Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
Joshua Nelson wrote:
>
> > On those downhills,
> > use engine braking whenever you can: 4wd Low and 1st gear. Using the
> > vehicle brakes by themselves is begging for a rollover.
>
> Jim,
>
> I don't understand this advice. It seems to me that the physics of
> the jeep and whether it is going to roll over or not has to do with
> the weight of the rig, speed, and angle of the slope. It shouldn't
> really matter one way or the other what type of mechanism is slowing
> the tires down.
He is talking about control. 'Never' go down a hill in neutral or with
the clutch in!
If you rely on the brakes, you lose steering way to fast or the rear
tires lock and slide out and you tend to nose dive because 60% plus the
down angle means more like 80% of the braking resistance is on the front
tires.
Also the springs aren't torque loaded, this makes the vehicle 'float'
down the hill with loose springs. The body floats on the axles instead
of being sucked down to them under torque. A perfect combo for a 45 deg
slide and maybe flip.
I do disagree with 1st low though.
I climb sand pit walls and go back down them and 1st is too low, all 4
tires start skidding. I use 2nd low mostly, sometimes 3rd and some
gentle taps on the brake while still in gear. Staying in gear prevents
the front or rear tires from locking up when gentle braking or you would
stall the engine.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> > On those downhills,
> > use engine braking whenever you can: 4wd Low and 1st gear. Using the
> > vehicle brakes by themselves is begging for a rollover.
>
> Jim,
>
> I don't understand this advice. It seems to me that the physics of
> the jeep and whether it is going to roll over or not has to do with
> the weight of the rig, speed, and angle of the slope. It shouldn't
> really matter one way or the other what type of mechanism is slowing
> the tires down.
He is talking about control. 'Never' go down a hill in neutral or with
the clutch in!
If you rely on the brakes, you lose steering way to fast or the rear
tires lock and slide out and you tend to nose dive because 60% plus the
down angle means more like 80% of the braking resistance is on the front
tires.
Also the springs aren't torque loaded, this makes the vehicle 'float'
down the hill with loose springs. The body floats on the axles instead
of being sucked down to them under torque. A perfect combo for a 45 deg
slide and maybe flip.
I do disagree with 1st low though.
I climb sand pit walls and go back down them and 1st is too low, all 4
tires start skidding. I use 2nd low mostly, sometimes 3rd and some
gentle taps on the brake while still in gear. Staying in gear prevents
the front or rear tires from locking up when gentle braking or you would
stall the engine.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
A guy in town has a snowmobile modification he has been working on, that
uses two rear axles and a track to connect the tires on each side.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FA18C0D.FE4B7480@***.net...
> Yup, my Dad told of many modifications he did, like add another
> transmission, bolt washers to the top of the piston to increase
> compression. They were limited by only their imagination, a very
> different world from all the regulations we have to put up with.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > There was/is also available a 4-wheel drive conversion kit for the Model
T as
> > well..
> > * * *
> > Matt Macchiarolo
> > www.townpeddler.com
> > www.wolverine4wd.org
> > http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
uses two rear axles and a track to connect the tires on each side.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FA18C0D.FE4B7480@***.net...
> Yup, my Dad told of many modifications he did, like add another
> transmission, bolt washers to the top of the piston to increase
> compression. They were limited by only their imagination, a very
> different world from all the regulations we have to put up with.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > There was/is also available a 4-wheel drive conversion kit for the Model
T as
> > well..
> > * * *
> > Matt Macchiarolo
> > www.townpeddler.com
> > www.wolverine4wd.org
> > http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
A guy in town has a snowmobile modification he has been working on, that
uses two rear axles and a track to connect the tires on each side.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FA18C0D.FE4B7480@***.net...
> Yup, my Dad told of many modifications he did, like add another
> transmission, bolt washers to the top of the piston to increase
> compression. They were limited by only their imagination, a very
> different world from all the regulations we have to put up with.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > There was/is also available a 4-wheel drive conversion kit for the Model
T as
> > well..
> > * * *
> > Matt Macchiarolo
> > www.townpeddler.com
> > www.wolverine4wd.org
> > http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
uses two rear axles and a track to connect the tires on each side.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FA18C0D.FE4B7480@***.net...
> Yup, my Dad told of many modifications he did, like add another
> transmission, bolt washers to the top of the piston to increase
> compression. They were limited by only their imagination, a very
> different world from all the regulations we have to put up with.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > There was/is also available a 4-wheel drive conversion kit for the Model
T as
> > well..
> > * * *
> > Matt Macchiarolo
> > www.townpeddler.com
> > www.wolverine4wd.org
> > http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
#64
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
A guy in town has a snowmobile modification he has been working on, that
uses two rear axles and a track to connect the tires on each side.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FA18C0D.FE4B7480@***.net...
> Yup, my Dad told of many modifications he did, like add another
> transmission, bolt washers to the top of the piston to increase
> compression. They were limited by only their imagination, a very
> different world from all the regulations we have to put up with.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > There was/is also available a 4-wheel drive conversion kit for the Model
T as
> > well..
> > * * *
> > Matt Macchiarolo
> > www.townpeddler.com
> > www.wolverine4wd.org
> > http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
uses two rear axles and a track to connect the tires on each side.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FA18C0D.FE4B7480@***.net...
> Yup, my Dad told of many modifications he did, like add another
> transmission, bolt washers to the top of the piston to increase
> compression. They were limited by only their imagination, a very
> different world from all the regulations we have to put up with.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > There was/is also available a 4-wheel drive conversion kit for the Model
T as
> > well..
> > * * *
> > Matt Macchiarolo
> > www.townpeddler.com
> > www.wolverine4wd.org
> > http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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>
> I climb sand pit walls and go back down them and 1st is too low,
> all 4 tires start skidding. I use 2nd low mostly, sometimes 3rd
> and some gentle taps on the brake while still in gear. Staying in
> gear prevents the front or rear tires from locking up when gentle
> braking or you would stall the engine.
>
It's kind of like skiing downhill on ice. Ever done that? Keep your skiis
flat and don't try to stop real fast. A fresh diaper is a good idea too,
before you start...
Earle
news:3FA18D8E.D88E8456@sympatico.ca...
---snip--snip--snip---
>
> I climb sand pit walls and go back down them and 1st is too low,
> all 4 tires start skidding. I use 2nd low mostly, sometimes 3rd
> and some gentle taps on the brake while still in gear. Staying in
> gear prevents the front or rear tires from locking up when gentle
> braking or you would stall the engine.
>
It's kind of like skiing downhill on ice. Ever done that? Keep your skiis
flat and don't try to stop real fast. A fresh diaper is a good idea too,
before you start...
Earle
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FA18D8E.D88E8456@sympatico.ca...
---snip--snip--snip---
>
> I climb sand pit walls and go back down them and 1st is too low,
> all 4 tires start skidding. I use 2nd low mostly, sometimes 3rd
> and some gentle taps on the brake while still in gear. Staying in
> gear prevents the front or rear tires from locking up when gentle
> braking or you would stall the engine.
>
It's kind of like skiing downhill on ice. Ever done that? Keep your skiis
flat and don't try to stop real fast. A fresh diaper is a good idea too,
before you start...
Earle
news:3FA18D8E.D88E8456@sympatico.ca...
---snip--snip--snip---
>
> I climb sand pit walls and go back down them and 1st is too low,
> all 4 tires start skidding. I use 2nd low mostly, sometimes 3rd
> and some gentle taps on the brake while still in gear. Staying in
> gear prevents the front or rear tires from locking up when gentle
> braking or you would stall the engine.
>
It's kind of like skiing downhill on ice. Ever done that? Keep your skiis
flat and don't try to stop real fast. A fresh diaper is a good idea too,
before you start...
Earle
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3FA18D8E.D88E8456@sympatico.ca...
---snip--snip--snip---
>
> I climb sand pit walls and go back down them and 1st is too low,
> all 4 tires start skidding. I use 2nd low mostly, sometimes 3rd
> and some gentle taps on the brake while still in gear. Staying in
> gear prevents the front or rear tires from locking up when gentle
> braking or you would stall the engine.
>
It's kind of like skiing downhill on ice. Ever done that? Keep your skiis
flat and don't try to stop real fast. A fresh diaper is a good idea too,
before you start...
Earle
news:3FA18D8E.D88E8456@sympatico.ca...
---snip--snip--snip---
>
> I climb sand pit walls and go back down them and 1st is too low,
> all 4 tires start skidding. I use 2nd low mostly, sometimes 3rd
> and some gentle taps on the brake while still in gear. Staying in
> gear prevents the front or rear tires from locking up when gentle
> braking or you would stall the engine.
>
It's kind of like skiing downhill on ice. Ever done that? Keep your skiis
flat and don't try to stop real fast. A fresh diaper is a good idea too,
before you start...
Earle
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
Did you see the modern A in a post earlier today? Half track and
skies.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> A guy in town has a snowmobile modification he has been working on, that
> uses two rear axles and a track to connect the tires on each side.
>
> Earle
skies.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> A guy in town has a snowmobile modification he has been working on, that
> uses two rear axles and a track to connect the tires on each side.
>
> Earle
#69
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
Did you see the modern A in a post earlier today? Half track and
skies.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> A guy in town has a snowmobile modification he has been working on, that
> uses two rear axles and a track to connect the tires on each side.
>
> Earle
skies.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> A guy in town has a snowmobile modification he has been working on, that
> uses two rear axles and a track to connect the tires on each side.
>
> Earle
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
Did you see the modern A in a post earlier today? Half track and
skies.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> A guy in town has a snowmobile modification he has been working on, that
> uses two rear axles and a track to connect the tires on each side.
>
> Earle
skies.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> A guy in town has a snowmobile modification he has been working on, that
> uses two rear axles and a track to connect the tires on each side.
>
> Earle