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Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
Can you please explain, why do you drive it to heat it up quickly?
Thanks in advance Frank RoyJ wrote: > Synthetic is better at these temps but I wouldn't worry about 'only' > -15F, the Jeep will tolerate it easily. (different story around the -25 > to -35F range!) Make sure you have fresh oil (5w-30). a good battery, > and get it to operating temp quickly (drive it, don't idle it for 20 > minutes) > > I'd be more concerned over the battery than the oil. For that temp and > that far from civilization, I'd replace any battery over 4 years old. > > Handywired wrote: > >> It sort of breaks my heart to start my Jeep up at elk camp every >> year... it's >> usually somewhere around -15 F at 4:30 am when it's time to fire up >> the rigs to >> get to the trailheads. I have a block heater but dammit, I can't find an >> outlet to plug into up there <g>! >> >> Would my engine be better protected if I switched it to synthetic oil >> before >> the hunt? It's a '97 4.0L with 86K on it. Runs great. I'd probably >> switch >> back at the next oil change. I typically do the oil every 3000-4000 >> miles. Is >> it bad to switch like that? >> >> -jeff |
Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
Can you please explain, why do you drive it to heat it up quickly?
Thanks in advance Frank RoyJ wrote: > Synthetic is better at these temps but I wouldn't worry about 'only' > -15F, the Jeep will tolerate it easily. (different story around the -25 > to -35F range!) Make sure you have fresh oil (5w-30). a good battery, > and get it to operating temp quickly (drive it, don't idle it for 20 > minutes) > > I'd be more concerned over the battery than the oil. For that temp and > that far from civilization, I'd replace any battery over 4 years old. > > Handywired wrote: > >> It sort of breaks my heart to start my Jeep up at elk camp every >> year... it's >> usually somewhere around -15 F at 4:30 am when it's time to fire up >> the rigs to >> get to the trailheads. I have a block heater but dammit, I can't find an >> outlet to plug into up there <g>! >> >> Would my engine be better protected if I switched it to synthetic oil >> before >> the hunt? It's a '97 4.0L with 86K on it. Runs great. I'd probably >> switch >> back at the next oil change. I typically do the oil every 3000-4000 >> miles. Is >> it bad to switch like that? >> >> -jeff |
Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
Can you please explain, why do you drive it to heat it up quickly?
Thanks in advance Frank RoyJ wrote: > Synthetic is better at these temps but I wouldn't worry about 'only' > -15F, the Jeep will tolerate it easily. (different story around the -25 > to -35F range!) Make sure you have fresh oil (5w-30). a good battery, > and get it to operating temp quickly (drive it, don't idle it for 20 > minutes) > > I'd be more concerned over the battery than the oil. For that temp and > that far from civilization, I'd replace any battery over 4 years old. > > Handywired wrote: > >> It sort of breaks my heart to start my Jeep up at elk camp every >> year... it's >> usually somewhere around -15 F at 4:30 am when it's time to fire up >> the rigs to >> get to the trailheads. I have a block heater but dammit, I can't find an >> outlet to plug into up there <g>! >> >> Would my engine be better protected if I switched it to synthetic oil >> before >> the hunt? It's a '97 4.0L with 86K on it. Runs great. I'd probably >> switch >> back at the next oil change. I typically do the oil every 3000-4000 >> miles. Is >> it bad to switch like that? >> >> -jeff |
Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
Hi Frank,
He must own a repair shop? We hear this crap coming out of Greenies mouths all the time, they think they may save gas, by destroying the engine. The new hybrid cars are design not to idle, to shut off at stop signs, these new owners are in for a rude awakening, when they realize not only do they only get thirty miles to the gallon but the have to replace the gas engine, electric motor, and batteries every sixty thousand miles. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ FrankW wrote: > > Can you please explain, why do you drive it to heat it up quickly? > Thanks in advance > Frank > > RoyJ wrote: > > Synthetic is better at these temps but I wouldn't worry about 'only' > > -15F, the Jeep will tolerate it easily. (different story around the -25 > > to -35F range!) Make sure you have fresh oil (5w-30). a good battery, > > and get it to operating temp quickly (drive it, don't idle it for 20 > > minutes) > > > > I'd be more concerned over the battery than the oil. For that temp and > > that far from civilization, I'd replace any battery over 4 years old. > > > > Handywired wrote: > > > >> It sort of breaks my heart to start my Jeep up at elk camp every > >> year... it's > >> usually somewhere around -15 F at 4:30 am when it's time to fire up > >> the rigs to > >> get to the trailheads. I have a block heater but dammit, I can't find an > >> outlet to plug into up there <g>! > >> > >> Would my engine be better protected if I switched it to synthetic oil > >> before > >> the hunt? It's a '97 4.0L with 86K on it. Runs great. I'd probably > >> switch > >> back at the next oil change. I typically do the oil every 3000-4000 > >> miles. Is > >> it bad to switch like that? > >> > >> -jeff |
Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
Hi Frank,
He must own a repair shop? We hear this crap coming out of Greenies mouths all the time, they think they may save gas, by destroying the engine. The new hybrid cars are design not to idle, to shut off at stop signs, these new owners are in for a rude awakening, when they realize not only do they only get thirty miles to the gallon but the have to replace the gas engine, electric motor, and batteries every sixty thousand miles. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ FrankW wrote: > > Can you please explain, why do you drive it to heat it up quickly? > Thanks in advance > Frank > > RoyJ wrote: > > Synthetic is better at these temps but I wouldn't worry about 'only' > > -15F, the Jeep will tolerate it easily. (different story around the -25 > > to -35F range!) Make sure you have fresh oil (5w-30). a good battery, > > and get it to operating temp quickly (drive it, don't idle it for 20 > > minutes) > > > > I'd be more concerned over the battery than the oil. For that temp and > > that far from civilization, I'd replace any battery over 4 years old. > > > > Handywired wrote: > > > >> It sort of breaks my heart to start my Jeep up at elk camp every > >> year... it's > >> usually somewhere around -15 F at 4:30 am when it's time to fire up > >> the rigs to > >> get to the trailheads. I have a block heater but dammit, I can't find an > >> outlet to plug into up there <g>! > >> > >> Would my engine be better protected if I switched it to synthetic oil > >> before > >> the hunt? It's a '97 4.0L with 86K on it. Runs great. I'd probably > >> switch > >> back at the next oil change. I typically do the oil every 3000-4000 > >> miles. Is > >> it bad to switch like that? > >> > >> -jeff |
Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
Hi Frank,
He must own a repair shop? We hear this crap coming out of Greenies mouths all the time, they think they may save gas, by destroying the engine. The new hybrid cars are design not to idle, to shut off at stop signs, these new owners are in for a rude awakening, when they realize not only do they only get thirty miles to the gallon but the have to replace the gas engine, electric motor, and batteries every sixty thousand miles. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ FrankW wrote: > > Can you please explain, why do you drive it to heat it up quickly? > Thanks in advance > Frank > > RoyJ wrote: > > Synthetic is better at these temps but I wouldn't worry about 'only' > > -15F, the Jeep will tolerate it easily. (different story around the -25 > > to -35F range!) Make sure you have fresh oil (5w-30). a good battery, > > and get it to operating temp quickly (drive it, don't idle it for 20 > > minutes) > > > > I'd be more concerned over the battery than the oil. For that temp and > > that far from civilization, I'd replace any battery over 4 years old. > > > > Handywired wrote: > > > >> It sort of breaks my heart to start my Jeep up at elk camp every > >> year... it's > >> usually somewhere around -15 F at 4:30 am when it's time to fire up > >> the rigs to > >> get to the trailheads. I have a block heater but dammit, I can't find an > >> outlet to plug into up there <g>! > >> > >> Would my engine be better protected if I switched it to synthetic oil > >> before > >> the hunt? It's a '97 4.0L with 86K on it. Runs great. I'd probably > >> switch > >> back at the next oil change. I typically do the oil every 3000-4000 > >> miles. Is > >> it bad to switch like that? > >> > >> -jeff |
Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
Hi Frank,
He must own a repair shop? We hear this crap coming out of Greenies mouths all the time, they think they may save gas, by destroying the engine. The new hybrid cars are design not to idle, to shut off at stop signs, these new owners are in for a rude awakening, when they realize not only do they only get thirty miles to the gallon but the have to replace the gas engine, electric motor, and batteries every sixty thousand miles. God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ FrankW wrote: > > Can you please explain, why do you drive it to heat it up quickly? > Thanks in advance > Frank > > RoyJ wrote: > > Synthetic is better at these temps but I wouldn't worry about 'only' > > -15F, the Jeep will tolerate it easily. (different story around the -25 > > to -35F range!) Make sure you have fresh oil (5w-30). a good battery, > > and get it to operating temp quickly (drive it, don't idle it for 20 > > minutes) > > > > I'd be more concerned over the battery than the oil. For that temp and > > that far from civilization, I'd replace any battery over 4 years old. > > > > Handywired wrote: > > > >> It sort of breaks my heart to start my Jeep up at elk camp every > >> year... it's > >> usually somewhere around -15 F at 4:30 am when it's time to fire up > >> the rigs to > >> get to the trailheads. I have a block heater but dammit, I can't find an > >> outlet to plug into up there <g>! > >> > >> Would my engine be better protected if I switched it to synthetic oil > >> before > >> the hunt? It's a '97 4.0L with 86K on it. Runs great. I'd probably > >> switch > >> back at the next oil change. I typically do the oil every 3000-4000 > >> miles. Is > >> it bad to switch like that? > >> > >> -jeff |
Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message news:ZuydnXLpeIr7RYHcRVn-vg@magma.ca... > Can you please explain, why do you drive it to heat it up quickly? > Thanks in advance > Frank The idea here is that the amount of cold engine wear with the engine sitting idling (think low oil pump pressure) is worse for the engine than if you start to drive right away where you get some additional pump pressure to move the thickened oil. Obviously, the thinner the oil stays at low temps the better. Obviously, you take it easy until the oil comes up to temp. Also, remember that the oil is slower to warm than the coolant, so don't just go by the temp gauge in the dash (unless you have an oil temp gauge too) Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil, especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil. -Fred W '98 TJ Sport Ignore the curmudgeons that insist we drive our cars the way our fathers (and their fathers) did in the days of straight 30 weight motor oils that turned to taffy at 10 below. |
Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message news:ZuydnXLpeIr7RYHcRVn-vg@magma.ca... > Can you please explain, why do you drive it to heat it up quickly? > Thanks in advance > Frank The idea here is that the amount of cold engine wear with the engine sitting idling (think low oil pump pressure) is worse for the engine than if you start to drive right away where you get some additional pump pressure to move the thickened oil. Obviously, the thinner the oil stays at low temps the better. Obviously, you take it easy until the oil comes up to temp. Also, remember that the oil is slower to warm than the coolant, so don't just go by the temp gauge in the dash (unless you have an oil temp gauge too) Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil, especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil. -Fred W '98 TJ Sport Ignore the curmudgeons that insist we drive our cars the way our fathers (and their fathers) did in the days of straight 30 weight motor oils that turned to taffy at 10 below. |
Re: Very cold at elk camp... synthetic oil in my TJ?
"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message news:ZuydnXLpeIr7RYHcRVn-vg@magma.ca... > Can you please explain, why do you drive it to heat it up quickly? > Thanks in advance > Frank The idea here is that the amount of cold engine wear with the engine sitting idling (think low oil pump pressure) is worse for the engine than if you start to drive right away where you get some additional pump pressure to move the thickened oil. Obviously, the thinner the oil stays at low temps the better. Obviously, you take it easy until the oil comes up to temp. Also, remember that the oil is slower to warm than the coolant, so don't just go by the temp gauge in the dash (unless you have an oil temp gauge too) Even though -15 is not all that cold, you could use synthetic oil, especially one with a smaller first number, such as Mobil1 0w40, and this will stay far thinner than even 5W30 conventional oil. -Fred W '98 TJ Sport Ignore the curmudgeons that insist we drive our cars the way our fathers (and their fathers) did in the days of straight 30 weight motor oils that turned to taffy at 10 below. |
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