What does the Mechanic get
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
"Barry Bean" <bbbean@beancotton.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9470A4BD6B71Deatmorecotton@207.14.113.17.. .
> "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in
> news:4005764b$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net:
>
> >
> > Well, that's not so in most dealerships. The tech gets paid when he
> > is working on a paying customer's automobile. Tech doesn't get paid
> > to clean the house, train the new guy, road test for hours to
> > duplicate an impossible concern, etc..
>
> I have never known a dealership mechanic who didn't simply draw a salary
or
> hourly wage for the time he was at the dealership. Are you saying that the
> dealership mechanics you know are independent contractors who only get
paid
> while they're actualy working on a customer vehicle?
It depends on what part of the country you're in. Many dealerships are still
"flat rate" IOW they get paid what the book says they get paid on a per job
basis regardless of how long it actually takes them to complete the job. The
upside is that it's possible for a technician to "flag" more than 8 hours a
day or 40 hours a week even though he only works for 40 hours.
For example: The Chilton's Flat Rate Manual calls for a heater core
replacement to pay 4 hours so the customer is quoted 4 hours of labor at the
posted shop rate. The technician happens to know a shortcut to get the job
done in only 2 hours of real time but he "flags" the job at 4 hours at his
hourly pay rate. The customer pays for 4 hours worth of work, the technician
gets paid for 4 hours of work but he still has an extra 2 hours to complete
more jobs. At the end of the day the technician's timecard could show him
working 8 hours but getting paid for 10-12 hours depending on what other
jobs he completed.
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
Roughly 1/14/04 15:13, Nathan Collier's monkeys randomly typed:
> c'mon now lon be fair....thats not what ive said. im not suggesting they
> should work for "free". im not suggesting they should work for "peanuts".
> im talking about gross abuse such as those i listed in the response that you
> replied to.
Perhaps it was a knee jerk reaction, being a "hired brain" for a
living and having put a lot of off-clock hours into maintaining
bleeding edge skills in a very competitive field. And then
encountering folks who bitch at why it costs them a few hundred
per hour for fixing certain types of situation that involve
cross-discipline skills. Usually followed by "if you weren't in
deep doo doo, I wouldn't be here, and you are welcome to continue
in your current world of hurt or pay someone else even more money
to save your sorry buttocks..."
> c'mon now lon be fair....thats not what ive said. im not suggesting they
> should work for "free". im not suggesting they should work for "peanuts".
> im talking about gross abuse such as those i listed in the response that you
> replied to.
Perhaps it was a knee jerk reaction, being a "hired brain" for a
living and having put a lot of off-clock hours into maintaining
bleeding edge skills in a very competitive field. And then
encountering folks who bitch at why it costs them a few hundred
per hour for fixing certain types of situation that involve
cross-discipline skills. Usually followed by "if you weren't in
deep doo doo, I wouldn't be here, and you are welcome to continue
in your current world of hurt or pay someone else even more money
to save your sorry buttocks..."
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
Roughly 1/14/04 15:13, Nathan Collier's monkeys randomly typed:
> c'mon now lon be fair....thats not what ive said. im not suggesting they
> should work for "free". im not suggesting they should work for "peanuts".
> im talking about gross abuse such as those i listed in the response that you
> replied to.
Perhaps it was a knee jerk reaction, being a "hired brain" for a
living and having put a lot of off-clock hours into maintaining
bleeding edge skills in a very competitive field. And then
encountering folks who bitch at why it costs them a few hundred
per hour for fixing certain types of situation that involve
cross-discipline skills. Usually followed by "if you weren't in
deep doo doo, I wouldn't be here, and you are welcome to continue
in your current world of hurt or pay someone else even more money
to save your sorry buttocks..."
> c'mon now lon be fair....thats not what ive said. im not suggesting they
> should work for "free". im not suggesting they should work for "peanuts".
> im talking about gross abuse such as those i listed in the response that you
> replied to.
Perhaps it was a knee jerk reaction, being a "hired brain" for a
living and having put a lot of off-clock hours into maintaining
bleeding edge skills in a very competitive field. And then
encountering folks who bitch at why it costs them a few hundred
per hour for fixing certain types of situation that involve
cross-discipline skills. Usually followed by "if you weren't in
deep doo doo, I wouldn't be here, and you are welcome to continue
in your current world of hurt or pay someone else even more money
to save your sorry buttocks..."
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
Roughly 1/14/04 15:13, Nathan Collier's monkeys randomly typed:
> c'mon now lon be fair....thats not what ive said. im not suggesting they
> should work for "free". im not suggesting they should work for "peanuts".
> im talking about gross abuse such as those i listed in the response that you
> replied to.
Perhaps it was a knee jerk reaction, being a "hired brain" for a
living and having put a lot of off-clock hours into maintaining
bleeding edge skills in a very competitive field. And then
encountering folks who bitch at why it costs them a few hundred
per hour for fixing certain types of situation that involve
cross-discipline skills. Usually followed by "if you weren't in
deep doo doo, I wouldn't be here, and you are welcome to continue
in your current world of hurt or pay someone else even more money
to save your sorry buttocks..."
> c'mon now lon be fair....thats not what ive said. im not suggesting they
> should work for "free". im not suggesting they should work for "peanuts".
> im talking about gross abuse such as those i listed in the response that you
> replied to.
Perhaps it was a knee jerk reaction, being a "hired brain" for a
living and having put a lot of off-clock hours into maintaining
bleeding edge skills in a very competitive field. And then
encountering folks who bitch at why it costs them a few hundred
per hour for fixing certain types of situation that involve
cross-discipline skills. Usually followed by "if you weren't in
deep doo doo, I wouldn't be here, and you are welcome to continue
in your current world of hurt or pay someone else even more money
to save your sorry buttocks..."
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
Roughly 1/14/04 15:47, Paul Calman's monkeys randomly typed:
>> What were you doing in the cemetary? Most of the locals just go
>> down to the State Park by the water plant to make out. Or cut
>> down thru the old Missile Base and head down to Crystal Geyser.
>
>
> I was on my way to Cedaredge, CO, with 5 friends on a bike trip, and ahead
> of schedule, so we thought it looked like a good place to kill time. It was.
> The State Campground is a good one. Cemetarys are a window on the history of
> a place, and this one had Spanish-American War dead, and lots of cool
> whirlygigs, and was well maintained.
> We saw a house made of stacked railroad ties, a weird trike, the Museum, and
> the Nike missile in town.
>
That missile isn't a Nike. It is the Athena, also known as the
"flying trashpile" within the business. A 4 stage pure research
missile that Atlantic Research porked together from the parts bin
that initially was used to test re-entry systems, but came to
be used pretty much for anything that it could loft into the air
from Green River down to White Sands proper.
If you missed the Crystal Geyser, check it out the next time
you go thru there. Two different onyx outcrops, one right down
at the waterline, the other on top of a modest hill up behind
the geyser. Plus as the geyser percolates, you can see the
big line of bubbles rising up pretty much clear across the
river.
And up in those cliffs behind the geyser are some of the nicest
imbedments of dinosaur bone near the area.
And every now and then along the reef ridge above Maggies Teat
rock formation [when you see it, you'll know...named after
the lady that owned the cafe next to Rays Tavern according to
local folklore] you'll find really really nice arrowheads.
Plus one of the largest deposits of pigeon blood agate, and
stuffed olive agate [a butte with an entire top made of the
stuff]. And around some of the old mines, lots of nice pretty
green [and radioactive] uranium salts crystals.
And if you want rugged country, head just slightly west and
turn toward Hanksville, then cut off just before the biiiig
wash and head to the left down past the old Pershing
area. Or head west on I-70 into the reefs, and cut off
about 40 miles out and head down into the canyons. Warning
that this is country that the Jeep pussies that hang out over
around Moab tend to avoid.
>> What were you doing in the cemetary? Most of the locals just go
>> down to the State Park by the water plant to make out. Or cut
>> down thru the old Missile Base and head down to Crystal Geyser.
>
>
> I was on my way to Cedaredge, CO, with 5 friends on a bike trip, and ahead
> of schedule, so we thought it looked like a good place to kill time. It was.
> The State Campground is a good one. Cemetarys are a window on the history of
> a place, and this one had Spanish-American War dead, and lots of cool
> whirlygigs, and was well maintained.
> We saw a house made of stacked railroad ties, a weird trike, the Museum, and
> the Nike missile in town.
>
That missile isn't a Nike. It is the Athena, also known as the
"flying trashpile" within the business. A 4 stage pure research
missile that Atlantic Research porked together from the parts bin
that initially was used to test re-entry systems, but came to
be used pretty much for anything that it could loft into the air
from Green River down to White Sands proper.
If you missed the Crystal Geyser, check it out the next time
you go thru there. Two different onyx outcrops, one right down
at the waterline, the other on top of a modest hill up behind
the geyser. Plus as the geyser percolates, you can see the
big line of bubbles rising up pretty much clear across the
river.
And up in those cliffs behind the geyser are some of the nicest
imbedments of dinosaur bone near the area.
And every now and then along the reef ridge above Maggies Teat
rock formation [when you see it, you'll know...named after
the lady that owned the cafe next to Rays Tavern according to
local folklore] you'll find really really nice arrowheads.
Plus one of the largest deposits of pigeon blood agate, and
stuffed olive agate [a butte with an entire top made of the
stuff]. And around some of the old mines, lots of nice pretty
green [and radioactive] uranium salts crystals.
And if you want rugged country, head just slightly west and
turn toward Hanksville, then cut off just before the biiiig
wash and head to the left down past the old Pershing
area. Or head west on I-70 into the reefs, and cut off
about 40 miles out and head down into the canyons. Warning
that this is country that the Jeep pussies that hang out over
around Moab tend to avoid.
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
Roughly 1/14/04 15:47, Paul Calman's monkeys randomly typed:
>> What were you doing in the cemetary? Most of the locals just go
>> down to the State Park by the water plant to make out. Or cut
>> down thru the old Missile Base and head down to Crystal Geyser.
>
>
> I was on my way to Cedaredge, CO, with 5 friends on a bike trip, and ahead
> of schedule, so we thought it looked like a good place to kill time. It was.
> The State Campground is a good one. Cemetarys are a window on the history of
> a place, and this one had Spanish-American War dead, and lots of cool
> whirlygigs, and was well maintained.
> We saw a house made of stacked railroad ties, a weird trike, the Museum, and
> the Nike missile in town.
>
That missile isn't a Nike. It is the Athena, also known as the
"flying trashpile" within the business. A 4 stage pure research
missile that Atlantic Research porked together from the parts bin
that initially was used to test re-entry systems, but came to
be used pretty much for anything that it could loft into the air
from Green River down to White Sands proper.
If you missed the Crystal Geyser, check it out the next time
you go thru there. Two different onyx outcrops, one right down
at the waterline, the other on top of a modest hill up behind
the geyser. Plus as the geyser percolates, you can see the
big line of bubbles rising up pretty much clear across the
river.
And up in those cliffs behind the geyser are some of the nicest
imbedments of dinosaur bone near the area.
And every now and then along the reef ridge above Maggies Teat
rock formation [when you see it, you'll know...named after
the lady that owned the cafe next to Rays Tavern according to
local folklore] you'll find really really nice arrowheads.
Plus one of the largest deposits of pigeon blood agate, and
stuffed olive agate [a butte with an entire top made of the
stuff]. And around some of the old mines, lots of nice pretty
green [and radioactive] uranium salts crystals.
And if you want rugged country, head just slightly west and
turn toward Hanksville, then cut off just before the biiiig
wash and head to the left down past the old Pershing
area. Or head west on I-70 into the reefs, and cut off
about 40 miles out and head down into the canyons. Warning
that this is country that the Jeep pussies that hang out over
around Moab tend to avoid.
>> What were you doing in the cemetary? Most of the locals just go
>> down to the State Park by the water plant to make out. Or cut
>> down thru the old Missile Base and head down to Crystal Geyser.
>
>
> I was on my way to Cedaredge, CO, with 5 friends on a bike trip, and ahead
> of schedule, so we thought it looked like a good place to kill time. It was.
> The State Campground is a good one. Cemetarys are a window on the history of
> a place, and this one had Spanish-American War dead, and lots of cool
> whirlygigs, and was well maintained.
> We saw a house made of stacked railroad ties, a weird trike, the Museum, and
> the Nike missile in town.
>
That missile isn't a Nike. It is the Athena, also known as the
"flying trashpile" within the business. A 4 stage pure research
missile that Atlantic Research porked together from the parts bin
that initially was used to test re-entry systems, but came to
be used pretty much for anything that it could loft into the air
from Green River down to White Sands proper.
If you missed the Crystal Geyser, check it out the next time
you go thru there. Two different onyx outcrops, one right down
at the waterline, the other on top of a modest hill up behind
the geyser. Plus as the geyser percolates, you can see the
big line of bubbles rising up pretty much clear across the
river.
And up in those cliffs behind the geyser are some of the nicest
imbedments of dinosaur bone near the area.
And every now and then along the reef ridge above Maggies Teat
rock formation [when you see it, you'll know...named after
the lady that owned the cafe next to Rays Tavern according to
local folklore] you'll find really really nice arrowheads.
Plus one of the largest deposits of pigeon blood agate, and
stuffed olive agate [a butte with an entire top made of the
stuff]. And around some of the old mines, lots of nice pretty
green [and radioactive] uranium salts crystals.
And if you want rugged country, head just slightly west and
turn toward Hanksville, then cut off just before the biiiig
wash and head to the left down past the old Pershing
area. Or head west on I-70 into the reefs, and cut off
about 40 miles out and head down into the canyons. Warning
that this is country that the Jeep pussies that hang out over
around Moab tend to avoid.
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Re: What does the Mechanic get
Roughly 1/14/04 15:47, Paul Calman's monkeys randomly typed:
>> What were you doing in the cemetary? Most of the locals just go
>> down to the State Park by the water plant to make out. Or cut
>> down thru the old Missile Base and head down to Crystal Geyser.
>
>
> I was on my way to Cedaredge, CO, with 5 friends on a bike trip, and ahead
> of schedule, so we thought it looked like a good place to kill time. It was.
> The State Campground is a good one. Cemetarys are a window on the history of
> a place, and this one had Spanish-American War dead, and lots of cool
> whirlygigs, and was well maintained.
> We saw a house made of stacked railroad ties, a weird trike, the Museum, and
> the Nike missile in town.
>
That missile isn't a Nike. It is the Athena, also known as the
"flying trashpile" within the business. A 4 stage pure research
missile that Atlantic Research porked together from the parts bin
that initially was used to test re-entry systems, but came to
be used pretty much for anything that it could loft into the air
from Green River down to White Sands proper.
If you missed the Crystal Geyser, check it out the next time
you go thru there. Two different onyx outcrops, one right down
at the waterline, the other on top of a modest hill up behind
the geyser. Plus as the geyser percolates, you can see the
big line of bubbles rising up pretty much clear across the
river.
And up in those cliffs behind the geyser are some of the nicest
imbedments of dinosaur bone near the area.
And every now and then along the reef ridge above Maggies Teat
rock formation [when you see it, you'll know...named after
the lady that owned the cafe next to Rays Tavern according to
local folklore] you'll find really really nice arrowheads.
Plus one of the largest deposits of pigeon blood agate, and
stuffed olive agate [a butte with an entire top made of the
stuff]. And around some of the old mines, lots of nice pretty
green [and radioactive] uranium salts crystals.
And if you want rugged country, head just slightly west and
turn toward Hanksville, then cut off just before the biiiig
wash and head to the left down past the old Pershing
area. Or head west on I-70 into the reefs, and cut off
about 40 miles out and head down into the canyons. Warning
that this is country that the Jeep pussies that hang out over
around Moab tend to avoid.
>> What were you doing in the cemetary? Most of the locals just go
>> down to the State Park by the water plant to make out. Or cut
>> down thru the old Missile Base and head down to Crystal Geyser.
>
>
> I was on my way to Cedaredge, CO, with 5 friends on a bike trip, and ahead
> of schedule, so we thought it looked like a good place to kill time. It was.
> The State Campground is a good one. Cemetarys are a window on the history of
> a place, and this one had Spanish-American War dead, and lots of cool
> whirlygigs, and was well maintained.
> We saw a house made of stacked railroad ties, a weird trike, the Museum, and
> the Nike missile in town.
>
That missile isn't a Nike. It is the Athena, also known as the
"flying trashpile" within the business. A 4 stage pure research
missile that Atlantic Research porked together from the parts bin
that initially was used to test re-entry systems, but came to
be used pretty much for anything that it could loft into the air
from Green River down to White Sands proper.
If you missed the Crystal Geyser, check it out the next time
you go thru there. Two different onyx outcrops, one right down
at the waterline, the other on top of a modest hill up behind
the geyser. Plus as the geyser percolates, you can see the
big line of bubbles rising up pretty much clear across the
river.
And up in those cliffs behind the geyser are some of the nicest
imbedments of dinosaur bone near the area.
And every now and then along the reef ridge above Maggies Teat
rock formation [when you see it, you'll know...named after
the lady that owned the cafe next to Rays Tavern according to
local folklore] you'll find really really nice arrowheads.
Plus one of the largest deposits of pigeon blood agate, and
stuffed olive agate [a butte with an entire top made of the
stuff]. And around some of the old mines, lots of nice pretty
green [and radioactive] uranium salts crystals.
And if you want rugged country, head just slightly west and
turn toward Hanksville, then cut off just before the biiiig
wash and head to the left down past the old Pershing
area. Or head west on I-70 into the reefs, and cut off
about 40 miles out and head down into the canyons. Warning
that this is country that the Jeep pussies that hang out over
around Moab tend to avoid.