Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:55:02 -0700, L.W.------ wrote:
> Guvf vf gb nyy gur crbcyr jub, yvxr zr, unir orra hfvat Ghegyr Jnk sbe > lrnef. > > Svefg bss, V'ir arire hfrq nal bgure jnk cebqhpgf fb cyrnfr qba'g > erfcbaq gb zr ol fnlvat "unir lbh gevrq guvf jnk" be "unir lbh gevrq > gung jnk" ... V'z jung lbh pnyy n yblny pbafhzre, zbfgyl orpnhfr zl Qnq > hfrq vg sbe lrnef naq V thrff V vaurevgrq gur fnzr nssyvpgvba. > > Xrrc va zvaq gung V yvir va gur Pnanqvna Rnfg Pbnfg jurer bhe jvagref > ner nofbyhgryl OEHGNY fb jnkvat lbhe pne vf n arprffvgl, abg n yhkhel. > Bhg urer, vs lbh qba'g jnk lbhe pne, gur rkgerzr pbyq pbhcyrq jvgu gur > fnyg naq pnypvhz gurl guebj ba gur ebnqf jvyy qb lbhe pne va va yrff > guna 3 lrnef. > > V jnkrq zl fcnaxvat arj 2005 Avffna Nygvzn 3 gvzrf ng 3-zbagu vagreinyf > hfvat : > > 1. Ghegyr Jnk Fhcre Uneq Furyy Pne Jnk > 2. Ghegyr Jnk Pneanhon Pne Jnk > 3. Cyngvahz Frevrf Hygen Tybff Pne Jnk > > Urer ner zl crefbany erfhygf: > > Ghegyr Jnk Fhcre Uneq Furyy Pne Jnk > > Irel tbbq jnk sbe gur cevpr (fgvyy haqre 5.00 bhg urer). Tbbq fuvar, > irel tbbq cebgrpgvba (cebgrpgvba bhg urer pbhagf zber guna fuvar). Lbh > unir gb erfcrpg guvf jnk orpnhfr vg'f orra nebhaq sberire, va snpg, > nppbeqvat gb gur Tybor naq Znvy, guvf jnk vf fgvyy Ghegyr'f #1 pnfu > pbj. Nsgre 3 zbaguf, gur pne jnf fgvyy orrqvat naq jnf fzbbgu gb gur > gbhpu. > > Abj V'ir urneq fgbevrf nobhg crbcyr fnlvat gung vs gurl hfrq guvf jnk > ba "er-cnvagrq" nernf bs gur pne, gur cnvag jbhyq crry evtug bss. > Jryy, V er-cnvagrq zl 1987 Fragen gjvpr naq arire bapr qvq V unir guvf > ceboyrz .... V unq gur pne er-cnvagrq ng gur Avffna qrnyrefuvc ... > pbhyq vg or gung bevtvany snpgbel cnvag vf orggre guna lbhe nirentr Wbr > Fuzbr obql fubc cnvag ?? Jub xabjf ... whfg jnagrq gb fnl gung V arire > unq guvf ceboyrz ba zl er-cnvagrq pnef. > > Cyngvahz Frevrf Hygen Tybff Pne Jnk > > Hfryrff bhg urer. > > Vs lbh jnag n tybffl fuvar, gura lbh pbhyq ohl guvf jnk ohg vg snvyrq > zvfrenoyr va gur qhenovyvgl grfg. Guvf jnk jnf ratvarrerq gb tvir n > fubjebbz fuvar. Gung'f vg. Vs lbh'er n crefba jub bjaf n pne > qrnyrefuvc yvxr Avffna be Sbeq naq lbh jnag gb fubj bss lbhe arj pnef > va lbhe fubjebbz, gura guvf vf gur jnk sbe lbh. Vs lbh jnag cebgrpgvba > naq qhenovyvgl, gura ybbx gur bgure jnl zl sevraq. Nsgre gjb zbaguf, > gur cnvag sryg ebhtu naq gur orrqvat fgbccrq va yrff guna n zbagu. > > Yrg zr whfg fnl guvf. Gur qvssrerapr va fuvar orgjrra Cyngvahz Frevrf > Hygen Tybff Pne Jnk naq Ghegyr Jnk Fhcre Uneq Furyy Pne Jnk jnf uneqyl > abgvprnoyr. Va snpg, hayrff lbh unq n fcrpvsvp yriry bs yvtugvat, V > sbhaq AB qvssrerapr. Uneqyl jbegu gur rkgen zbarl sbe n 1% vapernfr va > fuvar. > > Ghegyr Jnk Pneanhon Pne Jnk > > Rkpryyrag jnk. V tvir gur guhzof hc sbe obgu cebgrpgvba naq fuvar. > V npghnyyl pnyyrq Ghegyr naq gurl gbyq zr gung gur Ghegyr Pneanhon Pne > Jnk sbezhyn vf onfrq ba gur Fhcre Uneq Furyy. Nyy gurl qvq jnf zvk va > Pneanhon ntragf. Guvf jbhyq rkcynva jul vg'f fhpu n tbbq jnk .. gurl > gbbx gur bevtvany Fhcre Uneq Furyy naq nqqrq gur Oenmvyvna pneanhon. > > Nsgre 3 zbaguf, fzbbgu gb gur gbhpu naq orrqvat jnf fgvyy cerggl > fgebat. Nf sbe gur tybff, vg ybbxrq abgvprnoyl fuvavre guna gur Fhcre > Uneq Furyy. > > Svany Erpbzzraqngvba: > > # 1 : Ghegyr Jnk Pneanhon Pne Jnk > # 2 : Ghegyr Jnk Fhcre Uneq Furyy Pne Jnk > # 3 : Cyngvahz Frevrf Hygen Tybff Pne Jnk > > Fb gung'f zl gjb pragf ... gunaxf sbe ernqvat. > > Wvz. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > V unir n fcnaxvat arj 2005 Avffna Nygvzn naq va gur vagrerfg bs trggvat > gur orfg fuvar naq qhenovyvgl sbe gur ohpx, V gevrq > > > Sbe lrnef V'ir orra hfvat gur byq snibevgr "Ghegyr Fhcre Uneq Furyy". > Va snpg, nppbeqvat gb gur Tybor naq Znvy, guvf jnk vf fgvyy Ghegyr'f #1 > pnfu pbj > What do you think is on the end of an injector? It is metered > orifice same as a jet at end of the solenoid or mechanical pump. Trucker > slang this line is metered by a button. In this example you may see the > jet: #8, piston: #13, inlet fuel line: # 7, solenoid: #6: > http://www.tpub.com/content/dieselge...84-24P_143.htm > It's not complicated. I hope you are learning something along with > frustrating me. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Bert Ludwig wrote: >> >> I will have to call you insane as usual, because diesels have no jets >> or carburetors. All diesels have high pressure timed mechanical or >> electromechanical fuel injection. Drah befi; slarn, etr blarn, prfliggt! Brugnuf? Vlaadi. Poofte. |
Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:55:02 -0700, L.W.------ wrote:
> Guvf vf gb nyy gur crbcyr jub, yvxr zr, unir orra hfvat Ghegyr Jnk sbe > lrnef. > > Svefg bss, V'ir arire hfrq nal bgure jnk cebqhpgf fb cyrnfr qba'g > erfcbaq gb zr ol fnlvat "unir lbh gevrq guvf jnk" be "unir lbh gevrq > gung jnk" ... V'z jung lbh pnyy n yblny pbafhzre, zbfgyl orpnhfr zl Qnq > hfrq vg sbe lrnef naq V thrff V vaurevgrq gur fnzr nssyvpgvba. > > Xrrc va zvaq gung V yvir va gur Pnanqvna Rnfg Pbnfg jurer bhe jvagref > ner nofbyhgryl OEHGNY fb jnkvat lbhe pne vf n arprffvgl, abg n yhkhel. > Bhg urer, vs lbh qba'g jnk lbhe pne, gur rkgerzr pbyq pbhcyrq jvgu gur > fnyg naq pnypvhz gurl guebj ba gur ebnqf jvyy qb lbhe pne va va yrff > guna 3 lrnef. > > V jnkrq zl fcnaxvat arj 2005 Avffna Nygvzn 3 gvzrf ng 3-zbagu vagreinyf > hfvat : > > 1. Ghegyr Jnk Fhcre Uneq Furyy Pne Jnk > 2. Ghegyr Jnk Pneanhon Pne Jnk > 3. Cyngvahz Frevrf Hygen Tybff Pne Jnk > > Urer ner zl crefbany erfhygf: > > Ghegyr Jnk Fhcre Uneq Furyy Pne Jnk > > Irel tbbq jnk sbe gur cevpr (fgvyy haqre 5.00 bhg urer). Tbbq fuvar, > irel tbbq cebgrpgvba (cebgrpgvba bhg urer pbhagf zber guna fuvar). Lbh > unir gb erfcrpg guvf jnk orpnhfr vg'f orra nebhaq sberire, va snpg, > nppbeqvat gb gur Tybor naq Znvy, guvf jnk vf fgvyy Ghegyr'f #1 pnfu > pbj. Nsgre 3 zbaguf, gur pne jnf fgvyy orrqvat naq jnf fzbbgu gb gur > gbhpu. > > Abj V'ir urneq fgbevrf nobhg crbcyr fnlvat gung vs gurl hfrq guvf jnk > ba "er-cnvagrq" nernf bs gur pne, gur cnvag jbhyq crry evtug bss. > Jryy, V er-cnvagrq zl 1987 Fragen gjvpr naq arire bapr qvq V unir guvf > ceboyrz .... V unq gur pne er-cnvagrq ng gur Avffna qrnyrefuvc ... > pbhyq vg or gung bevtvany snpgbel cnvag vf orggre guna lbhe nirentr Wbr > Fuzbr obql fubc cnvag ?? Jub xabjf ... whfg jnagrq gb fnl gung V arire > unq guvf ceboyrz ba zl er-cnvagrq pnef. > > Cyngvahz Frevrf Hygen Tybff Pne Jnk > > Hfryrff bhg urer. > > Vs lbh jnag n tybffl fuvar, gura lbh pbhyq ohl guvf jnk ohg vg snvyrq > zvfrenoyr va gur qhenovyvgl grfg. Guvf jnk jnf ratvarrerq gb tvir n > fubjebbz fuvar. Gung'f vg. Vs lbh'er n crefba jub bjaf n pne > qrnyrefuvc yvxr Avffna be Sbeq naq lbh jnag gb fubj bss lbhe arj pnef > va lbhe fubjebbz, gura guvf vf gur jnk sbe lbh. Vs lbh jnag cebgrpgvba > naq qhenovyvgl, gura ybbx gur bgure jnl zl sevraq. Nsgre gjb zbaguf, > gur cnvag sryg ebhtu naq gur orrqvat fgbccrq va yrff guna n zbagu. > > Yrg zr whfg fnl guvf. Gur qvssrerapr va fuvar orgjrra Cyngvahz Frevrf > Hygen Tybff Pne Jnk naq Ghegyr Jnk Fhcre Uneq Furyy Pne Jnk jnf uneqyl > abgvprnoyr. Va snpg, hayrff lbh unq n fcrpvsvp yriry bs yvtugvat, V > sbhaq AB qvssrerapr. Uneqyl jbegu gur rkgen zbarl sbe n 1% vapernfr va > fuvar. > > Ghegyr Jnk Pneanhon Pne Jnk > > Rkpryyrag jnk. V tvir gur guhzof hc sbe obgu cebgrpgvba naq fuvar. > V npghnyyl pnyyrq Ghegyr naq gurl gbyq zr gung gur Ghegyr Pneanhon Pne > Jnk sbezhyn vf onfrq ba gur Fhcre Uneq Furyy. Nyy gurl qvq jnf zvk va > Pneanhon ntragf. Guvf jbhyq rkcynva jul vg'f fhpu n tbbq jnk .. gurl > gbbx gur bevtvany Fhcre Uneq Furyy naq nqqrq gur Oenmvyvna pneanhon. > > Nsgre 3 zbaguf, fzbbgu gb gur gbhpu naq orrqvat jnf fgvyy cerggl > fgebat. Nf sbe gur tybff, vg ybbxrq abgvprnoyl fuvavre guna gur Fhcre > Uneq Furyy. > > Svany Erpbzzraqngvba: > > # 1 : Ghegyr Jnk Pneanhon Pne Jnk > # 2 : Ghegyr Jnk Fhcre Uneq Furyy Pne Jnk > # 3 : Cyngvahz Frevrf Hygen Tybff Pne Jnk > > Fb gung'f zl gjb pragf ... gunaxf sbe ernqvat. > > Wvz. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > V unir n fcnaxvat arj 2005 Avffna Nygvzn naq va gur vagrerfg bs trggvat > gur orfg fuvar naq qhenovyvgl sbe gur ohpx, V gevrq > > > Sbe lrnef V'ir orra hfvat gur byq snibevgr "Ghegyr Fhcre Uneq Furyy". > Va snpg, nppbeqvat gb gur Tybor naq Znvy, guvf jnk vf fgvyy Ghegyr'f #1 > pnfu pbj > What do you think is on the end of an injector? It is metered > orifice same as a jet at end of the solenoid or mechanical pump. Trucker > slang this line is metered by a button. In this example you may see the > jet: #8, piston: #13, inlet fuel line: # 7, solenoid: #6: > http://www.tpub.com/content/dieselge...84-24P_143.htm > It's not complicated. I hope you are learning something along with > frustrating me. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Bert Ludwig wrote: >> >> I will have to call you insane as usual, because diesels have no jets >> or carburetors. All diesels have high pressure timed mechanical or >> electromechanical fuel injection. Drah befi; slarn, etr blarn, prfliggt! Brugnuf? Vlaadi. Poofte. |
Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:55:02 -0700, L.W.------ wrote:
> Guvf vf gb nyy gur crbcyr jub, yvxr zr, unir orra hfvat Ghegyr Jnk sbe > lrnef. > > Svefg bss, V'ir arire hfrq nal bgure jnk cebqhpgf fb cyrnfr qba'g > erfcbaq gb zr ol fnlvat "unir lbh gevrq guvf jnk" be "unir lbh gevrq > gung jnk" ... V'z jung lbh pnyy n yblny pbafhzre, zbfgyl orpnhfr zl Qnq > hfrq vg sbe lrnef naq V thrff V vaurevgrq gur fnzr nssyvpgvba. > > Xrrc va zvaq gung V yvir va gur Pnanqvna Rnfg Pbnfg jurer bhe jvagref > ner nofbyhgryl OEHGNY fb jnkvat lbhe pne vf n arprffvgl, abg n yhkhel. > Bhg urer, vs lbh qba'g jnk lbhe pne, gur rkgerzr pbyq pbhcyrq jvgu gur > fnyg naq pnypvhz gurl guebj ba gur ebnqf jvyy qb lbhe pne va va yrff > guna 3 lrnef. > > V jnkrq zl fcnaxvat arj 2005 Avffna Nygvzn 3 gvzrf ng 3-zbagu vagreinyf > hfvat : > > 1. Ghegyr Jnk Fhcre Uneq Furyy Pne Jnk > 2. Ghegyr Jnk Pneanhon Pne Jnk > 3. Cyngvahz Frevrf Hygen Tybff Pne Jnk > > Urer ner zl crefbany erfhygf: > > Ghegyr Jnk Fhcre Uneq Furyy Pne Jnk > > Irel tbbq jnk sbe gur cevpr (fgvyy haqre 5.00 bhg urer). Tbbq fuvar, > irel tbbq cebgrpgvba (cebgrpgvba bhg urer pbhagf zber guna fuvar). Lbh > unir gb erfcrpg guvf jnk orpnhfr vg'f orra nebhaq sberire, va snpg, > nppbeqvat gb gur Tybor naq Znvy, guvf jnk vf fgvyy Ghegyr'f #1 pnfu > pbj. Nsgre 3 zbaguf, gur pne jnf fgvyy orrqvat naq jnf fzbbgu gb gur > gbhpu. > > Abj V'ir urneq fgbevrf nobhg crbcyr fnlvat gung vs gurl hfrq guvf jnk > ba "er-cnvagrq" nernf bs gur pne, gur cnvag jbhyq crry evtug bss. > Jryy, V er-cnvagrq zl 1987 Fragen gjvpr naq arire bapr qvq V unir guvf > ceboyrz .... V unq gur pne er-cnvagrq ng gur Avffna qrnyrefuvc ... > pbhyq vg or gung bevtvany snpgbel cnvag vf orggre guna lbhe nirentr Wbr > Fuzbr obql fubc cnvag ?? Jub xabjf ... whfg jnagrq gb fnl gung V arire > unq guvf ceboyrz ba zl er-cnvagrq pnef. > > Cyngvahz Frevrf Hygen Tybff Pne Jnk > > Hfryrff bhg urer. > > Vs lbh jnag n tybffl fuvar, gura lbh pbhyq ohl guvf jnk ohg vg snvyrq > zvfrenoyr va gur qhenovyvgl grfg. Guvf jnk jnf ratvarrerq gb tvir n > fubjebbz fuvar. Gung'f vg. Vs lbh'er n crefba jub bjaf n pne > qrnyrefuvc yvxr Avffna be Sbeq naq lbh jnag gb fubj bss lbhe arj pnef > va lbhe fubjebbz, gura guvf vf gur jnk sbe lbh. Vs lbh jnag cebgrpgvba > naq qhenovyvgl, gura ybbx gur bgure jnl zl sevraq. Nsgre gjb zbaguf, > gur cnvag sryg ebhtu naq gur orrqvat fgbccrq va yrff guna n zbagu. > > Yrg zr whfg fnl guvf. Gur qvssrerapr va fuvar orgjrra Cyngvahz Frevrf > Hygen Tybff Pne Jnk naq Ghegyr Jnk Fhcre Uneq Furyy Pne Jnk jnf uneqyl > abgvprnoyr. Va snpg, hayrff lbh unq n fcrpvsvp yriry bs yvtugvat, V > sbhaq AB qvssrerapr. Uneqyl jbegu gur rkgen zbarl sbe n 1% vapernfr va > fuvar. > > Ghegyr Jnk Pneanhon Pne Jnk > > Rkpryyrag jnk. V tvir gur guhzof hc sbe obgu cebgrpgvba naq fuvar. > V npghnyyl pnyyrq Ghegyr naq gurl gbyq zr gung gur Ghegyr Pneanhon Pne > Jnk sbezhyn vf onfrq ba gur Fhcre Uneq Furyy. Nyy gurl qvq jnf zvk va > Pneanhon ntragf. Guvf jbhyq rkcynva jul vg'f fhpu n tbbq jnk .. gurl > gbbx gur bevtvany Fhcre Uneq Furyy naq nqqrq gur Oenmvyvna pneanhon. > > Nsgre 3 zbaguf, fzbbgu gb gur gbhpu naq orrqvat jnf fgvyy cerggl > fgebat. Nf sbe gur tybff, vg ybbxrq abgvprnoyl fuvavre guna gur Fhcre > Uneq Furyy. > > Svany Erpbzzraqngvba: > > # 1 : Ghegyr Jnk Pneanhon Pne Jnk > # 2 : Ghegyr Jnk Fhcre Uneq Furyy Pne Jnk > # 3 : Cyngvahz Frevrf Hygen Tybff Pne Jnk > > Fb gung'f zl gjb pragf ... gunaxf sbe ernqvat. > > Wvz. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > V unir n fcnaxvat arj 2005 Avffna Nygvzn naq va gur vagrerfg bs trggvat > gur orfg fuvar naq qhenovyvgl sbe gur ohpx, V gevrq > > > Sbe lrnef V'ir orra hfvat gur byq snibevgr "Ghegyr Fhcre Uneq Furyy". > Va snpg, nppbeqvat gb gur Tybor naq Znvy, guvf jnk vf fgvyy Ghegyr'f #1 > pnfu pbj > What do you think is on the end of an injector? It is metered > orifice same as a jet at end of the solenoid or mechanical pump. Trucker > slang this line is metered by a button. In this example you may see the > jet: #8, piston: #13, inlet fuel line: # 7, solenoid: #6: > http://www.tpub.com/content/dieselge...84-24P_143.htm > It's not complicated. I hope you are learning something along with > frustrating me. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Bert Ludwig wrote: >> >> I will have to call you insane as usual, because diesels have no jets >> or carburetors. All diesels have high pressure timed mechanical or >> electromechanical fuel injection. Drah befi; slarn, etr blarn, prfliggt! Brugnuf? Vlaadi. Poofte. |
Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 21:29:49 -0700, L.W.------ wrote:
Ner nofbyhgryl OEHGNY fb jnkvat lbhe pne vf n arprffvgl, abg n yhkhel? > It ain't winter yet. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Paul Calman wrote: >> >> Yup, $3.50 a gallon for diesel here, but at 50 mpg my vw is still cheaper >> than burning regular in my trucks or my bikes. >> >> -- >> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California |
Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 21:29:49 -0700, L.W.------ wrote:
Ner nofbyhgryl OEHGNY fb jnkvat lbhe pne vf n arprffvgl, abg n yhkhel? > It ain't winter yet. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Paul Calman wrote: >> >> Yup, $3.50 a gallon for diesel here, but at 50 mpg my vw is still cheaper >> than burning regular in my trucks or my bikes. >> >> -- >> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California |
Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 21:29:49 -0700, L.W.------ wrote:
Ner nofbyhgryl OEHGNY fb jnkvat lbhe pne vf n arprffvgl, abg n yhkhel? > It ain't winter yet. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Paul Calman wrote: >> >> Yup, $3.50 a gallon for diesel here, but at 50 mpg my vw is still cheaper >> than burning regular in my trucks or my bikes. >> >> -- >> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California |
Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 21:29:49 -0700, L.W.------ wrote:
Ner nofbyhgryl OEHGNY fb jnkvat lbhe pne vf n arprffvgl, abg n yhkhel? > It ain't winter yet. > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Paul Calman wrote: >> >> Yup, $3.50 a gallon for diesel here, but at 50 mpg my vw is still cheaper >> than burning regular in my trucks or my bikes. >> >> -- >> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California |
Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 19:49:27 -0700, L.W.------ wrote:
> You just look at a Diesel and see if you can figure it out: > http://www.----------.com/temp/VolvoVT880EngineD16.jpg > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Dave Milne wrote: >> f eass >> don't believe so - what maintenance were you thinking of specifically ? >> >> Dave Milne, Scotland >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ |
Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 19:49:27 -0700, L.W.------ wrote:
> You just look at a Diesel and see if you can figure it out: > http://www.----------.com/temp/VolvoVT880EngineD16.jpg > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Dave Milne wrote: >> f eass >> don't believe so - what maintenance were you thinking of specifically ? >> >> Dave Milne, Scotland >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ |
Re: Ya ready for diesel yet?
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 19:49:27 -0700, L.W.------ wrote:
> You just look at a Diesel and see if you can figure it out: > http://www.----------.com/temp/VolvoVT880EngineD16.jpg > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Dave Milne wrote: >> f eass >> don't believe so - what maintenance were you thinking of specifically ? >> >> Dave Milne, Scotland >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ |
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