Don't get me wrong, I used to have an 85 4cyl CJ that I loved dearly,
but it had a 4spd in it. It's weakness was hwy travel where if I had
anything in it, I was stuck in 3rd gear if there was any rise in the
road. My point was about the _combination_ of the 4 cyl and the Auto.

griffin wrote:

> I dunno what everyone's gripe with the 4banger is. I admit I'll be upgrading
> my '85 CJ7 to either a V8 350 or a 4.0L H.O. 258 I6 with a fuel injection
> system at some point in the near future ...but I gotta say that my little
> 2.5L 4cyl in my CJ has ALOT of *****. Then again ...I can understand it if
> you are either rockcrawling or need any speed above 80km/h. However, for mud
> and regular trails, as well as for pulling vehicles out of the mud, my
> little 4cyl has WAY more low-end torque then my '88 YJ had with the 258 I6.
> I've done stuff in the short time I've owned this CJ that my YJ could never
> have hoped to do. Maybe it's the gearing? Either way ...I'm happy with the 4
> and will only swap over when she finally blows. And it seems I'll have
> replaced all my under-the-hood components before that time while I try and
> get it running again ;p
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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Don't get me wrong, I used to have an 85 4cyl CJ that I loved dearly,
but it had a 4spd in it. It's weakness was hwy travel where if I had
anything in it, I was stuck in 3rd gear if there was any rise in the
road. My point was about the _combination_ of the 4 cyl and the Auto.

griffin wrote:

> I dunno what everyone's gripe with the 4banger is. I admit I'll be upgrading
> my '85 CJ7 to either a V8 350 or a 4.0L H.O. 258 I6 with a fuel injection
> system at some point in the near future ...but I gotta say that my little
> 2.5L 4cyl in my CJ has ALOT of *****. Then again ...I can understand it if
> you are either rockcrawling or need any speed above 80km/h. However, for mud
> and regular trails, as well as for pulling vehicles out of the mud, my
> little 4cyl has WAY more low-end torque then my '88 YJ had with the 258 I6.
> I've done stuff in the short time I've owned this CJ that my YJ could never
> have hoped to do. Maybe it's the gearing? Either way ...I'm happy with the 4
> and will only swap over when she finally blows. And it seems I'll have
> replaced all my under-the-hood components before that time while I try and
> get it running again ;p
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

 

Don't get me wrong, I used to have an 85 4cyl CJ that I loved dearly,
but it had a 4spd in it. It's weakness was hwy travel where if I had
anything in it, I was stuck in 3rd gear if there was any rise in the
road. My point was about the _combination_ of the 4 cyl and the Auto.

griffin wrote:

> I dunno what everyone's gripe with the 4banger is. I admit I'll be upgrading
> my '85 CJ7 to either a V8 350 or a 4.0L H.O. 258 I6 with a fuel injection
> system at some point in the near future ...but I gotta say that my little
> 2.5L 4cyl in my CJ has ALOT of *****. Then again ...I can understand it if
> you are either rockcrawling or need any speed above 80km/h. However, for mud
> and regular trails, as well as for pulling vehicles out of the mud, my
> little 4cyl has WAY more low-end torque then my '88 YJ had with the 258 I6.
> I've done stuff in the short time I've owned this CJ that my YJ could never
> have hoped to do. Maybe it's the gearing? Either way ...I'm happy with the 4
> and will only swap over when she finally blows. And it seems I'll have
> replaced all my under-the-hood components before that time while I try and
> get it running again ;p
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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__________________________________________________ _________

 

LOL!!
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:QDChd.4261$fC4.2971@newssvr11.news.prodigy.co m...
> Not true, Bill. I remember you were right once. I just can't remember
> what it was about.
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
> > When I am right, No one remembers. When I am wrong, No one forgets.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________

 

LOL!!
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:QDChd.4261$fC4.2971@newssvr11.news.prodigy.co m...
> Not true, Bill. I remember you were right once. I just can't remember
> what it was about.
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
> > When I am right, No one remembers. When I am wrong, No one forgets.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________

 

LOL!!
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:QDChd.4261$fC4.2971@newssvr11.news.prodigy.co m...
> Not true, Bill. I remember you were right once. I just can't remember
> what it was about.
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
> > When I am right, No one remembers. When I am wrong, No one forgets.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________

 

Ah, ok ...ya that I would agree with for sure. I flat out refuse to buy any
4x4 with an auto. I don't see the point.
Luckily for me I've got the 5spd tranny ...but even still ...any more than
100km/h and I might as well have a fuel truck driving beside me. It takes me
like 20+ second to get up to that speed too ;p I pretty much never take it
above 85-90km/h even on the highway ...mostly because I don't feel like I
have ANY control over the Jeep what-so-ever at that speed. Train tracks at
90km/h are NOT COOL!

--
griffin
'85 Jeep CJ-7
'97 Toyota Corolla SD

"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:qbMhd.14765$bP2.1392@newssvr12.news.prodigy.c om...
> Don't get me wrong, I used to have an 85 4cyl CJ that I loved dearly,
> but it had a 4spd in it. It's weakness was hwy travel where if I had
> anything in it, I was stuck in 3rd gear if there was any rise in the
> road. My point was about the _combination_ of the 4 cyl and the Auto.
>
> griffin wrote:
>
> > I dunno what everyone's gripe with the 4banger is. I admit I'll be
upgrading
> > my '85 CJ7 to either a V8 350 or a 4.0L H.O. 258 I6 with a fuel
injection
> > system at some point in the near future ...but I gotta say that my
little
> > 2.5L 4cyl in my CJ has ALOT of *****. Then again ...I can understand it
if
> > you are either rockcrawling or need any speed above 80km/h. However, for
mud
> > and regular trails, as well as for pulling vehicles out of the mud, my
> > little 4cyl has WAY more low-end torque then my '88 YJ had with the 258
I6.
> > I've done stuff in the short time I've owned this CJ that my YJ could
never
> > have hoped to do. Maybe it's the gearing? Either way ...I'm happy with
the 4
> > and will only swap over when she finally blows. And it seems I'll have
> > replaced all my under-the-hood components before that time while I try
and
> > get it running again ;p
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________

 

Ah, ok ...ya that I would agree with for sure. I flat out refuse to buy any
4x4 with an auto. I don't see the point.
Luckily for me I've got the 5spd tranny ...but even still ...any more than
100km/h and I might as well have a fuel truck driving beside me. It takes me
like 20+ second to get up to that speed too ;p I pretty much never take it
above 85-90km/h even on the highway ...mostly because I don't feel like I
have ANY control over the Jeep what-so-ever at that speed. Train tracks at
90km/h are NOT COOL!

--
griffin
'85 Jeep CJ-7
'97 Toyota Corolla SD

"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:qbMhd.14765$bP2.1392@newssvr12.news.prodigy.c om...
> Don't get me wrong, I used to have an 85 4cyl CJ that I loved dearly,
> but it had a 4spd in it. It's weakness was hwy travel where if I had
> anything in it, I was stuck in 3rd gear if there was any rise in the
> road. My point was about the _combination_ of the 4 cyl and the Auto.
>
> griffin wrote:
>
> > I dunno what everyone's gripe with the 4banger is. I admit I'll be
upgrading
> > my '85 CJ7 to either a V8 350 or a 4.0L H.O. 258 I6 with a fuel
injection
> > system at some point in the near future ...but I gotta say that my
little
> > 2.5L 4cyl in my CJ has ALOT of *****. Then again ...I can understand it
if
> > you are either rockcrawling or need any speed above 80km/h. However, for
mud
> > and regular trails, as well as for pulling vehicles out of the mud, my
> > little 4cyl has WAY more low-end torque then my '88 YJ had with the 258
I6.
> > I've done stuff in the short time I've owned this CJ that my YJ could
never
> > have hoped to do. Maybe it's the gearing? Either way ...I'm happy with
the 4
> > and will only swap over when she finally blows. And it seems I'll have
> > replaced all my under-the-hood components before that time while I try
and
> > get it running again ;p
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________

 

Ah, ok ...ya that I would agree with for sure. I flat out refuse to buy any
4x4 with an auto. I don't see the point.
Luckily for me I've got the 5spd tranny ...but even still ...any more than
100km/h and I might as well have a fuel truck driving beside me. It takes me
like 20+ second to get up to that speed too ;p I pretty much never take it
above 85-90km/h even on the highway ...mostly because I don't feel like I
have ANY control over the Jeep what-so-ever at that speed. Train tracks at
90km/h are NOT COOL!

--
griffin
'85 Jeep CJ-7
'97 Toyota Corolla SD

"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:qbMhd.14765$bP2.1392@newssvr12.news.prodigy.c om...
> Don't get me wrong, I used to have an 85 4cyl CJ that I loved dearly,
> but it had a 4spd in it. It's weakness was hwy travel where if I had
> anything in it, I was stuck in 3rd gear if there was any rise in the
> road. My point was about the _combination_ of the 4 cyl and the Auto.
>
> griffin wrote:
>
> > I dunno what everyone's gripe with the 4banger is. I admit I'll be
upgrading
> > my '85 CJ7 to either a V8 350 or a 4.0L H.O. 258 I6 with a fuel
injection
> > system at some point in the near future ...but I gotta say that my
little
> > 2.5L 4cyl in my CJ has ALOT of *****. Then again ...I can understand it
if
> > you are either rockcrawling or need any speed above 80km/h. However, for
mud
> > and regular trails, as well as for pulling vehicles out of the mud, my
> > little 4cyl has WAY more low-end torque then my '88 YJ had with the 258
I6.
> > I've done stuff in the short time I've owned this CJ that my YJ could
never
> > have hoped to do. Maybe it's the gearing? Either way ...I'm happy with
the 4
> > and will only swap over when she finally blows. And it seems I'll have
> > replaced all my under-the-hood components before that time while I try
and
> > get it running again ;p
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________

 

Ok, Bill. Finally getting back to you, I checked it out. No sign of a
missing door in the filler holes and no UNLEADED ONLY script on the
speedo as in later models. The orig. owner's manual recommends REGULAR
gas and makes no mention of unleaded anywhere. It's a factory 1971 CA
leaded burning Bronco.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> The only thing that Kalifornia car's missing is the catalytic
> convert, and that's only because it's a utility vehicle, you may see the
> remains of the trap door in the gas tank filler tube, and written on the
> gas gauge it's an unleaded fuel only car. Look at a 70 Ford engine, you
> may just see the air injection and vapor recovery, a multitude of vacuum
> hoses controlling the distributor:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>Yeah, but it's a 1971. What smog crap?

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________