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Del Rawlins 12-28-2003 10:56 PM

Re: Winch question
 
On 28 Dec 2003 12:59 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:

> Dual batteries are nice but not necessary. I've been using a single
> Optima Yellow Top battery with my Warn HS9500i and it has gotten me
> through lots of winching, including some all-day winching episodes.


I'm still using the single battery that came stock in my TJ, and I can
winch all day continuously without draining it. 8^)

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Del Rawlins 12-28-2003 10:56 PM

Re: Winch question
 
On 28 Dec 2003 12:59 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:

> Dual batteries are nice but not necessary. I've been using a single
> Optima Yellow Top battery with my Warn HS9500i and it has gotten me
> through lots of winching, including some all-day winching episodes.


I'm still using the single battery that came stock in my TJ, and I can
winch all day continuously without draining it. 8^)

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Jerry Bransford 12-28-2003 11:48 PM

Re: Winch question
 
"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20031228185245724-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> On 28 Dec 2003 12:59 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
>
> > Dual batteries are nice but not necessary. I've been using a single
> > Optima Yellow Top battery with my Warn HS9500i and it has gotten me
> > through lots of winching, including some all-day winching episodes.

>
> I'm still using the single battery that came stock in my TJ, and I can
> winch all day continuously without draining it. 8^)


Heh, Del's tongue-in-cheek comment is more meaningful if you know he's
talking about his Milemarker hydraulic winch. (that I sold him after winning
it in a drawing) :)

Jerry
--
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>
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Jerry Bransford 12-28-2003 11:48 PM

Re: Winch question
 
"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20031228185245724-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> On 28 Dec 2003 12:59 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
>
> > Dual batteries are nice but not necessary. I've been using a single
> > Optima Yellow Top battery with my Warn HS9500i and it has gotten me
> > through lots of winching, including some all-day winching episodes.

>
> I'm still using the single battery that came stock in my TJ, and I can
> winch all day continuously without draining it. 8^)


Heh, Del's tongue-in-cheek comment is more meaningful if you know he's
talking about his Milemarker hydraulic winch. (that I sold him after winning
it in a drawing) :)

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

>
> ----------------------------------------------------
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> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
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Jerry Bransford 12-28-2003 11:48 PM

Re: Winch question
 
"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20031228185245724-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> On 28 Dec 2003 12:59 PM, Jerry Bransford posted the following:
>
> > Dual batteries are nice but not necessary. I've been using a single
> > Optima Yellow Top battery with my Warn HS9500i and it has gotten me
> > through lots of winching, including some all-day winching episodes.

>
> I'm still using the single battery that came stock in my TJ, and I can
> winch all day continuously without draining it. 8^)


Heh, Del's tongue-in-cheek comment is more meaningful if you know he's
talking about his Milemarker hydraulic winch. (that I sold him after winning
it in a drawing) :)

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
To email, remove 'me' from my email address
KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
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Mike Romain 12-29-2003 08:26 AM

Re: Winch question
 
You folks will be eating up winch cables fast and getting to know the
local emergency room doctors quickly.

Once you have 'hand' wound it on for the first time DO NOT EVER use
gloves to wind it back on the second or successive times!!!

The cable will pull in between the loops on the drum because you cannot
get it even close to tight using only part or even all of your body
weight.

This will fray the cable on the next use and the next time you go to
wind it in there could/will be be spurs that 'will' grab your glove and
your hand and wind them up with the cable.

The Warn XD9000i is far too fast and you will not be able to stop it in
time to prevent you hand from being sucked into the spool when one of
the cable spurs grabs it.

A piece of hardwood with a notch in it is far safer to use to guide the
cable even on the spool. Something like one uses on a table saw for rip
cuts.

I pull another Jeep or mine up a slight hill or with my wife holding the
brake when I wind mine up after a run.

I will use a person as an anchor just to get it back spooled if it is in
constant use, but then I won't go near mine with my hands or gloves
either.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Terry Jeffrey wrote:
>
> Yup, this is all that is needed to respool. Use gloves too :)
>
> Keith - you'll like the XD9000i. No problems yet with mine, and it sure
> looks good!
>
> Terry.
>
> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:qpIHb.32191$LY4.10332@news01.roc.ny...
> > If available I have someone hold the hook with the cable extended, as I
> > guide it back on. If no help is available, a tight grip on the cable

> while
> > being re-spooled will do.
> >
> > JimG
> >
> > "KH" <me@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:VbIHb.687061$Fm2.593662@attbi_s04...
> > > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > > Nice choice for your winch! There is no way that you can (or should)

> > try
> > > > to
> > > > guide the cable while winching the weight of your Jeep. Re-spool the
> > > > cable once your done, so it will be right for the next job.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > JimG
> > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > >
> > >
> > > OK, but I thought it was supposed to always be re-spooled *under load*

> so
> > > the higher layers don't cut into the lower. So then how do you make it

> > neat
> > > under load??
> > >
> > > BTW, how much benefit do you find with the dual battey setup?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Keith
> > > 98 TJ
> > > 86 Mustang GT

> >
> >


Mike Romain 12-29-2003 08:26 AM

Re: Winch question
 
You folks will be eating up winch cables fast and getting to know the
local emergency room doctors quickly.

Once you have 'hand' wound it on for the first time DO NOT EVER use
gloves to wind it back on the second or successive times!!!

The cable will pull in between the loops on the drum because you cannot
get it even close to tight using only part or even all of your body
weight.

This will fray the cable on the next use and the next time you go to
wind it in there could/will be be spurs that 'will' grab your glove and
your hand and wind them up with the cable.

The Warn XD9000i is far too fast and you will not be able to stop it in
time to prevent you hand from being sucked into the spool when one of
the cable spurs grabs it.

A piece of hardwood with a notch in it is far safer to use to guide the
cable even on the spool. Something like one uses on a table saw for rip
cuts.

I pull another Jeep or mine up a slight hill or with my wife holding the
brake when I wind mine up after a run.

I will use a person as an anchor just to get it back spooled if it is in
constant use, but then I won't go near mine with my hands or gloves
either.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Terry Jeffrey wrote:
>
> Yup, this is all that is needed to respool. Use gloves too :)
>
> Keith - you'll like the XD9000i. No problems yet with mine, and it sure
> looks good!
>
> Terry.
>
> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:qpIHb.32191$LY4.10332@news01.roc.ny...
> > If available I have someone hold the hook with the cable extended, as I
> > guide it back on. If no help is available, a tight grip on the cable

> while
> > being re-spooled will do.
> >
> > JimG
> >
> > "KH" <me@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:VbIHb.687061$Fm2.593662@attbi_s04...
> > > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > > Nice choice for your winch! There is no way that you can (or should)

> > try
> > > > to
> > > > guide the cable while winching the weight of your Jeep. Re-spool the
> > > > cable once your done, so it will be right for the next job.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > JimG
> > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > >
> > >
> > > OK, but I thought it was supposed to always be re-spooled *under load*

> so
> > > the higher layers don't cut into the lower. So then how do you make it

> > neat
> > > under load??
> > >
> > > BTW, how much benefit do you find with the dual battey setup?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Keith
> > > 98 TJ
> > > 86 Mustang GT

> >
> >


Mike Romain 12-29-2003 08:26 AM

Re: Winch question
 
You folks will be eating up winch cables fast and getting to know the
local emergency room doctors quickly.

Once you have 'hand' wound it on for the first time DO NOT EVER use
gloves to wind it back on the second or successive times!!!

The cable will pull in between the loops on the drum because you cannot
get it even close to tight using only part or even all of your body
weight.

This will fray the cable on the next use and the next time you go to
wind it in there could/will be be spurs that 'will' grab your glove and
your hand and wind them up with the cable.

The Warn XD9000i is far too fast and you will not be able to stop it in
time to prevent you hand from being sucked into the spool when one of
the cable spurs grabs it.

A piece of hardwood with a notch in it is far safer to use to guide the
cable even on the spool. Something like one uses on a table saw for rip
cuts.

I pull another Jeep or mine up a slight hill or with my wife holding the
brake when I wind mine up after a run.

I will use a person as an anchor just to get it back spooled if it is in
constant use, but then I won't go near mine with my hands or gloves
either.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Terry Jeffrey wrote:
>
> Yup, this is all that is needed to respool. Use gloves too :)
>
> Keith - you'll like the XD9000i. No problems yet with mine, and it sure
> looks good!
>
> Terry.
>
> "JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
> news:qpIHb.32191$LY4.10332@news01.roc.ny...
> > If available I have someone hold the hook with the cable extended, as I
> > guide it back on. If no help is available, a tight grip on the cable

> while
> > being re-spooled will do.
> >
> > JimG
> >
> > "KH" <me@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:VbIHb.687061$Fm2.593662@attbi_s04...
> > > JimG wrote:
> > >
> > > > Nice choice for your winch! There is no way that you can (or should)

> > try
> > > > to
> > > > guide the cable while winching the weight of your Jeep. Re-spool the
> > > > cable once your done, so it will be right for the next job.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > JimG
> > > > 80' CJ-7 258 CID
> > > > 35" BFG MT on 15x10 Centerlines
> > > > D44 Rear, Dana 30 Front. SOA
> > > > 4.56 Gears, LockRight F&R
> > > > Dana 300 w/4:1 & Currie twin sticks
> > > > Warn X8000i w/ dual batteries
> > > >
> > >
> > > OK, but I thought it was supposed to always be re-spooled *under load*

> so
> > > the higher layers don't cut into the lower. So then how do you make it

> > neat
> > > under load??
> > >
> > > BTW, how much benefit do you find with the dual battey setup?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Keith
> > > 98 TJ
> > > 86 Mustang GT

> >
> >


KH 12-29-2003 11:41 AM

Re: Winch question
 
Mike Romain wrote:

> You folks will be eating up winch cables fast and getting to know the
> local emergency room doctors quickly.
>
> Once you have 'hand' wound it on for the first time DO NOT EVER use
> gloves to wind it back on the second or successive times!!!
>
> The cable will pull in between the loops on the drum because you cannot
> get it even close to tight using only part or even all of your body
> weight.
>
> This will fray the cable on the next use and the next time you go to
> wind it in there could/will be be spurs that 'will' grab your glove and
> your hand and wind them up with the cable.
>
> The Warn XD9000i is far too fast and you will not be able to stop it in
> time to prevent you hand from being sucked into the spool when one of
> the cable spurs grabs it.
>
> A piece of hardwood with a notch in it is far safer to use to guide the
> cable even on the spool. Something like one uses on a table saw for rip
> cuts.
>
> I pull another Jeep or mine up a slight hill or with my wife holding the
> brake when I wind mine up after a run.
>
> I will use a person as an anchor just to get it back spooled if it is in
> constant use, but then I won't go near mine with my hands or gloves
> either.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>


So you can still guide it with the 'stick' even when you are pulling another
jeep up an incline or with the brake on. Seems it would be awfully hard to
guide it...you'll have to excuse my ignorance - just trying to learn.
Hopefully the winch will be here today and I can install it.

--
Keith
98 TJ
86 Mustang GT

KH 12-29-2003 11:41 AM

Re: Winch question
 
Mike Romain wrote:

> You folks will be eating up winch cables fast and getting to know the
> local emergency room doctors quickly.
>
> Once you have 'hand' wound it on for the first time DO NOT EVER use
> gloves to wind it back on the second or successive times!!!
>
> The cable will pull in between the loops on the drum because you cannot
> get it even close to tight using only part or even all of your body
> weight.
>
> This will fray the cable on the next use and the next time you go to
> wind it in there could/will be be spurs that 'will' grab your glove and
> your hand and wind them up with the cable.
>
> The Warn XD9000i is far too fast and you will not be able to stop it in
> time to prevent you hand from being sucked into the spool when one of
> the cable spurs grabs it.
>
> A piece of hardwood with a notch in it is far safer to use to guide the
> cable even on the spool. Something like one uses on a table saw for rip
> cuts.
>
> I pull another Jeep or mine up a slight hill or with my wife holding the
> brake when I wind mine up after a run.
>
> I will use a person as an anchor just to get it back spooled if it is in
> constant use, but then I won't go near mine with my hands or gloves
> either.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>


So you can still guide it with the 'stick' even when you are pulling another
jeep up an incline or with the brake on. Seems it would be awfully hard to
guide it...you'll have to excuse my ignorance - just trying to learn.
Hopefully the winch will be here today and I can install it.

--
Keith
98 TJ
86 Mustang GT


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