Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
#11
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
Is your engine tired or do you just want more power? There are things
you can do to wake those engines up like a hotter cam, better
carburetor, ect.
You might also consider something like this...
http://www.cdpautomachine.com/ecatal...epengines.html
I love those big old tanks, good luck!
Jeff DeWitt
Dave Milne wrote:
> Hi Earle,
>
> Thanks for your thoughts. The engine is the AMC 360. My first thought
> was a crate 401, but I can't find any.
> Not too fussed about the fuel consumption, as I do less than 3K/year in it
> (just weekend pottering about). Transfer case is the NP229.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:44a89003$0$23786$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>
>>Dave,
>>
>>Your Wagoneer would have an AMC engine, with a specially modified Chrysler
>>Torqueflite 727, that sports an AMC bolt pattern, not a Chrysler bolt
>>pattern, on the engine end. This means that no Chrysler engine will bolt
>
> to
>
>>it. Now if you are good at disassembly of the 727, including reassembly
>
> so
>
>>that it still functions, you can replace the main housing with the
>
> Chrysler
>
>>variant. Then you could attach any of a number of excellent Chrysler V8s,
>>which are no doubt real common on your side of the Atlantic.
>>
>>Which engine do you have? If it is the AMC inline six, then you can bolt
>>any of the AMC V8s to it, assuming that you can obtain or fabricate engine
>>mounts, exhaust, various accessories and brackets, and a fuel system. If
>>you want to keep the LPG option, this can be a problem. If you keep the
>>current dual fuel setup, you will find that you have more low end torque,
>>but less top end power than you anticipated. A bigger engine will want
>
> more
>
>>air, and more fuel. The fly in the oatmeal, is that these engines will be
>>rarer east of the Atlantic, than they are here.
>>
>>An option that people have used here, is to use a transfer case adapter,
>
> to
>
>>put a Chevy truck Turbo Hydromatic 350 in front of the TC, and a Chevy 350
>>engine in front of that. This is an excellent option for power, and cheap
>>too. New engines go for about $3,000, the last time I looked, and new
>>transmissions are pretty cheap too. www.4wd.com has the transmission "all
>>set up" to bolt to the Dana 300 or NP231 transfer case. Which transfer
>
> case
>
>>do you have? Important information that.
>>
>>Way back in 1976, some of my coworkers hit on the idea of putting a Chevy
>>283 in a 1963 J10 pickup, an ancestor of your Wagoneer. The transplant
>
> was
>
>>successful, but it took a real long time. The main problem was that many
>
> of
>
>>the parts had to be ordered through the mail (no Internet then) and so
>
> there
>
>>was a lot of waiting. My experience with shipping Christmas gifts back
>
> from
>
>>Spain, was that it is (1) real expensive and (2) less than 100% reliable.
>>The fault seems to have been with the USPS, not Correos Espaņoles, but who
>>knows what they will do with your parts?
>>
>>You might want to get the Jeep Conversion Manual from the Advance Adapters
>>web site, http://advanceadapters.com. This explains which transmissions
>
> and
>
>>engines were used in each vehicle.
>>
>>Another option to consider is forced induction. A number of companies
>
> make
>
>>turbo- or super-charger kits for the 4.0 liter Jeep engine. One of these
>>should bolt right up to your 727, if you find a place to hang the
>
> crankshaft
>
>>position sensor.
>>
>>That's all I can think of, for now.
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>>news:BHNpg.94772$wl.43146@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>>
>>>So I need some more ...hummph ... power in the Wagoneer, as it only has
>>
>>144
>>
>>>hp which is about 50% of enough.
>>>Any recommendations ? Presumably the Mopar crate engines would bolt up
>>>straight to the Chrysler Torqueflite 727 ? Novak doesn't seem to have
>
> any
>
>>>adapters for the 727 - "if your transmission is not listed it is
>
> probably
>
>>>not worth converting to". I don't / won't take my Waggy off road as it
>
> is
>
>>an
>>
>>>old lady that deserves a little bit of respect :-)
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
you can do to wake those engines up like a hotter cam, better
carburetor, ect.
You might also consider something like this...
http://www.cdpautomachine.com/ecatal...epengines.html
I love those big old tanks, good luck!
Jeff DeWitt
Dave Milne wrote:
> Hi Earle,
>
> Thanks for your thoughts. The engine is the AMC 360. My first thought
> was a crate 401, but I can't find any.
> Not too fussed about the fuel consumption, as I do less than 3K/year in it
> (just weekend pottering about). Transfer case is the NP229.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:44a89003$0$23786$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>
>>Dave,
>>
>>Your Wagoneer would have an AMC engine, with a specially modified Chrysler
>>Torqueflite 727, that sports an AMC bolt pattern, not a Chrysler bolt
>>pattern, on the engine end. This means that no Chrysler engine will bolt
>
> to
>
>>it. Now if you are good at disassembly of the 727, including reassembly
>
> so
>
>>that it still functions, you can replace the main housing with the
>
> Chrysler
>
>>variant. Then you could attach any of a number of excellent Chrysler V8s,
>>which are no doubt real common on your side of the Atlantic.
>>
>>Which engine do you have? If it is the AMC inline six, then you can bolt
>>any of the AMC V8s to it, assuming that you can obtain or fabricate engine
>>mounts, exhaust, various accessories and brackets, and a fuel system. If
>>you want to keep the LPG option, this can be a problem. If you keep the
>>current dual fuel setup, you will find that you have more low end torque,
>>but less top end power than you anticipated. A bigger engine will want
>
> more
>
>>air, and more fuel. The fly in the oatmeal, is that these engines will be
>>rarer east of the Atlantic, than they are here.
>>
>>An option that people have used here, is to use a transfer case adapter,
>
> to
>
>>put a Chevy truck Turbo Hydromatic 350 in front of the TC, and a Chevy 350
>>engine in front of that. This is an excellent option for power, and cheap
>>too. New engines go for about $3,000, the last time I looked, and new
>>transmissions are pretty cheap too. www.4wd.com has the transmission "all
>>set up" to bolt to the Dana 300 or NP231 transfer case. Which transfer
>
> case
>
>>do you have? Important information that.
>>
>>Way back in 1976, some of my coworkers hit on the idea of putting a Chevy
>>283 in a 1963 J10 pickup, an ancestor of your Wagoneer. The transplant
>
> was
>
>>successful, but it took a real long time. The main problem was that many
>
> of
>
>>the parts had to be ordered through the mail (no Internet then) and so
>
> there
>
>>was a lot of waiting. My experience with shipping Christmas gifts back
>
> from
>
>>Spain, was that it is (1) real expensive and (2) less than 100% reliable.
>>The fault seems to have been with the USPS, not Correos Espaņoles, but who
>>knows what they will do with your parts?
>>
>>You might want to get the Jeep Conversion Manual from the Advance Adapters
>>web site, http://advanceadapters.com. This explains which transmissions
>
> and
>
>>engines were used in each vehicle.
>>
>>Another option to consider is forced induction. A number of companies
>
> make
>
>>turbo- or super-charger kits for the 4.0 liter Jeep engine. One of these
>>should bolt right up to your 727, if you find a place to hang the
>
> crankshaft
>
>>position sensor.
>>
>>That's all I can think of, for now.
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>>news:BHNpg.94772$wl.43146@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>>
>>>So I need some more ...hummph ... power in the Wagoneer, as it only has
>>
>>144
>>
>>>hp which is about 50% of enough.
>>>Any recommendations ? Presumably the Mopar crate engines would bolt up
>>>straight to the Chrysler Torqueflite 727 ? Novak doesn't seem to have
>
> any
>
>>>adapters for the 727 - "if your transmission is not listed it is
>
> probably
>
>>>not worth converting to". I don't / won't take my Waggy off road as it
>
> is
>
>>an
>>
>>>old lady that deserves a little bit of respect :-)
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
#12
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
Is your engine tired or do you just want more power? There are things
you can do to wake those engines up like a hotter cam, better
carburetor, ect.
You might also consider something like this...
http://www.cdpautomachine.com/ecatal...epengines.html
I love those big old tanks, good luck!
Jeff DeWitt
Dave Milne wrote:
> Hi Earle,
>
> Thanks for your thoughts. The engine is the AMC 360. My first thought
> was a crate 401, but I can't find any.
> Not too fussed about the fuel consumption, as I do less than 3K/year in it
> (just weekend pottering about). Transfer case is the NP229.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:44a89003$0$23786$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>
>>Dave,
>>
>>Your Wagoneer would have an AMC engine, with a specially modified Chrysler
>>Torqueflite 727, that sports an AMC bolt pattern, not a Chrysler bolt
>>pattern, on the engine end. This means that no Chrysler engine will bolt
>
> to
>
>>it. Now if you are good at disassembly of the 727, including reassembly
>
> so
>
>>that it still functions, you can replace the main housing with the
>
> Chrysler
>
>>variant. Then you could attach any of a number of excellent Chrysler V8s,
>>which are no doubt real common on your side of the Atlantic.
>>
>>Which engine do you have? If it is the AMC inline six, then you can bolt
>>any of the AMC V8s to it, assuming that you can obtain or fabricate engine
>>mounts, exhaust, various accessories and brackets, and a fuel system. If
>>you want to keep the LPG option, this can be a problem. If you keep the
>>current dual fuel setup, you will find that you have more low end torque,
>>but less top end power than you anticipated. A bigger engine will want
>
> more
>
>>air, and more fuel. The fly in the oatmeal, is that these engines will be
>>rarer east of the Atlantic, than they are here.
>>
>>An option that people have used here, is to use a transfer case adapter,
>
> to
>
>>put a Chevy truck Turbo Hydromatic 350 in front of the TC, and a Chevy 350
>>engine in front of that. This is an excellent option for power, and cheap
>>too. New engines go for about $3,000, the last time I looked, and new
>>transmissions are pretty cheap too. www.4wd.com has the transmission "all
>>set up" to bolt to the Dana 300 or NP231 transfer case. Which transfer
>
> case
>
>>do you have? Important information that.
>>
>>Way back in 1976, some of my coworkers hit on the idea of putting a Chevy
>>283 in a 1963 J10 pickup, an ancestor of your Wagoneer. The transplant
>
> was
>
>>successful, but it took a real long time. The main problem was that many
>
> of
>
>>the parts had to be ordered through the mail (no Internet then) and so
>
> there
>
>>was a lot of waiting. My experience with shipping Christmas gifts back
>
> from
>
>>Spain, was that it is (1) real expensive and (2) less than 100% reliable.
>>The fault seems to have been with the USPS, not Correos Espaņoles, but who
>>knows what they will do with your parts?
>>
>>You might want to get the Jeep Conversion Manual from the Advance Adapters
>>web site, http://advanceadapters.com. This explains which transmissions
>
> and
>
>>engines were used in each vehicle.
>>
>>Another option to consider is forced induction. A number of companies
>
> make
>
>>turbo- or super-charger kits for the 4.0 liter Jeep engine. One of these
>>should bolt right up to your 727, if you find a place to hang the
>
> crankshaft
>
>>position sensor.
>>
>>That's all I can think of, for now.
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>>news:BHNpg.94772$wl.43146@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>>
>>>So I need some more ...hummph ... power in the Wagoneer, as it only has
>>
>>144
>>
>>>hp which is about 50% of enough.
>>>Any recommendations ? Presumably the Mopar crate engines would bolt up
>>>straight to the Chrysler Torqueflite 727 ? Novak doesn't seem to have
>
> any
>
>>>adapters for the 727 - "if your transmission is not listed it is
>
> probably
>
>>>not worth converting to". I don't / won't take my Waggy off road as it
>
> is
>
>>an
>>
>>>old lady that deserves a little bit of respect :-)
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
you can do to wake those engines up like a hotter cam, better
carburetor, ect.
You might also consider something like this...
http://www.cdpautomachine.com/ecatal...epengines.html
I love those big old tanks, good luck!
Jeff DeWitt
Dave Milne wrote:
> Hi Earle,
>
> Thanks for your thoughts. The engine is the AMC 360. My first thought
> was a crate 401, but I can't find any.
> Not too fussed about the fuel consumption, as I do less than 3K/year in it
> (just weekend pottering about). Transfer case is the NP229.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:44a89003$0$23786$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>
>>Dave,
>>
>>Your Wagoneer would have an AMC engine, with a specially modified Chrysler
>>Torqueflite 727, that sports an AMC bolt pattern, not a Chrysler bolt
>>pattern, on the engine end. This means that no Chrysler engine will bolt
>
> to
>
>>it. Now if you are good at disassembly of the 727, including reassembly
>
> so
>
>>that it still functions, you can replace the main housing with the
>
> Chrysler
>
>>variant. Then you could attach any of a number of excellent Chrysler V8s,
>>which are no doubt real common on your side of the Atlantic.
>>
>>Which engine do you have? If it is the AMC inline six, then you can bolt
>>any of the AMC V8s to it, assuming that you can obtain or fabricate engine
>>mounts, exhaust, various accessories and brackets, and a fuel system. If
>>you want to keep the LPG option, this can be a problem. If you keep the
>>current dual fuel setup, you will find that you have more low end torque,
>>but less top end power than you anticipated. A bigger engine will want
>
> more
>
>>air, and more fuel. The fly in the oatmeal, is that these engines will be
>>rarer east of the Atlantic, than they are here.
>>
>>An option that people have used here, is to use a transfer case adapter,
>
> to
>
>>put a Chevy truck Turbo Hydromatic 350 in front of the TC, and a Chevy 350
>>engine in front of that. This is an excellent option for power, and cheap
>>too. New engines go for about $3,000, the last time I looked, and new
>>transmissions are pretty cheap too. www.4wd.com has the transmission "all
>>set up" to bolt to the Dana 300 or NP231 transfer case. Which transfer
>
> case
>
>>do you have? Important information that.
>>
>>Way back in 1976, some of my coworkers hit on the idea of putting a Chevy
>>283 in a 1963 J10 pickup, an ancestor of your Wagoneer. The transplant
>
> was
>
>>successful, but it took a real long time. The main problem was that many
>
> of
>
>>the parts had to be ordered through the mail (no Internet then) and so
>
> there
>
>>was a lot of waiting. My experience with shipping Christmas gifts back
>
> from
>
>>Spain, was that it is (1) real expensive and (2) less than 100% reliable.
>>The fault seems to have been with the USPS, not Correos Espaņoles, but who
>>knows what they will do with your parts?
>>
>>You might want to get the Jeep Conversion Manual from the Advance Adapters
>>web site, http://advanceadapters.com. This explains which transmissions
>
> and
>
>>engines were used in each vehicle.
>>
>>Another option to consider is forced induction. A number of companies
>
> make
>
>>turbo- or super-charger kits for the 4.0 liter Jeep engine. One of these
>>should bolt right up to your 727, if you find a place to hang the
>
> crankshaft
>
>>position sensor.
>>
>>That's all I can think of, for now.
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>>news:BHNpg.94772$wl.43146@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>>
>>>So I need some more ...hummph ... power in the Wagoneer, as it only has
>>
>>144
>>
>>>hp which is about 50% of enough.
>>>Any recommendations ? Presumably the Mopar crate engines would bolt up
>>>straight to the Chrysler Torqueflite 727 ? Novak doesn't seem to have
>
> any
>
>>>adapters for the 727 - "if your transmission is not listed it is
>
> probably
>
>>>not worth converting to". I don't / won't take my Waggy off road as it
>
> is
>
>>an
>>
>>>old lady that deserves a little bit of respect :-)
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
#13
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
Is your engine tired or do you just want more power? There are things
you can do to wake those engines up like a hotter cam, better
carburetor, ect.
You might also consider something like this...
http://www.cdpautomachine.com/ecatal...epengines.html
I love those big old tanks, good luck!
Jeff DeWitt
Dave Milne wrote:
> Hi Earle,
>
> Thanks for your thoughts. The engine is the AMC 360. My first thought
> was a crate 401, but I can't find any.
> Not too fussed about the fuel consumption, as I do less than 3K/year in it
> (just weekend pottering about). Transfer case is the NP229.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:44a89003$0$23786$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>
>>Dave,
>>
>>Your Wagoneer would have an AMC engine, with a specially modified Chrysler
>>Torqueflite 727, that sports an AMC bolt pattern, not a Chrysler bolt
>>pattern, on the engine end. This means that no Chrysler engine will bolt
>
> to
>
>>it. Now if you are good at disassembly of the 727, including reassembly
>
> so
>
>>that it still functions, you can replace the main housing with the
>
> Chrysler
>
>>variant. Then you could attach any of a number of excellent Chrysler V8s,
>>which are no doubt real common on your side of the Atlantic.
>>
>>Which engine do you have? If it is the AMC inline six, then you can bolt
>>any of the AMC V8s to it, assuming that you can obtain or fabricate engine
>>mounts, exhaust, various accessories and brackets, and a fuel system. If
>>you want to keep the LPG option, this can be a problem. If you keep the
>>current dual fuel setup, you will find that you have more low end torque,
>>but less top end power than you anticipated. A bigger engine will want
>
> more
>
>>air, and more fuel. The fly in the oatmeal, is that these engines will be
>>rarer east of the Atlantic, than they are here.
>>
>>An option that people have used here, is to use a transfer case adapter,
>
> to
>
>>put a Chevy truck Turbo Hydromatic 350 in front of the TC, and a Chevy 350
>>engine in front of that. This is an excellent option for power, and cheap
>>too. New engines go for about $3,000, the last time I looked, and new
>>transmissions are pretty cheap too. www.4wd.com has the transmission "all
>>set up" to bolt to the Dana 300 or NP231 transfer case. Which transfer
>
> case
>
>>do you have? Important information that.
>>
>>Way back in 1976, some of my coworkers hit on the idea of putting a Chevy
>>283 in a 1963 J10 pickup, an ancestor of your Wagoneer. The transplant
>
> was
>
>>successful, but it took a real long time. The main problem was that many
>
> of
>
>>the parts had to be ordered through the mail (no Internet then) and so
>
> there
>
>>was a lot of waiting. My experience with shipping Christmas gifts back
>
> from
>
>>Spain, was that it is (1) real expensive and (2) less than 100% reliable.
>>The fault seems to have been with the USPS, not Correos Espaņoles, but who
>>knows what they will do with your parts?
>>
>>You might want to get the Jeep Conversion Manual from the Advance Adapters
>>web site, http://advanceadapters.com. This explains which transmissions
>
> and
>
>>engines were used in each vehicle.
>>
>>Another option to consider is forced induction. A number of companies
>
> make
>
>>turbo- or super-charger kits for the 4.0 liter Jeep engine. One of these
>>should bolt right up to your 727, if you find a place to hang the
>
> crankshaft
>
>>position sensor.
>>
>>That's all I can think of, for now.
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>>news:BHNpg.94772$wl.43146@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>>
>>>So I need some more ...hummph ... power in the Wagoneer, as it only has
>>
>>144
>>
>>>hp which is about 50% of enough.
>>>Any recommendations ? Presumably the Mopar crate engines would bolt up
>>>straight to the Chrysler Torqueflite 727 ? Novak doesn't seem to have
>
> any
>
>>>adapters for the 727 - "if your transmission is not listed it is
>
> probably
>
>>>not worth converting to". I don't / won't take my Waggy off road as it
>
> is
>
>>an
>>
>>>old lady that deserves a little bit of respect :-)
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
you can do to wake those engines up like a hotter cam, better
carburetor, ect.
You might also consider something like this...
http://www.cdpautomachine.com/ecatal...epengines.html
I love those big old tanks, good luck!
Jeff DeWitt
Dave Milne wrote:
> Hi Earle,
>
> Thanks for your thoughts. The engine is the AMC 360. My first thought
> was a crate 401, but I can't find any.
> Not too fussed about the fuel consumption, as I do less than 3K/year in it
> (just weekend pottering about). Transfer case is the NP229.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:44a89003$0$23786$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>
>>Dave,
>>
>>Your Wagoneer would have an AMC engine, with a specially modified Chrysler
>>Torqueflite 727, that sports an AMC bolt pattern, not a Chrysler bolt
>>pattern, on the engine end. This means that no Chrysler engine will bolt
>
> to
>
>>it. Now if you are good at disassembly of the 727, including reassembly
>
> so
>
>>that it still functions, you can replace the main housing with the
>
> Chrysler
>
>>variant. Then you could attach any of a number of excellent Chrysler V8s,
>>which are no doubt real common on your side of the Atlantic.
>>
>>Which engine do you have? If it is the AMC inline six, then you can bolt
>>any of the AMC V8s to it, assuming that you can obtain or fabricate engine
>>mounts, exhaust, various accessories and brackets, and a fuel system. If
>>you want to keep the LPG option, this can be a problem. If you keep the
>>current dual fuel setup, you will find that you have more low end torque,
>>but less top end power than you anticipated. A bigger engine will want
>
> more
>
>>air, and more fuel. The fly in the oatmeal, is that these engines will be
>>rarer east of the Atlantic, than they are here.
>>
>>An option that people have used here, is to use a transfer case adapter,
>
> to
>
>>put a Chevy truck Turbo Hydromatic 350 in front of the TC, and a Chevy 350
>>engine in front of that. This is an excellent option for power, and cheap
>>too. New engines go for about $3,000, the last time I looked, and new
>>transmissions are pretty cheap too. www.4wd.com has the transmission "all
>>set up" to bolt to the Dana 300 or NP231 transfer case. Which transfer
>
> case
>
>>do you have? Important information that.
>>
>>Way back in 1976, some of my coworkers hit on the idea of putting a Chevy
>>283 in a 1963 J10 pickup, an ancestor of your Wagoneer. The transplant
>
> was
>
>>successful, but it took a real long time. The main problem was that many
>
> of
>
>>the parts had to be ordered through the mail (no Internet then) and so
>
> there
>
>>was a lot of waiting. My experience with shipping Christmas gifts back
>
> from
>
>>Spain, was that it is (1) real expensive and (2) less than 100% reliable.
>>The fault seems to have been with the USPS, not Correos Espaņoles, but who
>>knows what they will do with your parts?
>>
>>You might want to get the Jeep Conversion Manual from the Advance Adapters
>>web site, http://advanceadapters.com. This explains which transmissions
>
> and
>
>>engines were used in each vehicle.
>>
>>Another option to consider is forced induction. A number of companies
>
> make
>
>>turbo- or super-charger kits for the 4.0 liter Jeep engine. One of these
>>should bolt right up to your 727, if you find a place to hang the
>
> crankshaft
>
>>position sensor.
>>
>>That's all I can think of, for now.
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>>news:BHNpg.94772$wl.43146@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>>
>>>So I need some more ...hummph ... power in the Wagoneer, as it only has
>>
>>144
>>
>>>hp which is about 50% of enough.
>>>Any recommendations ? Presumably the Mopar crate engines would bolt up
>>>straight to the Chrysler Torqueflite 727 ? Novak doesn't seem to have
>
> any
>
>>>adapters for the 727 - "if your transmission is not listed it is
>
> probably
>
>>>not worth converting to". I don't / won't take my Waggy off road as it
>
> is
>
>>an
>>
>>>old lady that deserves a little bit of respect :-)
>>>
>>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
#14
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
In the UK you have access to the current generation of common rail
diesels, including the V6 in Jaguars and the one in Mercedes. And, fuel
isn't getting cheaper.....not unless the insane plans of the insane
Free World Leader actually work in the Middle East, what are the
chances of that you think???
diesels, including the V6 in Jaguars and the one in Mercedes. And, fuel
isn't getting cheaper.....not unless the insane plans of the insane
Free World Leader actually work in the Middle East, what are the
chances of that you think???
#15
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
In the UK you have access to the current generation of common rail
diesels, including the V6 in Jaguars and the one in Mercedes. And, fuel
isn't getting cheaper.....not unless the insane plans of the insane
Free World Leader actually work in the Middle East, what are the
chances of that you think???
diesels, including the V6 in Jaguars and the one in Mercedes. And, fuel
isn't getting cheaper.....not unless the insane plans of the insane
Free World Leader actually work in the Middle East, what are the
chances of that you think???
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
In the UK you have access to the current generation of common rail
diesels, including the V6 in Jaguars and the one in Mercedes. And, fuel
isn't getting cheaper.....not unless the insane plans of the insane
Free World Leader actually work in the Middle East, what are the
chances of that you think???
diesels, including the V6 in Jaguars and the one in Mercedes. And, fuel
isn't getting cheaper.....not unless the insane plans of the insane
Free World Leader actually work in the Middle East, what are the
chances of that you think???
#17
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Posts: n/a
Re: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
http://www.cdpautomachine.com/engine...longblock.html
Shipping is going to be quite high.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:52gqg.95656$wl.11195@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Hi Earle,
>
> Thanks for your thoughts. The engine is the AMC 360. My first thought
> was a crate 401, but I can't find any.
> Not too fussed about the fuel consumption, as I do less than 3K/year in it
> (just weekend pottering about). Transfer case is the NP229.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:44a89003$0$23786$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > Dave,
> >
> > Your Wagoneer would have an AMC engine, with a specially modified
Chrysler
> > Torqueflite 727, that sports an AMC bolt pattern, not a Chrysler bolt
> > pattern, on the engine end. This means that no Chrysler engine will
bolt
> to
> > it. Now if you are good at disassembly of the 727, including reassembly
> so
> > that it still functions, you can replace the main housing with the
> Chrysler
> > variant. Then you could attach any of a number of excellent Chrysler
V8s,
> > which are no doubt real common on your side of the Atlantic.
> >
> > Which engine do you have? If it is the AMC inline six, then you can
bolt
> > any of the AMC V8s to it, assuming that you can obtain or fabricate
engine
> > mounts, exhaust, various accessories and brackets, and a fuel system.
If
> > you want to keep the LPG option, this can be a problem. If you keep the
> > current dual fuel setup, you will find that you have more low end
torque,
> > but less top end power than you anticipated. A bigger engine will want
> more
> > air, and more fuel. The fly in the oatmeal, is that these engines will
be
> > rarer east of the Atlantic, than they are here.
> >
> > An option that people have used here, is to use a transfer case adapter,
> to
> > put a Chevy truck Turbo Hydromatic 350 in front of the TC, and a Chevy
350
> > engine in front of that. This is an excellent option for power, and
cheap
> > too. New engines go for about $3,000, the last time I looked, and new
> > transmissions are pretty cheap too. www.4wd.com has the transmission
"all
> > set up" to bolt to the Dana 300 or NP231 transfer case. Which transfer
> case
> > do you have? Important information that.
> >
> > Way back in 1976, some of my coworkers hit on the idea of putting a
Chevy
> > 283 in a 1963 J10 pickup, an ancestor of your Wagoneer. The transplant
> was
> > successful, but it took a real long time. The main problem was that
many
> of
> > the parts had to be ordered through the mail (no Internet then) and so
> there
> > was a lot of waiting. My experience with shipping Christmas gifts back
> from
> > Spain, was that it is (1) real expensive and (2) less than 100%
reliable.
> > The fault seems to have been with the USPS, not Correos Espaņoles, but
who
> > knows what they will do with your parts?
> >
> > You might want to get the Jeep Conversion Manual from the Advance
Adapters
> > web site, http://advanceadapters.com. This explains which transmissions
> and
> > engines were used in each vehicle.
> >
> > Another option to consider is forced induction. A number of companies
> make
> > turbo- or super-charger kits for the 4.0 liter Jeep engine. One of
these
> > should bolt right up to your 727, if you find a place to hang the
> crankshaft
> > position sensor.
> >
> > That's all I can think of, for now.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:BHNpg.94772$wl.43146@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > > So I need some more ...hummph ... power in the Wagoneer, as it only
has
> > 144
> > > hp which is about 50% of enough.
> > > Any recommendations ? Presumably the Mopar crate engines would bolt up
> > > straight to the Chrysler Torqueflite 727 ? Novak doesn't seem to have
> any
> > > adapters for the 727 - "if your transmission is not listed it is
> probably
> > > not worth converting to". I don't / won't take my Waggy off road as it
> is
> > an
> > > old lady that deserves a little bit of respect :-)
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Shipping is going to be quite high.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:52gqg.95656$wl.11195@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Hi Earle,
>
> Thanks for your thoughts. The engine is the AMC 360. My first thought
> was a crate 401, but I can't find any.
> Not too fussed about the fuel consumption, as I do less than 3K/year in it
> (just weekend pottering about). Transfer case is the NP229.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:44a89003$0$23786$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > Dave,
> >
> > Your Wagoneer would have an AMC engine, with a specially modified
Chrysler
> > Torqueflite 727, that sports an AMC bolt pattern, not a Chrysler bolt
> > pattern, on the engine end. This means that no Chrysler engine will
bolt
> to
> > it. Now if you are good at disassembly of the 727, including reassembly
> so
> > that it still functions, you can replace the main housing with the
> Chrysler
> > variant. Then you could attach any of a number of excellent Chrysler
V8s,
> > which are no doubt real common on your side of the Atlantic.
> >
> > Which engine do you have? If it is the AMC inline six, then you can
bolt
> > any of the AMC V8s to it, assuming that you can obtain or fabricate
engine
> > mounts, exhaust, various accessories and brackets, and a fuel system.
If
> > you want to keep the LPG option, this can be a problem. If you keep the
> > current dual fuel setup, you will find that you have more low end
torque,
> > but less top end power than you anticipated. A bigger engine will want
> more
> > air, and more fuel. The fly in the oatmeal, is that these engines will
be
> > rarer east of the Atlantic, than they are here.
> >
> > An option that people have used here, is to use a transfer case adapter,
> to
> > put a Chevy truck Turbo Hydromatic 350 in front of the TC, and a Chevy
350
> > engine in front of that. This is an excellent option for power, and
cheap
> > too. New engines go for about $3,000, the last time I looked, and new
> > transmissions are pretty cheap too. www.4wd.com has the transmission
"all
> > set up" to bolt to the Dana 300 or NP231 transfer case. Which transfer
> case
> > do you have? Important information that.
> >
> > Way back in 1976, some of my coworkers hit on the idea of putting a
Chevy
> > 283 in a 1963 J10 pickup, an ancestor of your Wagoneer. The transplant
> was
> > successful, but it took a real long time. The main problem was that
many
> of
> > the parts had to be ordered through the mail (no Internet then) and so
> there
> > was a lot of waiting. My experience with shipping Christmas gifts back
> from
> > Spain, was that it is (1) real expensive and (2) less than 100%
reliable.
> > The fault seems to have been with the USPS, not Correos Espaņoles, but
who
> > knows what they will do with your parts?
> >
> > You might want to get the Jeep Conversion Manual from the Advance
Adapters
> > web site, http://advanceadapters.com. This explains which transmissions
> and
> > engines were used in each vehicle.
> >
> > Another option to consider is forced induction. A number of companies
> make
> > turbo- or super-charger kits for the 4.0 liter Jeep engine. One of
these
> > should bolt right up to your 727, if you find a place to hang the
> crankshaft
> > position sensor.
> >
> > That's all I can think of, for now.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:BHNpg.94772$wl.43146@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > > So I need some more ...hummph ... power in the Wagoneer, as it only
has
> > 144
> > > hp which is about 50% of enough.
> > > Any recommendations ? Presumably the Mopar crate engines would bolt up
> > > straight to the Chrysler Torqueflite 727 ? Novak doesn't seem to have
> any
> > > adapters for the 727 - "if your transmission is not listed it is
> probably
> > > not worth converting to". I don't / won't take my Waggy off road as it
> is
> > an
> > > old lady that deserves a little bit of respect :-)
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#18
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
http://www.cdpautomachine.com/engine...longblock.html
Shipping is going to be quite high.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:52gqg.95656$wl.11195@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Hi Earle,
>
> Thanks for your thoughts. The engine is the AMC 360. My first thought
> was a crate 401, but I can't find any.
> Not too fussed about the fuel consumption, as I do less than 3K/year in it
> (just weekend pottering about). Transfer case is the NP229.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:44a89003$0$23786$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > Dave,
> >
> > Your Wagoneer would have an AMC engine, with a specially modified
Chrysler
> > Torqueflite 727, that sports an AMC bolt pattern, not a Chrysler bolt
> > pattern, on the engine end. This means that no Chrysler engine will
bolt
> to
> > it. Now if you are good at disassembly of the 727, including reassembly
> so
> > that it still functions, you can replace the main housing with the
> Chrysler
> > variant. Then you could attach any of a number of excellent Chrysler
V8s,
> > which are no doubt real common on your side of the Atlantic.
> >
> > Which engine do you have? If it is the AMC inline six, then you can
bolt
> > any of the AMC V8s to it, assuming that you can obtain or fabricate
engine
> > mounts, exhaust, various accessories and brackets, and a fuel system.
If
> > you want to keep the LPG option, this can be a problem. If you keep the
> > current dual fuel setup, you will find that you have more low end
torque,
> > but less top end power than you anticipated. A bigger engine will want
> more
> > air, and more fuel. The fly in the oatmeal, is that these engines will
be
> > rarer east of the Atlantic, than they are here.
> >
> > An option that people have used here, is to use a transfer case adapter,
> to
> > put a Chevy truck Turbo Hydromatic 350 in front of the TC, and a Chevy
350
> > engine in front of that. This is an excellent option for power, and
cheap
> > too. New engines go for about $3,000, the last time I looked, and new
> > transmissions are pretty cheap too. www.4wd.com has the transmission
"all
> > set up" to bolt to the Dana 300 or NP231 transfer case. Which transfer
> case
> > do you have? Important information that.
> >
> > Way back in 1976, some of my coworkers hit on the idea of putting a
Chevy
> > 283 in a 1963 J10 pickup, an ancestor of your Wagoneer. The transplant
> was
> > successful, but it took a real long time. The main problem was that
many
> of
> > the parts had to be ordered through the mail (no Internet then) and so
> there
> > was a lot of waiting. My experience with shipping Christmas gifts back
> from
> > Spain, was that it is (1) real expensive and (2) less than 100%
reliable.
> > The fault seems to have been with the USPS, not Correos Espaņoles, but
who
> > knows what they will do with your parts?
> >
> > You might want to get the Jeep Conversion Manual from the Advance
Adapters
> > web site, http://advanceadapters.com. This explains which transmissions
> and
> > engines were used in each vehicle.
> >
> > Another option to consider is forced induction. A number of companies
> make
> > turbo- or super-charger kits for the 4.0 liter Jeep engine. One of
these
> > should bolt right up to your 727, if you find a place to hang the
> crankshaft
> > position sensor.
> >
> > That's all I can think of, for now.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:BHNpg.94772$wl.43146@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > > So I need some more ...hummph ... power in the Wagoneer, as it only
has
> > 144
> > > hp which is about 50% of enough.
> > > Any recommendations ? Presumably the Mopar crate engines would bolt up
> > > straight to the Chrysler Torqueflite 727 ? Novak doesn't seem to have
> any
> > > adapters for the 727 - "if your transmission is not listed it is
> probably
> > > not worth converting to". I don't / won't take my Waggy off road as it
> is
> > an
> > > old lady that deserves a little bit of respect :-)
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Shipping is going to be quite high.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:52gqg.95656$wl.11195@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Hi Earle,
>
> Thanks for your thoughts. The engine is the AMC 360. My first thought
> was a crate 401, but I can't find any.
> Not too fussed about the fuel consumption, as I do less than 3K/year in it
> (just weekend pottering about). Transfer case is the NP229.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:44a89003$0$23786$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > Dave,
> >
> > Your Wagoneer would have an AMC engine, with a specially modified
Chrysler
> > Torqueflite 727, that sports an AMC bolt pattern, not a Chrysler bolt
> > pattern, on the engine end. This means that no Chrysler engine will
bolt
> to
> > it. Now if you are good at disassembly of the 727, including reassembly
> so
> > that it still functions, you can replace the main housing with the
> Chrysler
> > variant. Then you could attach any of a number of excellent Chrysler
V8s,
> > which are no doubt real common on your side of the Atlantic.
> >
> > Which engine do you have? If it is the AMC inline six, then you can
bolt
> > any of the AMC V8s to it, assuming that you can obtain or fabricate
engine
> > mounts, exhaust, various accessories and brackets, and a fuel system.
If
> > you want to keep the LPG option, this can be a problem. If you keep the
> > current dual fuel setup, you will find that you have more low end
torque,
> > but less top end power than you anticipated. A bigger engine will want
> more
> > air, and more fuel. The fly in the oatmeal, is that these engines will
be
> > rarer east of the Atlantic, than they are here.
> >
> > An option that people have used here, is to use a transfer case adapter,
> to
> > put a Chevy truck Turbo Hydromatic 350 in front of the TC, and a Chevy
350
> > engine in front of that. This is an excellent option for power, and
cheap
> > too. New engines go for about $3,000, the last time I looked, and new
> > transmissions are pretty cheap too. www.4wd.com has the transmission
"all
> > set up" to bolt to the Dana 300 or NP231 transfer case. Which transfer
> case
> > do you have? Important information that.
> >
> > Way back in 1976, some of my coworkers hit on the idea of putting a
Chevy
> > 283 in a 1963 J10 pickup, an ancestor of your Wagoneer. The transplant
> was
> > successful, but it took a real long time. The main problem was that
many
> of
> > the parts had to be ordered through the mail (no Internet then) and so
> there
> > was a lot of waiting. My experience with shipping Christmas gifts back
> from
> > Spain, was that it is (1) real expensive and (2) less than 100%
reliable.
> > The fault seems to have been with the USPS, not Correos Espaņoles, but
who
> > knows what they will do with your parts?
> >
> > You might want to get the Jeep Conversion Manual from the Advance
Adapters
> > web site, http://advanceadapters.com. This explains which transmissions
> and
> > engines were used in each vehicle.
> >
> > Another option to consider is forced induction. A number of companies
> make
> > turbo- or super-charger kits for the 4.0 liter Jeep engine. One of
these
> > should bolt right up to your 727, if you find a place to hang the
> crankshaft
> > position sensor.
> >
> > That's all I can think of, for now.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:BHNpg.94772$wl.43146@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > > So I need some more ...hummph ... power in the Wagoneer, as it only
has
> > 144
> > > hp which is about 50% of enough.
> > > Any recommendations ? Presumably the Mopar crate engines would bolt up
> > > straight to the Chrysler Torqueflite 727 ? Novak doesn't seem to have
> any
> > > adapters for the 727 - "if your transmission is not listed it is
> probably
> > > not worth converting to". I don't / won't take my Waggy off road as it
> is
> > an
> > > old lady that deserves a little bit of respect :-)
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
http://www.cdpautomachine.com/engine...longblock.html
Shipping is going to be quite high.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:52gqg.95656$wl.11195@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Hi Earle,
>
> Thanks for your thoughts. The engine is the AMC 360. My first thought
> was a crate 401, but I can't find any.
> Not too fussed about the fuel consumption, as I do less than 3K/year in it
> (just weekend pottering about). Transfer case is the NP229.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:44a89003$0$23786$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > Dave,
> >
> > Your Wagoneer would have an AMC engine, with a specially modified
Chrysler
> > Torqueflite 727, that sports an AMC bolt pattern, not a Chrysler bolt
> > pattern, on the engine end. This means that no Chrysler engine will
bolt
> to
> > it. Now if you are good at disassembly of the 727, including reassembly
> so
> > that it still functions, you can replace the main housing with the
> Chrysler
> > variant. Then you could attach any of a number of excellent Chrysler
V8s,
> > which are no doubt real common on your side of the Atlantic.
> >
> > Which engine do you have? If it is the AMC inline six, then you can
bolt
> > any of the AMC V8s to it, assuming that you can obtain or fabricate
engine
> > mounts, exhaust, various accessories and brackets, and a fuel system.
If
> > you want to keep the LPG option, this can be a problem. If you keep the
> > current dual fuel setup, you will find that you have more low end
torque,
> > but less top end power than you anticipated. A bigger engine will want
> more
> > air, and more fuel. The fly in the oatmeal, is that these engines will
be
> > rarer east of the Atlantic, than they are here.
> >
> > An option that people have used here, is to use a transfer case adapter,
> to
> > put a Chevy truck Turbo Hydromatic 350 in front of the TC, and a Chevy
350
> > engine in front of that. This is an excellent option for power, and
cheap
> > too. New engines go for about $3,000, the last time I looked, and new
> > transmissions are pretty cheap too. www.4wd.com has the transmission
"all
> > set up" to bolt to the Dana 300 or NP231 transfer case. Which transfer
> case
> > do you have? Important information that.
> >
> > Way back in 1976, some of my coworkers hit on the idea of putting a
Chevy
> > 283 in a 1963 J10 pickup, an ancestor of your Wagoneer. The transplant
> was
> > successful, but it took a real long time. The main problem was that
many
> of
> > the parts had to be ordered through the mail (no Internet then) and so
> there
> > was a lot of waiting. My experience with shipping Christmas gifts back
> from
> > Spain, was that it is (1) real expensive and (2) less than 100%
reliable.
> > The fault seems to have been with the USPS, not Correos Espaņoles, but
who
> > knows what they will do with your parts?
> >
> > You might want to get the Jeep Conversion Manual from the Advance
Adapters
> > web site, http://advanceadapters.com. This explains which transmissions
> and
> > engines were used in each vehicle.
> >
> > Another option to consider is forced induction. A number of companies
> make
> > turbo- or super-charger kits for the 4.0 liter Jeep engine. One of
these
> > should bolt right up to your 727, if you find a place to hang the
> crankshaft
> > position sensor.
> >
> > That's all I can think of, for now.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:BHNpg.94772$wl.43146@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > > So I need some more ...hummph ... power in the Wagoneer, as it only
has
> > 144
> > > hp which is about 50% of enough.
> > > Any recommendations ? Presumably the Mopar crate engines would bolt up
> > > straight to the Chrysler Torqueflite 727 ? Novak doesn't seem to have
> any
> > > adapters for the 727 - "if your transmission is not listed it is
> probably
> > > not worth converting to". I don't / won't take my Waggy off road as it
> is
> > an
> > > old lady that deserves a little bit of respect :-)
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Shipping is going to be quite high.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:52gqg.95656$wl.11195@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Hi Earle,
>
> Thanks for your thoughts. The engine is the AMC 360. My first thought
> was a crate 401, but I can't find any.
> Not too fussed about the fuel consumption, as I do less than 3K/year in it
> (just weekend pottering about). Transfer case is the NP229.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:44a89003$0$23786$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > Dave,
> >
> > Your Wagoneer would have an AMC engine, with a specially modified
Chrysler
> > Torqueflite 727, that sports an AMC bolt pattern, not a Chrysler bolt
> > pattern, on the engine end. This means that no Chrysler engine will
bolt
> to
> > it. Now if you are good at disassembly of the 727, including reassembly
> so
> > that it still functions, you can replace the main housing with the
> Chrysler
> > variant. Then you could attach any of a number of excellent Chrysler
V8s,
> > which are no doubt real common on your side of the Atlantic.
> >
> > Which engine do you have? If it is the AMC inline six, then you can
bolt
> > any of the AMC V8s to it, assuming that you can obtain or fabricate
engine
> > mounts, exhaust, various accessories and brackets, and a fuel system.
If
> > you want to keep the LPG option, this can be a problem. If you keep the
> > current dual fuel setup, you will find that you have more low end
torque,
> > but less top end power than you anticipated. A bigger engine will want
> more
> > air, and more fuel. The fly in the oatmeal, is that these engines will
be
> > rarer east of the Atlantic, than they are here.
> >
> > An option that people have used here, is to use a transfer case adapter,
> to
> > put a Chevy truck Turbo Hydromatic 350 in front of the TC, and a Chevy
350
> > engine in front of that. This is an excellent option for power, and
cheap
> > too. New engines go for about $3,000, the last time I looked, and new
> > transmissions are pretty cheap too. www.4wd.com has the transmission
"all
> > set up" to bolt to the Dana 300 or NP231 transfer case. Which transfer
> case
> > do you have? Important information that.
> >
> > Way back in 1976, some of my coworkers hit on the idea of putting a
Chevy
> > 283 in a 1963 J10 pickup, an ancestor of your Wagoneer. The transplant
> was
> > successful, but it took a real long time. The main problem was that
many
> of
> > the parts had to be ordered through the mail (no Internet then) and so
> there
> > was a lot of waiting. My experience with shipping Christmas gifts back
> from
> > Spain, was that it is (1) real expensive and (2) less than 100%
reliable.
> > The fault seems to have been with the USPS, not Correos Espaņoles, but
who
> > knows what they will do with your parts?
> >
> > You might want to get the Jeep Conversion Manual from the Advance
Adapters
> > web site, http://advanceadapters.com. This explains which transmissions
> and
> > engines were used in each vehicle.
> >
> > Another option to consider is forced induction. A number of companies
> make
> > turbo- or super-charger kits for the 4.0 liter Jeep engine. One of
these
> > should bolt right up to your 727, if you find a place to hang the
> crankshaft
> > position sensor.
> >
> > That's all I can think of, for now.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> > news:BHNpg.94772$wl.43146@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > > So I need some more ...hummph ... power in the Wagoneer, as it only
has
> > 144
> > > hp which is about 50% of enough.
> > > Any recommendations ? Presumably the Mopar crate engines would bolt up
> > > straight to the Chrysler Torqueflite 727 ? Novak doesn't seem to have
> any
> > > adapters for the 727 - "if your transmission is not listed it is
> probably
> > > not worth converting to". I don't / won't take my Waggy off road as it
> is
> > an
> > > old lady that deserves a little bit of respect :-)
> > >
> > > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: Wagoneer Engine Replacement Choices ?
When was the last tune up? It is amazing what a new distributor cap,
rotor, wires and plugs can do for them. You also can get a hotter coil,
like an Accel or Mallory to toss in which also can really boost power
because you can open the plug gaps for a big assed spark.
What is the current compression? If it is carboned up it will run like
crap too. How about oil consumption? If those are good, you can boost
the intake with a larger carb and add headers with larger diameter
exhaust to get some more 'seat of the pants' oomph.
How about checking with Chrysler for a short or long box engine? They
sell them here in Canada at a competitive price even last time I
checked.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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Dave Milne wrote:
>
> So I need some more ...hummph ... power in the Wagoneer, as it only has 144
> hp which is about 50% of enough.
> Any recommendations ? Presumably the Mopar crate engines would bolt up
> straight to the Chrysler Torqueflite 727 ? Novak doesn't seem to have any
> adapters for the 727 - "if your transmission is not listed it is probably
> not worth converting to". I don't / won't take my Waggy off road as it is an
> old lady that deserves a little bit of respect :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
rotor, wires and plugs can do for them. You also can get a hotter coil,
like an Accel or Mallory to toss in which also can really boost power
because you can open the plug gaps for a big assed spark.
What is the current compression? If it is carboned up it will run like
crap too. How about oil consumption? If those are good, you can boost
the intake with a larger carb and add headers with larger diameter
exhaust to get some more 'seat of the pants' oomph.
How about checking with Chrysler for a short or long box engine? They
sell them here in Canada at a competitive price even last time I
checked.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> So I need some more ...hummph ... power in the Wagoneer, as it only has 144
> hp which is about 50% of enough.
> Any recommendations ? Presumably the Mopar crate engines would bolt up
> straight to the Chrysler Torqueflite 727 ? Novak doesn't seem to have any
> adapters for the 727 - "if your transmission is not listed it is probably
> not worth converting to". I don't / won't take my Waggy off road as it is an
> old lady that deserves a little bit of respect :-)
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ