD7E410A@***.net...
> Try to find a propane conversion kit for a car, that should tell
> you something.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Well, if you had propane, that wouldn't be a problem would it?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4323A8A9.BD7E410A@***.net...
> Try to find a propane conversion kit for a car, that should tell
> you something.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Well, if you had propane, that wouldn't be a problem would it?
Guest
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
That's easy here.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4323A8A9.BD7E410A@***.net...
> Try to find a propane conversion kit for a car, that should tell
> you something.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Well, if you had propane, that wouldn't be a problem would it?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4323A8A9.BD7E410A@***.net...
> Try to find a propane conversion kit for a car, that should tell
> you something.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Bret Ludwig wrote:
> >
> > Well, if you had propane, that wouldn't be a problem would it?
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
Brett has it spot on, Bill. If the vapourizer freezes, the engine stops
dead. However, this doesn't happen because you always start on petrol and
switch over once the radiator valve has opened.
That said, I did once start it on propane when it was below freezing outside
and it did freeze even with a 50/50 mix ( in a new radiator filled by my
good self only a week before).
I don't quite understand the fears over propane, given that we have got used
to carrying around 20 gallons of far more volatile petrol, which can ignite
from vapour a good 20' away from the source and explodes rather than burns.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126420287.983615.140410@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
<<snip>>
By The Way you
> may see the hot water lines trying to keep it from freezing and killing
> yet another. Imagine if you took off with pre-heating it?
This is just something that does not happen. No one in the propane
industry has ever heard of it. Ask Dave, has it happened in the humid
always raining UK yet even once? The Queen of England rides in a
propane burning Rolls Royce all the time. You think it would be allowed
if it was too dangerous?
If the vaporizer freezes up on the fuel side, due to a slug of water,
what happens is-the engine quits.
If you use 50/50 antifreeze like everyone does since WWII the propane
cannot freeze the coolant. The boiling point of propane is never below
the freeze point of 50/50 glycol water.
There are safety issues with propane. This is not one.
dead. However, this doesn't happen because you always start on petrol and
switch over once the radiator valve has opened.
That said, I did once start it on propane when it was below freezing outside
and it did freeze even with a 50/50 mix ( in a new radiator filled by my
good self only a week before).
I don't quite understand the fears over propane, given that we have got used
to carrying around 20 gallons of far more volatile petrol, which can ignite
from vapour a good 20' away from the source and explodes rather than burns.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126420287.983615.140410@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
<<snip>>
By The Way you
> may see the hot water lines trying to keep it from freezing and killing
> yet another. Imagine if you took off with pre-heating it?
This is just something that does not happen. No one in the propane
industry has ever heard of it. Ask Dave, has it happened in the humid
always raining UK yet even once? The Queen of England rides in a
propane burning Rolls Royce all the time. You think it would be allowed
if it was too dangerous?
If the vaporizer freezes up on the fuel side, due to a slug of water,
what happens is-the engine quits.
If you use 50/50 antifreeze like everyone does since WWII the propane
cannot freeze the coolant. The boiling point of propane is never below
the freeze point of 50/50 glycol water.
There are safety issues with propane. This is not one.
Guest
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
Brett has it spot on, Bill. If the vapourizer freezes, the engine stops
dead. However, this doesn't happen because you always start on petrol and
switch over once the radiator valve has opened.
That said, I did once start it on propane when it was below freezing outside
and it did freeze even with a 50/50 mix ( in a new radiator filled by my
good self only a week before).
I don't quite understand the fears over propane, given that we have got used
to carrying around 20 gallons of far more volatile petrol, which can ignite
from vapour a good 20' away from the source and explodes rather than burns.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126420287.983615.140410@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
<<snip>>
By The Way you
> may see the hot water lines trying to keep it from freezing and killing
> yet another. Imagine if you took off with pre-heating it?
This is just something that does not happen. No one in the propane
industry has ever heard of it. Ask Dave, has it happened in the humid
always raining UK yet even once? The Queen of England rides in a
propane burning Rolls Royce all the time. You think it would be allowed
if it was too dangerous?
If the vaporizer freezes up on the fuel side, due to a slug of water,
what happens is-the engine quits.
If you use 50/50 antifreeze like everyone does since WWII the propane
cannot freeze the coolant. The boiling point of propane is never below
the freeze point of 50/50 glycol water.
There are safety issues with propane. This is not one.
dead. However, this doesn't happen because you always start on petrol and
switch over once the radiator valve has opened.
That said, I did once start it on propane when it was below freezing outside
and it did freeze even with a 50/50 mix ( in a new radiator filled by my
good self only a week before).
I don't quite understand the fears over propane, given that we have got used
to carrying around 20 gallons of far more volatile petrol, which can ignite
from vapour a good 20' away from the source and explodes rather than burns.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126420287.983615.140410@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
<<snip>>
By The Way you
> may see the hot water lines trying to keep it from freezing and killing
> yet another. Imagine if you took off with pre-heating it?
This is just something that does not happen. No one in the propane
industry has ever heard of it. Ask Dave, has it happened in the humid
always raining UK yet even once? The Queen of England rides in a
propane burning Rolls Royce all the time. You think it would be allowed
if it was too dangerous?
If the vaporizer freezes up on the fuel side, due to a slug of water,
what happens is-the engine quits.
If you use 50/50 antifreeze like everyone does since WWII the propane
cannot freeze the coolant. The boiling point of propane is never below
the freeze point of 50/50 glycol water.
There are safety issues with propane. This is not one.
Guest
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
Brett has it spot on, Bill. If the vapourizer freezes, the engine stops
dead. However, this doesn't happen because you always start on petrol and
switch over once the radiator valve has opened.
That said, I did once start it on propane when it was below freezing outside
and it did freeze even with a 50/50 mix ( in a new radiator filled by my
good self only a week before).
I don't quite understand the fears over propane, given that we have got used
to carrying around 20 gallons of far more volatile petrol, which can ignite
from vapour a good 20' away from the source and explodes rather than burns.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126420287.983615.140410@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
<<snip>>
By The Way you
> may see the hot water lines trying to keep it from freezing and killing
> yet another. Imagine if you took off with pre-heating it?
This is just something that does not happen. No one in the propane
industry has ever heard of it. Ask Dave, has it happened in the humid
always raining UK yet even once? The Queen of England rides in a
propane burning Rolls Royce all the time. You think it would be allowed
if it was too dangerous?
If the vaporizer freezes up on the fuel side, due to a slug of water,
what happens is-the engine quits.
If you use 50/50 antifreeze like everyone does since WWII the propane
cannot freeze the coolant. The boiling point of propane is never below
the freeze point of 50/50 glycol water.
There are safety issues with propane. This is not one.
dead. However, this doesn't happen because you always start on petrol and
switch over once the radiator valve has opened.
That said, I did once start it on propane when it was below freezing outside
and it did freeze even with a 50/50 mix ( in a new radiator filled by my
good self only a week before).
I don't quite understand the fears over propane, given that we have got used
to carrying around 20 gallons of far more volatile petrol, which can ignite
from vapour a good 20' away from the source and explodes rather than burns.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126420287.983615.140410@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
<<snip>>
By The Way you
> may see the hot water lines trying to keep it from freezing and killing
> yet another. Imagine if you took off with pre-heating it?
This is just something that does not happen. No one in the propane
industry has ever heard of it. Ask Dave, has it happened in the humid
always raining UK yet even once? The Queen of England rides in a
propane burning Rolls Royce all the time. You think it would be allowed
if it was too dangerous?
If the vaporizer freezes up on the fuel side, due to a slug of water,
what happens is-the engine quits.
If you use 50/50 antifreeze like everyone does since WWII the propane
cannot freeze the coolant. The boiling point of propane is never below
the freeze point of 50/50 glycol water.
There are safety issues with propane. This is not one.
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
Brett has it spot on, Bill. If the vapourizer freezes, the engine stops
dead. However, this doesn't happen because you always start on petrol and
switch over once the radiator valve has opened.
That said, I did once start it on propane when it was below freezing outside
and it did freeze even with a 50/50 mix ( in a new radiator filled by my
good self only a week before).
I don't quite understand the fears over propane, given that we have got used
to carrying around 20 gallons of far more volatile petrol, which can ignite
from vapour a good 20' away from the source and explodes rather than burns.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126420287.983615.140410@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
<<snip>>
By The Way you
> may see the hot water lines trying to keep it from freezing and killing
> yet another. Imagine if you took off with pre-heating it?
This is just something that does not happen. No one in the propane
industry has ever heard of it. Ask Dave, has it happened in the humid
always raining UK yet even once? The Queen of England rides in a
propane burning Rolls Royce all the time. You think it would be allowed
if it was too dangerous?
If the vaporizer freezes up on the fuel side, due to a slug of water,
what happens is-the engine quits.
If you use 50/50 antifreeze like everyone does since WWII the propane
cannot freeze the coolant. The boiling point of propane is never below
the freeze point of 50/50 glycol water.
There are safety issues with propane. This is not one.
dead. However, this doesn't happen because you always start on petrol and
switch over once the radiator valve has opened.
That said, I did once start it on propane when it was below freezing outside
and it did freeze even with a 50/50 mix ( in a new radiator filled by my
good self only a week before).
I don't quite understand the fears over propane, given that we have got used
to carrying around 20 gallons of far more volatile petrol, which can ignite
from vapour a good 20' away from the source and explodes rather than burns.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126420287.983615.140410@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
L.W. ------ III (ßill) wrote:
<<snip>>
By The Way you
> may see the hot water lines trying to keep it from freezing and killing
> yet another. Imagine if you took off with pre-heating it?
This is just something that does not happen. No one in the propane
industry has ever heard of it. Ask Dave, has it happened in the humid
always raining UK yet even once? The Queen of England rides in a
propane burning Rolls Royce all the time. You think it would be allowed
if it was too dangerous?
If the vaporizer freezes up on the fuel side, due to a slug of water,
what happens is-the engine quits.
If you use 50/50 antifreeze like everyone does since WWII the propane
cannot freeze the coolant. The boiling point of propane is never below
the freeze point of 50/50 glycol water.
There are safety issues with propane. This is not one.
Guest
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Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
Not if it freezes at full throttle like if you were trying to climb
a hill. Why do you think your carburetor is heated??????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Brett has it spot on, Bill. If the vapourizer freezes, the engine stops
> dead. However, this doesn't happen because you always start on petrol and
> switch over once the radiator valve has opened.
>
> That said, I did once start it on propane when it was below freezing outside
> and it did freeze even with a 50/50 mix ( in a new radiator filled by my
> good self only a week before).
>
> I don't quite understand the fears over propane, given that we have got used
> to carrying around 20 gallons of far more volatile petrol, which can ignite
> from vapour a good 20' away from the source and explodes rather than burns.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
a hill. Why do you think your carburetor is heated??????
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Brett has it spot on, Bill. If the vapourizer freezes, the engine stops
> dead. However, this doesn't happen because you always start on petrol and
> switch over once the radiator valve has opened.
>
> That said, I did once start it on propane when it was below freezing outside
> and it did freeze even with a 50/50 mix ( in a new radiator filled by my
> good self only a week before).
>
> I don't quite understand the fears over propane, given that we have got used
> to carrying around 20 gallons of far more volatile petrol, which can ignite
> from vapour a good 20' away from the source and explodes rather than burns.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
