Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> spake thusly in
news:vq57gsdjai69f@corp.supernews.com:
> If the motor won't start, then back down on
> the starter motor at least until the vehicle is stabalized to the
> point that you can walk away from it without concern that it is going
> to go places on its own.
>
What do you mean by this term "on the starter motor"?
Couldn't you just leave the leave the trans in reverse and the clutch
engaged with the engine not running? Or is that what you are saying?
-Fred W
news:vq57gsdjai69f@corp.supernews.com:
> If the motor won't start, then back down on
> the starter motor at least until the vehicle is stabalized to the
> point that you can walk away from it without concern that it is going
> to go places on its own.
>
What do you mean by this term "on the starter motor"?
Couldn't you just leave the leave the trans in reverse and the clutch
engaged with the engine not running? Or is that what you are saying?
-Fred W
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> spake thusly in
news:vq57gsdjai69f@corp.supernews.com:
> If the motor won't start, then back down on
> the starter motor at least until the vehicle is stabalized to the
> point that you can walk away from it without concern that it is going
> to go places on its own.
>
What do you mean by this term "on the starter motor"?
Couldn't you just leave the leave the trans in reverse and the clutch
engaged with the engine not running? Or is that what you are saying?
-Fred W
news:vq57gsdjai69f@corp.supernews.com:
> If the motor won't start, then back down on
> the starter motor at least until the vehicle is stabalized to the
> point that you can walk away from it without concern that it is going
> to go places on its own.
>
What do you mean by this term "on the starter motor"?
Couldn't you just leave the leave the trans in reverse and the clutch
engaged with the engine not running? Or is that what you are saying?
-Fred W
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> spake thusly in
news:vq57gsdjai69f@corp.supernews.com:
> If the motor won't start, then back down on
> the starter motor at least until the vehicle is stabalized to the
> point that you can walk away from it without concern that it is going
> to go places on its own.
>
What do you mean by this term "on the starter motor"?
Couldn't you just leave the leave the trans in reverse and the clutch
engaged with the engine not running? Or is that what you are saying?
-Fred W
news:vq57gsdjai69f@corp.supernews.com:
> If the motor won't start, then back down on
> the starter motor at least until the vehicle is stabalized to the
> point that you can walk away from it without concern that it is going
> to go places on its own.
>
What do you mean by this term "on the starter motor"?
Couldn't you just leave the leave the trans in reverse and the clutch
engaged with the engine not running? Or is that what you are saying?
-Fred W
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
Hi mike,
I'm not trying to argue with you, but this wasn't an option. I have a
V8 and 4.10 gear ratio, and when it's in 4-low and a low gear such as
reverse, not to mention a downhill incline, there is no way the brakes
can apply enough stopping power to stall the engine. The torque
simply overpowers the brakes. I can't help but suspect that this is
the case for many others here as well, since a lot of folks have quite
powerful engines.
> You are lucky to still have a Jeep.....
>
> Even if the lowest gear is too fast, leave it in gear and use the
> brakes.
>
> As long as you are moving, you won't stall out and if you are going slow
> enough to stall out, then dump the clutch and stop.
>
I'm not trying to argue with you, but this wasn't an option. I have a
V8 and 4.10 gear ratio, and when it's in 4-low and a low gear such as
reverse, not to mention a downhill incline, there is no way the brakes
can apply enough stopping power to stall the engine. The torque
simply overpowers the brakes. I can't help but suspect that this is
the case for many others here as well, since a lot of folks have quite
powerful engines.
> You are lucky to still have a Jeep.....
>
> Even if the lowest gear is too fast, leave it in gear and use the
> brakes.
>
> As long as you are moving, you won't stall out and if you are going slow
> enough to stall out, then dump the clutch and stop.
>
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
Hi mike,
I'm not trying to argue with you, but this wasn't an option. I have a
V8 and 4.10 gear ratio, and when it's in 4-low and a low gear such as
reverse, not to mention a downhill incline, there is no way the brakes
can apply enough stopping power to stall the engine. The torque
simply overpowers the brakes. I can't help but suspect that this is
the case for many others here as well, since a lot of folks have quite
powerful engines.
> You are lucky to still have a Jeep.....
>
> Even if the lowest gear is too fast, leave it in gear and use the
> brakes.
>
> As long as you are moving, you won't stall out and if you are going slow
> enough to stall out, then dump the clutch and stop.
>
I'm not trying to argue with you, but this wasn't an option. I have a
V8 and 4.10 gear ratio, and when it's in 4-low and a low gear such as
reverse, not to mention a downhill incline, there is no way the brakes
can apply enough stopping power to stall the engine. The torque
simply overpowers the brakes. I can't help but suspect that this is
the case for many others here as well, since a lot of folks have quite
powerful engines.
> You are lucky to still have a Jeep.....
>
> Even if the lowest gear is too fast, leave it in gear and use the
> brakes.
>
> As long as you are moving, you won't stall out and if you are going slow
> enough to stall out, then dump the clutch and stop.
>
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
Hi mike,
I'm not trying to argue with you, but this wasn't an option. I have a
V8 and 4.10 gear ratio, and when it's in 4-low and a low gear such as
reverse, not to mention a downhill incline, there is no way the brakes
can apply enough stopping power to stall the engine. The torque
simply overpowers the brakes. I can't help but suspect that this is
the case for many others here as well, since a lot of folks have quite
powerful engines.
> You are lucky to still have a Jeep.....
>
> Even if the lowest gear is too fast, leave it in gear and use the
> brakes.
>
> As long as you are moving, you won't stall out and if you are going slow
> enough to stall out, then dump the clutch and stop.
>
I'm not trying to argue with you, but this wasn't an option. I have a
V8 and 4.10 gear ratio, and when it's in 4-low and a low gear such as
reverse, not to mention a downhill incline, there is no way the brakes
can apply enough stopping power to stall the engine. The torque
simply overpowers the brakes. I can't help but suspect that this is
the case for many others here as well, since a lot of folks have quite
powerful engines.
> You are lucky to still have a Jeep.....
>
> Even if the lowest gear is too fast, leave it in gear and use the
> brakes.
>
> As long as you are moving, you won't stall out and if you are going slow
> enough to stall out, then dump the clutch and stop.
>
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
In article <b102b6e4.0310311331.1c8451eb@posting.google.com >, spam_box@ev1.net
(Joshua Nelson) writes:
>I'm not trying to argue with you, but this wasn't an option.
You're not reading his post correcty.
I have a
>V8 and 4.10 gear ratio, and when it's in 4-low and a low gear such as
>reverse, not to mention a downhill incline, there is no way the brakes
>can apply enough stopping power to stall the engine.
If that is the case you should have had enough engine compression braking to
safely back down, feathering the brake pedal just to augment the compression
braking.
The torque
>simply overpowers the brakes. I can't help but suspect that this is
>the case for many others here as well, since a lot of folks have quite
>powerful engines.
You may want to have your brakes looked at. Remember, acceleration is optional,
stopping is not.
Your CJ8 might be too much machine to learn to 'wheel on. Better stick with
that TJ 4-popper.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
(Joshua Nelson) writes:
>I'm not trying to argue with you, but this wasn't an option.
You're not reading his post correcty.
I have a
>V8 and 4.10 gear ratio, and when it's in 4-low and a low gear such as
>reverse, not to mention a downhill incline, there is no way the brakes
>can apply enough stopping power to stall the engine.
If that is the case you should have had enough engine compression braking to
safely back down, feathering the brake pedal just to augment the compression
braking.
The torque
>simply overpowers the brakes. I can't help but suspect that this is
>the case for many others here as well, since a lot of folks have quite
>powerful engines.
You may want to have your brakes looked at. Remember, acceleration is optional,
stopping is not.
Your CJ8 might be too much machine to learn to 'wheel on. Better stick with
that TJ 4-popper.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
In article <b102b6e4.0310311331.1c8451eb@posting.google.com >, spam_box@ev1.net
(Joshua Nelson) writes:
>I'm not trying to argue with you, but this wasn't an option.
You're not reading his post correcty.
I have a
>V8 and 4.10 gear ratio, and when it's in 4-low and a low gear such as
>reverse, not to mention a downhill incline, there is no way the brakes
>can apply enough stopping power to stall the engine.
If that is the case you should have had enough engine compression braking to
safely back down, feathering the brake pedal just to augment the compression
braking.
The torque
>simply overpowers the brakes. I can't help but suspect that this is
>the case for many others here as well, since a lot of folks have quite
>powerful engines.
You may want to have your brakes looked at. Remember, acceleration is optional,
stopping is not.
Your CJ8 might be too much machine to learn to 'wheel on. Better stick with
that TJ 4-popper.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
(Joshua Nelson) writes:
>I'm not trying to argue with you, but this wasn't an option.
You're not reading his post correcty.
I have a
>V8 and 4.10 gear ratio, and when it's in 4-low and a low gear such as
>reverse, not to mention a downhill incline, there is no way the brakes
>can apply enough stopping power to stall the engine.
If that is the case you should have had enough engine compression braking to
safely back down, feathering the brake pedal just to augment the compression
braking.
The torque
>simply overpowers the brakes. I can't help but suspect that this is
>the case for many others here as well, since a lot of folks have quite
>powerful engines.
You may want to have your brakes looked at. Remember, acceleration is optional,
stopping is not.
Your CJ8 might be too much machine to learn to 'wheel on. Better stick with
that TJ 4-popper.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
In article <b102b6e4.0310311331.1c8451eb@posting.google.com >, spam_box@ev1.net
(Joshua Nelson) writes:
>I'm not trying to argue with you, but this wasn't an option.
You're not reading his post correcty.
I have a
>V8 and 4.10 gear ratio, and when it's in 4-low and a low gear such as
>reverse, not to mention a downhill incline, there is no way the brakes
>can apply enough stopping power to stall the engine.
If that is the case you should have had enough engine compression braking to
safely back down, feathering the brake pedal just to augment the compression
braking.
The torque
>simply overpowers the brakes. I can't help but suspect that this is
>the case for many others here as well, since a lot of folks have quite
>powerful engines.
You may want to have your brakes looked at. Remember, acceleration is optional,
stopping is not.
Your CJ8 might be too much machine to learn to 'wheel on. Better stick with
that TJ 4-popper.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
(Joshua Nelson) writes:
>I'm not trying to argue with you, but this wasn't an option.
You're not reading his post correcty.
I have a
>V8 and 4.10 gear ratio, and when it's in 4-low and a low gear such as
>reverse, not to mention a downhill incline, there is no way the brakes
>can apply enough stopping power to stall the engine.
If that is the case you should have had enough engine compression braking to
safely back down, feathering the brake pedal just to augment the compression
braking.
The torque
>simply overpowers the brakes. I can't help but suspect that this is
>the case for many others here as well, since a lot of folks have quite
>powerful engines.
You may want to have your brakes looked at. Remember, acceleration is optional,
stopping is not.
Your CJ8 might be too much machine to learn to 'wheel on. Better stick with
that TJ 4-popper.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
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Re: Who was it that said I didn't need lockers...?
In article <Xns9425A65983459FredWillsmyrealbox@130.133.1.4> , FredW
<Noreply@nospamplease.com> writes:
>Couldn't you just leave the leave the trans in reverse and the clutch
>engaged with the engine not running? Or is that what you are saying?
You'd be parked. Engaging the starter motor will turn the engine slower than
idle. It's an old trick also used to s l o w l y crawl, but your truck needs to
be set up to where you can crank starter in gear. TJ's can easily defeat the
clutch lockout by inserting a fuse in the "clutch lockout" fuse socket.
When I am on the trail, in low gear/low range, I often leave the clutch and
brake alone and stop just by switching off the engine. This has held me in
place at the steepest inclines I have yet encountered, and to get going I don't
have to disengage the clutch...just turn the key and off I go.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
<Noreply@nospamplease.com> writes:
>Couldn't you just leave the leave the trans in reverse and the clutch
>engaged with the engine not running? Or is that what you are saying?
You'd be parked. Engaging the starter motor will turn the engine slower than
idle. It's an old trick also used to s l o w l y crawl, but your truck needs to
be set up to where you can crank starter in gear. TJ's can easily defeat the
clutch lockout by inserting a fuse in the "clutch lockout" fuse socket.
When I am on the trail, in low gear/low range, I often leave the clutch and
brake alone and stop just by switching off the engine. This has held me in
place at the steepest inclines I have yet encountered, and to get going I don't
have to disengage the clutch...just turn the key and off I go.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
