At least they could make one with 4 doors...when was that 4 door
Wrangler concept?? 97, 98?

--
--
Joe Pribe
NC
jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ



"John Sevey" <seveyj@no.spam.like.substance.wi.rr.com> wrote in
message news:v2u_b.28897$Dg1.19794@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
| mic canic <dbrider@cac.net> wrote:
| > they will be introducing a new longer wrangler this spring that
has more rear
| > seat foot room and more storage room behind the seat and wish i
brought home
| > the new model highlites sheet for it it will be the same as the
other
| > wrangler's from the front to the rear of the doors but changes
after that ,but
| > this version will be a 2 door stiill but with a longer wheel
base.while they
| > finalize the 4dr. the towing cap. will go from 2500lbs to 3500lbs
there is
| > more but i just can't remember
|
| Just saw one of these at the Milwaukee Auto Show yesterday. The
folks manning
| the Jeep booth claimed that it was also wider. It didn't look it to
me, so
| I have my doubts. It is going to be called the Wrangler Unlimited.
|
| In addition, it had the Dana 44 rear, Dana 30 up front, 4 wheer disc
brakes,
| and auto tranny. The "babe" on the turntable platform, while giving
the
| rundown of options said that it would have the automatic
transmission. This
| seemed to imply to me that it wasn't an option, but rather standard
for this
| "package".
|
| In addition, she mentioned that the soft top had an option where you
could
| simply fold back the front part for a sunroof feature.
|
| OK, taking a look at Jeep's website, I see that they now have
preliminary specs
| online:
|
| Unlimited Sahara Rubicon
| wheelbase 103.4" 93.4" 93.4"
| track F/R 58/58" 58.5/58.5" 59.5/59.5"
| cargo cap
| behind rear seat 23.42cuft 11.9cuft same
| rear seat removed 74.4cuft 47.1cuft same
| rear folded+tumbled 53.41cuft (not listed)
|
| If it is "wider" (whatever the sales folks meant by that), it is
probably
| due to the tire/rim combination that they chose for it.
|
| The site lists maximum trailer weight w/4.0L engine as 3500 pounds.
|
| Hmmm, looking up the specs for a Cherokee (a _real_ Cherokee, not
the
| "wannabe"):
|
| 1998 Cherokee 2 door Sport (mine)
| wheelbase 101.4"
| track F/R (I have to look this up in my old books, since I can't
find
| it online right now)
| cargo cap 32.9cuft (69cuft - rear seat folded)
|
| Looks like the cargo capacity and wheelbase on the new Wrangler
Unlimited is
| greater than that of my 1998 Cherokee. Interesting.
|
| It looks like that's as close as we're going to get to having the
real
| Cherokee back. Since I have a 2-door Cherokee, the lack of 2 extra
doors
| doesn't matter to me... :)
|
| Actually, I was quite blindsided by this introduction. When I heard
that
| Jeep was going to be producing these stretched Wranglers, I must
admit that
| I was confused. Their current "direction" seems to be pointing
towards IFS
| and high-revving-rubber-timing-belt-infested V6 engines wrapped in
"cute ute"
| body cladding. Could this mean that Daimler is actually listening
to their
| Jeep customers?
|
| Somebody pinch me, I think I'm dreaming again...
|
| -John

 

AHHHH.............you misunderstand - the wife is the one with the desire to
get the mustang done - but my time off has been spoken for lately (working
on my sons jeep, working on my wife's explorer - I'm trying to keep the
Explorer running the best in hopes of keeping her mind off of the new Tahoe
she has been hinting about - , moving, CE, Staff RPh needs day off, & of
course one can not forget that a certain amount of time must be spent on the
couch to prevent mental illness)

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang


"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:XiU_b.951$yz6.347954322@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
> Maybe you could go out there alone and just start on it again. That
> might create some interest for the others once they see you out there in
> action. Get the rust off and put a first coat of primer on it. It'll
> change the looks considerably. Sounds like a fun project to me.
>
> Carlo wrote:
>
> > I gave it to my son when he turned 13 (he will be 23 in May). We
stripped
> > the paint, pulled the engine/tranny, etc, etc & after 2 weeks of half
assed
> > (although with extreme effort) body work, he became disillusioned. It
has
> > been sitting in the drive way since then. Each & every summer I promise
my
> > wife that we will "do some bonding" & together, we will make it
streetable
> > again. It's got a lot of rust,now - but I am pretty sure that we might,
at
> > least get a real good start at it this summer. This is actually
something
> > that she wants to do - so it's hard to pass up the opportunity for
quality
> > time.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

 

AHHHH.............you misunderstand - the wife is the one with the desire to
get the mustang done - but my time off has been spoken for lately (working
on my sons jeep, working on my wife's explorer - I'm trying to keep the
Explorer running the best in hopes of keeping her mind off of the new Tahoe
she has been hinting about - , moving, CE, Staff RPh needs day off, & of
course one can not forget that a certain amount of time must be spent on the
couch to prevent mental illness)

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang


"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:XiU_b.951$yz6.347954322@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
> Maybe you could go out there alone and just start on it again. That
> might create some interest for the others once they see you out there in
> action. Get the rust off and put a first coat of primer on it. It'll
> change the looks considerably. Sounds like a fun project to me.
>
> Carlo wrote:
>
> > I gave it to my son when he turned 13 (he will be 23 in May). We
stripped
> > the paint, pulled the engine/tranny, etc, etc & after 2 weeks of half
assed
> > (although with extreme effort) body work, he became disillusioned. It
has
> > been sitting in the drive way since then. Each & every summer I promise
my
> > wife that we will "do some bonding" & together, we will make it
streetable
> > again. It's got a lot of rust,now - but I am pretty sure that we might,
at
> > least get a real good start at it this summer. This is actually
something
> > that she wants to do - so it's hard to pass up the opportunity for
quality
> > time.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

 

AHHHH.............you misunderstand - the wife is the one with the desire to
get the mustang done - but my time off has been spoken for lately (working
on my sons jeep, working on my wife's explorer - I'm trying to keep the
Explorer running the best in hopes of keeping her mind off of the new Tahoe
she has been hinting about - , moving, CE, Staff RPh needs day off, & of
course one can not forget that a certain amount of time must be spent on the
couch to prevent mental illness)

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang


"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:XiU_b.951$yz6.347954322@newssvr11.news.prodig y.com...
> Maybe you could go out there alone and just start on it again. That
> might create some interest for the others once they see you out there in
> action. Get the rust off and put a first coat of primer on it. It'll
> change the looks considerably. Sounds like a fun project to me.
>
> Carlo wrote:
>
> > I gave it to my son when he turned 13 (he will be 23 in May). We
stripped
> > the paint, pulled the engine/tranny, etc, etc & after 2 weeks of half
assed
> > (although with extreme effort) body work, he became disillusioned. It
has
> > been sitting in the drive way since then. Each & every summer I promise
my
> > wife that we will "do some bonding" & together, we will make it
streetable
> > again. It's got a lot of rust,now - but I am pretty sure that we might,
at
> > least get a real good start at it this summer. This is actually
something
> > that she wants to do - so it's hard to pass up the opportunity for
quality
> > time.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>

 

Ditto..........

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang


"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:W0e%b.45432$jx3.4757520@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> At least they could make one with 4 doors...when was that 4 door
> Wrangler concept?? 97, 98?
>
> --
> --
> Joe Pribe
> NC
> jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
> jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
> ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>
>
>
> "John Sevey" <seveyj@no.spam.like.substance.wi.rr.com> wrote in
> message news:v2u_b.28897$Dg1.19794@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> | mic canic <dbrider@cac.net> wrote:
> | > they will be introducing a new longer wrangler this spring that
> has more rear
> | > seat foot room and more storage room behind the seat and wish i
> brought home
> | > the new model highlites sheet for it it will be the same as the
> other
> | > wrangler's from the front to the rear of the doors but changes
> after that ,but
> | > this version will be a 2 door stiill but with a longer wheel
> base.while they
> | > finalize the 4dr. the towing cap. will go from 2500lbs to 3500lbs
> there is
> | > more but i just can't remember
> |
> | Just saw one of these at the Milwaukee Auto Show yesterday. The
> folks manning
> | the Jeep booth claimed that it was also wider. It didn't look it to
> me, so
> | I have my doubts. It is going to be called the Wrangler Unlimited.
> |
> | In addition, it had the Dana 44 rear, Dana 30 up front, 4 wheer disc
> brakes,
> | and auto tranny. The "babe" on the turntable platform, while giving
> the
> | rundown of options said that it would have the automatic
> transmission. This
> | seemed to imply to me that it wasn't an option, but rather standard
> for this
> | "package".
> |
> | In addition, she mentioned that the soft top had an option where you
> could
> | simply fold back the front part for a sunroof feature.
> |
> | OK, taking a look at Jeep's website, I see that they now have
> preliminary specs
> | online:
> |
> | Unlimited Sahara Rubicon
> | wheelbase 103.4" 93.4" 93.4"
> | track F/R 58/58" 58.5/58.5" 59.5/59.5"
> | cargo cap
> | behind rear seat 23.42cuft 11.9cuft same
> | rear seat removed 74.4cuft 47.1cuft same
> | rear folded+tumbled 53.41cuft (not listed)
> |
> | If it is "wider" (whatever the sales folks meant by that), it is
> probably
> | due to the tire/rim combination that they chose for it.
> |
> | The site lists maximum trailer weight w/4.0L engine as 3500 pounds.
> |
> | Hmmm, looking up the specs for a Cherokee (a _real_ Cherokee, not
> the
> | "wannabe"):
> |
> | 1998 Cherokee 2 door Sport (mine)
> | wheelbase 101.4"
> | track F/R (I have to look this up in my old books, since I can't
> find
> | it online right now)
> | cargo cap 32.9cuft (69cuft - rear seat folded)
> |
> | Looks like the cargo capacity and wheelbase on the new Wrangler
> Unlimited is
> | greater than that of my 1998 Cherokee. Interesting.
> |
> | It looks like that's as close as we're going to get to having the
> real
> | Cherokee back. Since I have a 2-door Cherokee, the lack of 2 extra
> doors
> | doesn't matter to me... :)
> |
> | Actually, I was quite blindsided by this introduction. When I heard
> that
> | Jeep was going to be producing these stretched Wranglers, I must
> admit that
> | I was confused. Their current "direction" seems to be pointing
> towards IFS
> | and high-revving-rubber-timing-belt-infested V6 engines wrapped in
> "cute ute"
> | body cladding. Could this mean that Daimler is actually listening
> to their
> | Jeep customers?
> |
> | Somebody pinch me, I think I'm dreaming again...
> |
> | -John
>

 

Ditto..........

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang


"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:W0e%b.45432$jx3.4757520@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> At least they could make one with 4 doors...when was that 4 door
> Wrangler concept?? 97, 98?
>
> --
> --
> Joe Pribe
> NC
> jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
> jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
> ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>
>
>
> "John Sevey" <seveyj@no.spam.like.substance.wi.rr.com> wrote in
> message news:v2u_b.28897$Dg1.19794@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> | mic canic <dbrider@cac.net> wrote:
> | > they will be introducing a new longer wrangler this spring that
> has more rear
> | > seat foot room and more storage room behind the seat and wish i
> brought home
> | > the new model highlites sheet for it it will be the same as the
> other
> | > wrangler's from the front to the rear of the doors but changes
> after that ,but
> | > this version will be a 2 door stiill but with a longer wheel
> base.while they
> | > finalize the 4dr. the towing cap. will go from 2500lbs to 3500lbs
> there is
> | > more but i just can't remember
> |
> | Just saw one of these at the Milwaukee Auto Show yesterday. The
> folks manning
> | the Jeep booth claimed that it was also wider. It didn't look it to
> me, so
> | I have my doubts. It is going to be called the Wrangler Unlimited.
> |
> | In addition, it had the Dana 44 rear, Dana 30 up front, 4 wheer disc
> brakes,
> | and auto tranny. The "babe" on the turntable platform, while giving
> the
> | rundown of options said that it would have the automatic
> transmission. This
> | seemed to imply to me that it wasn't an option, but rather standard
> for this
> | "package".
> |
> | In addition, she mentioned that the soft top had an option where you
> could
> | simply fold back the front part for a sunroof feature.
> |
> | OK, taking a look at Jeep's website, I see that they now have
> preliminary specs
> | online:
> |
> | Unlimited Sahara Rubicon
> | wheelbase 103.4" 93.4" 93.4"
> | track F/R 58/58" 58.5/58.5" 59.5/59.5"
> | cargo cap
> | behind rear seat 23.42cuft 11.9cuft same
> | rear seat removed 74.4cuft 47.1cuft same
> | rear folded+tumbled 53.41cuft (not listed)
> |
> | If it is "wider" (whatever the sales folks meant by that), it is
> probably
> | due to the tire/rim combination that they chose for it.
> |
> | The site lists maximum trailer weight w/4.0L engine as 3500 pounds.
> |
> | Hmmm, looking up the specs for a Cherokee (a _real_ Cherokee, not
> the
> | "wannabe"):
> |
> | 1998 Cherokee 2 door Sport (mine)
> | wheelbase 101.4"
> | track F/R (I have to look this up in my old books, since I can't
> find
> | it online right now)
> | cargo cap 32.9cuft (69cuft - rear seat folded)
> |
> | Looks like the cargo capacity and wheelbase on the new Wrangler
> Unlimited is
> | greater than that of my 1998 Cherokee. Interesting.
> |
> | It looks like that's as close as we're going to get to having the
> real
> | Cherokee back. Since I have a 2-door Cherokee, the lack of 2 extra
> doors
> | doesn't matter to me... :)
> |
> | Actually, I was quite blindsided by this introduction. When I heard
> that
> | Jeep was going to be producing these stretched Wranglers, I must
> admit that
> | I was confused. Their current "direction" seems to be pointing
> towards IFS
> | and high-revving-rubber-timing-belt-infested V6 engines wrapped in
> "cute ute"
> | body cladding. Could this mean that Daimler is actually listening
> to their
> | Jeep customers?
> |
> | Somebody pinch me, I think I'm dreaming again...
> |
> | -John
>

 

Ditto..........

--
Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
carlo.jr at comcast DOTnet
'98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
O|||||||O
'92 Explorer '65 Mustang


"Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:W0e%b.45432$jx3.4757520@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> At least they could make one with 4 doors...when was that 4 door
> Wrangler concept?? 97, 98?
>
> --
> --
> Joe Pribe
> NC
> jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
> jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
> ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>
>
>
> "John Sevey" <seveyj@no.spam.like.substance.wi.rr.com> wrote in
> message news:v2u_b.28897$Dg1.19794@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> | mic canic <dbrider@cac.net> wrote:
> | > they will be introducing a new longer wrangler this spring that
> has more rear
> | > seat foot room and more storage room behind the seat and wish i
> brought home
> | > the new model highlites sheet for it it will be the same as the
> other
> | > wrangler's from the front to the rear of the doors but changes
> after that ,but
> | > this version will be a 2 door stiill but with a longer wheel
> base.while they
> | > finalize the 4dr. the towing cap. will go from 2500lbs to 3500lbs
> there is
> | > more but i just can't remember
> |
> | Just saw one of these at the Milwaukee Auto Show yesterday. The
> folks manning
> | the Jeep booth claimed that it was also wider. It didn't look it to
> me, so
> | I have my doubts. It is going to be called the Wrangler Unlimited.
> |
> | In addition, it had the Dana 44 rear, Dana 30 up front, 4 wheer disc
> brakes,
> | and auto tranny. The "babe" on the turntable platform, while giving
> the
> | rundown of options said that it would have the automatic
> transmission. This
> | seemed to imply to me that it wasn't an option, but rather standard
> for this
> | "package".
> |
> | In addition, she mentioned that the soft top had an option where you
> could
> | simply fold back the front part for a sunroof feature.
> |
> | OK, taking a look at Jeep's website, I see that they now have
> preliminary specs
> | online:
> |
> | Unlimited Sahara Rubicon
> | wheelbase 103.4" 93.4" 93.4"
> | track F/R 58/58" 58.5/58.5" 59.5/59.5"
> | cargo cap
> | behind rear seat 23.42cuft 11.9cuft same
> | rear seat removed 74.4cuft 47.1cuft same
> | rear folded+tumbled 53.41cuft (not listed)
> |
> | If it is "wider" (whatever the sales folks meant by that), it is
> probably
> | due to the tire/rim combination that they chose for it.
> |
> | The site lists maximum trailer weight w/4.0L engine as 3500 pounds.
> |
> | Hmmm, looking up the specs for a Cherokee (a _real_ Cherokee, not
> the
> | "wannabe"):
> |
> | 1998 Cherokee 2 door Sport (mine)
> | wheelbase 101.4"
> | track F/R (I have to look this up in my old books, since I can't
> find
> | it online right now)
> | cargo cap 32.9cuft (69cuft - rear seat folded)
> |
> | Looks like the cargo capacity and wheelbase on the new Wrangler
> Unlimited is
> | greater than that of my 1998 Cherokee. Interesting.
> |
> | It looks like that's as close as we're going to get to having the
> real
> | Cherokee back. Since I have a 2-door Cherokee, the lack of 2 extra
> doors
> | doesn't matter to me... :)
> |
> | Actually, I was quite blindsided by this introduction. When I heard
> that
> | Jeep was going to be producing these stretched Wranglers, I must
> admit that
> | I was confused. Their current "direction" seems to be pointing
> towards IFS
> | and high-revving-rubber-timing-belt-infested V6 engines wrapped in
> "cute ute"
> | body cladding. Could this mean that Daimler is actually listening
> to their
> | Jeep customers?
> |
> | Somebody pinch me, I think I'm dreaming again...
> |
> | -John
>