It works in both 4wd and 2wd. This technique works with open axles too,
it's been in use since Model T days when most vehicles got stuck more due to
there being more unpaved roads back then. :)

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:_MkEc.610038$Ar.54344@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com...
> Hmm....so, with the limited slip....the whole brake trick to get rid of
the
> single wheel spin....will that work in 2WD? or only 4??
> "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> news:TK2dncYE8b_WxXzd4p2dnA@gbronline.com...
> > Yep. On most cars, the front brakes do about 70% (+) of the braking. On
> the
> > TJ, because of the extra short wheelbase, the fronts
> > do MUCH more of the braking. The rears do very little of the actual
> braking.
> >
> > Try this test. Raise the rear wheels off the ground with a floor jack or
> > jack stands. With the engine at IDLE and with the transfer case in
2-wheel
> > drive, put the transmission in drive or 1st gear, then try to stop the
> rear
> > wheels from moving with only the foot brake. On my 6-cyl TJ with 3.73
rear
> > axel ratio, it is almost impossible to stop the rears, even while
mashing
> > the foot brake with all my might. Applying the parking brake will stop
the
> > rears easily.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:O94Ec.322$T6i.195@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.r ogers.com...
> > > Wow...do the front actually do that much?
> > >
> > > Sure feels like it the way the front dives down....
> > > actually shared an **** clenching experience with a dog today! Nosed
> down
> > > and skidded....but all's ok!
> > >
> > >
> > > "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> > > news:W-OdnQ9Kgs_ZK33dRVn-sA@gbronline.com...
> > > > Exactly. A combination valve is also called a proportioning valve.
It
> > > > distributes the braking power heavily to the front brakes and
> > > > much less so to the rears. On a TJ, the front brakes do the lion's
> share
> > > of
> > > > the braking, probably 80 to 90%.
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> >
> >
>
>

 

but if it's so hard to add resistance to the rear wheels by braking....well,
I don't know why I'm going on about this...it OBVIOUSLY work, else you would
do it no more!


"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:4RkEc.6503$Qj6.2616@fed1read05...
> It works in both 4wd and 2wd. This technique works with open axles too,
> it's been in use since Model T days when most vehicles got stuck more due
to
> there being more unpaved roads back then. :)
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:_MkEc.610038$Ar.54344@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com...
> > Hmm....so, with the limited slip....the whole brake trick to get rid of
> the
> > single wheel spin....will that work in 2WD? or only 4??
> > "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> > news:TK2dncYE8b_WxXzd4p2dnA@gbronline.com...
> > > Yep. On most cars, the front brakes do about 70% (+) of the braking.
On
> > the
> > > TJ, because of the extra short wheelbase, the fronts
> > > do MUCH more of the braking. The rears do very little of the actual
> > braking.
> > >
> > > Try this test. Raise the rear wheels off the ground with a floor jack
or
> > > jack stands. With the engine at IDLE and with the transfer case in
> 2-wheel
> > > drive, put the transmission in drive or 1st gear, then try to stop the
> > rear
> > > wheels from moving with only the foot brake. On my 6-cyl TJ with 3.73
> rear
> > > axel ratio, it is almost impossible to stop the rears, even while
> mashing
> > > the foot brake with all my might. Applying the parking brake will stop
> the
> > > rears easily.
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:O94Ec.322$T6i.195@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.r ogers.com...
> > > > Wow...do the front actually do that much?
> > > >
> > > > Sure feels like it the way the front dives down....
> > > > actually shared an **** clenching experience with a dog today!
Nosed
> > down
> > > > and skidded....but all's ok!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:W-OdnQ9Kgs_ZK33dRVn-sA@gbronline.com...
> > > > > Exactly. A combination valve is also called a proportioning valve.
> It
> > > > > distributes the braking power heavily to the front brakes and
> > > > > much less so to the rears. On a TJ, the front brakes do the lion's
> > share
> > > > of
> > > > > the braking, probably 80 to 90%.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

but if it's so hard to add resistance to the rear wheels by braking....well,
I don't know why I'm going on about this...it OBVIOUSLY work, else you would
do it no more!


"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:4RkEc.6503$Qj6.2616@fed1read05...
> It works in both 4wd and 2wd. This technique works with open axles too,
> it's been in use since Model T days when most vehicles got stuck more due
to
> there being more unpaved roads back then. :)
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:_MkEc.610038$Ar.54344@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com...
> > Hmm....so, with the limited slip....the whole brake trick to get rid of
> the
> > single wheel spin....will that work in 2WD? or only 4??
> > "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> > news:TK2dncYE8b_WxXzd4p2dnA@gbronline.com...
> > > Yep. On most cars, the front brakes do about 70% (+) of the braking.
On
> > the
> > > TJ, because of the extra short wheelbase, the fronts
> > > do MUCH more of the braking. The rears do very little of the actual
> > braking.
> > >
> > > Try this test. Raise the rear wheels off the ground with a floor jack
or
> > > jack stands. With the engine at IDLE and with the transfer case in
> 2-wheel
> > > drive, put the transmission in drive or 1st gear, then try to stop the
> > rear
> > > wheels from moving with only the foot brake. On my 6-cyl TJ with 3.73
> rear
> > > axel ratio, it is almost impossible to stop the rears, even while
> mashing
> > > the foot brake with all my might. Applying the parking brake will stop
> the
> > > rears easily.
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:O94Ec.322$T6i.195@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.r ogers.com...
> > > > Wow...do the front actually do that much?
> > > >
> > > > Sure feels like it the way the front dives down....
> > > > actually shared an **** clenching experience with a dog today!
Nosed
> > down
> > > > and skidded....but all's ok!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:W-OdnQ9Kgs_ZK33dRVn-sA@gbronline.com...
> > > > > Exactly. A combination valve is also called a proportioning valve.
> It
> > > > > distributes the braking power heavily to the front brakes and
> > > > > much less so to the rears. On a TJ, the front brakes do the lion's
> > share
> > > > of
> > > > > the braking, probably 80 to 90%.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

but if it's so hard to add resistance to the rear wheels by braking....well,
I don't know why I'm going on about this...it OBVIOUSLY work, else you would
do it no more!


"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:4RkEc.6503$Qj6.2616@fed1read05...
> It works in both 4wd and 2wd. This technique works with open axles too,
> it's been in use since Model T days when most vehicles got stuck more due
to
> there being more unpaved roads back then. :)
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:_MkEc.610038$Ar.54344@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com...
> > Hmm....so, with the limited slip....the whole brake trick to get rid of
> the
> > single wheel spin....will that work in 2WD? or only 4??
> > "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> > news:TK2dncYE8b_WxXzd4p2dnA@gbronline.com...
> > > Yep. On most cars, the front brakes do about 70% (+) of the braking.
On
> > the
> > > TJ, because of the extra short wheelbase, the fronts
> > > do MUCH more of the braking. The rears do very little of the actual
> > braking.
> > >
> > > Try this test. Raise the rear wheels off the ground with a floor jack
or
> > > jack stands. With the engine at IDLE and with the transfer case in
> 2-wheel
> > > drive, put the transmission in drive or 1st gear, then try to stop the
> > rear
> > > wheels from moving with only the foot brake. On my 6-cyl TJ with 3.73
> rear
> > > axel ratio, it is almost impossible to stop the rears, even while
> mashing
> > > the foot brake with all my might. Applying the parking brake will stop
> the
> > > rears easily.
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:O94Ec.322$T6i.195@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.r ogers.com...
> > > > Wow...do the front actually do that much?
> > > >
> > > > Sure feels like it the way the front dives down....
> > > > actually shared an **** clenching experience with a dog today!
Nosed
> > down
> > > > and skidded....but all's ok!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:W-OdnQ9Kgs_ZK33dRVn-sA@gbronline.com...
> > > > > Exactly. A combination valve is also called a proportioning valve.
> It
> > > > > distributes the braking power heavily to the front brakes and
> > > > > much less so to the rears. On a TJ, the front brakes do the lion's
> > share
> > > > of
> > > > > the braking, probably 80 to 90%.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

but if it's so hard to add resistance to the rear wheels by braking....well,
I don't know why I'm going on about this...it OBVIOUSLY work, else you would
do it no more!


"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:4RkEc.6503$Qj6.2616@fed1read05...
> It works in both 4wd and 2wd. This technique works with open axles too,
> it's been in use since Model T days when most vehicles got stuck more due
to
> there being more unpaved roads back then. :)
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:_MkEc.610038$Ar.54344@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com...
> > Hmm....so, with the limited slip....the whole brake trick to get rid of
> the
> > single wheel spin....will that work in 2WD? or only 4??
> > "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> > news:TK2dncYE8b_WxXzd4p2dnA@gbronline.com...
> > > Yep. On most cars, the front brakes do about 70% (+) of the braking.
On
> > the
> > > TJ, because of the extra short wheelbase, the fronts
> > > do MUCH more of the braking. The rears do very little of the actual
> > braking.
> > >
> > > Try this test. Raise the rear wheels off the ground with a floor jack
or
> > > jack stands. With the engine at IDLE and with the transfer case in
> 2-wheel
> > > drive, put the transmission in drive or 1st gear, then try to stop the
> > rear
> > > wheels from moving with only the foot brake. On my 6-cyl TJ with 3.73
> rear
> > > axel ratio, it is almost impossible to stop the rears, even while
> mashing
> > > the foot brake with all my might. Applying the parking brake will stop
> the
> > > rears easily.
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:O94Ec.322$T6i.195@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.r ogers.com...
> > > > Wow...do the front actually do that much?
> > > >
> > > > Sure feels like it the way the front dives down....
> > > > actually shared an **** clenching experience with a dog today!
Nosed
> > down
> > > > and skidded....but all's ok!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:W-OdnQ9Kgs_ZK33dRVn-sA@gbronline.com...
> > > > > Exactly. A combination valve is also called a proportioning valve.
> It
> > > > > distributes the braking power heavily to the front brakes and
> > > > > much less so to the rears. On a TJ, the front brakes do the lion's
> > share
> > > > of
> > > > > the braking, probably 80 to 90%.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

 

Both.

I can get my open rear spinning up both tires and sometimes the front as
well, but the drum brakes seem to be better at slowly modifying the
torque rather then the hit disks give.

The valve is dynamic, it sends so much pressure to the rears, then
shunts the rest front, then brings it back to the rear for the final
stop.

If the fronts stop really easy, no more pressure goes to the rears, if
the fronts stop hard, you 'can' lock the rears as you come to a stop.

I think that's why the jack in the air thing works so well to totally
confuse folks.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

SB wrote:
>
> Hmm....so, with the limited slip....the whole brake trick to get rid of the
> single wheel spin....will that work in 2WD? or only 4??
> "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> news:TK2dncYE8b_WxXzd4p2dnA@gbronline.com...
> > Yep. On most cars, the front brakes do about 70% (+) of the braking. On
> the
> > TJ, because of the extra short wheelbase, the fronts
> > do MUCH more of the braking. The rears do very little of the actual
> braking.
> >
> > Try this test. Raise the rear wheels off the ground with a floor jack or
> > jack stands. With the engine at IDLE and with the transfer case in 2-wheel
> > drive, put the transmission in drive or 1st gear, then try to stop the
> rear
> > wheels from moving with only the foot brake. On my 6-cyl TJ with 3.73 rear
> > axel ratio, it is almost impossible to stop the rears, even while mashing
> > the foot brake with all my might. Applying the parking brake will stop the
> > rears easily.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:O94Ec.322$T6i.195@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.r ogers.com...
> > > Wow...do the front actually do that much?
> > >
> > > Sure feels like it the way the front dives down....
> > > actually shared an **** clenching experience with a dog today! Nosed
> down
> > > and skidded....but all's ok!
> > >
> > >
> > > "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> > > news:W-OdnQ9Kgs_ZK33dRVn-sA@gbronline.com...
> > > > Exactly. A combination valve is also called a proportioning valve. It
> > > > distributes the braking power heavily to the front brakes and
> > > > much less so to the rears. On a TJ, the front brakes do the lion's
> share
> > > of
> > > > the braking, probably 80 to 90%.
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> >
> >

 

Both.

I can get my open rear spinning up both tires and sometimes the front as
well, but the drum brakes seem to be better at slowly modifying the
torque rather then the hit disks give.

The valve is dynamic, it sends so much pressure to the rears, then
shunts the rest front, then brings it back to the rear for the final
stop.

If the fronts stop really easy, no more pressure goes to the rears, if
the fronts stop hard, you 'can' lock the rears as you come to a stop.

I think that's why the jack in the air thing works so well to totally
confuse folks.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

SB wrote:
>
> Hmm....so, with the limited slip....the whole brake trick to get rid of the
> single wheel spin....will that work in 2WD? or only 4??
> "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> news:TK2dncYE8b_WxXzd4p2dnA@gbronline.com...
> > Yep. On most cars, the front brakes do about 70% (+) of the braking. On
> the
> > TJ, because of the extra short wheelbase, the fronts
> > do MUCH more of the braking. The rears do very little of the actual
> braking.
> >
> > Try this test. Raise the rear wheels off the ground with a floor jack or
> > jack stands. With the engine at IDLE and with the transfer case in 2-wheel
> > drive, put the transmission in drive or 1st gear, then try to stop the
> rear
> > wheels from moving with only the foot brake. On my 6-cyl TJ with 3.73 rear
> > axel ratio, it is almost impossible to stop the rears, even while mashing
> > the foot brake with all my might. Applying the parking brake will stop the
> > rears easily.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:O94Ec.322$T6i.195@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.r ogers.com...
> > > Wow...do the front actually do that much?
> > >
> > > Sure feels like it the way the front dives down....
> > > actually shared an **** clenching experience with a dog today! Nosed
> down
> > > and skidded....but all's ok!
> > >
> > >
> > > "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> > > news:W-OdnQ9Kgs_ZK33dRVn-sA@gbronline.com...
> > > > Exactly. A combination valve is also called a proportioning valve. It
> > > > distributes the braking power heavily to the front brakes and
> > > > much less so to the rears. On a TJ, the front brakes do the lion's
> share
> > > of
> > > > the braking, probably 80 to 90%.
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> >
> >

 

Both.

I can get my open rear spinning up both tires and sometimes the front as
well, but the drum brakes seem to be better at slowly modifying the
torque rather then the hit disks give.

The valve is dynamic, it sends so much pressure to the rears, then
shunts the rest front, then brings it back to the rear for the final
stop.

If the fronts stop really easy, no more pressure goes to the rears, if
the fronts stop hard, you 'can' lock the rears as you come to a stop.

I think that's why the jack in the air thing works so well to totally
confuse folks.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

SB wrote:
>
> Hmm....so, with the limited slip....the whole brake trick to get rid of the
> single wheel spin....will that work in 2WD? or only 4??
> "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> news:TK2dncYE8b_WxXzd4p2dnA@gbronline.com...
> > Yep. On most cars, the front brakes do about 70% (+) of the braking. On
> the
> > TJ, because of the extra short wheelbase, the fronts
> > do MUCH more of the braking. The rears do very little of the actual
> braking.
> >
> > Try this test. Raise the rear wheels off the ground with a floor jack or
> > jack stands. With the engine at IDLE and with the transfer case in 2-wheel
> > drive, put the transmission in drive or 1st gear, then try to stop the
> rear
> > wheels from moving with only the foot brake. On my 6-cyl TJ with 3.73 rear
> > axel ratio, it is almost impossible to stop the rears, even while mashing
> > the foot brake with all my might. Applying the parking brake will stop the
> > rears easily.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:O94Ec.322$T6i.195@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.r ogers.com...
> > > Wow...do the front actually do that much?
> > >
> > > Sure feels like it the way the front dives down....
> > > actually shared an **** clenching experience with a dog today! Nosed
> down
> > > and skidded....but all's ok!
> > >
> > >
> > > "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> > > news:W-OdnQ9Kgs_ZK33dRVn-sA@gbronline.com...
> > > > Exactly. A combination valve is also called a proportioning valve. It
> > > > distributes the braking power heavily to the front brakes and
> > > > much less so to the rears. On a TJ, the front brakes do the lion's
> share
> > > of
> > > > the braking, probably 80 to 90%.
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> >
> >

 

Both.

I can get my open rear spinning up both tires and sometimes the front as
well, but the drum brakes seem to be better at slowly modifying the
torque rather then the hit disks give.

The valve is dynamic, it sends so much pressure to the rears, then
shunts the rest front, then brings it back to the rear for the final
stop.

If the fronts stop really easy, no more pressure goes to the rears, if
the fronts stop hard, you 'can' lock the rears as you come to a stop.

I think that's why the jack in the air thing works so well to totally
confuse folks.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

SB wrote:
>
> Hmm....so, with the limited slip....the whole brake trick to get rid of the
> single wheel spin....will that work in 2WD? or only 4??
> "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> news:TK2dncYE8b_WxXzd4p2dnA@gbronline.com...
> > Yep. On most cars, the front brakes do about 70% (+) of the braking. On
> the
> > TJ, because of the extra short wheelbase, the fronts
> > do MUCH more of the braking. The rears do very little of the actual
> braking.
> >
> > Try this test. Raise the rear wheels off the ground with a floor jack or
> > jack stands. With the engine at IDLE and with the transfer case in 2-wheel
> > drive, put the transmission in drive or 1st gear, then try to stop the
> rear
> > wheels from moving with only the foot brake. On my 6-cyl TJ with 3.73 rear
> > axel ratio, it is almost impossible to stop the rears, even while mashing
> > the foot brake with all my might. Applying the parking brake will stop the
> > rears easily.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:O94Ec.322$T6i.195@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.r ogers.com...
> > > Wow...do the front actually do that much?
> > >
> > > Sure feels like it the way the front dives down....
> > > actually shared an **** clenching experience with a dog today! Nosed
> down
> > > and skidded....but all's ok!
> > >
> > >
> > > "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> > > news:W-OdnQ9Kgs_ZK33dRVn-sA@gbronline.com...
> > > > Exactly. A combination valve is also called a proportioning valve. It
> > > > distributes the braking power heavily to the front brakes and
> > > > much less so to the rears. On a TJ, the front brakes do the lion's
> share
> > > of
> > > > the braking, probably 80 to 90%.
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> >
> >

 

Jack in the air thing?


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40E1DDD0.55148A82@sympatico.ca...
> Both.
>
> I can get my open rear spinning up both tires and sometimes the front as
> well, but the drum brakes seem to be better at slowly modifying the
> torque rather then the hit disks give.
>
> The valve is dynamic, it sends so much pressure to the rears, then
> shunts the rest front, then brings it back to the rear for the final
> stop.
>
> If the fronts stop really easy, no more pressure goes to the rears, if
> the fronts stop hard, you 'can' lock the rears as you come to a stop.
>
> I think that's why the jack in the air thing works so well to totally
> confuse folks.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > Hmm....so, with the limited slip....the whole brake trick to get rid of
the
> > single wheel spin....will that work in 2WD? or only 4??
> > "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> > news:TK2dncYE8b_WxXzd4p2dnA@gbronline.com...
> > > Yep. On most cars, the front brakes do about 70% (+) of the braking.
On
> > the
> > > TJ, because of the extra short wheelbase, the fronts
> > > do MUCH more of the braking. The rears do very little of the actual
> > braking.
> > >
> > > Try this test. Raise the rear wheels off the ground with a floor jack
or
> > > jack stands. With the engine at IDLE and with the transfer case in
2-wheel
> > > drive, put the transmission in drive or 1st gear, then try to stop the
> > rear
> > > wheels from moving with only the foot brake. On my 6-cyl TJ with 3.73
rear
> > > axel ratio, it is almost impossible to stop the rears, even while
mashing
> > > the foot brake with all my might. Applying the parking brake will stop
the
> > > rears easily.
> > >
> > > Tom
> > >
> > > "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:O94Ec.322$T6i.195@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.r ogers.com...
> > > > Wow...do the front actually do that much?
> > > >
> > > > Sure feels like it the way the front dives down....
> > > > actually shared an **** clenching experience with a dog today!
Nosed
> > down
> > > > and skidded....but all's ok!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "mabar" <mabar@NoSpamgrbonline.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:W-OdnQ9Kgs_ZK33dRVn-sA@gbronline.com...
> > > > > Exactly. A combination valve is also called a proportioning valve.
It
> > > > > distributes the braking power heavily to the front brakes and
> > > > > much less so to the rears. On a TJ, the front brakes do the lion's
> > share
> > > > of
> > > > > the braking, probably 80 to 90%.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom
> > >
> > >