wrangler towed in gear
11-02-2004, 10:24 PM
#71
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
I don't *think* so, temps were in the low 50's. He was able to start
the engine briefly so we know it runs. Your description sounds like
the same area where he described water leaking from. I wondered if
there was enough pressure built up to pop one out. Here's hopin'
that's all it is. Are those plugs hard to get or put back in?
On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 09:14:30 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>Is there a chance the thing froze up during the tow?
>
>You folks are talking the same part, the casting plugs in the side and
>end of the block. Commonly known as frost plugs or freeze plugs or that
>hole you put a block heater into....
>
>Buddy could be lucky and one coincidentally decided to let go???
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>>
>> I may be thinking about on other vehicles, my mom's old '64 Comet had
>> a freeze plug that was meant to pop out hopefully before the block
>> cracked in case the engine froze. I've got a service manual and will
>> see what it says.
>>
>> On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 04:52:34 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Not sure what you mean by "freeze plug" but with my '88 YJ ...I was driving
>> >down the street one day and blew the lock heater plug out of the side of my
>> >block and blew coolant all over the street until she started to overheat and
>> >stall. Maybe that's it? Maybe that's what you mean by "freeze plug"? On my
>> >YJ it was located on the driver side on the lower half of the engine.
>> >Definitely don't drive it tho!
the engine briefly so we know it runs. Your description sounds like
the same area where he described water leaking from. I wondered if
there was enough pressure built up to pop one out. Here's hopin'
that's all it is. Are those plugs hard to get or put back in?
On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 09:14:30 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>Is there a chance the thing froze up during the tow?
>
>You folks are talking the same part, the casting plugs in the side and
>end of the block. Commonly known as frost plugs or freeze plugs or that
>hole you put a block heater into....
>
>Buddy could be lucky and one coincidentally decided to let go???
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>>
>> I may be thinking about on other vehicles, my mom's old '64 Comet had
>> a freeze plug that was meant to pop out hopefully before the block
>> cracked in case the engine froze. I've got a service manual and will
>> see what it says.
>>
>> On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 04:52:34 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Not sure what you mean by "freeze plug" but with my '88 YJ ...I was driving
>> >down the street one day and blew the lock heater plug out of the side of my
>> >block and blew coolant all over the street until she started to overheat and
>> >stall. Maybe that's it? Maybe that's what you mean by "freeze plug"? On my
>> >YJ it was located on the driver side on the lower half of the engine.
>> >Definitely don't drive it tho!
11-02-2004, 10:24 PM
#72
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
I don't *think* so, temps were in the low 50's. He was able to start
the engine briefly so we know it runs. Your description sounds like
the same area where he described water leaking from. I wondered if
there was enough pressure built up to pop one out. Here's hopin'
that's all it is. Are those plugs hard to get or put back in?
On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 09:14:30 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>Is there a chance the thing froze up during the tow?
>
>You folks are talking the same part, the casting plugs in the side and
>end of the block. Commonly known as frost plugs or freeze plugs or that
>hole you put a block heater into....
>
>Buddy could be lucky and one coincidentally decided to let go???
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>>
>> I may be thinking about on other vehicles, my mom's old '64 Comet had
>> a freeze plug that was meant to pop out hopefully before the block
>> cracked in case the engine froze. I've got a service manual and will
>> see what it says.
>>
>> On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 04:52:34 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Not sure what you mean by "freeze plug" but with my '88 YJ ...I was driving
>> >down the street one day and blew the lock heater plug out of the side of my
>> >block and blew coolant all over the street until she started to overheat and
>> >stall. Maybe that's it? Maybe that's what you mean by "freeze plug"? On my
>> >YJ it was located on the driver side on the lower half of the engine.
>> >Definitely don't drive it tho!
the engine briefly so we know it runs. Your description sounds like
the same area where he described water leaking from. I wondered if
there was enough pressure built up to pop one out. Here's hopin'
that's all it is. Are those plugs hard to get or put back in?
On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 09:14:30 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>Is there a chance the thing froze up during the tow?
>
>You folks are talking the same part, the casting plugs in the side and
>end of the block. Commonly known as frost plugs or freeze plugs or that
>hole you put a block heater into....
>
>Buddy could be lucky and one coincidentally decided to let go???
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>>
>> I may be thinking about on other vehicles, my mom's old '64 Comet had
>> a freeze plug that was meant to pop out hopefully before the block
>> cracked in case the engine froze. I've got a service manual and will
>> see what it says.
>>
>> On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 04:52:34 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Not sure what you mean by "freeze plug" but with my '88 YJ ...I was driving
>> >down the street one day and blew the lock heater plug out of the side of my
>> >block and blew coolant all over the street until she started to overheat and
>> >stall. Maybe that's it? Maybe that's what you mean by "freeze plug"? On my
>> >YJ it was located on the driver side on the lower half of the engine.
>> >Definitely don't drive it tho!
11-02-2004, 10:24 PM
#73
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
I don't *think* so, temps were in the low 50's. He was able to start
the engine briefly so we know it runs. Your description sounds like
the same area where he described water leaking from. I wondered if
there was enough pressure built up to pop one out. Here's hopin'
that's all it is. Are those plugs hard to get or put back in?
On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 09:14:30 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>Is there a chance the thing froze up during the tow?
>
>You folks are talking the same part, the casting plugs in the side and
>end of the block. Commonly known as frost plugs or freeze plugs or that
>hole you put a block heater into....
>
>Buddy could be lucky and one coincidentally decided to let go???
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>>
>> I may be thinking about on other vehicles, my mom's old '64 Comet had
>> a freeze plug that was meant to pop out hopefully before the block
>> cracked in case the engine froze. I've got a service manual and will
>> see what it says.
>>
>> On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 04:52:34 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Not sure what you mean by "freeze plug" but with my '88 YJ ...I was driving
>> >down the street one day and blew the lock heater plug out of the side of my
>> >block and blew coolant all over the street until she started to overheat and
>> >stall. Maybe that's it? Maybe that's what you mean by "freeze plug"? On my
>> >YJ it was located on the driver side on the lower half of the engine.
>> >Definitely don't drive it tho!
the engine briefly so we know it runs. Your description sounds like
the same area where he described water leaking from. I wondered if
there was enough pressure built up to pop one out. Here's hopin'
that's all it is. Are those plugs hard to get or put back in?
On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 09:14:30 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>Is there a chance the thing froze up during the tow?
>
>You folks are talking the same part, the casting plugs in the side and
>end of the block. Commonly known as frost plugs or freeze plugs or that
>hole you put a block heater into....
>
>Buddy could be lucky and one coincidentally decided to let go???
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>>
>> I may be thinking about on other vehicles, my mom's old '64 Comet had
>> a freeze plug that was meant to pop out hopefully before the block
>> cracked in case the engine froze. I've got a service manual and will
>> see what it says.
>>
>> On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 04:52:34 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Not sure what you mean by "freeze plug" but with my '88 YJ ...I was driving
>> >down the street one day and blew the lock heater plug out of the side of my
>> >block and blew coolant all over the street until she started to overheat and
>> >stall. Maybe that's it? Maybe that's what you mean by "freeze plug"? On my
>> >YJ it was located on the driver side on the lower half of the engine.
>> >Definitely don't drive it tho!
11-02-2004, 10:40 PM
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
Easy, cheap to get and not real hard to install. Might have to remove
manifolds and such but it's all basic stuff. Hope that's all it is.
dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
> I don't *think* so, temps were in the low 50's. He was able to start
> the engine briefly so we know it runs. Your description sounds like
> the same area where he described water leaking from. I wondered if
> there was enough pressure built up to pop one out. Here's hopin'
> that's all it is. Are those plugs hard to get or put back in?
--
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manifolds and such but it's all basic stuff. Hope that's all it is.
dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
> I don't *think* so, temps were in the low 50's. He was able to start
> the engine briefly so we know it runs. Your description sounds like
> the same area where he described water leaking from. I wondered if
> there was enough pressure built up to pop one out. Here's hopin'
> that's all it is. Are those plugs hard to get or put back in?
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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11-02-2004, 10:40 PM
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
Easy, cheap to get and not real hard to install. Might have to remove
manifolds and such but it's all basic stuff. Hope that's all it is.
dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
> I don't *think* so, temps were in the low 50's. He was able to start
> the engine briefly so we know it runs. Your description sounds like
> the same area where he described water leaking from. I wondered if
> there was enough pressure built up to pop one out. Here's hopin'
> that's all it is. Are those plugs hard to get or put back in?
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
manifolds and such but it's all basic stuff. Hope that's all it is.
dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
> I don't *think* so, temps were in the low 50's. He was able to start
> the engine briefly so we know it runs. Your description sounds like
> the same area where he described water leaking from. I wondered if
> there was enough pressure built up to pop one out. Here's hopin'
> that's all it is. Are those plugs hard to get or put back in?
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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11-02-2004, 10:40 PM
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
Easy, cheap to get and not real hard to install. Might have to remove
manifolds and such but it's all basic stuff. Hope that's all it is.
dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
> I don't *think* so, temps were in the low 50's. He was able to start
> the engine briefly so we know it runs. Your description sounds like
> the same area where he described water leaking from. I wondered if
> there was enough pressure built up to pop one out. Here's hopin'
> that's all it is. Are those plugs hard to get or put back in?
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
manifolds and such but it's all basic stuff. Hope that's all it is.
dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
> I don't *think* so, temps were in the low 50's. He was able to start
> the engine briefly so we know it runs. Your description sounds like
> the same area where he described water leaking from. I wondered if
> there was enough pressure built up to pop one out. Here's hopin'
> that's all it is. Are those plugs hard to get or put back in?
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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11-02-2004, 11:47 PM
#77
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
not yet :-)
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
news:mtCdnTJMKdbGyxrcRVn-qg@rogers.com...
> The voice of experience? ;-)
> -Brian
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:qeHhd.4673$up1.2194@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> : about 6000 rpm with 28" tyres, 3.07 ratio
> :
> : Dave Milne, Scotland
> : '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> :
> : "V L" <nmvrlewis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> : > big load but once you got it moving, who knows. Someone please
> : > calculate the engine rpm of a Wrangler in 2nd gear @ 70mph!!
> : >
> : > VL
> :
> :
>
>
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
news:mtCdnTJMKdbGyxrcRVn-qg@rogers.com...
> The voice of experience? ;-)
> -Brian
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:qeHhd.4673$up1.2194@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> : about 6000 rpm with 28" tyres, 3.07 ratio
> :
> : Dave Milne, Scotland
> : '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> :
> : "V L" <nmvrlewis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> : > big load but once you got it moving, who knows. Someone please
> : > calculate the engine rpm of a Wrangler in 2nd gear @ 70mph!!
> : >
> : > VL
> :
> :
>
>
11-02-2004, 11:47 PM
#78
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
not yet :-)
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
news:mtCdnTJMKdbGyxrcRVn-qg@rogers.com...
> The voice of experience? ;-)
> -Brian
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:qeHhd.4673$up1.2194@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> : about 6000 rpm with 28" tyres, 3.07 ratio
> :
> : Dave Milne, Scotland
> : '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> :
> : "V L" <nmvrlewis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> : > big load but once you got it moving, who knows. Someone please
> : > calculate the engine rpm of a Wrangler in 2nd gear @ 70mph!!
> : >
> : > VL
> :
> :
>
>
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
news:mtCdnTJMKdbGyxrcRVn-qg@rogers.com...
> The voice of experience? ;-)
> -Brian
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:qeHhd.4673$up1.2194@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> : about 6000 rpm with 28" tyres, 3.07 ratio
> :
> : Dave Milne, Scotland
> : '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> :
> : "V L" <nmvrlewis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> : > big load but once you got it moving, who knows. Someone please
> : > calculate the engine rpm of a Wrangler in 2nd gear @ 70mph!!
> : >
> : > VL
> :
> :
>
>
11-02-2004, 11:47 PM
#79
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
not yet :-)
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
news:mtCdnTJMKdbGyxrcRVn-qg@rogers.com...
> The voice of experience? ;-)
> -Brian
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:qeHhd.4673$up1.2194@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> : about 6000 rpm with 28" tyres, 3.07 ratio
> :
> : Dave Milne, Scotland
> : '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> :
> : "V L" <nmvrlewis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> : > big load but once you got it moving, who knows. Someone please
> : > calculate the engine rpm of a Wrangler in 2nd gear @ 70mph!!
> : >
> : > VL
> :
> :
>
>
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Cherokee-LTD" <spammenot@home.com> wrote in message
news:mtCdnTJMKdbGyxrcRVn-qg@rogers.com...
> The voice of experience? ;-)
> -Brian
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:qeHhd.4673$up1.2194@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> : about 6000 rpm with 28" tyres, 3.07 ratio
> :
> : Dave Milne, Scotland
> : '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> :
> : "V L" <nmvrlewis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> : > big load but once you got it moving, who knows. Someone please
> : > calculate the engine rpm of a Wrangler in 2nd gear @ 70mph!!
> : >
> : > VL
> :
> :
>
>
11-03-2004, 12:25 AM
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
In message <418658F6.E51BBC05@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>Ah, ya right......
>
>You have to be kidding right?
>
>There is something really wrong with your post.
>
>There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
>gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
>
>Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
>
>The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
>
>That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
>on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
>something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
>
>That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
>lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
There wouldn't be a lack of oil. If the engine is turning, the oil pump is
pumping!
Unless maybe the trans accidentally put it's self in reverse! :-)
>
>I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
>a/the hole.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>>
>> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
>> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
>> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
>> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
>> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
>> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
>> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
>> if you think he's trashed the engine?
>Ah, ya right......
>
>You have to be kidding right?
>
>There is something really wrong with your post.
>
>There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
>gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
>
>Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
>
>The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
>
>That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
>on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
>something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
>
>That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
>lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
There wouldn't be a lack of oil. If the engine is turning, the oil pump is
pumping!
Unless maybe the trans accidentally put it's self in reverse! :-)
>
>I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
>a/the hole.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>>
>> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
>> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
>> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
>> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
>> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
>> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
>> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
>> if you think he's trashed the engine?