Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
11-01-2003, 02:37 PM
#151
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
I think it was you people's wild, paranoid imaginations. I don't
see a post. ;-)
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Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> He didn't even utter "Real Jeep..."
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
see a post. ;-)
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Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> He didn't even utter "Real Jeep..."
> * * *
> Matt Macchiarolo
> www.townpeddler.com
> www.wolverine4wd.org
> http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
11-01-2003, 02:46 PM
#152
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
I have been with people whom let their Jeeps go, mechanically, and
knew before hand that they were in a situation where they wouldn't be
able to maintain control, and rather than chance it, simple jumped out
and let her go. An example was the video that Kevin put up of a Toy that
lost it's brakes backwards.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Now that scary!
>
> Even so the brakes should have been able to manage the speed down to a
> safe level and then if still going too fast, drop the clutch and stop.
> They try again.
>
> I would be having a real close look at those brakes! If the rears are
> grabbing, the fronts can be asked to do to much work and you can have
> brakes that won't stop the engine maybe...
>
> I have used the e-brake to keep the speed down and retain steering
> control on a couple real hairy ones.
>
> Mike
>
> Joshua Nelson wrote:
> >
> > Hi mike,
> >
> > I'm not trying to argue with you, but this wasn't an option. I have a
> > V8 and 4.10 gear ratio, and when it's in 4-low and a low gear such as
> > reverse, not to mention a downhill incline, there is no way the brakes
> > can apply enough stopping power to stall the engine. The torque
> > simply overpowers the brakes. I can't help but suspect that this is
> > the case for many others here as well, since a lot of folks have quite
> > powerful engines.
> >
> > > You are lucky to still have a Jeep.....
> > >
> > > Even if the lowest gear is too fast, leave it in gear and use the
> > > brakes.
> > >
> > > As long as you are moving, you won't stall out and if you are going slow
> > > enough to stall out, then dump the clutch and stop.
> > >
knew before hand that they were in a situation where they wouldn't be
able to maintain control, and rather than chance it, simple jumped out
and let her go. An example was the video that Kevin put up of a Toy that
lost it's brakes backwards.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Now that scary!
>
> Even so the brakes should have been able to manage the speed down to a
> safe level and then if still going too fast, drop the clutch and stop.
> They try again.
>
> I would be having a real close look at those brakes! If the rears are
> grabbing, the fronts can be asked to do to much work and you can have
> brakes that won't stop the engine maybe...
>
> I have used the e-brake to keep the speed down and retain steering
> control on a couple real hairy ones.
>
> Mike
>
> Joshua Nelson wrote:
> >
> > Hi mike,
> >
> > I'm not trying to argue with you, but this wasn't an option. I have a
> > V8 and 4.10 gear ratio, and when it's in 4-low and a low gear such as
> > reverse, not to mention a downhill incline, there is no way the brakes
> > can apply enough stopping power to stall the engine. The torque
> > simply overpowers the brakes. I can't help but suspect that this is
> > the case for many others here as well, since a lot of folks have quite
> > powerful engines.
> >
> > > You are lucky to still have a Jeep.....
> > >
> > > Even if the lowest gear is too fast, leave it in gear and use the
> > > brakes.
> > >
> > > As long as you are moving, you won't stall out and if you are going slow
> > > enough to stall out, then dump the clutch and stop.
> > >
11-01-2003, 02:46 PM
#153
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
I have been with people whom let their Jeeps go, mechanically, and
knew before hand that they were in a situation where they wouldn't be
able to maintain control, and rather than chance it, simple jumped out
and let her go. An example was the video that Kevin put up of a Toy that
lost it's brakes backwards.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Now that scary!
>
> Even so the brakes should have been able to manage the speed down to a
> safe level and then if still going too fast, drop the clutch and stop.
> They try again.
>
> I would be having a real close look at those brakes! If the rears are
> grabbing, the fronts can be asked to do to much work and you can have
> brakes that won't stop the engine maybe...
>
> I have used the e-brake to keep the speed down and retain steering
> control on a couple real hairy ones.
>
> Mike
>
> Joshua Nelson wrote:
> >
> > Hi mike,
> >
> > I'm not trying to argue with you, but this wasn't an option. I have a
> > V8 and 4.10 gear ratio, and when it's in 4-low and a low gear such as
> > reverse, not to mention a downhill incline, there is no way the brakes
> > can apply enough stopping power to stall the engine. The torque
> > simply overpowers the brakes. I can't help but suspect that this is
> > the case for many others here as well, since a lot of folks have quite
> > powerful engines.
> >
> > > You are lucky to still have a Jeep.....
> > >
> > > Even if the lowest gear is too fast, leave it in gear and use the
> > > brakes.
> > >
> > > As long as you are moving, you won't stall out and if you are going slow
> > > enough to stall out, then dump the clutch and stop.
> > >
knew before hand that they were in a situation where they wouldn't be
able to maintain control, and rather than chance it, simple jumped out
and let her go. An example was the video that Kevin put up of a Toy that
lost it's brakes backwards.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Now that scary!
>
> Even so the brakes should have been able to manage the speed down to a
> safe level and then if still going too fast, drop the clutch and stop.
> They try again.
>
> I would be having a real close look at those brakes! If the rears are
> grabbing, the fronts can be asked to do to much work and you can have
> brakes that won't stop the engine maybe...
>
> I have used the e-brake to keep the speed down and retain steering
> control on a couple real hairy ones.
>
> Mike
>
> Joshua Nelson wrote:
> >
> > Hi mike,
> >
> > I'm not trying to argue with you, but this wasn't an option. I have a
> > V8 and 4.10 gear ratio, and when it's in 4-low and a low gear such as
> > reverse, not to mention a downhill incline, there is no way the brakes
> > can apply enough stopping power to stall the engine. The torque
> > simply overpowers the brakes. I can't help but suspect that this is
> > the case for many others here as well, since a lot of folks have quite
> > powerful engines.
> >
> > > You are lucky to still have a Jeep.....
> > >
> > > Even if the lowest gear is too fast, leave it in gear and use the
> > > brakes.
> > >
> > > As long as you are moving, you won't stall out and if you are going slow
> > > enough to stall out, then dump the clutch and stop.
> > >
11-01-2003, 02:46 PM
#154
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
I have been with people whom let their Jeeps go, mechanically, and
knew before hand that they were in a situation where they wouldn't be
able to maintain control, and rather than chance it, simple jumped out
and let her go. An example was the video that Kevin put up of a Toy that
lost it's brakes backwards.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Now that scary!
>
> Even so the brakes should have been able to manage the speed down to a
> safe level and then if still going too fast, drop the clutch and stop.
> They try again.
>
> I would be having a real close look at those brakes! If the rears are
> grabbing, the fronts can be asked to do to much work and you can have
> brakes that won't stop the engine maybe...
>
> I have used the e-brake to keep the speed down and retain steering
> control on a couple real hairy ones.
>
> Mike
>
> Joshua Nelson wrote:
> >
> > Hi mike,
> >
> > I'm not trying to argue with you, but this wasn't an option. I have a
> > V8 and 4.10 gear ratio, and when it's in 4-low and a low gear such as
> > reverse, not to mention a downhill incline, there is no way the brakes
> > can apply enough stopping power to stall the engine. The torque
> > simply overpowers the brakes. I can't help but suspect that this is
> > the case for many others here as well, since a lot of folks have quite
> > powerful engines.
> >
> > > You are lucky to still have a Jeep.....
> > >
> > > Even if the lowest gear is too fast, leave it in gear and use the
> > > brakes.
> > >
> > > As long as you are moving, you won't stall out and if you are going slow
> > > enough to stall out, then dump the clutch and stop.
> > >
knew before hand that they were in a situation where they wouldn't be
able to maintain control, and rather than chance it, simple jumped out
and let her go. An example was the video that Kevin put up of a Toy that
lost it's brakes backwards.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Now that scary!
>
> Even so the brakes should have been able to manage the speed down to a
> safe level and then if still going too fast, drop the clutch and stop.
> They try again.
>
> I would be having a real close look at those brakes! If the rears are
> grabbing, the fronts can be asked to do to much work and you can have
> brakes that won't stop the engine maybe...
>
> I have used the e-brake to keep the speed down and retain steering
> control on a couple real hairy ones.
>
> Mike
>
> Joshua Nelson wrote:
> >
> > Hi mike,
> >
> > I'm not trying to argue with you, but this wasn't an option. I have a
> > V8 and 4.10 gear ratio, and when it's in 4-low and a low gear such as
> > reverse, not to mention a downhill incline, there is no way the brakes
> > can apply enough stopping power to stall the engine. The torque
> > simply overpowers the brakes. I can't help but suspect that this is
> > the case for many others here as well, since a lot of folks have quite
> > powerful engines.
> >
> > > You are lucky to still have a Jeep.....
> > >
> > > Even if the lowest gear is too fast, leave it in gear and use the
> > > brakes.
> > >
> > > As long as you are moving, you won't stall out and if you are going slow
> > > enough to stall out, then dump the clutch and stop.
> > >
11-03-2003, 01:53 PM
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
Your cat must have strolled across the keyboard again. There is a post from
you that is blank, empty, speechless.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FA40B97.BCA36A92@***.net...
> I think it was you people's wild, paranoid imaginations. I don't
> see a post. ;-)
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > He didn't even utter "Real Jeep..."
> > * * *
> > Matt Macchiarolo
> > www.townpeddler.com
> > www.wolverine4wd.org
> > http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
you that is blank, empty, speechless.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FA40B97.BCA36A92@***.net...
> I think it was you people's wild, paranoid imaginations. I don't
> see a post. ;-)
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > He didn't even utter "Real Jeep..."
> > * * *
> > Matt Macchiarolo
> > www.townpeddler.com
> > www.wolverine4wd.org
> > http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
11-03-2003, 01:53 PM
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
Your cat must have strolled across the keyboard again. There is a post from
you that is blank, empty, speechless.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FA40B97.BCA36A92@***.net...
> I think it was you people's wild, paranoid imaginations. I don't
> see a post. ;-)
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > He didn't even utter "Real Jeep..."
> > * * *
> > Matt Macchiarolo
> > www.townpeddler.com
> > www.wolverine4wd.org
> > http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
you that is blank, empty, speechless.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FA40B97.BCA36A92@***.net...
> I think it was you people's wild, paranoid imaginations. I don't
> see a post. ;-)
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > He didn't even utter "Real Jeep..."
> > * * *
> > Matt Macchiarolo
> > www.townpeddler.com
> > www.wolverine4wd.org
> > http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
11-03-2003, 01:53 PM
#157
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
Your cat must have strolled across the keyboard again. There is a post from
you that is blank, empty, speechless.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FA40B97.BCA36A92@***.net...
> I think it was you people's wild, paranoid imaginations. I don't
> see a post. ;-)
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > He didn't even utter "Real Jeep..."
> > * * *
> > Matt Macchiarolo
> > www.townpeddler.com
> > www.wolverine4wd.org
> > http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
you that is blank, empty, speechless.
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3FA40B97.BCA36A92@***.net...
> I think it was you people's wild, paranoid imaginations. I don't
> see a post. ;-)
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > He didn't even utter "Real Jeep..."
> > * * *
> > Matt Macchiarolo
> > www.townpeddler.com
> > www.wolverine4wd.org
> > http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
11-03-2003, 04:07 PM
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
Yes, Jeff I know, I wish your Supernews server would honor my message
delete, instead of my automatic send button.
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CRWLR wrote:
>
> Your cat must have strolled across the keyboard again. There is a post from
> you that is blank, empty, speechless.
delete, instead of my automatic send button.
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CRWLR wrote:
>
> Your cat must have strolled across the keyboard again. There is a post from
> you that is blank, empty, speechless.
11-03-2003, 04:07 PM
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
Yes, Jeff I know, I wish your Supernews server would honor my message
delete, instead of my automatic send button.
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CRWLR wrote:
>
> Your cat must have strolled across the keyboard again. There is a post from
> you that is blank, empty, speechless.
delete, instead of my automatic send button.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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CRWLR wrote:
>
> Your cat must have strolled across the keyboard again. There is a post from
> you that is blank, empty, speechless.
11-03-2003, 04:07 PM
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
Yes, Jeff I know, I wish your Supernews server would honor my message
delete, instead of my automatic send button.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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CRWLR wrote:
>
> Your cat must have strolled across the keyboard again. There is a post from
> you that is blank, empty, speechless.
delete, instead of my automatic send button.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
CRWLR wrote:
>
> Your cat must have strolled across the keyboard again. There is a post from
> you that is blank, empty, speechless.
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