Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
11-03-2003, 01:37 PM
#31
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
How tall are the shackles?
They can drop the front of the axle low enough for bump steer easily.
The shims will help bring the axle back flat which will raise the tie
rods back up. This 'could' maybe be enough to get rid of the bump
steer, so I would try the shims first.
Oh the shims in the front go in from the front, the shims on the rear go
in from the rear.
The longer shackle in front lowers or turns the front of the front axle
down, you want to raise it back up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jeepers wrote:
>
> In article <8h5dqv4c2m3qd8g7j89pqkg3ga7ndbmoql@4ax.com>,
> James Gemmill <gemmilljim@hotmail,com> wrote:
>
> > Could it be yu need a drop pitman arm to get rid of bump steer?
>
> I don't think the lift is exteme enough, like on my CJ. It's just
> shackles on the YJ. I was thinking the the tires may also be the culprit.
>
> I'll post a pic of her YJ over in alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4
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They can drop the front of the axle low enough for bump steer easily.
The shims will help bring the axle back flat which will raise the tie
rods back up. This 'could' maybe be enough to get rid of the bump
steer, so I would try the shims first.
Oh the shims in the front go in from the front, the shims on the rear go
in from the rear.
The longer shackle in front lowers or turns the front of the front axle
down, you want to raise it back up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jeepers wrote:
>
> In article <8h5dqv4c2m3qd8g7j89pqkg3ga7ndbmoql@4ax.com>,
> James Gemmill <gemmilljim@hotmail,com> wrote:
>
> > Could it be yu need a drop pitman arm to get rid of bump steer?
>
> I don't think the lift is exteme enough, like on my CJ. It's just
> shackles on the YJ. I was thinking the the tires may also be the culprit.
>
> I'll post a pic of her YJ over in alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4
>
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11-03-2003, 02:04 PM
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
In article <3FA6A05E.3096F206@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> How tall are the shackles?
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Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> How tall are the shackles?
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11-03-2003, 02:04 PM
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
In article <3FA6A05E.3096F206@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> How tall are the shackles?
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Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> How tall are the shackles?
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11-03-2003, 02:04 PM
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
In article <3FA6A05E.3096F206@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> How tall are the shackles?
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Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> How tall are the shackles?
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11-03-2003, 02:06 PM
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
In article <9%wpb.105716$832.5945@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
"c" <c@me.org> wrote:
> Actually a longer front shackle will decrease the caster because it will
> rotate the pinion up, which will bring the ball joints closer to vertical.
> To correct this you would put the thick part of the shim toward the shackle.
>
> Chris
I thought caster was how far behind the vertical the center of the wheel
was. But I can see how bringing the ball joints closer to vertical would
be a problem.
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"c" <c@me.org> wrote:
> Actually a longer front shackle will decrease the caster because it will
> rotate the pinion up, which will bring the ball joints closer to vertical.
> To correct this you would put the thick part of the shim toward the shackle.
>
> Chris
I thought caster was how far behind the vertical the center of the wheel
was. But I can see how bringing the ball joints closer to vertical would
be a problem.
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11-03-2003, 02:06 PM
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
In article <9%wpb.105716$832.5945@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
"c" <c@me.org> wrote:
> Actually a longer front shackle will decrease the caster because it will
> rotate the pinion up, which will bring the ball joints closer to vertical.
> To correct this you would put the thick part of the shim toward the shackle.
>
> Chris
I thought caster was how far behind the vertical the center of the wheel
was. But I can see how bringing the ball joints closer to vertical would
be a problem.
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"c" <c@me.org> wrote:
> Actually a longer front shackle will decrease the caster because it will
> rotate the pinion up, which will bring the ball joints closer to vertical.
> To correct this you would put the thick part of the shim toward the shackle.
>
> Chris
I thought caster was how far behind the vertical the center of the wheel
was. But I can see how bringing the ball joints closer to vertical would
be a problem.
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11-03-2003, 02:06 PM
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
In article <9%wpb.105716$832.5945@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
"c" <c@me.org> wrote:
> Actually a longer front shackle will decrease the caster because it will
> rotate the pinion up, which will bring the ball joints closer to vertical.
> To correct this you would put the thick part of the shim toward the shackle.
>
> Chris
I thought caster was how far behind the vertical the center of the wheel
was. But I can see how bringing the ball joints closer to vertical would
be a problem.
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"c" <c@me.org> wrote:
> Actually a longer front shackle will decrease the caster because it will
> rotate the pinion up, which will bring the ball joints closer to vertical.
> To correct this you would put the thick part of the shim toward the shackle.
>
> Chris
I thought caster was how far behind the vertical the center of the wheel
was. But I can see how bringing the ball joints closer to vertical would
be a problem.
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11-03-2003, 02:16 PM
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
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> In article <9%wpb.105716$832.5945@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
>
> > Actually a longer front shackle will decrease the caster because it will
> > rotate the pinion up, which will bring the ball joints closer to
vertical.
> > To correct this you would put the thick part of the shim toward the
shackle.
> >
> > Chris
>
> I thought caster was how far behind the vertical the center of the wheel
> was. But I can see how bringing the ball joints closer to vertical would
> be a problem.
>
>
Caster is the angle of an imaginary line drawn between the upper and lower
ball joints. The upper should be farther back than the lower. By installing
longer shackles, the whole housing is rotated, moving the pinion up, which
is at the same time decreasing this angle.
http://www.off-roadweb.com/tech/0212or_steering/
http://pweb.jps.net/~mweiser/align.htm
Chris
11-03-2003, 02:16 PM
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
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> In article <9%wpb.105716$832.5945@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
>
> > Actually a longer front shackle will decrease the caster because it will
> > rotate the pinion up, which will bring the ball joints closer to
vertical.
> > To correct this you would put the thick part of the shim toward the
shackle.
> >
> > Chris
>
> I thought caster was how far behind the vertical the center of the wheel
> was. But I can see how bringing the ball joints closer to vertical would
> be a problem.
>
>
Caster is the angle of an imaginary line drawn between the upper and lower
ball joints. The upper should be farther back than the lower. By installing
longer shackles, the whole housing is rotated, moving the pinion up, which
is at the same time decreasing this angle.
http://www.off-roadweb.com/tech/0212or_steering/
http://pweb.jps.net/~mweiser/align.htm
Chris
11-03-2003, 02:16 PM
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
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> In article <9%wpb.105716$832.5945@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
>
> > Actually a longer front shackle will decrease the caster because it will
> > rotate the pinion up, which will bring the ball joints closer to
vertical.
> > To correct this you would put the thick part of the shim toward the
shackle.
> >
> > Chris
>
> I thought caster was how far behind the vertical the center of the wheel
> was. But I can see how bringing the ball joints closer to vertical would
> be a problem.
>
>
Caster is the angle of an imaginary line drawn between the upper and lower
ball joints. The upper should be farther back than the lower. By installing
longer shackles, the whole housing is rotated, moving the pinion up, which
is at the same time decreasing this angle.
http://www.off-roadweb.com/tech/0212or_steering/
http://pweb.jps.net/~mweiser/align.htm
Chris
