Re: Winch question
 

Mike Romain wrote:

> They do make good gloves for running plumbing power snakes. They look
> something like the Warn gloves. They have mesh in them, but a spur can
> still grab you.
>
> The only time I get my hands near it is at the last 6-10 feet for the
> last winding.
>
> I have worked around too many cables and heavy equipment to ever get
> close to a moving loaded cable. The things do bite.
>
> Mike
>

Mike,
How long is the piece of hardwood you use to guide the cable? What is it
shaped like? Maybe with a V shape cut into the end?

--
Keith
98 TJ
86 Mustang GT

Re: Winch question
 

Roughly 12/29/03 14:38, KH's monkeys randomly typed:

> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> They do make good gloves for running plumbing power snakes. They look
>> something like the Warn gloves. They have mesh in them, but a spur can
>> still grab you.
>>
>> The only time I get my hands near it is at the last 6-10 feet for the
>> last winding.
>>
>> I have worked around too many cables and heavy equipment to ever get
>> close to a moving loaded cable. The things do bite.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
> Mike,
> How long is the piece of hardwood you use to guide the cable? What is it
> shaped like? Maybe with a V shape cut into the end?
>

Unless the wood is really hard, it will become notched. We used to
use two different methods for the twisted steel logging cables. One
was a steel rod a few feet long with a simple pulley on the end that
could shove the cable back and forth as needed. The other was a
small spider pulley on a metal axle that was part of the winch, it
could be shoved back and forth with whatever hunka tree was
available. Few guys lost hand parts trying to do it by hand,
pretty much similar to what happens when a cable spur grabs
your hand when you aren't expecting it like Mike says. If
the cable lets go it can remove teeth, limbs, heads, etc.
even with a good whip blanket on it.

--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.

Re: Winch question
 

Roughly 12/29/03 14:38, KH's monkeys randomly typed:

> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> They do make good gloves for running plumbing power snakes. They look
>> something like the Warn gloves. They have mesh in them, but a spur can
>> still grab you.
>>
>> The only time I get my hands near it is at the last 6-10 feet for the
>> last winding.
>>
>> I have worked around too many cables and heavy equipment to ever get
>> close to a moving loaded cable. The things do bite.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
> Mike,
> How long is the piece of hardwood you use to guide the cable? What is it
> shaped like? Maybe with a V shape cut into the end?
>

Unless the wood is really hard, it will become notched. We used to
use two different methods for the twisted steel logging cables. One
was a steel rod a few feet long with a simple pulley on the end that
could shove the cable back and forth as needed. The other was a
small spider pulley on a metal axle that was part of the winch, it
could be shoved back and forth with whatever hunka tree was
available. Few guys lost hand parts trying to do it by hand,
pretty much similar to what happens when a cable spur grabs
your hand when you aren't expecting it like Mike says. If
the cable lets go it can remove teeth, limbs, heads, etc.
even with a good whip blanket on it.

--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.

Re: Winch question
 

Roughly 12/29/03 14:38, KH's monkeys randomly typed:

> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> They do make good gloves for running plumbing power snakes. They look
>> something like the Warn gloves. They have mesh in them, but a spur can
>> still grab you.
>>
>> The only time I get my hands near it is at the last 6-10 feet for the
>> last winding.
>>
>> I have worked around too many cables and heavy equipment to ever get
>> close to a moving loaded cable. The things do bite.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
> Mike,
> How long is the piece of hardwood you use to guide the cable? What is it
> shaped like? Maybe with a V shape cut into the end?
>

Unless the wood is really hard, it will become notched. We used to
use two different methods for the twisted steel logging cables. One
was a steel rod a few feet long with a simple pulley on the end that
could shove the cable back and forth as needed. The other was a
small spider pulley on a metal axle that was part of the winch, it
could be shoved back and forth with whatever hunka tree was
available. Few guys lost hand parts trying to do it by hand,
pretty much similar to what happens when a cable spur grabs
your hand when you aren't expecting it like Mike says. If
the cable lets go it can remove teeth, limbs, heads, etc.
even with a good whip blanket on it.

--
Fan of the dumbest team in America.

Re: Winch question
 

L0nD0t.$t0we11 wrote:

> Roughly 12/29/03 14:38, KH's monkeys randomly typed:
>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>> They do make good gloves for running plumbing power snakes. They look
>>> something like the Warn gloves. They have mesh in them, but a spur can
>>> still grab you.
>>>
>>> The only time I get my hands near it is at the last 6-10 feet for the
>>> last winding.
>>>
>>> I have worked around too many cables and heavy equipment to ever get
>>> close to a moving loaded cable. The things do bite.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>
>> Mike,
>> How long is the piece of hardwood you use to guide the cable? What is it
>> shaped like? Maybe with a V shape cut into the end?
>>
>
> Unless the wood is really hard, it will become notched. We used to
> use two different methods for the twisted steel logging cables. One
> was a steel rod a few feet long with a simple pulley on the end that
> could shove the cable back and forth as needed. The other was a
> small spider pulley on a metal axle that was part of the winch, it
> could be shoved back and forth with whatever hunka tree was
> available. Few guys lost hand parts trying to do it by hand,
> pretty much similar to what happens when a cable spur grabs
> your hand when you aren't expecting it like Mike says. If
> the cable lets go it can remove teeth, limbs, heads, etc.
> even with a good whip blanket on it.
>

Sounds like the wire cable can be a bit of a problem, anyone using the winch
'rope'. I'm not exactly sure what it's called but it replaces the wire
with rope and doesn't whiplash when it breaks or crush/kink. It looks like
about 4 times the price but it might be worth it given all the problems
wire cable seems to have.

--
Keith
98 TJ
86 Mustang GT

Re: Winch question
 

L0nD0t.$t0we11 wrote:

> Roughly 12/29/03 14:38, KH's monkeys randomly typed:
>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>> They do make good gloves for running plumbing power snakes. They look
>>> something like the Warn gloves. They have mesh in them, but a spur can
>>> still grab you.
>>>
>>> The only time I get my hands near it is at the last 6-10 feet for the
>>> last winding.
>>>
>>> I have worked around too many cables and heavy equipment to ever get
>>> close to a moving loaded cable. The things do bite.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>
>> Mike,
>> How long is the piece of hardwood you use to guide the cable? What is it
>> shaped like? Maybe with a V shape cut into the end?
>>
>
> Unless the wood is really hard, it will become notched. We used to
> use two different methods for the twisted steel logging cables. One
> was a steel rod a few feet long with a simple pulley on the end that
> could shove the cable back and forth as needed. The other was a
> small spider pulley on a metal axle that was part of the winch, it
> could be shoved back and forth with whatever hunka tree was
> available. Few guys lost hand parts trying to do it by hand,
> pretty much similar to what happens when a cable spur grabs
> your hand when you aren't expecting it like Mike says. If
> the cable lets go it can remove teeth, limbs, heads, etc.
> even with a good whip blanket on it.
>

Sounds like the wire cable can be a bit of a problem, anyone using the winch
'rope'. I'm not exactly sure what it's called but it replaces the wire
with rope and doesn't whiplash when it breaks or crush/kink. It looks like
about 4 times the price but it might be worth it given all the problems
wire cable seems to have.

--
Keith
98 TJ
86 Mustang GT

Re: Winch question
 

L0nD0t.$t0we11 wrote:

> Roughly 12/29/03 14:38, KH's monkeys randomly typed:
>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>>
>>> They do make good gloves for running plumbing power snakes. They look
>>> something like the Warn gloves. They have mesh in them, but a spur can
>>> still grab you.
>>>
>>> The only time I get my hands near it is at the last 6-10 feet for the
>>> last winding.
>>>
>>> I have worked around too many cables and heavy equipment to ever get
>>> close to a moving loaded cable. The things do bite.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>
>> Mike,
>> How long is the piece of hardwood you use to guide the cable? What is it
>> shaped like? Maybe with a V shape cut into the end?
>>
>
> Unless the wood is really hard, it will become notched. We used to
> use two different methods for the twisted steel logging cables. One
> was a steel rod a few feet long with a simple pulley on the end that
> could shove the cable back and forth as needed. The other was a
> small spider pulley on a metal axle that was part of the winch, it
> could be shoved back and forth with whatever hunka tree was
> available. Few guys lost hand parts trying to do it by hand,
> pretty much similar to what happens when a cable spur grabs
> your hand when you aren't expecting it like Mike says. If
> the cable lets go it can remove teeth, limbs, heads, etc.
> even with a good whip blanket on it.
>

Sounds like the wire cable can be a bit of a problem, anyone using the winch
'rope'. I'm not exactly sure what it's called but it replaces the wire
with rope and doesn't whiplash when it breaks or crush/kink. It looks like
about 4 times the price but it might be worth it given all the problems
wire cable seems to have.

--
Keith
98 TJ
86 Mustang GT

Re: Winch question
 

Ah... you see there is another problem. Two of our members are judges at
ERoCC events, and they have seen many a synthetic winch rope break during
recovery. The competitors (after righting their vehicles after the roll)
simply tie a knot in it and try again.

JimG

"KH" <me@home.com> wrote in message news:IB2Ib.8377$xX.19198@attbi_s02...
> L0nD0t.$t0we11 wrote:
>
> > Roughly 12/29/03 14:38, KH's monkeys randomly typed:
> >
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>> They do make good gloves for running plumbing power snakes. They look
> >>> something like the Warn gloves. They have mesh in them, but a spur
can
> >>> still grab you.
> >>>
> >>> The only time I get my hands near it is at the last 6-10 feet for the
> >>> last winding.
> >>>
> >>> I have worked around too many cables and heavy equipment to ever get
> >>> close to a moving loaded cable. The things do bite.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>
> >> Mike,
> >> How long is the piece of hardwood you use to guide the cable? What is
it
> >> shaped like? Maybe with a V shape cut into the end?
> >>
> >
> > Unless the wood is really hard, it will become notched. We used to
> > use two different methods for the twisted steel logging cables. One
> > was a steel rod a few feet long with a simple pulley on the end that
> > could shove the cable back and forth as needed. The other was a
> > small spider pulley on a metal axle that was part of the winch, it
> > could be shoved back and forth with whatever hunka tree was
> > available. Few guys lost hand parts trying to do it by hand,
> > pretty much similar to what happens when a cable spur grabs
> > your hand when you aren't expecting it like Mike says. If
> > the cable lets go it can remove teeth, limbs, heads, etc.
> > even with a good whip blanket on it.
> >
>
> Sounds like the wire cable can be a bit of a problem, anyone using the
winch
> 'rope'. I'm not exactly sure what it's called but it replaces the wire
> with rope and doesn't whiplash when it breaks or crush/kink. It looks
like
> about 4 times the price but it might be worth it given all the problems
> wire cable seems to have.
>
> --
> Keith
> 98 TJ
> 86 Mustang GT

Re: Winch question
 

Ah... you see there is another problem. Two of our members are judges at
ERoCC events, and they have seen many a synthetic winch rope break during
recovery. The competitors (after righting their vehicles after the roll)
simply tie a knot in it and try again.

JimG

"KH" <me@home.com> wrote in message news:IB2Ib.8377$xX.19198@attbi_s02...
> L0nD0t.$t0we11 wrote:
>
> > Roughly 12/29/03 14:38, KH's monkeys randomly typed:
> >
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>> They do make good gloves for running plumbing power snakes. They look
> >>> something like the Warn gloves. They have mesh in them, but a spur
can
> >>> still grab you.
> >>>
> >>> The only time I get my hands near it is at the last 6-10 feet for the
> >>> last winding.
> >>>
> >>> I have worked around too many cables and heavy equipment to ever get
> >>> close to a moving loaded cable. The things do bite.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>
> >> Mike,
> >> How long is the piece of hardwood you use to guide the cable? What is
it
> >> shaped like? Maybe with a V shape cut into the end?
> >>
> >
> > Unless the wood is really hard, it will become notched. We used to
> > use two different methods for the twisted steel logging cables. One
> > was a steel rod a few feet long with a simple pulley on the end that
> > could shove the cable back and forth as needed. The other was a
> > small spider pulley on a metal axle that was part of the winch, it
> > could be shoved back and forth with whatever hunka tree was
> > available. Few guys lost hand parts trying to do it by hand,
> > pretty much similar to what happens when a cable spur grabs
> > your hand when you aren't expecting it like Mike says. If
> > the cable lets go it can remove teeth, limbs, heads, etc.
> > even with a good whip blanket on it.
> >
>
> Sounds like the wire cable can be a bit of a problem, anyone using the
winch
> 'rope'. I'm not exactly sure what it's called but it replaces the wire
> with rope and doesn't whiplash when it breaks or crush/kink. It looks
like
> about 4 times the price but it might be worth it given all the problems
> wire cable seems to have.
>
> --
> Keith
> 98 TJ
> 86 Mustang GT

Re: Winch question
 

Ah... you see there is another problem. Two of our members are judges at
ERoCC events, and they have seen many a synthetic winch rope break during
recovery. The competitors (after righting their vehicles after the roll)
simply tie a knot in it and try again.

JimG

"KH" <me@home.com> wrote in message news:IB2Ib.8377$xX.19198@attbi_s02...
> L0nD0t.$t0we11 wrote:
>
> > Roughly 12/29/03 14:38, KH's monkeys randomly typed:
> >
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>> They do make good gloves for running plumbing power snakes. They look
> >>> something like the Warn gloves. They have mesh in them, but a spur
can
> >>> still grab you.
> >>>
> >>> The only time I get my hands near it is at the last 6-10 feet for the
> >>> last winding.
> >>>
> >>> I have worked around too many cables and heavy equipment to ever get
> >>> close to a moving loaded cable. The things do bite.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>
> >> Mike,
> >> How long is the piece of hardwood you use to guide the cable? What is
it
> >> shaped like? Maybe with a V shape cut into the end?
> >>
> >
> > Unless the wood is really hard, it will become notched. We used to
> > use two different methods for the twisted steel logging cables. One
> > was a steel rod a few feet long with a simple pulley on the end that
> > could shove the cable back and forth as needed. The other was a
> > small spider pulley on a metal axle that was part of the winch, it
> > could be shoved back and forth with whatever hunka tree was
> > available. Few guys lost hand parts trying to do it by hand,
> > pretty much similar to what happens when a cable spur grabs
> > your hand when you aren't expecting it like Mike says. If
> > the cable lets go it can remove teeth, limbs, heads, etc.
> > even with a good whip blanket on it.
> >
>
> Sounds like the wire cable can be a bit of a problem, anyone using the
winch
> 'rope'. I'm not exactly sure what it's called but it replaces the wire
> with rope and doesn't whiplash when it breaks or crush/kink. It looks
like
> about 4 times the price but it might be worth it given all the problems
> wire cable seems to have.
>
> --
> Keith
> 98 TJ
> 86 Mustang GT