Re: Winch question
 

Mike Romain wrote:

> You folks will be eating up winch cables fast and getting to know the
> local emergency room doctors quickly.
>
> Once you have 'hand' wound it on for the first time DO NOT EVER use
> gloves to wind it back on the second or successive times!!!
>
> The cable will pull in between the loops on the drum because you cannot
> get it even close to tight using only part or even all of your body
> weight.
>
> This will fray the cable on the next use and the next time you go to
> wind it in there could/will be be spurs that 'will' grab your glove and
> your hand and wind them up with the cable.
>
> The Warn XD9000i is far too fast and you will not be able to stop it in
> time to prevent you hand from being sucked into the spool when one of
> the cable spurs grabs it.
>
> A piece of hardwood with a notch in it is far safer to use to guide the
> cable even on the spool. Something like one uses on a table saw for rip
> cuts.
>
> I pull another Jeep or mine up a slight hill or with my wife holding the
> brake when I wind mine up after a run.
>
> I will use a person as an anchor just to get it back spooled if it is in
> constant use, but then I won't go near mine with my hands or gloves
> either.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>

So you can still guide it with the 'stick' even when you are pulling another
jeep up an incline or with the brake on. Seems it would be awfully hard to
guide it...you'll have to excuse my ignorance - just trying to learn.
Hopefully the winch will be here today and I can install it.

--
Keith
98 TJ
86 Mustang GT

Re: Winch question
 

If you're pulling a Jeep out, I would not try and 'guide' it at all. In
fact, stay out of the line of fire in case the cable breaks. I think
Mike was referring to 'putting the winch to bed' or when you are
finished with it for a while.

KH wrote:


> So you can still guide it with the 'stick' even when you are pulling another
> jeep up an incline or with the brake on. Seems it would be awfully hard to
> guide it...you'll have to excuse my ignorance - just trying to learn.
> Hopefully the winch will be here today and I can install it.
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting
to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things
we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to
say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also
unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know."
-- Donald Rumsfeld (2003)

"I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and
a woman."
-- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003)

__________________________________________________ _________

Re: Winch question
 

If you're pulling a Jeep out, I would not try and 'guide' it at all. In
fact, stay out of the line of fire in case the cable breaks. I think
Mike was referring to 'putting the winch to bed' or when you are
finished with it for a while.

KH wrote:


> So you can still guide it with the 'stick' even when you are pulling another
> jeep up an incline or with the brake on. Seems it would be awfully hard to
> guide it...you'll have to excuse my ignorance - just trying to learn.
> Hopefully the winch will be here today and I can install it.
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting
to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things
we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to
say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also
unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know."
-- Donald Rumsfeld (2003)

"I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and
a woman."
-- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003)

__________________________________________________ _________

Re: Winch question
 

If you're pulling a Jeep out, I would not try and 'guide' it at all. In
fact, stay out of the line of fire in case the cable breaks. I think
Mike was referring to 'putting the winch to bed' or when you are
finished with it for a while.

KH wrote:


> So you can still guide it with the 'stick' even when you are pulling another
> jeep up an incline or with the brake on. Seems it would be awfully hard to
> guide it...you'll have to excuse my ignorance - just trying to learn.
> Hopefully the winch will be here today and I can install it.
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting
to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things
we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to
say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also
unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know."
-- Donald Rumsfeld (2003)

"I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and
a woman."
-- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003)

__________________________________________________ _________

Re: Winch question
 

twaldron wrote:

> If you're pulling a Jeep out, I would not try and 'guide' it at all. In
> fact, stay out of the line of fire in case the cable breaks. I think
> Mike was referring to 'putting the winch to bed' or when you are
> finished with it for a while.
>
> KH wrote:
>
>
>> So you can still guide it with the 'stick' even when you are pulling
>> another
>> jeep up an incline or with the brake on. Seems it would be awfully hard
>> to guide it...you'll have to excuse my ignorance - just trying to learn.
>> Hopefully the winch will be here today and I can install it.
>>
>
Right, but it seems like you'd have quite a bit of tension when 'putting it
to bed'. Maybe I just have to do it to understand correctly.

--
Keith
98 TJ
86 Mustang GT

Re: Winch question
 

twaldron wrote:

> If you're pulling a Jeep out, I would not try and 'guide' it at all. In
> fact, stay out of the line of fire in case the cable breaks. I think
> Mike was referring to 'putting the winch to bed' or when you are
> finished with it for a while.
>
> KH wrote:
>
>
>> So you can still guide it with the 'stick' even when you are pulling
>> another
>> jeep up an incline or with the brake on. Seems it would be awfully hard
>> to guide it...you'll have to excuse my ignorance - just trying to learn.
>> Hopefully the winch will be here today and I can install it.
>>
>
Right, but it seems like you'd have quite a bit of tension when 'putting it
to bed'. Maybe I just have to do it to understand correctly.

--
Keith
98 TJ
86 Mustang GT

Re: Winch question
 

twaldron wrote:

> If you're pulling a Jeep out, I would not try and 'guide' it at all. In
> fact, stay out of the line of fire in case the cable breaks. I think
> Mike was referring to 'putting the winch to bed' or when you are
> finished with it for a while.
>
> KH wrote:
>
>
>> So you can still guide it with the 'stick' even when you are pulling
>> another
>> jeep up an incline or with the brake on. Seems it would be awfully hard
>> to guide it...you'll have to excuse my ignorance - just trying to learn.
>> Hopefully the winch will be here today and I can install it.
>>
>
Right, but it seems like you'd have quite a bit of tension when 'putting it
to bed'. Maybe I just have to do it to understand correctly.

--
Keith
98 TJ
86 Mustang GT

Re: Winch question
 

KH wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > You folks will be eating up winch cables fast and getting to know the
> > local emergency room doctors quickly.
> >
> > Once you have 'hand' wound it on for the first time DO NOT EVER use
> > gloves to wind it back on the second or successive times!!!
> >
> > The cable will pull in between the loops on the drum because you cannot
> > get it even close to tight using only part or even all of your body
> > weight.
> >
> > This will fray the cable on the next use and the next time you go to
> > wind it in there could/will be be spurs that 'will' grab your glove and
> > your hand and wind them up with the cable.
> >
> > The Warn XD9000i is far too fast and you will not be able to stop it in
> > time to prevent you hand from being sucked into the spool when one of
> > the cable spurs grabs it.
> >
> > A piece of hardwood with a notch in it is far safer to use to guide the
> > cable even on the spool. Something like one uses on a table saw for rip
> > cuts.
> >
> > I pull another Jeep or mine up a slight hill or with my wife holding the
> > brake when I wind mine up after a run.
> >
> > I will use a person as an anchor just to get it back spooled if it is in
> > constant use, but then I won't go near mine with my hands or gloves
> > either.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
>
> So you can still guide it with the 'stick' even when you are pulling another
> jeep up an incline or with the brake on. Seems it would be awfully hard to
> guide it...you'll have to excuse my ignorance - just trying to learn.
> Hopefully the winch will be here today and I can install it.
>
> --
> Keith
> 98 TJ
> 86 Mustang GT

Yes, it will track back in very nice under a minimal tension to wind it
tight for putting it away. The line likes to follow it's wrap when it
is tight enough. If it is too loose, it gets mucked up and overlaps
rows.

It will get wrecked really fast if you don't start the day out with it
wound on tight.

Jerry had it about right, I think at least a 500 lb weight should be on
it for a good wind up.

I am a big boy, 6'4" and 200 lb and I have tried to hold enough tension
on it to wind it and there was not a hope. The next use sucked the
cable right into the row below it.

Mike

Re: Winch question
 

KH wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > You folks will be eating up winch cables fast and getting to know the
> > local emergency room doctors quickly.
> >
> > Once you have 'hand' wound it on for the first time DO NOT EVER use
> > gloves to wind it back on the second or successive times!!!
> >
> > The cable will pull in between the loops on the drum because you cannot
> > get it even close to tight using only part or even all of your body
> > weight.
> >
> > This will fray the cable on the next use and the next time you go to
> > wind it in there could/will be be spurs that 'will' grab your glove and
> > your hand and wind them up with the cable.
> >
> > The Warn XD9000i is far too fast and you will not be able to stop it in
> > time to prevent you hand from being sucked into the spool when one of
> > the cable spurs grabs it.
> >
> > A piece of hardwood with a notch in it is far safer to use to guide the
> > cable even on the spool. Something like one uses on a table saw for rip
> > cuts.
> >
> > I pull another Jeep or mine up a slight hill or with my wife holding the
> > brake when I wind mine up after a run.
> >
> > I will use a person as an anchor just to get it back spooled if it is in
> > constant use, but then I won't go near mine with my hands or gloves
> > either.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
>
> So you can still guide it with the 'stick' even when you are pulling another
> jeep up an incline or with the brake on. Seems it would be awfully hard to
> guide it...you'll have to excuse my ignorance - just trying to learn.
> Hopefully the winch will be here today and I can install it.
>
> --
> Keith
> 98 TJ
> 86 Mustang GT

Yes, it will track back in very nice under a minimal tension to wind it
tight for putting it away. The line likes to follow it's wrap when it
is tight enough. If it is too loose, it gets mucked up and overlaps
rows.

It will get wrecked really fast if you don't start the day out with it
wound on tight.

Jerry had it about right, I think at least a 500 lb weight should be on
it for a good wind up.

I am a big boy, 6'4" and 200 lb and I have tried to hold enough tension
on it to wind it and there was not a hope. The next use sucked the
cable right into the row below it.

Mike

Re: Winch question
 

KH wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
> > You folks will be eating up winch cables fast and getting to know the
> > local emergency room doctors quickly.
> >
> > Once you have 'hand' wound it on for the first time DO NOT EVER use
> > gloves to wind it back on the second or successive times!!!
> >
> > The cable will pull in between the loops on the drum because you cannot
> > get it even close to tight using only part or even all of your body
> > weight.
> >
> > This will fray the cable on the next use and the next time you go to
> > wind it in there could/will be be spurs that 'will' grab your glove and
> > your hand and wind them up with the cable.
> >
> > The Warn XD9000i is far too fast and you will not be able to stop it in
> > time to prevent you hand from being sucked into the spool when one of
> > the cable spurs grabs it.
> >
> > A piece of hardwood with a notch in it is far safer to use to guide the
> > cable even on the spool. Something like one uses on a table saw for rip
> > cuts.
> >
> > I pull another Jeep or mine up a slight hill or with my wife holding the
> > brake when I wind mine up after a run.
> >
> > I will use a person as an anchor just to get it back spooled if it is in
> > constant use, but then I won't go near mine with my hands or gloves
> > either.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
>
> So you can still guide it with the 'stick' even when you are pulling another
> jeep up an incline or with the brake on. Seems it would be awfully hard to
> guide it...you'll have to excuse my ignorance - just trying to learn.
> Hopefully the winch will be here today and I can install it.
>
> --
> Keith
> 98 TJ
> 86 Mustang GT

Yes, it will track back in very nice under a minimal tension to wind it
tight for putting it away. The line likes to follow it's wrap when it
is tight enough. If it is too loose, it gets mucked up and overlaps
rows.

It will get wrecked really fast if you don't start the day out with it
wound on tight.

Jerry had it about right, I think at least a 500 lb weight should be on
it for a good wind up.

I am a big boy, 6'4" and 200 lb and I have tried to hold enough tension
on it to wind it and there was not a hope. The next use sucked the
cable right into the row below it.

Mike