Re: Watch those parts weasles
 

"Outatime" <whoknows@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> Highcountry wrote:
>
> > It is more difficult each day to find decent parts. I have actually
> > been paying extra for AC parts for my GM vehicles just to avoid the
> > Chinese JUNK. It is a shame that not a single aftermarket parts
> > supplier will step up and supply a line of parts based on quality
> > instead of price.
>
> Same here. Lately, OEM parts are my best bet. Excellent quality and
> expensive. (sometimes you can get it cheaper off the 'Net, but often
> you'll get sent cheap, foreign junk disguised as OEM.)

What about "Mean Green" starters? ;^)

>
> Some places are better than others about this. AFAIC, all
> foreign-remanufactured stuff is useless junk. That "Gold Lifetime
> Warranty" is also nothing but hype, figuring that statistically, you'll
> never return for a replacement.

Almost all aftermarket parts are "hecho en México" or "fabrique au Canada".
I have a whole car, a Honda Civic, that is "fabrique au Canada". 90,000
miles so far and no problems.

>
> Worse, the printing on thermally-printed sales receipts is designed to
> fade and dissappear completely within 2 years, again rendering that
> warranty useless. Always take a photocopy of any thermally-printed
> warranty receipt.

Autozone they take your phone number and put it in the computer. All you
have to do is remember the various phone numbers you have used over the
years, and your lifetime warranty is good with them. Nobody is saying that
you can't scan or photocopy your receipts if you buy from another chain.

Earle

Re: Watch those parts weasles
 

Earle Horton wrote:

> What about "Mean Green" starters? ;^)

Don't know enough about them to comment.

> Almost all aftermarket parts are "hecho en México" or "fabrique au Canada".
> I have a whole car, a Honda Civic, that is "fabrique au Canada". 90,000
> miles so far and no problems.

Mexican and Canadian stuff usually isn't a problem; parts made in the US
are shipped there for assembly, then the resulting product is shipped
back. It sounds like a lot of work, but when you factor out
unionization problems, retirement/medical costs, high wages and high
taxes for doing business in the US, it comes out a lot cheaper. So long
as the design and material specs are OEM, it's not a bad deal.

I don't care for the argument that 'outsourcing' is bad; it helps
foreign economies thrive and it gives us lower prices, but when it comes
to asian-manufactured aftermarket junk, it isn't worth buying at any price.

> Autozone they take your phone number and put it in the computer. All you
> have to do is remember the various phone numbers you have used over the
> years, and your lifetime warranty is good with them.

It's good that AZ is customer-friendly, however most of the parts they
sell are junk.

Re: Watch those parts weasles
 

Earle Horton wrote:

> What about "Mean Green" starters? ;^)

Don't know enough about them to comment.

> Almost all aftermarket parts are "hecho en México" or "fabrique au Canada".
> I have a whole car, a Honda Civic, that is "fabrique au Canada". 90,000
> miles so far and no problems.

Mexican and Canadian stuff usually isn't a problem; parts made in the US
are shipped there for assembly, then the resulting product is shipped
back. It sounds like a lot of work, but when you factor out
unionization problems, retirement/medical costs, high wages and high
taxes for doing business in the US, it comes out a lot cheaper. So long
as the design and material specs are OEM, it's not a bad deal.

I don't care for the argument that 'outsourcing' is bad; it helps
foreign economies thrive and it gives us lower prices, but when it comes
to asian-manufactured aftermarket junk, it isn't worth buying at any price.

> Autozone they take your phone number and put it in the computer. All you
> have to do is remember the various phone numbers you have used over the
> years, and your lifetime warranty is good with them.

It's good that AZ is customer-friendly, however most of the parts they
sell are junk.

Re: Watch those parts weasles
 

Earle Horton wrote:

> What about "Mean Green" starters? ;^)

Don't know enough about them to comment.

> Almost all aftermarket parts are "hecho en México" or "fabrique au Canada".
> I have a whole car, a Honda Civic, that is "fabrique au Canada". 90,000
> miles so far and no problems.

Mexican and Canadian stuff usually isn't a problem; parts made in the US
are shipped there for assembly, then the resulting product is shipped
back. It sounds like a lot of work, but when you factor out
unionization problems, retirement/medical costs, high wages and high
taxes for doing business in the US, it comes out a lot cheaper. So long
as the design and material specs are OEM, it's not a bad deal.

I don't care for the argument that 'outsourcing' is bad; it helps
foreign economies thrive and it gives us lower prices, but when it comes
to asian-manufactured aftermarket junk, it isn't worth buying at any price.

> Autozone they take your phone number and put it in the computer. All you
> have to do is remember the various phone numbers you have used over the
> years, and your lifetime warranty is good with them.

It's good that AZ is customer-friendly, however most of the parts they
sell are junk.

Re: Watch those parts weasles
 

Earle Horton wrote:

> What about "Mean Green" starters? ;^)

Don't know enough about them to comment.

> Almost all aftermarket parts are "hecho en México" or "fabrique au Canada".
> I have a whole car, a Honda Civic, that is "fabrique au Canada". 90,000
> miles so far and no problems.

Mexican and Canadian stuff usually isn't a problem; parts made in the US
are shipped there for assembly, then the resulting product is shipped
back. It sounds like a lot of work, but when you factor out
unionization problems, retirement/medical costs, high wages and high
taxes for doing business in the US, it comes out a lot cheaper. So long
as the design and material specs are OEM, it's not a bad deal.

I don't care for the argument that 'outsourcing' is bad; it helps
foreign economies thrive and it gives us lower prices, but when it comes
to asian-manufactured aftermarket junk, it isn't worth buying at any price.

> Autozone they take your phone number and put it in the computer. All you
> have to do is remember the various phone numbers you have used over the
> years, and your lifetime warranty is good with them.

It's good that AZ is customer-friendly, however most of the parts they
sell are junk.

Re: Watch those parts weasles
 

Outatime wrote:
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>> What about "Mean Green" starters? ;^)
>
> Don't know enough about them to comment.
>
>> Almost all aftermarket parts are "hecho en México" or "fabrique au
>> Canada".
>> I have a whole car, a Honda Civic, that is "fabrique au Canada". 90,000
>> miles so far and no problems.
>
> Mexican and Canadian stuff usually isn't a problem; parts made in the US
> are shipped there for assembly, then the resulting product is shipped
> back. It sounds like a lot of work, but when you factor out
> unionization problems, retirement/medical costs, high wages and high
> taxes for doing business in the US, it comes out a lot cheaper. So long
> as the design and material specs are OEM, it's not a bad deal.
>
> I don't care for the argument that 'outsourcing' is bad; it helps
> foreign economies thrive and it gives us lower prices, but when it comes
> to asian-manufactured aftermarket junk, it isn't worth buying at any price.
>

More than 95% of all computer products are made in Asia, including
manufacturing and assembly. They produce quality when they are required
to do so. The problem is the companies who buy the crap they make and
shove it down the U.S. consumer's throat, and many of us eat it up like
candy. I dealt with a few Japanese manufacturers in a previous job where
we made fluid power components. Many of these were made for forklifts.
We sold to many U.S. companies as well as a few Japanese companies. The
companies with the strictest quality requirements were Nissan and
Toyota, hands down.

It is sad to see that this country's biggest franchise chains have
succumbed to buying the inferior products that they buy. The Asian
companies making this crap are laughing all the way to the bank while
they produce this crap to lower standards than they accept for their own
product requirements.

Chris

Re: Watch those parts weasles
 

Outatime wrote:
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>> What about "Mean Green" starters? ;^)
>
> Don't know enough about them to comment.
>
>> Almost all aftermarket parts are "hecho en México" or "fabrique au
>> Canada".
>> I have a whole car, a Honda Civic, that is "fabrique au Canada". 90,000
>> miles so far and no problems.
>
> Mexican and Canadian stuff usually isn't a problem; parts made in the US
> are shipped there for assembly, then the resulting product is shipped
> back. It sounds like a lot of work, but when you factor out
> unionization problems, retirement/medical costs, high wages and high
> taxes for doing business in the US, it comes out a lot cheaper. So long
> as the design and material specs are OEM, it's not a bad deal.
>
> I don't care for the argument that 'outsourcing' is bad; it helps
> foreign economies thrive and it gives us lower prices, but when it comes
> to asian-manufactured aftermarket junk, it isn't worth buying at any price.
>

More than 95% of all computer products are made in Asia, including
manufacturing and assembly. They produce quality when they are required
to do so. The problem is the companies who buy the crap they make and
shove it down the U.S. consumer's throat, and many of us eat it up like
candy. I dealt with a few Japanese manufacturers in a previous job where
we made fluid power components. Many of these were made for forklifts.
We sold to many U.S. companies as well as a few Japanese companies. The
companies with the strictest quality requirements were Nissan and
Toyota, hands down.

It is sad to see that this country's biggest franchise chains have
succumbed to buying the inferior products that they buy. The Asian
companies making this crap are laughing all the way to the bank while
they produce this crap to lower standards than they accept for their own
product requirements.

Chris

Re: Watch those parts weasles
 

Outatime wrote:
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>> What about "Mean Green" starters? ;^)
>
> Don't know enough about them to comment.
>
>> Almost all aftermarket parts are "hecho en México" or "fabrique au
>> Canada".
>> I have a whole car, a Honda Civic, that is "fabrique au Canada". 90,000
>> miles so far and no problems.
>
> Mexican and Canadian stuff usually isn't a problem; parts made in the US
> are shipped there for assembly, then the resulting product is shipped
> back. It sounds like a lot of work, but when you factor out
> unionization problems, retirement/medical costs, high wages and high
> taxes for doing business in the US, it comes out a lot cheaper. So long
> as the design and material specs are OEM, it's not a bad deal.
>
> I don't care for the argument that 'outsourcing' is bad; it helps
> foreign economies thrive and it gives us lower prices, but when it comes
> to asian-manufactured aftermarket junk, it isn't worth buying at any price.
>

More than 95% of all computer products are made in Asia, including
manufacturing and assembly. They produce quality when they are required
to do so. The problem is the companies who buy the crap they make and
shove it down the U.S. consumer's throat, and many of us eat it up like
candy. I dealt with a few Japanese manufacturers in a previous job where
we made fluid power components. Many of these were made for forklifts.
We sold to many U.S. companies as well as a few Japanese companies. The
companies with the strictest quality requirements were Nissan and
Toyota, hands down.

It is sad to see that this country's biggest franchise chains have
succumbed to buying the inferior products that they buy. The Asian
companies making this crap are laughing all the way to the bank while
they produce this crap to lower standards than they accept for their own
product requirements.

Chris

Re: Watch those parts weasles
 

Outatime wrote:
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>> What about "Mean Green" starters? ;^)
>
> Don't know enough about them to comment.
>
>> Almost all aftermarket parts are "hecho en México" or "fabrique au
>> Canada".
>> I have a whole car, a Honda Civic, that is "fabrique au Canada". 90,000
>> miles so far and no problems.
>
> Mexican and Canadian stuff usually isn't a problem; parts made in the US
> are shipped there for assembly, then the resulting product is shipped
> back. It sounds like a lot of work, but when you factor out
> unionization problems, retirement/medical costs, high wages and high
> taxes for doing business in the US, it comes out a lot cheaper. So long
> as the design and material specs are OEM, it's not a bad deal.
>
> I don't care for the argument that 'outsourcing' is bad; it helps
> foreign economies thrive and it gives us lower prices, but when it comes
> to asian-manufactured aftermarket junk, it isn't worth buying at any price.
>

More than 95% of all computer products are made in Asia, including
manufacturing and assembly. They produce quality when they are required
to do so. The problem is the companies who buy the crap they make and
shove it down the U.S. consumer's throat, and many of us eat it up like
candy. I dealt with a few Japanese manufacturers in a previous job where
we made fluid power components. Many of these were made for forklifts.
We sold to many U.S. companies as well as a few Japanese companies. The
companies with the strictest quality requirements were Nissan and
Toyota, hands down.

It is sad to see that this country's biggest franchise chains have
succumbed to buying the inferior products that they buy. The Asian
companies making this crap are laughing all the way to the bank while
they produce this crap to lower standards than they accept for their own
product requirements.

Chris

Re: Watch those parts weasles
 

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
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>
> It is sad to see that this country's biggest franchise chains have
> succumbed to buying the inferior products that they buy. The Asian
> companies making this crap are laughing all the way to the bank
> while they produce this crap to lower standards than they accept
> for their own product requirements.
>
Blame the consumer. People are getting what they want here.

Earle