L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III

This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward
schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I
killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127
s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to
make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary
school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on
responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats,
where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other
perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my
documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California
surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over
many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a
little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too,
me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing,
you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your
statement like a man.
That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's
the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic
psychopath forged up names?
You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same
paragraphs it fits so well!
But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca,
security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org,
admin@***.net for forgery.
Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy
posted on an auto picture group at:
news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements,
but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on
Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and
that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the
United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just
too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave
it, so keep the f*ck out!
Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you!
YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and
someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant
with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you.
Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020
YOU NEED HELP!
The moral majority say you are not only *******, but cowards
You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and
anything.
Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up
and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your
arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place.
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net
intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT
Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly
email -------------------- or LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S.
Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!!
Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic
psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a
feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO>
And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your
pursuing *** names, as fake as you.
Just making sure the ******* at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos,
alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW
really are!!!!!
God, why do these stupid queer traitors keep following me around?
This ------ uses an old Intrepid V6, no wonder it's Jealous. I repeat as
your answers make my laugh: " Just one of my possessions you'll never
afford, and are jealous of: http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm "
<ROTFLMAO>
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.10.26.00.06.05.141319@trepanation.ca lm...
>
> Wrong-o, Billieboi, unless you're trying to sell that cheap-heap for $10
> million.
>
> I am jealous of NOTHING, yours or anyone else's.
>
> Never have been, never will be. Have no idea what jealousy even feels
> like.
>
> And in your specific case, I could only feel revulsion and repugnance.
>
> > http://www.----------.com/thunderb.htm
>
> Seen it, and it's a hilarious gutted POS!
>
> And I never accept cookies from the strange and stranger.
>
> Fact is -- and nearly everyone knows it -- you are the one who is jealous
> of everyone and everything.
>
> That's because you have nothing of any true value and because you /are/ so
> very little, in so many ways.
>
> Now, pick up your cue.....
>
> tevf tevf, Tenaqr Orrqè
>
>
> --

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III

There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom
Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of
course, I killed, now it's 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com New Albany,
Indiana asylum. It doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country
for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self,
with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's
surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul
language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too
senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind
me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking
it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name,
address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@***.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from any Capricorn.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures
groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!!
Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any
Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo.
You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less Vietnam, as you
suggest!!!!!
If you think I'm a Psycho, then report me to my friends at the San Diego
Sheriffs Department.
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.
You know what they say, once a ------ coward, always a ------ coward.
I won't give up until traitors like you are gone from these groups I
participate and see you've pretty well killed this group I will devote my
life to reminding your groups who you are!!!!!!!
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca and
24bit:
12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I
will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or
LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
You're not fooling anyone, ------! You need to get back in the hospital
before you hurt yourself or someone else.
Oh, and thanks for keeping my fight against troll/******* like you at
the top of your groups! :-)
The only reason you write me is to try to put down my friends and my
Lord Jesus Christ. Well try as you may you're not strong enough for that,
coward.
BTW I put up a couple more of my friends cars for you to be jealous of.
:-)
I happen to know you've been locked in a rubber room, laced in a
straight jacket. Time for lights out at your insane asylum again.
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
There you go with that psychopathic goat obsession/fetish, that only
******* like would think of.
That's what I've said, it's common knowledge you're a schizophrenic
------.
Hehehe I've got your user name blocked over at: Motzarella, ***, and
soon the world of servers.
What are you babbling about?????
And you think the news members won't recognize your girlie writing, and
see your user names, as fake as you.
I used to pity retarded people like you, now you just make me
laugh!!!!!!
You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way
a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Terry Dactille©~®" <pterry@jurassholle_pork.org> wrote in message
news:0vp2i350m5l247eno9rnn6j77rdcgs5ll8@4ax.com...
>
> Here, here!
>
> Doc



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III

There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom
Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of
course, I killed, now it's 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com New Albany,
Indiana asylum. It doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country
for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self,
with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's
surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul
language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too
senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind
me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking
it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name,
address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@***.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from any Capricorn.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures
groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!!
Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any
Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo.
You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less Vietnam, as you
suggest!!!!!
If you think I'm a Psycho, then report me to my friends at the San Diego
Sheriffs Department.
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.
You know what they say, once a ------ coward, always a ------ coward.
I won't give up until traitors like you are gone from these groups I
participate and see you've pretty well killed this group I will devote my
life to reminding your groups who you are!!!!!!!
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca and
24bit:
12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I
will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or
LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
You're not fooling anyone, ------! You need to get back in the hospital
before you hurt yourself or someone else.
Oh, and thanks for keeping my fight against troll/******* like you at
the top of your groups! :-)
The only reason you write me is to try to put down my friends and my
Lord Jesus Christ. Well try as you may you're not strong enough for that,
coward.
BTW I put up a couple more of my friends cars for you to be jealous of.
:-)
I happen to know you've been locked in a rubber room, laced in a
straight jacket. Time for lights out at your insane asylum again.
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
There you go with that psychopathic goat obsession/fetish, that only
******* like would think of.
That's what I've said, it's common knowledge you're a schizophrenic
------.
Hehehe I've got your user name blocked over at: Motzarella, ***, and
soon the world of servers.
What are you babbling about?????
And you think the news members won't recognize your girlie writing, and
see your user names, as fake as you.
I used to pity retarded people like you, now you just make me
laugh!!!!!!
You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way
a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Terry Dactille©~®" <pterry@jurassholle_pork.org> wrote in message
news:0vp2i350m5l247eno9rnn6j77rdcgs5ll8@4ax.com...
>
> Here, here!
>
> Doc



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III

There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom
Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of
course, I killed, now it's 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com New Albany,
Indiana asylum. It doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country
for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self,
with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's
surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul
language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too
senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind
me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking
it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name,
address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@***.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from any Capricorn.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures
groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!!
Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any
Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo.
You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less Vietnam, as you
suggest!!!!!
If you think I'm a Psycho, then report me to my friends at the San Diego
Sheriffs Department.
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.
You know what they say, once a ------ coward, always a ------ coward.
I won't give up until traitors like you are gone from these groups I
participate and see you've pretty well killed this group I will devote my
life to reminding your groups who you are!!!!!!!
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca and
24bit:
12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I
will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or
LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
You're not fooling anyone, ------! You need to get back in the hospital
before you hurt yourself or someone else.
Oh, and thanks for keeping my fight against troll/******* like you at
the top of your groups! :-)
The only reason you write me is to try to put down my friends and my
Lord Jesus Christ. Well try as you may you're not strong enough for that,
coward.
BTW I put up a couple more of my friends cars for you to be jealous of.
:-)
I happen to know you've been locked in a rubber room, laced in a
straight jacket. Time for lights out at your insane asylum again.
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
There you go with that psychopathic goat obsession/fetish, that only
******* like would think of.
That's what I've said, it's common knowledge you're a schizophrenic
------.
Hehehe I've got your user name blocked over at: Motzarella, ***, and
soon the world of servers.
What are you babbling about?????
And you think the news members won't recognize your girlie writing, and
see your user names, as fake as you.
I used to pity retarded people like you, now you just make me
laugh!!!!!!
You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way
a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Terry Dactille©~®" <pterry@jurassholle_pork.org> wrote in message
news:0vp2i350m5l247eno9rnn6j77rdcgs5ll8@4ax.com...
>
> Here, here!
>
> Doc



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

=?iso-8859-1?q?Pink_Freud=A9=AE?=

On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:33:11 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

> I repeat
> I repeat
> I repeat
> I repeat
> I repeat

You sure as hell do.

Constantly.

Including all the tons of food you consume. (Enough to feed half the
starving /worthwhile/ people in the world, Mr. Methane.)

And my 'Trep can still outrun ANYTHING you've got or ever will have, and
you know it, too.

Just one more irritating thing you're jealous of.

Pbblba.

--
"I am become Cooyon Billieboi, the destroyer of groups."

-- Bhagavad-Gita (Version 2)
-- aka the Bagoffat-Geezer

=?iso-8859-1?q?Pink_Freud=A9=AE?=

On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:33:11 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

> I repeat
> I repeat
> I repeat
> I repeat
> I repeat

You sure as hell do.

Constantly.

Including all the tons of food you consume. (Enough to feed half the
starving /worthwhile/ people in the world, Mr. Methane.)

And my 'Trep can still outrun ANYTHING you've got or ever will have, and
you know it, too.

Just one more irritating thing you're jealous of.

Pbblba.

--
"I am become Cooyon Billieboi, the destroyer of groups."

-- Bhagavad-Gita (Version 2)
-- aka the Bagoffat-Geezer

=?iso-8859-1?q?Pink_Freud=A9=AE?=

On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:33:11 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

> I repeat
> I repeat
> I repeat
> I repeat
> I repeat

You sure as hell do.

Constantly.

Including all the tons of food you consume. (Enough to feed half the
starving /worthwhile/ people in the world, Mr. Methane.)

And my 'Trep can still outrun ANYTHING you've got or ever will have, and
you know it, too.

Just one more irritating thing you're jealous of.

Pbblba.

--
"I am become Cooyon Billieboi, the destroyer of groups."

-- Bhagavad-Gita (Version 2)
-- aka the Bagoffat-Geezer

Coasty

Well, one thing you can release the clutch at idol on the I6 and you just
crawl along. If you do this with a V6 it stalls.

Coasty


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:Xc8Ui.21997$od4.9082@trnddc04...
> The jury is out, but as a general rule the V6 makes its power at speeds
> well off of idle, but the old I6 makes 80% or 90% of its torque while
> idling. The result is that the old I6 makes for better rock crawling
> because you can select 1st in 4LO and have more than enough power to creep
> (crawl) over stuff.
>
> On the other hand, the V6 makes its power at speed, so it will make for a
> far more pleasant commute -- where engine speeds are high, and thus
> noisey.
>
> I can't say for certain, but the odds favor the new V6 to be a poor
> performer for offroading. Having said that, the old 225 Even Fire (and,
> for that matter the Odd Fire as well) were very desirable engines in the
> olden days. But, when those motors were in production, they were
> essentially V8s with two chopped off of one end. The point being, they had
> a long stroke, which is where torque comes from. A motor with a short
> stroke will produce torque further up on the RPM band, and offroaders
> (rock crawlers) prefer the torque to be very low on the RPM band. It is
> far better to pull a stump at idle than it is to yank it at 3000 RPM.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Jack Carter" <jcarter10screwspam@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:RJmdneI2yLQALb3anZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Maybe you should check out the gear ratios in the 6-speed transmission
>> and then take one for a test drive - preferably one with the optional
>> 3.73 axles. If you're open minded - as opposed to empty headed - you
>> might change your mind!
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:4720ad92$0$32392$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>>> Yup, it would appear you now have a mini van engine. No more crawling
>>> up the sides of sand pits or over rocks at 400-500 rpm like the old 6
>>> would do. You now need tire spinning, hole digging, rpm to get
>>> anyplace.
>>>
>>> Probably better on the highway.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>>>
>>>
>>> Jack Carter wrote:
>>>> A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by
>>>> Mitsubushi. Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine
>>>> and that it's used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for a
>>>> long time.
>>
>>
>

Coasty

Well, one thing you can release the clutch at idol on the I6 and you just
crawl along. If you do this with a V6 it stalls.

Coasty


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:Xc8Ui.21997$od4.9082@trnddc04...
> The jury is out, but as a general rule the V6 makes its power at speeds
> well off of idle, but the old I6 makes 80% or 90% of its torque while
> idling. The result is that the old I6 makes for better rock crawling
> because you can select 1st in 4LO and have more than enough power to creep
> (crawl) over stuff.
>
> On the other hand, the V6 makes its power at speed, so it will make for a
> far more pleasant commute -- where engine speeds are high, and thus
> noisey.
>
> I can't say for certain, but the odds favor the new V6 to be a poor
> performer for offroading. Having said that, the old 225 Even Fire (and,
> for that matter the Odd Fire as well) were very desirable engines in the
> olden days. But, when those motors were in production, they were
> essentially V8s with two chopped off of one end. The point being, they had
> a long stroke, which is where torque comes from. A motor with a short
> stroke will produce torque further up on the RPM band, and offroaders
> (rock crawlers) prefer the torque to be very low on the RPM band. It is
> far better to pull a stump at idle than it is to yank it at 3000 RPM.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Jack Carter" <jcarter10screwspam@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:RJmdneI2yLQALb3anZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Maybe you should check out the gear ratios in the 6-speed transmission
>> and then take one for a test drive - preferably one with the optional
>> 3.73 axles. If you're open minded - as opposed to empty headed - you
>> might change your mind!
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:4720ad92$0$32392$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>>> Yup, it would appear you now have a mini van engine. No more crawling
>>> up the sides of sand pits or over rocks at 400-500 rpm like the old 6
>>> would do. You now need tire spinning, hole digging, rpm to get
>>> anyplace.
>>>
>>> Probably better on the highway.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>>>
>>>
>>> Jack Carter wrote:
>>>> A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by
>>>> Mitsubushi. Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine
>>>> and that it's used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for a
>>>> long time.
>>
>>
>

Coasty

Well, one thing you can release the clutch at idol on the I6 and you just
crawl along. If you do this with a V6 it stalls.

Coasty


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:Xc8Ui.21997$od4.9082@trnddc04...
> The jury is out, but as a general rule the V6 makes its power at speeds
> well off of idle, but the old I6 makes 80% or 90% of its torque while
> idling. The result is that the old I6 makes for better rock crawling
> because you can select 1st in 4LO and have more than enough power to creep
> (crawl) over stuff.
>
> On the other hand, the V6 makes its power at speed, so it will make for a
> far more pleasant commute -- where engine speeds are high, and thus
> noisey.
>
> I can't say for certain, but the odds favor the new V6 to be a poor
> performer for offroading. Having said that, the old 225 Even Fire (and,
> for that matter the Odd Fire as well) were very desirable engines in the
> olden days. But, when those motors were in production, they were
> essentially V8s with two chopped off of one end. The point being, they had
> a long stroke, which is where torque comes from. A motor with a short
> stroke will produce torque further up on the RPM band, and offroaders
> (rock crawlers) prefer the torque to be very low on the RPM band. It is
> far better to pull a stump at idle than it is to yank it at 3000 RPM.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Jack Carter" <jcarter10screwspam@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:RJmdneI2yLQALb3anZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Maybe you should check out the gear ratios in the 6-speed transmission
>> and then take one for a test drive - preferably one with the optional
>> 3.73 axles. If you're open minded - as opposed to empty headed - you
>> might change your mind!
>>
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:4720ad92$0$32392$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosti ng.com...
>>> Yup, it would appear you now have a mini van engine. No more crawling
>>> up the sides of sand pits or over rocks at 400-500 rpm like the old 6
>>> would do. You now need tire spinning, hole digging, rpm to get
>>> anyplace.
>>>
>>> Probably better on the highway.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>>>
>>>
>>> Jack Carter wrote:
>>>> A friend tells me that the engine in my new Wrangler is made by
>>>> Mitsubushi. Is he correct? All I've heard is that it's a "good" engine
>>>> and that it's used in most Chrysler-made vans and has been around for a
>>>> long time.
>>
>>
>