Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
11-03-2003, 12:41 PM
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
In article <Vfwpb.105700$832.104700@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
"c" <c@me.org> wrote:
> Unfortunately what you got is very typical of some of the chain auto stores
> these days. Luckily our NAPA has some pretty good people behind the counter.
> But go to Auto Boner or CarQuest and you're playing Russian Roulette.
> Anyway, I just called our NAPA, and got 2 part numbers for you. The 1 degree
> shim is 704-1161 and the 3 degree shim is 704-1163.
>
> HTH
> Chris
AHHH! Too Cool! Thanks SO much!
Maybe you can help me again, if you don't mind...
93 YJ with a shackle lift. It drives kinda squirelly, like the castor is
off. Which degree shim, do you think, do I need?
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"c" <c@me.org> wrote:
> Unfortunately what you got is very typical of some of the chain auto stores
> these days. Luckily our NAPA has some pretty good people behind the counter.
> But go to Auto Boner or CarQuest and you're playing Russian Roulette.
> Anyway, I just called our NAPA, and got 2 part numbers for you. The 1 degree
> shim is 704-1161 and the 3 degree shim is 704-1163.
>
> HTH
> Chris
AHHH! Too Cool! Thanks SO much!
Maybe you can help me again, if you don't mind...
93 YJ with a shackle lift. It drives kinda squirelly, like the castor is
off. Which degree shim, do you think, do I need?
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11-03-2003, 12:41 PM
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
In article <Vfwpb.105700$832.104700@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
"c" <c@me.org> wrote:
> Unfortunately what you got is very typical of some of the chain auto stores
> these days. Luckily our NAPA has some pretty good people behind the counter.
> But go to Auto Boner or CarQuest and you're playing Russian Roulette.
> Anyway, I just called our NAPA, and got 2 part numbers for you. The 1 degree
> shim is 704-1161 and the 3 degree shim is 704-1163.
>
> HTH
> Chris
AHHH! Too Cool! Thanks SO much!
Maybe you can help me again, if you don't mind...
93 YJ with a shackle lift. It drives kinda squirelly, like the castor is
off. Which degree shim, do you think, do I need?
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"c" <c@me.org> wrote:
> Unfortunately what you got is very typical of some of the chain auto stores
> these days. Luckily our NAPA has some pretty good people behind the counter.
> But go to Auto Boner or CarQuest and you're playing Russian Roulette.
> Anyway, I just called our NAPA, and got 2 part numbers for you. The 1 degree
> shim is 704-1161 and the 3 degree shim is 704-1163.
>
> HTH
> Chris
AHHH! Too Cool! Thanks SO much!
Maybe you can help me again, if you don't mind...
93 YJ with a shackle lift. It drives kinda squirelly, like the castor is
off. Which degree shim, do you think, do I need?
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
In article <Vfwpb.105700$832.104700@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
"c" <c@me.org> wrote:
> Unfortunately what you got is very typical of some of the chain auto stores
> these days. Luckily our NAPA has some pretty good people behind the counter.
> But go to Auto Boner or CarQuest and you're playing Russian Roulette.
> Anyway, I just called our NAPA, and got 2 part numbers for you. The 1 degree
> shim is 704-1161 and the 3 degree shim is 704-1163.
>
> HTH
> Chris
AHHH! Too Cool! Thanks SO much!
Maybe you can help me again, if you don't mind...
93 YJ with a shackle lift. It drives kinda squirelly, like the castor is
off. Which degree shim, do you think, do I need?
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"c" <c@me.org> wrote:
> Unfortunately what you got is very typical of some of the chain auto stores
> these days. Luckily our NAPA has some pretty good people behind the counter.
> But go to Auto Boner or CarQuest and you're playing Russian Roulette.
> Anyway, I just called our NAPA, and got 2 part numbers for you. The 1 degree
> shim is 704-1161 and the 3 degree shim is 704-1163.
>
> HTH
> Chris
AHHH! Too Cool! Thanks SO much!
Maybe you can help me again, if you don't mind...
93 YJ with a shackle lift. It drives kinda squirelly, like the castor is
off. Which degree shim, do you think, do I need?
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11-03-2003, 12:50 PM
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
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> In article <Vfwpb.105700$832.104700@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately what you got is very typical of some of the chain auto
stores
> > these days. Luckily our NAPA has some pretty good people behind the
counter.
> > But go to Auto Boner or CarQuest and you're playing Russian Roulette.
> > Anyway, I just called our NAPA, and got 2 part numbers for you. The 1
degree
> > shim is 704-1161 and the 3 degree shim is 704-1163.
> >
> > HTH
> > Chris
>
> AHHH! Too Cool! Thanks SO much!
>
> Maybe you can help me again, if you don't mind...
>
> 93 YJ with a shackle lift. It drives kinda squirelly, like the castor is
> off. Which degree shim, do you think, do I need?
>
This is just an opinion, but I would go right to the 3 degree shim. A little
extra caster helps the tires return to center easier, but the drawback is
that it takes a bit more effort to turn the steering wheel. This really
isn't an issue with power steering, but it might be noticeable with manual
steering. The other issue is that when the wheels are turned, they will "lay
over", or camber a bit more. I suppose this could cause a little more tire
wear, but it is negligible. The best way to illustrate the tires laying over
would be if you remember the old front engine dragsters that had the bicycle
type wheels on the front. Most of them had an awful lot of caster built in
to the front suspension, but it was for high speed stability.
Chris
11-03-2003, 12:50 PM
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
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> In article <Vfwpb.105700$832.104700@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately what you got is very typical of some of the chain auto
stores
> > these days. Luckily our NAPA has some pretty good people behind the
counter.
> > But go to Auto Boner or CarQuest and you're playing Russian Roulette.
> > Anyway, I just called our NAPA, and got 2 part numbers for you. The 1
degree
> > shim is 704-1161 and the 3 degree shim is 704-1163.
> >
> > HTH
> > Chris
>
> AHHH! Too Cool! Thanks SO much!
>
> Maybe you can help me again, if you don't mind...
>
> 93 YJ with a shackle lift. It drives kinda squirelly, like the castor is
> off. Which degree shim, do you think, do I need?
>
This is just an opinion, but I would go right to the 3 degree shim. A little
extra caster helps the tires return to center easier, but the drawback is
that it takes a bit more effort to turn the steering wheel. This really
isn't an issue with power steering, but it might be noticeable with manual
steering. The other issue is that when the wheels are turned, they will "lay
over", or camber a bit more. I suppose this could cause a little more tire
wear, but it is negligible. The best way to illustrate the tires laying over
would be if you remember the old front engine dragsters that had the bicycle
type wheels on the front. Most of them had an awful lot of caster built in
to the front suspension, but it was for high speed stability.
Chris
11-03-2003, 12:50 PM
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
"Jeepers" <moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote in message
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> In article <Vfwpb.105700$832.104700@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately what you got is very typical of some of the chain auto
stores
> > these days. Luckily our NAPA has some pretty good people behind the
counter.
> > But go to Auto Boner or CarQuest and you're playing Russian Roulette.
> > Anyway, I just called our NAPA, and got 2 part numbers for you. The 1
degree
> > shim is 704-1161 and the 3 degree shim is 704-1163.
> >
> > HTH
> > Chris
>
> AHHH! Too Cool! Thanks SO much!
>
> Maybe you can help me again, if you don't mind...
>
> 93 YJ with a shackle lift. It drives kinda squirelly, like the castor is
> off. Which degree shim, do you think, do I need?
>
This is just an opinion, but I would go right to the 3 degree shim. A little
extra caster helps the tires return to center easier, but the drawback is
that it takes a bit more effort to turn the steering wheel. This really
isn't an issue with power steering, but it might be noticeable with manual
steering. The other issue is that when the wheels are turned, they will "lay
over", or camber a bit more. I suppose this could cause a little more tire
wear, but it is negligible. The best way to illustrate the tires laying over
would be if you remember the old front engine dragsters that had the bicycle
type wheels on the front. Most of them had an awful lot of caster built in
to the front suspension, but it was for high speed stability.
Chris
11-03-2003, 12:54 PM
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
Could it be yu need a drop pitman arm to get rid of bump steer?
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 11:41:22 -0600, Jeepers
<moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote:
>In article <Vfwpb.105700$832.104700@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately what you got is very typical of some of the chain auto stores
>> these days. Luckily our NAPA has some pretty good people behind the counter.
>> But go to Auto Boner or CarQuest and you're playing Russian Roulette.
>> Anyway, I just called our NAPA, and got 2 part numbers for you. The 1 degree
>> shim is 704-1161 and the 3 degree shim is 704-1163.
>>
>> HTH
>> Chris
>
>AHHH! Too Cool! Thanks SO much!
>
>Maybe you can help me again, if you don't mind...
>
>93 YJ with a shackle lift. It drives kinda squirelly, like the castor is
>off. Which degree shim, do you think, do I need?
>
>
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On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 11:41:22 -0600, Jeepers
<moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote:
>In article <Vfwpb.105700$832.104700@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately what you got is very typical of some of the chain auto stores
>> these days. Luckily our NAPA has some pretty good people behind the counter.
>> But go to Auto Boner or CarQuest and you're playing Russian Roulette.
>> Anyway, I just called our NAPA, and got 2 part numbers for you. The 1 degree
>> shim is 704-1161 and the 3 degree shim is 704-1163.
>>
>> HTH
>> Chris
>
>AHHH! Too Cool! Thanks SO much!
>
>Maybe you can help me again, if you don't mind...
>
>93 YJ with a shackle lift. It drives kinda squirelly, like the castor is
>off. Which degree shim, do you think, do I need?
>
>
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11-03-2003, 12:54 PM
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
Could it be yu need a drop pitman arm to get rid of bump steer?
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 11:41:22 -0600, Jeepers
<moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote:
>In article <Vfwpb.105700$832.104700@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately what you got is very typical of some of the chain auto stores
>> these days. Luckily our NAPA has some pretty good people behind the counter.
>> But go to Auto Boner or CarQuest and you're playing Russian Roulette.
>> Anyway, I just called our NAPA, and got 2 part numbers for you. The 1 degree
>> shim is 704-1161 and the 3 degree shim is 704-1163.
>>
>> HTH
>> Chris
>
>AHHH! Too Cool! Thanks SO much!
>
>Maybe you can help me again, if you don't mind...
>
>93 YJ with a shackle lift. It drives kinda squirelly, like the castor is
>off. Which degree shim, do you think, do I need?
>
>
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On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 11:41:22 -0600, Jeepers
<moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote:
>In article <Vfwpb.105700$832.104700@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately what you got is very typical of some of the chain auto stores
>> these days. Luckily our NAPA has some pretty good people behind the counter.
>> But go to Auto Boner or CarQuest and you're playing Russian Roulette.
>> Anyway, I just called our NAPA, and got 2 part numbers for you. The 1 degree
>> shim is 704-1161 and the 3 degree shim is 704-1163.
>>
>> HTH
>> Chris
>
>AHHH! Too Cool! Thanks SO much!
>
>Maybe you can help me again, if you don't mind...
>
>93 YJ with a shackle lift. It drives kinda squirelly, like the castor is
>off. Which degree shim, do you think, do I need?
>
>
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11-03-2003, 12:54 PM
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
Could it be yu need a drop pitman arm to get rid of bump steer?
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 11:41:22 -0600, Jeepers
<moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote:
>In article <Vfwpb.105700$832.104700@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately what you got is very typical of some of the chain auto stores
>> these days. Luckily our NAPA has some pretty good people behind the counter.
>> But go to Auto Boner or CarQuest and you're playing Russian Roulette.
>> Anyway, I just called our NAPA, and got 2 part numbers for you. The 1 degree
>> shim is 704-1161 and the 3 degree shim is 704-1163.
>>
>> HTH
>> Chris
>
>AHHH! Too Cool! Thanks SO much!
>
>Maybe you can help me again, if you don't mind...
>
>93 YJ with a shackle lift. It drives kinda squirelly, like the castor is
>off. Which degree shim, do you think, do I need?
>
>
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On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 11:41:22 -0600, Jeepers
<moomesa@INVALIDfnbnet.net> wrote:
>In article <Vfwpb.105700$832.104700@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately what you got is very typical of some of the chain auto stores
>> these days. Luckily our NAPA has some pretty good people behind the counter.
>> But go to Auto Boner or CarQuest and you're playing Russian Roulette.
>> Anyway, I just called our NAPA, and got 2 part numbers for you. The 1 degree
>> shim is 704-1161 and the 3 degree shim is 704-1163.
>>
>> HTH
>> Chris
>
>AHHH! Too Cool! Thanks SO much!
>
>Maybe you can help me again, if you don't mind...
>
>93 YJ with a shackle lift. It drives kinda squirelly, like the castor is
>off. Which degree shim, do you think, do I need?
>
>
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11-03-2003, 01:05 PM
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Re: Where might I find "Degree Wedges" for my axle.
In article <Hzwpb.105704$832.96713@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
"c" <c@me.org> wrote:
> This is just an opinion,
Don't worry, understood. ;^)
> but I would go right to the 3 degree shim. A little
> extra caster helps the tires return to center easier, but the drawback is
> that it takes a bit more effort to turn the steering wheel.
I was directed to this wedge thing a while back when we first got my
wife's Jeep. I told the group it was steering kinda twitchily, touchy. I
was told that the shackle lift changed the castor. This I don't debate,
but I got to thinking that the longer front shackle would actually
increase the castor, which I thought was not a too bad a thing. But is
it? I just don't know. So, the wedge would go in from the rear (thick
end in the rear)?
> This really
> isn't an issue with power steering, but it might be noticeable with manual
> steering. The other issue is that when the wheels are turned, they will "lay
> over", or camber a bit more. I suppose this could cause a little more tire
> wear, but it is negligible. The best way to illustrate the tires laying over
> would be if you remember the old front engine dragsters that had the bicycle
> type wheels on the front. Most of them had an awful lot of caster built in
> to the front suspension, but it was for high speed stability.
>
> Chris
Gotcha. That little YJ already rides the tire tracks on the road, up and
down. :^)
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"c" <c@me.org> wrote:
> This is just an opinion,
Don't worry, understood. ;^)
> but I would go right to the 3 degree shim. A little
> extra caster helps the tires return to center easier, but the drawback is
> that it takes a bit more effort to turn the steering wheel.
I was directed to this wedge thing a while back when we first got my
wife's Jeep. I told the group it was steering kinda twitchily, touchy. I
was told that the shackle lift changed the castor. This I don't debate,
but I got to thinking that the longer front shackle would actually
increase the castor, which I thought was not a too bad a thing. But is
it? I just don't know. So, the wedge would go in from the rear (thick
end in the rear)?
> This really
> isn't an issue with power steering, but it might be noticeable with manual
> steering. The other issue is that when the wheels are turned, they will "lay
> over", or camber a bit more. I suppose this could cause a little more tire
> wear, but it is negligible. The best way to illustrate the tires laying over
> would be if you remember the old front engine dragsters that had the bicycle
> type wheels on the front. Most of them had an awful lot of caster built in
> to the front suspension, but it was for high speed stability.
>
> Chris
Gotcha. That little YJ already rides the tire tracks on the road, up and
down. :^)
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